Pro Cameras

2003-06-06 Thread Nick Zentena
CityTV showed one of it's "Naked in the House" episodes this week. It's an invitation only competition. The photographer gets 30 minutes with a naked model and one roll of film. I've yet to see a Nikon or a Canon. I've seen Pentax,Mamiya,Hasselblad, lots of Texas Leicas, something that

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2003-06-06 Thread Brendan
Those guys are the BIG boys from all over Canada and the States, and Medium format only or larger, no dinky 35mm amateurs there. --- Nick Zentena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > CityTV showed one of it's "Naked in the House" > episodes this week. It's an > invitation only competition. The

Re: Pro Cameras

2003-06-06 Thread frank theriault
I watched about 10 minutes of that show (it was all I could watch without gagging). I did notice that it was all being shot (what I watched of it) with Medium Format. Didn't suprise me, given the nature of the shoot. Didn't much like the concept of the show, though: too contrived. I ~did~ like

RE: Pro cameras again.....LX

2004-11-22 Thread jayers
quality camera. -Original Message- From: Jon Glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy On Nov 21, 2004, at 3:39 PM, William Robb wrote: > The nice thing about this subject

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2004-11-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: New Subject.. NOT We've established many times, including quite recently, that we cannot reach a consensus on what makes a "pro" camera. Thats cause the camera isn't all there is to whether it is pro or not. The company has to

Camera performance, formerly RE: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH.

2004-11-21 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hmmm... To some extend this is right for me too. > But I guess I just got used to all the nice features - sofisticated Matrix > metering (I rarely have to make corrections anymore with the MZ-S - *istD. > I > did with the PZ-1) Is it just that people

Re: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-21 Thread ernreed2
Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ernreed said: > > We've established many times, including quite recently, that we > > cannot reach > > a consensus on what makes a "pro" camera. > > Thats cause the camera isn't all there is to whether it is pro or > not. > The company has to offer stel

RE: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-21 Thread Andy Chang
November 21, 2004 9:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ernreed said: > > We've established many times, including quite recently, that we > > cannot reach > > a consensus on

Re: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy Meaning then that according to your standards, the LX isn't a "pro" camera either? I mean, just to be clear, this got underway because of the claim that the

RE: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-21 Thread Jens Bladt
15:25 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy I used to care about camera features a lot...but not anymore... As long as it allows me to take pictures, it's fine by me! It matters to me the most is whether I take good pictures or even great photos! I t

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2004-11-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Andy Chang" Subject: RE: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy It's just a tool... what matters is your imagination... I have owned a number of circular saws over the years. My first one was a cheap orange Black and Decker. It wouldn&

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2004-11-21 Thread Jon Glass
he small-format digital/35mm market? This is something I don't really have the answer to. However, I can share my impressions: 1. quality differences. I think that it should be a given that a camera that will be used full-time by a professional should be rugged enough to handle th

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2004-11-21 Thread Graywolf
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Andy Chang" Subject: RE: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy It's just a tool... what matters is your imagination... I have owned a number of circular saws over the years. My first one was a cheap orange Bl

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2004-11-21 Thread Keith Whaley
I've been sorely tempted to say, "Who cares!" But since so many seem to, I've changed my question to, "For Pete's sake, why does it matter?" Might as well argue the mechanical differences between traditional flat vs. round toothpicks. keith whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting William Robb <[

Re: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy Might as well argue the mechanical differences between traditional flat vs. round toothpicks. Flat ones seem to work better around the incisors, but for molars, nothing bea

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2004-11-21 Thread Graywolf
It is interesting how a reputation can continue on long after it is no longer deserved. Nikon (at least Nikon USA) "PRO" service is no longer much worth a crap. At one time (back in the EPOC days) it was the best in the world. Now it is pretty much a joke. (An insider joke I admit. The pros them

Re: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-21 Thread Bob W
Hi, Sunday, November 21, 2004, 4:56:21 PM, Keith wrote: > I've been sorely tempted to say, "Who cares!" > But since so many seem to, I've changed my question to, "For Pete's > sake, why does it matter?" > Might as well argue the mechanical differences between traditional flat > vs. round toothpi

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2004-11-21 Thread Keith Whaley
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy Might as well argue the mechanical differences between traditional flat vs. round toothpicks. Flat ones seem to work better around the incisors, but

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2004-11-21 Thread Keith Whaley
Good one, Bob! Indeed. I'd almost forgotten! keith Bob W wrote: Hi, Sunday, November 21, 2004, 4:56:21 PM, Keith wrote: I've been sorely tempted to say, "Who cares!" But since so many seem to, I've changed my question to, "For Pete's sake, why does it matter?" Might as well argue the mechanical

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2004-11-21 Thread John Francis
William Robb mused: > > Subject: Re: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy > > Of course the company has to stand behind the product. While not suggesting that Pentax support comes anywhere near that of Canon (who have dedicated repair staff on-site at most major events, t

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2004-11-21 Thread Jens Bladt
rindelig meddelelse- Fra: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. november 2004 17:56 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy I've been sorely tempted to say, "Who cares!" But since so many seem to, I've changed my quest

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2004-11-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy And floss is the Photoshop of tooth care... If you have to fix it in Photoshop... WW

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2004-11-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Francis" Subject: Re: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy While not suggesting that Pentax support comes anywhere near that of Canon (who have dedicated repair staff on-site at most major events, together with masses of free loaner

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2004-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/11/04, Jon Glass, discombobulated, unleashed: >Pro equipment used >to be mostly devoid of automatic controls. Everything was set up >manually. In fact, as part of that, far more parameters were adjustable >and adjustable in more ways in pro equipment. As well, connections were >also comp

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2004-11-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
ERN, I'm a happy pentax user, but... My record with NEW Pentax cameras is not great. My original ME failed after 3-4 years of use and I paid to repair it when the standoff spring on the wind lever broke and put a metal piece into the plastic film advance gears. My Super Program died in the firs

Re: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-21 Thread Jon Glass
In Krakow, this is one of the most common cars used by taxi drivers. :-) (one of the other is the _much_ cheaper Polonez) On Nov 21, 2004, at 7:34 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: I guess my point is: You don't need the best or most expensive or sofisticated car in the world to be a TAXI driver. A Mercedes

Re: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Nov 2004 at 9:44, William Robb wrote: > It's not just your imagination, it's also what the tool is capable of > doing. > If all you imagine is junior grade work, a junior grade tool is often > fine. I tend to agree with your logic. I've stood in torrential downpours to make photos with m

Re: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
Round toothpicks are for professionals only. Flat toothpicks are definitely amateurish. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Pro cameras again...

Re: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-21 Thread John Francis
William Robb mused: > > > - Original Message - > From: "John Francis" > Subject: Re: Pro cameras again.SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy > > > > > While not suggesting that Pentax support comes anywhere near > > that of Canon (who have de

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2004-11-21 Thread Frantisek
BW> Daniel Defoe "Gulliver's Travels" Oh, so that's where the Big-Endian vs Little-Endian bit (in computers) war comes from :) Good light! fra

Re: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >BW> Daniel Defoe "Gulliver's Travels" > >Oh, so that's where the Big-Endian vs Little-Endian bit (in computers) >war comes from :) Um, yes, but it's by Jonathan Swift, not Daniel Defoe. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH. was: Re: New Guy

2004-11-22 Thread Bob W
Hi, >>BW> Daniel Defoe "Gulliver's Travels" >> >>Oh, so that's where the Big-Endian vs Little-Endian bit (in computers) >>war comes from :) > Um, yes, but it's by Jonathan Swift, not Daniel Defoe. oops - yes. -- Cheers, Bob

Re: Camera performance, formerly RE: Pro cameras again.....SHEESH.

2004-11-22 Thread Lon Williamson
I do occasional "foul weather" photography with, usually, K-series bodies. I put them under a bit of chamois. Not the Photo Chamois, just an old, well washed, CAR chamois. Better, AFAIK, than a towel or two. Ain't had a problem yet, but I'm not a Pro. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, in part: And then

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2004-11-22 Thread John Francis
Bob Sullivan mused: > > My PZ-1 went crazy in the drizzle at a Pig Roast (autofocus was > hunting). It was 6 months new and went back to Pentax under the > original warranty. I had to send the new camera plus the 28-80 lens. > It took a dissatisfying 2+ months to get it back from Colorado. Tha

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2004-11-24 Thread César
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hmmm... To some extend this is right for me too. But I guess I just got used to all the nice features - sofisticated Matrix metering (I rarely have to make corrections anymore with the MZ-S - *istD. I did with the PZ-1) I