Re: Flickr as backup

2015-07-04 Thread David Mann
On Jul 4, 2015, at 11:21 pm, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: > P.S.: If you are already using rsync, perhaps you should throw a look > at `rdiff-backup`. FWIW I’m using a similar utility called snapback2 for one of my servers. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http:/

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-07-04 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > One thing that I haven't figured out how to do efficiently with rsync is for > it to track when I move a directory. > > I will upload photos into a generic (for this half of the year) directory, > then move that shoot into a monthly directory.

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-16 Thread steve harley
On 2015-06-15 16:26 , Larry Colen wrote: Since Lightroom strongly prefers that you move directories from within lightroom an excellent feature for lightroom would be the ability to automatically mirror your raw files (and catalogs for that matter) on other machines, SAMBA mounted drives, or even

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-15 Thread Stan Halpin
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 6:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > Eric Featherstone wrote: >> On 15 June 2015 at 19:20, Larry Colen wrote: >>> Thanks. I was aware of the delete option. It would just mean that my >>> backups get copied twice. Unless they end up in their final destination >>> before

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-15 Thread Larry Colen
Eric Featherstone wrote: On 15 June 2015 at 19:20, Larry Colen wrote: Thanks. I was aware of the delete option. It would just mean that my backups get copied twice. Unless they end up in their final destination before the first rsync. I could change my workflow a bit. I like to not move t

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-15 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 15 June 2015 at 19:20, Larry Colen wrote: > Thanks. I was aware of the delete option. It would just mean that my > backups get copied twice. Unless they end up in their final destination > before the first rsync. I could change my workflow a bit. I like to not > move the files from a shoot

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-15 Thread Larry Colen
Eric Featherstone wrote: On 13 June 2015 at 21:18, Larry Colen wrote: One thing that I haven't figured out how to do efficiently with rsync is for it to track when I move a directory. I think you want the --delete option Thanks. I was aware of the delete option. It would just mean that

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-15 Thread Charles Robinson
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 14:12 , Eric Weir wrote: > > >> On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: >> >> It's not perfect, but I'm already backing up actual copies of my RAW files >> with: >> >> 1. Time Machine >> 2. Crashplan (no speed issues here) > > Probably doesn't need to be

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-13 Thread David Mann
On Jun 14, 2015, at 8:18 am, Larry Colen wrote: > One thing that I haven't figured out how to do efficiently with rsync is for > it to track when I move a directory. AFAIK it has no way of knowing that a directory has been moved or renamed. I just move/rename it the same at both ends before r

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-13 Thread Toine
If you move the photos with a script, run the script on both set of folders and after that run rsync On 13 June 2015 at 22:18, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Toine wrote: >> >> If you need a local (wifi) based incremental backup solution on osx, >> rsync (comes with osx) to another mac (mini) or any ch

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-13 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 13 June 2015 at 21:18, Larry Colen wrote: > One thing that I haven't figured out how to do efficiently with rsync is for > it to track when I move a directory. I think you want the --delete option --deletedelete extraneous files from dest dirs or one of its brethr

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-13 Thread Larry Colen
Toine wrote: If you need a local (wifi) based incremental backup solution on osx, rsync (comes with osx) to another mac (mini) or any cheap nas is the fastest, and easiest route. Don't try OneDrive on OSX you will hate it. One thing that I haven't figured out how to do efficiently with rsync

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You can use Flickr for backup too. Just set your uploaded files (TIFF, DNG, JPEG, whatever) to "Private" access only. But services like CrashPlan work much better for real backup. G > On Jun 12, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > Many of the comments here, as well as some of the sources

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-13 Thread John
On 6/12/2015 2:06 PM, Eric Weir wrote: Many of the comments here, as well as some of the sources referenced, seem to be talking about “publishication” rather than “backup.” I use Flickr to share select images, usually edited, with others. To my tastes it works fine for this purpose. I don’t need

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-12 Thread steve harley
On 2015-06-12 13:26 , Toine wrote: If you need a local (wifi) based incremental backup solution on osx, rsync (comes with osx) to another mac (mini) or any cheap nas is the fastest, and easiest route. and even if you have all the latest wifi (router, Mac(s) and NAS as applicable), it will prob

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-12 Thread Toine
If you need a local (wifi) based incremental backup solution on osx, rsync (comes with osx) to another mac (mini) or any cheap nas is the fastest, and easiest route. Don't try OneDrive on OSX you will hate it. On 12 June 2015 at 20:06, Eric Weir wrote: >> On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:28 PM, steve harle

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-12 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:28 PM, steve harley wrote: > > On 2015-06-11 9:53 , Eric Weir wrote: >> This suggests another question about Flickr as backup, though I’m leaning >> away from using it as such: Can you upload RAW/DNG files to Flickr? > > i didn't try it, but no, not according to a coupl

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
My upload speed from home would, by itself, be too slow to send my whole data store to CrashPlan for backup. But I believe they can initialize your account from a hard disk if you send it to them, and then the incremental speed won't matter too much... Just keep the system running and it will

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-12 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jun 12, 2015, at 10:36 AM, John wrote: > > On 6/11/2015 3:12 PM, Eric Weir wrote: >> >>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: >>> >>> It's not perfect, but I'm already backing up actual copies of my RAW files >>> with: >>> >>> 1. Time Machine >>> 2. Crashplan (no speed

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-12 Thread John
On 6/11/2015 3:12 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: It's not perfect, but I'm already backing up actual copies of my RAW files with: 1. Time Machine 2. Crashplan (no speed issues here) Probably doesn't need to be asked, but you don't find Crashplan s

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-12 Thread John
CrashPlan doesn't have servers in Europe yet. That probably makes it too slow to use if you're not in the U.S. I think Dropbox & OneDrive do already have servers in Europe. If you *are* in the U.S., CrashPlan does have an option to do a "seeded backup" where they send you a 1TB USB drive for you

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread steve harley
On 2015-06-11 9:53 , Eric Weir wrote: This suggests another question about Flickr as backup, though I’m leaning away from using it as such: Can you upload RAW/DNG files to Flickr? i didn't try it, but no, not according to a couple of recent references i found; but any cloud service that handl

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread Toine
Yes In my case it is. I have the full paid 10Tb on Onedrive and a free dropbox. Onedrive is currently struggling with speed issues probably because many users try to handle Tb's. Uploading to Onedrive is fast enough the last months (30 Mbps) which is more or less on par with dropbox. downloading is

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > > It's not perfect, but I'm already backing up actual copies of my RAW files > with: > > 1. Time Machine > 2. Crashplan (no speed issues here) Probably doesn't need to be asked, but you don't find Crashplan slow? Eric Weir -- PDML Pen

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread Charles Robinson
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:53 , Eric Weir wrote: > > >> On Jun 10, 2015, at 1:37 PM, John wrote: >> >> [2] Not really, although you can set the images as private so no one else >> can see them. > > This suggests another question about Flickr as backup, though I’m leaning > away from using it

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Toine wrote: > > I tried Crashplan and decided to cancel my account. It's very very > slow. Even Onedrive beats crashplan and Onedrive is currently a joke compared > to dropbox speed. Just to be clear, Dropbox is faster? Thanks, Eric Weir -- PDML Pentax-Disc

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread Eric Weir
Thanks, Toine. Very helpful. > On Jun 11, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Toine wrote: > > I'm using OneDrive. The free version of Dropbox and Onedrive are too > small for serious photo backup. My OneDrive subscription offers 10Tb > storage. Dropbox starts at 1 Tb. Usage is a no brainer. Just save the > jpg o

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread Toine
I'm using OneDrive. The free version of Dropbox and Onedrive are too small for serious photo backup. My OneDrive subscription offers 10Tb storage. Dropbox starts at 1 Tb. Usage is a no brainer. Just save the jpg or RAW files in the dropbox or onedrive folder and it's synced in the background. I tr

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread Stan Halpin
Have you considered Dropbox? Another of many “cloud” services that give you x freestorage to start, allow incremental expansion for a price as you need it. For normal use, when I am at home, I think something like this would be a decent (2nd or 3rd level) backup process with the possible added a

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > As for (1), - I am not sure... it probably depends on your workflow. > I am not aware of an "automatic backup from computers" to Flickr tools. > But maybe they've created something... > > Just in case, - if you have Amazon Prime, - that of

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 1:37 PM, John wrote: > > [2] Not really, although you can set the images as private so no one else can > see them. This suggests another question about Flickr as backup, though I’m leaning away from using it as such: Can you upload RAW/DNG files to Flickr? If not it woul

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 11:20 AM, John wrote: > > Probably works with a USB connection. That would be cool. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net "What does it mean...that the world is so beauti

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread John
On 6/11/2015 11:09 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 11, 2015, at 11:05 AM, John wrote: In addition to a free trial, they have a "free" plan that allows you to use the software to backup to your own external drive, like Time-Machine for Mac, without paying for cloud storage I'm out of town right

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 11:05 AM, John wrote: > > In addition to a free trial, they have a "free" plan that allows you to > use the software to backup to your own external drive, like Time-Machine for > Mac, without paying for cloud storage I'm out of town right now, but plan to check this out,

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-11 Thread John
Not sure if you mean CrashPlan's website or Flickr's website or something else, but ... https://www.code42.com/store/ There was a pull-down menu in the upper right & clicking on "Store". I didn't see it at first until I told NoScript to temporarily allow crashplan.com They have an unlimited pla

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-10 Thread Igor PDML-StR
I was exhausted scrolling down the webpage... and still couldn't find what it costs.. I am rather sceptical about companies using cookie-cutter-type websites which indicates they cannot or are not willing to hire a good web designer. It's weird to see that from a 14-y.o. company with this pr

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-10 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 10 June 2015 at 17:53, Eric Weir wrote: > I’d like to take advantage of Flickr’s 1000 GB of free storage to backup my > photo files, but I wouldn’t want all of them to go into my photostream. Two > questions: [1] Is using Flickr as backup realistic in the first place? [2] Is > it possible to

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-10 Thread John
[1] No. [2] Not really, although you can set the images as private so no one else can see them. Several persons whose expertise I respect have suggested CrashPlan. http://www.code42.com/crashplan/ On 6/10/2015 12:53 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I’d like to take advantage of Flickr’s 1000 GB of free

Re: Flickr as backup

2015-06-10 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Eric, From what I know, you can make photos private on Flickr. So, that should resolve your issue (2). Just make the "backups" private. I suspect, however, there is no way to clearly separate "backups" area from the rest. I am not using Flickr myself (my wife does), - so, I don't know if y