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Adobe, unfortunately, is pretty good at the time expiration thing. Better
than most.
It's even better at the Price -- acute indigestion/heart attack sort of
thing.
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Adobe, unfortunately, is pretty good at the time
expiration thing. Better
than most.
It's even better at the Price -- acute
indigestion/heart attack sort of thing.
Lightroom is much cheaper than Photoshop, and far better in my opinion
for photographers. I never really got on
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From: Bob W
Subject: RE: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Lightroom is much cheaper than Photoshop, and far better in my opinion
for photographers. I never really got on with Photoshop, and I haven't
used it at all since I bought Lightroom, but I've used Lightroom a
lot. I
In a message dated 4/5/2008 2:25:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lightroom is much cheaper than Photoshop, and far better in my opinion
for photographers. I never really got on with Photoshop, and I haven't
used it at all since I bought Lightroom, but I've used
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 10:24:53AM +0100, Bob W wrote:
Adobe, unfortunately, is pretty good at the time
expiration thing. Better
than most.
It's even better at the Price -- acute
indigestion/heart attack sort of thing.
Lightroom is much cheaper than Photoshop, and
Me too, except that I picked up Lightroom for nothing.
Or to be accurate, I got a free license since I already was a RSP
user. That's what I call a good deal :-)
I haven't tested 2.0 yet. I better get my new puter up running properly first.
MaritimTim
2008/4/5, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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About the only thing I couldn't do without using an external editor was
selective editing to just part of an image, and LR 2.0 apparently has
that.
Ah - if Lightroom 2 has selective editing I might take a look at the
BTW.
If any existing Lightroom users feel so inclined, Would you be willing
to send me a Lightroom 2 Beta invitation.
That way I can try the program out for longer than 30 Days.
TIA
Cheers,
Dave
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:56 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:04 AM 4/04/2008,
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW.
If any existing Lightroom users feel so inclined, Would you be willing
to send me a Lightroom 2 Beta invitation.
That way I can try the program out for longer than 30 Days.
Thou shall count to 30, 31 is RIGHT OUT.
In a message dated 4/4/2008 6:44:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BTW.
If any existing Lightroom users feel so inclined, Would you be willing
to send me a Lightroom 2 Beta invitation.
That way I can try the program out for longer than 30 Days.
TIA
Cheers,
Dave
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 4/4/2008 6:44:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BTW.
If any existing Lightroom users feel so inclined, Would you be willing
to send me a Lightroom 2 Beta invitation.
That way I can
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:44 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW.
If any existing Lightroom users feel so inclined, Would you be willing
to send me a Lightroom 2 Beta invitation.
That way I can
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Behalf Of Thibouille
Sent: woensdag 2 april 2008 12:13
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Subject: Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta
However, this is currently an early beta (beta 1) and as such
really is for testing purpose only (but that multiple monitor
support has me very impatient ;)
Those
cheap for existing users.
Bob
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Sent: 03 April 2008 07:29
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Subject: RE: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Having just got a new PC, I was about to switch from Elements
Lightroom 2 is a Public Beta at this point in time, probably
reasonably stable but likely to have some bugs. Evaluation period for
those without a key is 30 days, for those with a key it's due to
expire in August. It is not at present compatible with v1.3.1
catalogs, nor are its metadata
On 2/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!...
Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
;-)
Babelfish translated that as:
If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !...
Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt gersput!
I think the
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm a trifle horrified
Mark!
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Babelfish translated that as:
If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !...
Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt gersput!
I think the Nunstruck is definitely git.
I'm done here !!
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Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tuo kyllä kuulostaa hyvältä!
Now, that looks familiar. I had the same trouble lately. They said it
was the keyboard. Keybounce or what they call it.
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Cotty wrote:
On 2/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!...
Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
;-)
Babelfish translated that as:
If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !...
Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt
Tuo kyllä kuulostaa hyvältä!
A-P
Antti-Pekka Virjonen
it's an old Finnish proverb - To cool a colostomy, hire Walter.
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Cotty wrote:
On 2/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!...
Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
;-)
Babelfish translated that as:
If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !...
Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt
Godfrey, I think I read that those having a key can invite others to
join the beta test till august.
It won't make LR2 any less beta than it is but it removes the 30 days problem.
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lightroom 2 is a Public Beta at this point
Not sure, I've not had time to read all the literature as yet.
The boss has been using his whip lately.
;-)
Godfrey
On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Thibouille wrote:
Godfrey, I think I read that those having a key can invite others to
join the beta test till august.
It won't make LR2 any less
2008/4/3, Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Tuo kyllä kuulostaa hyvältä!
Er'ekke nok nå'a?
Takk
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At 05:18 PM 3/04/2008, mike wilson wrote:
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm a trifle horrified
I'm a trifle lover.
Mtrifle...om nom nom nom
Cheers,
D
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On Apr 3, 2008, at 8:46 PM, David Savage wrote:
At 05:18 PM 3/04/2008, mike wilson wrote:
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm a trifle horrified
I'm a trifle lover.
Mtrifle...om nom nom nom
No pudding for you, young man!
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At 10:04 AM 4/04/2008, Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Apr 3, 2008, at 8:46 PM, David Savage wrote:
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm a trifle horrified
I'm a trifle lover.
Mtrifle...om nom nom nom
No pudding for you, young man!
Awww
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I didn't tried it yet but I'd suggest reading here about the whole stuff:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom/lightroom2_b1_releasenotes.pdf
In short, it has quite a number of very nice additions (I imagine
Godfrey's face reading those specs xD ) and if all goes well in the
release, IMO
On Apr 2, 2008, at 3:13 AM, Thibouille wrote:
I didn't tried it yet but I'd suggest reading here about the whole
stuff:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom/lightroom2_b1_releasenotes.pdf
In short, it has quite a number of very nice additions (I imagine
Godfrey's face reading
Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In short, it has quite a number of very nice additions...
Am I the only person on this planet missing support of offline media in
Lightroom? I see the oddest (well, in my opinion) enhancements made, all
the time, but no support for offline media which, again
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In short, it has quite a number of very nice additions...
Am I the only person on this planet missing support of offline media in
Lightroom? I see the oddest (well, in my opinion) enhancements made, all
the time, but no
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do you mean by offline media?
External hard drives, DVD etc.
I simply can't keep everything from 25+ years on the built-in drives of
my computer. So, some of it has to be stored externally and I need my
asset management software to keep track of
On Apr 2, 2008, at 8:32, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do you mean by offline media?
External hard drives, DVD etc.
I simply can't keep everything from 25+ years on the built-in drives
of
my computer. So, some of it has to be stored externally and
I guess I'm missing the point here. I use PhotoShop and ACR for all my photo
management. I have five hard drives. If I click on a thumbnail, the photo
opens. The RAW file is always in the same folder. I do work on a Mac, but I
doubt that makes a difference.
Paul
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Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do you mean by offline media?
External hard drives, DVD etc.
I simply can't keep everything from 25+ years on the built-in drives of
my computer. So, some of it has to be stored externally and I need my
asset
He's referring to drives or DVD's not currently mounted. Support for
offline media would allow you to view image thumbnails for images on
drives not currently connected (and also would indicate which
drive/DVD they're stored on). Other than the awful sharpening in
Lightroom 1.x, this is probably
On Apr 2, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In short, it has quite a number of very nice additions...
Am I the only person on this planet missing support of offline media
in
Lightroom? I see the oddest (well, in my opinion) enhancements
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do work on a Mac, but I doubt that makes a difference.
So do I.
If you get along with 5 hard drives, you just don't have enough picture
files. :-)
The problem some of us are having is that we have so much stuff that we
need to keep some of it (the vast majority in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess I'm missing the point here. I use PhotoShop and ACR for all my photo
management.
Photoshop and ACR will work fine accessing network drives. Lightroom won't.
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I do back up to DVD. I have several hundred in storage. My five drives give me
over two terabytes of space. They're about 70% full now. I'll add another 500
gigs soon. I keep very few backups on drives, save temporary backups for
important jobs. The general backups are almost exclusively on
Be careful, a cd lives for 10 years, a dvd for less than that (5 maybe)
http://le-gall.net/sylvain+violaine/blog/index.php?2007/10/21/31-reading-a-10-years-old-cd-r
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
I do back up to DVD. I have several hundred in storage. My five drives give
me over two
I have music CDs that are over twenty years old and still play well. I don't
know if that's the same as a data CD. I have checked some of my earliest
picture file DVDs, which are about five years old. Thus far, they're all fine.
Is there a technical explanation for why these storage devices
And with full support for offline file management, you'd be able to
browse thumbnails of each file on those DVD/CD backups, without having
to run the disk.
Cheers,
Dave
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do back up to DVD. I have several hundred in storage. My five
The issues with optical media longevity are related to corrosion/
fatigue of the dye or foil substrate upon which the bits are encoded.
Commercially produced audio CDs/DVDs are pressed and encased,
promoting better longevity of the media, and they're not as sensitive
to bit-errors. CDs and
Mm I dunno how Lightroom works (or not) with networked drive but I
know that up to a couple days ago my collection was stored on a
external drive connected by USB to my laptop.
If the drive wasn't connected (e.g. when I'm teaching at school)
simply Lightroom will not simply not be able to load the
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:48 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And with full support for offline file management, you'd be able to
browse thumbnails of each file on those DVD/CD backups, without having
to run the disk.
Cheers,
Dave
With my USB disk not connected it has always
Pressed CD are superior to CD-R in longevity.
CD-R recordings are designed to be permanent, but over time the dye's
physical characteristics may change, causing read errors and data loss.
Testing has demonstrated such degradation of some discs in as little as
18 months under normal storage
That's exactly what Lightroom provides.
Godfrey
On Apr 2, 2008, at 8:48 AM, David Savage wrote:
And with full support for offline file management, you'd be able to
browse thumbnails of each file on those DVD/CD backups, without having
to run the disk.
Cheers,
Dave
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 2, 2008, at 3:13 AM, Thibouille wrote:
In short, it has quite a number of very nice additions (I imagine
Godfrey's face reading those specs xD ) and if all goes well in the
release, IMO the upgrade will be
Fair enough.
I haven't used it in quite a while.
Cheers,
Dave
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's exactly what Lightroom provides.
Godfrey
On Apr 2, 2008, at 8:48 AM, David Savage wrote:
And with full support for offline file
Lightroom works beautifully with a networked file server when it
comes to reading image files. If a catalog containing files that are
sited on a networked file server is open, and the server is off line,
it behaves exactly as if the files were on a volume that would be
locally connected
On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Thibouille wrote:
The problem may be that CD/DVD are read-only medias and Lightroom
might dislike that. Just a theory I just came with (means I really
just thought about that now, replying to your post).
The only limitation of having your photos sited on read-only
On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Thibouille wrote:
In short, it has quite a number of very nice additions (I imagine
Godfrey's face reading those specs xD ) and if all goes well in the
release, IMO the upgrade will be a given.
I'm at a loss to understand what you mean. What do you mean?
Thanks for the explanation, Godders. I think I'll add at least another terabyte
of hard drive space and create hard drive backups to supplement my DVDs. Most
of my film scans are stored on CDs, and they still read well. The best are on
hard drives as well. Unfortunately, I have several hundred
On 2/4/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
I find it hard to understand what is meant when someone whom I do not
know, have never met, etc, says they imagine my face reading those
specs. How would you know what I found amusing, ridiculous,
important, a serious flaw, etc, or
This was a very helpful explanation, Godfrey, for me too. Big thanks!
Christine
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Subject: Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Thanks for the explanation, Godders. I
On Apr 2, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Cotty wrote:
To Godfrey: Don't fret mate, he's French.
To Thibouille: Il est un Americain, n'est-ce pas?
Entschuldigen Sie, bitte?
G
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On 2/4/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Entschuldigen Sie, bitte?
Blutige Deutsche! Erwähnen nicht den Krieg.
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On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Cotty wrote:
On 2/4/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Entschuldigen Sie, bitte?
Blutige Deutsche! Erwähnen nicht den Krieg.
Warum nicht? Wir verloren... letztes Mal. ]'-)
G
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On 2/4/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Warum nicht? Wir verloren... letztes Mal. ]'-)
MAL!
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Cotty wrote:
On 2/4/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Entschuldigen Sie, bitte?
Blutige Deutsche! Erwähnen nicht den Krieg.
Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!...
Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
;-)
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On Apr 2, 2008, at 17:16, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Cotty wrote:
On 2/4/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Entschuldigen Sie, bitte?
Blutige Deutsche! Erwähnen nicht den Krieg.
Warum nicht? Wir verloren... letztes Mal. ]'-)
Godfrey missed
On Apr 2, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
Entschuldigen Sie, bitte?
Blutige Deutsche! Erwähnen nicht den Krieg.
Warum nicht? Wir verloren... letztes Mal. ]'-)
Godfrey missed the Fawlty Towers reference.
Basil: Look, would you stop talking about the war!
Indignant
On Apr 2, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Bob W wrote:
Entschuldigen Sie, bitte?
Blutige Deutsche! Erwähnen nicht den Krieg.
Mark!
er, I mean
Euro!
LOL
Godfrey
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Behalf Of Cotty
Sent: 02 April 2008 22:41
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On 2/4/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Entschuldigen Sie, bitte?
Blutige Deutsche! Erwähnen
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