I thought it was a Dutch photographer who got killed by that action. The
French lady was convicted, and was allowed to sit her sentence in a French
jail. Obviously when she was in that French jail she was let go (because she
was pregnant!).
Many countries are involved in things that can be critic
Hehehe. Love your translation. Now are you sure that's
potato, not potatoe? I really wondered about that
'canard' meaning 'duck'. Maybe there is an alternative
meaning.
Jody.
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> From: Lewis, Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 9:37 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
>
>
> Why do Americans always get so upset when we get dissed by another
> count
Bob Blakely wrote:
>
> An article presented by one member subtlety demonstrating a not uncommon
> attitude of many French toward Americans generally pissed me off. As I said
> to one member who brought this up to me personally:
>
> "I'm sorry, ___. I should have held my tongue [regarding the
. WWII was almost 60 years agoget over it.
Jerry in Houston
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From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 8:52 AM
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An article presented by one member sub
It's always good to do that so one can know how to properly break them .
Norm
Bob Blakely wrote:
> Just getting the rules straight.
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An article presented by one member subtlety demonstrating a not uncommon
attitude of many French toward Americans generally pissed me off. As I said
to one member who brought this up to me personally:
"I'm sorry, ___. I should have held my tongue [regarding the defamatory
article]."
The word
A scroll of mail from John Mustarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 10
Apr 2001 21:03:29 -0500
Read it? y
>America - a country which the French helped create, many long years
>ago, and which became a bunch of obnoxious ingrates who had the gall
>(gaul?) to produce better wine.
>
>So pour me another sp
Is that your larjest blunder :)
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PAUL STENQUIST
> Sent: 12 April 2001 12:35
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
>
>
> In that last r
In that last reply to this message, I meant to write, "I think the
comments were made in jest." I've gotta get control of my fingers. How
in the world did I type "large" instead of "jest?" I better have another
cup of coffee.
Paul
Peter Smith wrote:
>
> Cyril wrote:
>
> > I am, however, saddene
It is unnecessary, but I think the comments were made in large. It's
kind of a tradition that the French make disparaging but light-hearted
remarks about Americans, and Americans do the same in regard to the
French. (The same can probably said in regard to the French and the
Brits.) My unmistakabl
Pål wrote:
I've noticed the 43mm asthonishing quality while studying my slides. It took me
completely by surprise. It wasn't informed about this until I told it to japanese
friend who could tell that this was all over the place in japan. It was the design
goal behind the lens and Pentax describ
I wrote:
- Note that they rate the A* 300/2.8 much higher than the FA* 85/1.4 (so would I).
Ooops! It turns out to be the FA* 300/2.8.
Anyway, it show that the FA* 85/1.4 isn't rated nearly as high as CDI does. Also the
quality relations between the FA* 300/4.5 and the FA* 85/1.4 i
Cyril wrote:
> The 'one at the magazine' had nothing against Americans or any other people.
> He's just been told that somewhere on a list (PDML to be clear) people were
> asking questions about the relyability of the tests he performs every day.
> No one likes its said somewhere that his/her w
Alin wrote:
> I too have this impression.
> Just to show Paal there still are French he can agree with: in his
> lens test file, FNAC (a large photo-video french commercial chain)
> laboratory gave the following ratings to Pentax lenses (4 stars being
> the highest):
> Wide
Cyril MARION wrote:
> (and as a French, I have been hurt by some of the words that have been
> written here)
>
I haven't liked some of the things I've read in the list lately, but if
I were you, Cyril, wouldn't take them too seriously.
There are some people here in the list who enjoy bashing o
Cyril,
Thanks, but really, I was just joking. It doesn't matter
to me what a magazine writer of any nationality thinks
of Pentax or Americans or American Pentaxistes, because
you know what? I've never paid the slightest bit of
attention to lens tests. They mean nothing to me. What I
care abo
Exactly, we don't need to bring nationality into the debate. We can find plenty
of other reasons to hate each other :-)
Norm
Cyril MARION wrote:
>
> (and as a French, I have been hurt by some of the words that have been
> written here)
>
> We are not a lot of PENTAX fans through the world, so
Hello the world,
Doug, you have probably missed some parts of the translation :
> A Scandinavian complained that a French magazine rated
> some Pentax lenses too high and others too low, so in
> response a French reader of said French magazine wrote
> to someone at the magazine. In response, som
Pal wrote:
...and some say only: ABAABAABBBAAB, Boring, and "Color of Underwear" Roll Call
Update 2356782
:-)
Mine is black. Great idea! I will also do a new one: Coffe or Tea?
Thanks for suggestions.
Albano
PS: CdI rules!! ;-P
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> >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
> >Dat
Cyril wrote:
> But on another hand do you think this magazine ranked the FA* 85/1.4 5 stars
> (1993) to push customers to buy it, hands behind the eyes ? Or do you think
> they ranked a 3 star only at the A* 85/1.4 (this test is dated 10 years !)
> to lead customers to buy CANON of NIKON instead
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:20:04 +0200, Cyril MARION wrote:
>(Thank you America to have invented Internet...)
It was Al Gore who did that. :-)))
Later,
Gary
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OK Pal,
I agree with you when you say that you must not trust 100% of what is
written (anywhere).
But on another hand do you think this magazine ranked the FA* 85/1.4 5 stars
(1993) to push customers to buy it, hands behind the eyes ? Or do you think
they ranked a 3 star only at the A* 85/1.4 (t
Cyril wrote:
> Apart from your belivable opinion, I'm curious about where you got your
> absolutely not contestable knowledge of the FA* 85/1.4 and the A* 85/1.4 ?
I have no not contestable knowledge of the A* 85/1.4 becuase I've never used it. I
have seen test of this lens that put it on top
Pal, you wrote :
> You won't find any test or Pentax user who by any
> reasoning would rate the FA* 85/1,4 as ~40% better
> optically than the A* 85/1.4 or A* 135/1.8.
Apart from your belivable opinion, I'm curious about where you got your
absolutely not contestable knowledge of the FA* 85/1.4 a
Doug wrote:
> If he can overcome his anguish towards us, I'm sure that we could
> better explain our issues with the CdI tests and, hopefully, help him
> improve his company's testing techniques. Unfortunately, it appears
> he's already made up his mind that we're all attacking him personally.
>
o: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:40:07 -0600
>
>
>----- Original Message -
>From: "Paul Jones"
>Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
>
>
> > But we Australians still make bet
But we Australians still make better wine again:)
>From: John Mustarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:03:29 -0500
>
>On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:21:38 -05
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:21:38 -0500, you wrote:
>In actuality, anybody in the world that criticizes the French for anything,
>is, by French definition, an American.
>
America - a country which the French helped create, many long years
ago, and which became a bunch of obnoxious ingrates who had the
rench.
Regards,
Bob...
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From: "Paris, Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
> In actuality, anybody in the world th
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:25:44 +0200, you wrote:
>Heres a translation.
Well that runs me on bean, indeed, too!
They have decided that any criticism of their criticism is unfounded,
unwarranted, without merit, and unthinkably wrong.
Nay, even a besmirching of their honor!
Those who hold fast t
Is this where it stands: "CDI measures accurately, but the value of what's
measured doesn't support the conclusions they draw?'
Anyone know the specifics of what CDI tests for?
Dan Scott (out of the loop)
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Cyril wrote:
> Some lens definition tests can reduce the subjectivity factor.
BTW When we're at it; did they test the FA* 85/1.4 (or any other lens) at various
focus distances? If not, why? Isn't the decision of testing a lens, even if its just
MTF, at a fixed focusing distance a subjective
Cyril wrote:
> Some lens definition tests can reduce the subjectivity factor. One of them
> consists in evaluating the ratio between 2 measurements taken by the same
> instrument : the same instrument measures the contrast of a source image and
> the one of a the same image through the lens on te
Pentax clover wrote:
> Please remind that my test is not reliable. (I do not own 2 Millions
> FrenchFrancs tools to mesure it, but each time CdI test a lens and even the
> TRade disagree the result, when trade's engineers come to CdI resort, to
> test by their own, you know the result it quite th
Regarding the
>Pentax nozzle
this sounds pretty cool - anyone know if they've reached decent
secondhand prices yet, let alone new?? Always on the lookout
;-)
Cotty
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> When Popular Photography's Herb Keppler was a young man starting out in
> phot
n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: mardi 10 avril 2001 18:14
Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
> Clover wrote:
>
> > By the way you demonstrate me something, being a pentaxist fan do not
make
> > you smarter.
> > May be you pr
When Popular Photography's Herb Keppler was a young man starting out in
photography, he was apprenticing for a well-known German photographer--the
name escapes me--who had moved to America. Keppler had just read about a
new lens, that used a new design, and went on to describe its optical
advantag
"Paris, Leonard" wrote:
>
> In actuality, anybody in the world that criticizes the French for anything,
> is, by French definition, an American.
Or, possibly, English. But in either case they are, of course, wrong.
--
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dave o'brien wrote:
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> A scroll of mail from Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 10
> Apr 2001 13:58:35 +0200
> Read it? y
> >The Photodo tests of
> > the FA* 80-200 show it to be a rotten lens. Although I haven't used
> > it, has anyone heard anything but gloving reports from people with
> >
A scroll of mail from Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 10
Apr 2001 13:58:35 +0200
Read it? y
>The Photodo tests of
> the FA* 80-200 show it to be a rotten lens. Although I haven't used
> it, has anyone heard anything but gloving reports from people with
> personal experiences with this lens?
ect: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
>
>
> Doug wrote:
> A Scandinavian complained that a French magazine rated
> some Pentax lenses too high and others too low, so in
> response a French reader of said French magazine wrote
> to someone at the magazine. In response, some
Clover wrote:
> By the way you demonstrate me something, being a pentaxist fan do not make
> you smarter.
> May be you prefer to stay in your own opinion, that is a choice I can
> understand.
> This is like bible, you may or not trust the reliable facts inside. But if
> you come with the intentio
di 10 avril 2001 16:24
Subject: Re: Direct from Chasseur d'Images
> Was that sent to you or published?
> Norm
>
> Pål Jensen wrote:
>
> > Well, this idiot seems to acuse Pentax users for getting pissed off
wherever CDI publish a test that don't give pentax rave rewiev.
Hello
It was personnal E mail!
But some times you can read such thing in the magazine !
See you
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: mardi 10 avril 2001 16:24
Subject: Re: Direct from Cha
Hello
does not matter americans or french, in France you can find such a
unbelievers !
See you
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> For those of you keeping score at home, here is where we
> stand:
>
> A Scandinavian complained that a French magazine rated
> some Pentax lenses too high and others too low, so
Poor translation!
Concerning the American pentaxists! - Americans, French or javanais, the
penxists like the contaxists, leicaists and qqs others start to run me on
bean, severe! Indeed, which different newspaper than Ci, which different
journalists than my apple, Denis or GMC defended with eager
In regards to this;
"Hello
My translation is not good !!!
I just want to explain this after reading that some members are still
thinking that CdI Tests are not reliable
And after this mail, I think I will unsuscribe the pdml First, because I
will not have enought time to spend there and also I am
Hello
My translation is not good !!!
I just want to explain this after reading that some members are still
thinking that CdI Tests are not reliable
And after this mail, I think I will unsuscribe the pdml First, because I
will not have enought time to spend there and also I am fed up with argueing
Well, this idiot seems to acuse Pentax users for getting pissed off wherever CDI
publish a test that don't give pentax rave rewiev. Nothing could be further from the
truth. We get pissed off when lens test don't asess lens quality, good or bad. This
CDI thing started when some of us criticised
Denis wrote:
> !
> What's about English version?
> :-)))
Heres a translation. As you can see this is a bunch of self centered, pretentios thick
heads. They avoid completely the isuue. No wonder!
Concerning the American pentaxists! - Americans, French or javanais, the penxists like
the c
My, Oh My ... someone's got his knickers in a knot. Seems like your
friend can't handle criticism very well (based on my poor French
translation) and, rather than argue technical points and specifics,
is just spewing forth what seems like anger and frustration. Too
bad - a good discussion could
Qué?
E-MAILS are susceptible to interference. You should not assume that
the contents originated from the sender or the Zetex Group or that they
have been accurately reproduced from their original form.
Zetex accepts no
!
What's about English version?
:-)))
Den
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On 10 Apr 2001, at 10:32, Pentax Clover wrote:
> Hello
> This is a Email I received from CdI and I wish to show to all of you !
> See you
Where this augment falls down badly is that many of the people putting
comments forward in the PDML forum are also familiar with the other
systems to which
LOL!!
I have no idea what caused this outraged reply of his (I can imagine
though) but i *love* his style :-
Daphne
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