Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-05-03 Thread David Mann
On May 4, 2006, at 2:51 AM, John Francis wrote: These guys have an interesting product: http://www.GlobalImagination.com/ They look really cool... I'd certainly like one. Can they be hooked into Google Earth? When I was at university (mid 90's) there was a guy working with a volume

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-05-03 Thread John Francis
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:14:23PM -0700, Powell Hargrave wrote: > >On 2006-04-29 20:21, Bob W wrote: > >> Sure. In that case, North America is tiny compared with Europe. As long as > >> you forget everything except Maryland. > > > >Check the globe or an area-true map to compare north america vs. a

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-05-02 Thread Ryan Brooks
Powell Hargrave wrote: On 2006-04-29 20:21, Bob W wrote: Sure. In that case, North America is tiny compared with Europe. As long as you forget everything except Maryland. Check the globe or an area-true map to compare north america vs. africa... - Martin I find a globe works

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-05-02 Thread Powell Hargrave
>On 2006-04-29 20:21, Bob W wrote: >> Sure. In that case, North America is tiny compared with Europe. As long as >> you forget everything except Maryland. > >Check the globe or an area-true map to compare north america vs. africa... >- Martin I find a globe works well. Mine is stuck on cold war b

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-05-02 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2006-04-29 20:21, Bob W wrote: > Sure. In that case, North America is tiny compared with Europe. As long as > you forget everything except Maryland. Check the globe or an area-true map to compare north america vs. africa... Or check China or India vs. US Or check the density of inhabitants o

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-05-02 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2006-04-30 12:13, graywolf wrote: > Those numbers are pretty close to what I came up with for Canada, but > not for the US. Maybe your numbers include all military bases, embassies, ships or ruled countries ;-) - Martin

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread Doug Franklin
Cotty wrote: I've got 12 inches but I never use it, as a rule. I knew a woman who had a foot fetish, but she'd settle for seven or eight inches. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ)

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread mike wilson
W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices For instance Canada is nowhere near as big as it looks on most maps. must be really tiny then, because on my map it's only about 6 inches coast-to-coast... -- Cheers, Bob

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread Kenneth Waller
Reminds me of the guy with an 11 inch head.. one more inch and it would be a foot. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices On 30/4/06, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: must be really ti

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread Cotty
On 30/4/06, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: >> must be really tiny then, because on my map it's only about 6 inches >> coast-to-coast... > >To quote Coty - >"I understand they say the same thing about Bill..." I've got 12 inches but I never use it, as a rule. Cheers, Cotty ___

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread Kenneth Waller
must be really tiny then, because on my map it's only about 6 inches coast-to-coast... To quote Coty - "I understand they say the same thing about Bill..." Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Local Gas

RE: Local gas prices

2006-04-30 Thread Butch Black
Thesis plus antithesis equals synthesis. You both have valid points. Having driven transit in the 80's the busses were full during rush hours and practically empty the rest of the time. You have to run busses frequently enough to make them practical to use. My "solution" to that would be to use f

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread graywolf
Those numbers are pretty close to what I came up with for Canada, but not for the US. However I did not do an exhaustive search but just took the numbers from the first sight google came up with. Yes by the numbers I came up with it was actually only 7-8% bigger but I figured I would round it u

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread Butch Black
Thesis plus antithesis equals synthesis. You both have valid points. Having driven transit in the 80's the busses were full during rush hours and practically empty the rest of the time. You have to run busses frequently enough to make them practical to use. My "solution" to that would be to us

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread DagT
; <==> "Expert Proof" --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message ----- From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Gallons of gas sold is only a part of such a company's profit picture. Profits are generated from other areas as well, including investme

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread P. J. Alling
Maybe to the international border, (12 mile limit)? Bob Shell wrote: On Apr 30, 2006, at 7:05 AM, graywolf wrote: Yep Canada is only about 10 million square kilometers just 10% bigger than the US. And you are wrong, Cotty. Bill is at least as big as you. USA is 9,631,418 square kilome

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread Bob W
> For instance Canada is nowhere > near as big as it looks on most maps. > must be really tiny then, because on my map it's only about 6 inches coast-to-coast... -- Cheers, Bob

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread Bob Shell
On Apr 30, 2006, at 7:05 AM, graywolf wrote: Yep Canada is only about 10 million square kilometers just 10% bigger than the US. And you are wrong, Cotty. Bill is at least as big as you. USA is 9,631,418 square kilometers. Canada is 9, 976,410 square kilometers. That makes Canada 344,9

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread graywolf
Yep Canada is only about 10 million square kilometers just 10% bigger than the US. And you are wrong, Cotty. Bill is at least as big as you. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Cotty wr

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread John Forbes
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:44:08 +0100, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, spend trillions of dollars on infrastructure to save billions on gasoline. Europeans spent that kind money on mass trans portation because between 1945 and 1960 most of them were too poor to afford a private motor

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread John Forbes
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:23:23 +0100, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Um, the oil companies can easily sell gas for far less than they're currently getting. Exxon profits are in the billion plus per quarter range. They will make the sacrifice when called upon. You omitted the smil

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread David Mann
On Apr 30, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Bob W wrote: Unless somebody thinks of ideas that, to the majority, sound outrageous and ridiculous, nothing will ever change. From the end of one of the very few TV ads that I actually like... "[...] the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-30 Thread Cotty
On 29/4/06, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: >For >instance Canada is nowhere near as big as it looks on most maps. I understand they say the same thing about Bill... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com __

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Gallons of gas sold is only a part of such a company's profit picture. Profits are generated from other areas as well, including investments and refining. Almost 1/4 of their profits came from

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Gallons of gas sold is only a part of such a company's profit picture. Profits are generated from other areas as well, including investments and refining. Almost 1/4 of their profits came from refining. For example, when they bought or contracted for crude @ $40.00 per barrel, and the price jump

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Doug Franklin
graywolf wrote: Where do you get those figures from? My understanding is that they are making the highest percentage of profit to gross right now of anytime since WWII. Notice that not a single news report (well, maybe one or two, but not the ones I've seen) talks about their margin rates, on

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Doug Franklin
graywolf wrote: Where do you get those figures from? My understanding is that they are making the highest percentage of profit to gross right now of anytime since WWII. Their SEC filings as of a month or two ago. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ)

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Billion PLUS!? This past quarter Exxon/Mobile had profits of more than 8-billion, and the last quarter of 2005 their profits were more than 10-billion (that's American dollars, boys, and a lot of 'em) How many gallons of gas did they sel

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread graywolf
Where do you get those figures from? My understanding is that they are making the highest percentage of profit to gross right now of anytime since WWII. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" -

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Billion PLUS!? This past quarter Exxon/Mobile had profits of more than 8-billion, and the last quarter of 2005 their profits were more than 10-billion (that's American dollars, boys, and a lot of 'em) Shel > [Original Message] > From: Paul Stenquist > Um, the oil companies can easily sell ga

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Doug Franklin
Paul Stenquist wrote: Um, the oil companies can easily sell gas for far less than they're currently getting. Exxon profits are in the billion plus per quarter range. They will make the sacrifice when called upon. Their gross and net margins are flat. They're simply selling more product, and

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
t;graywolf" Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Of course Bush's cronies may lower gas prices 6 months before the election, and my opinion of the public's intelligence says they will forget by election time. That would require the aquisition of oil at less than the world PPB. Not

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices high gas prices are caused by external problems. That is debatable, but this is not the forum to debate it. William Robb

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "graywolf" Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Of course Bush's cronies may lower gas prices 6 months before the election, and my opinion of the public's intelligence says they will forget by election time. That would require the aquis

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread P. J. Alling
So the Republicans get voted out because high gas prices are caused by external problems. The democrats are voted in and their solution to high gas prices is to put higher taxes on gasoline and oil producers... They'll be gone two years if they follow that prescription, (which is exactly what

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread P. J. Alling
Hey, the spell checker let it pass and I wasn't paying attention. (That's my story and I'm stickin' to it). Cotty wrote: On 29/4/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Brittan Peter, your regressing again... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Past

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread P. J. Alling
That seems fairly unlikely, but I would expect that intercity trains for intermediate distances might make a comeback. Then again the Federal Government would have to repeal some of tax disincentives that killed them in the first place. Mishka wrote: that definitely explains why every other

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread John Forbes
rica is tiny compared with Europe. As long as you forget everything except Maryland. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 April 2006 16:44 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Forget Russia and it is. In fact it

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread graywolf
TED] Sent: 29 April 2006 16:44 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Forget Russia and it is. In fact it's smaller than 2 Canadian Provinces (Quebec, if you count north-south vs. east-west, and Ontario) -Adam Bob W wrote: Correction: it's not larger - I just

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Forget Russia and it is. In fact it's smaller than 2 Canadian Provinces (Quebec, if you count north-south vs. east-west, and Ontario) To be fair, those are the two largest provinces. William Robb

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Many American cities are close together. If you count the suburbs where commuters live, New York and Philadelphia almost touch. Ditto New York and Boston. But that's beside the point. Part

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread William Robb
Bob Shell wrote: I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not been here generally just don't understand this about the USA. Things are far apart here, and for the most part we don't have transportation alternatives. Most of us don't have access to passenger train service. Bus

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread John Forbes
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:11:42 +0100, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Bob W wrote: I find that Europeans and people from the UK we're Europeans too! Some of my UK friends bristle if called European, so I always try to make the distinction. You need to f

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/4/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >Brittan Peter, your regressing again... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread John Forbes
to.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Smith" Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices I find that Europeans and people from the UK who hav

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/4/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >we're Europeans too! Har, speak for yourself!!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Adam Maas
heers, Bob -Original Message- From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 April 2006 16:44 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Forget Russia and it is. In fact it's smaller than 2 Canadian Provinces (Quebec, if you count north-south vs. east-wes

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Mishka
the daily comute to work to NYC iwould become a killer for me. i'd rather pay for gas. best, mishka On 4/29/06, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Apr 29, 2006, at 12:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Think taxes, in NYC the combined state local and federal taxes are > approaching $1.00 per g

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Mishka
too late for that mishka We could move New Orleans in between Baltimore and NYC, I suppose. Bob

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Mishka
that definitely explains why every other car on the hiways is an suv. i bet once gas prices get north of $5, the public transportation will get to european level quite quickly. best, mishka On 4/29/06, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have no

RE: Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob W
gt; From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 April 2006 18:54 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Re: Local Gas Prices > > > > > > From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 05:17:45 GMT > > To: pentax-discus

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob W
Only Scotlandshire, and you're welcome to it. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 April 2006 17:41 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices > > In that case you're Am

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob W
Those who disagree with me will be given a fair trial, then shot, in the interests of democracy. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 April 2006 17:34 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob W
Sure. In that case, North America is tiny compared with Europe. As long as you forget everything except Maryland. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 April 2006 16:44 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: L

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread P. J. Alling
and they're all on the 110 at the same time... mike wilson wrote: From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 05:17:45 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices From what I have seen of European cities in movies, we do not have traffic congesti

Re: Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread mike wilson
> > From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 05:17:45 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices > > From what I have seen of European cities in movies, we do not have > traffic congestion problems here in the US anywa

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob Shell
On Apr 29, 2006, at 12:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Think taxes, in NYC the combined state local and federal taxes are approaching $1.00 per gallon. In Wyoming the state and local taxes are pretty much non existent. Sounds like a good reason to move out there. Bob

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread graywolf
From what I have seen of European cities in movies, we do not have traffic congestion problems here in the US anyway. This may be one of those pot and kettle discussions. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" ---

Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

2006-04-29 Thread P. J. Alling
High speed micro turbine electricity generation. Waste heat is enormous... mike wilson wrote: From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 03:34:59 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices) There are a co

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread DagT
I agree, but around here there is a bright side: Even if fuel prices are increasing the larger effect is that Norway as a country earns a lot of money. Our pensions are secured .-) The smart thing to do for the future is to develop alternatives, find other ways to produce fuel. DagT Den

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread John Francis
Another example to show the comparative size of the US: I live in California, in the San Francisco Bay area - one of the more densely populated regions of the USA. There was an article in the paper yesterday about a guy who wanted to live out in the rural areas, where he could afford several acre

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread P. J. Alling
s a remote peninsula on the westernmost tip of Europe. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 April 2006 14:00 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices What really is shocking is when you look on a globe and see what a

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread P. J. Alling
Not all of you agree on that... Bob W wrote: I find that Europeans and people from the UK we're Europeans too! Bob -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread P. J. Alling
Sounds so reasonable now... Bob Shell wrote: On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Bob W wrote: but that's because you guys have arranged it that way. You can unarrange it by building better railroads and improved buses. And move your cities a bit closer together... That reminds me of an America

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread P. J. Alling
Think taxes, in NYC the combined state local and federal taxes are approaching $1.00 per gallon. In Wyoming the state and local taxes are pretty much non existent. Bob Shell wrote: On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:23 AM, John Mullan wrote: take a gander at this page. http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gast

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Adam Maas
l compared with N. America. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 April 2006 14:34 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices don't go confusing Europe and the European Union. Europe stretches from the Urals to the A

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Adam Maas
Bob W wrote: Unfortunately in 99% of the US today an automobile is a necessity not a luxury. That said, do not believe that price does not affect gas usage. I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not been here generally just don't understand this about the US

Re: Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

2006-04-29 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 03:34:59 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices) > > There are a couple of problems with this, I don't expect that steam will &

Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

2006-04-29 Thread P. J. Alling
There are a couple of problems with this, I don't expect that steam will make a comeback, as direct to electricity is more convenient. Then there's the waste CO(2) from using methane. I don't see it as a problem but the global warming fanatics will. Cotty wrote: On 28/4/06, Bob W, discombob

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread DagT
Den 29. apr. 2006 kl. 15.11 skrev Bob Shell: On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Bob W wrote: I find that Europeans and people from the UK we're Europeans too! Some of my UK friends bristle if called European, so I always try to make the distinction. From an English newspaper: "Storm in the E

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, let's all get together and move Chicago to just outside of New York All together now ... 1-2-3 PUSH! Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob W > And move your cities a bit closer together...

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
Many American cities are close together. If you count the suburbs where commuters live, New York and Philadelphia almost touch. Ditto New York and Boston. But that's beside the point. Part of the American psyche depends heavily on mobility and freedom of movement. Before we solve the problem of

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread DagT
Den 29. apr. 2006 kl. 14.30 skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: "Malcolm Smith" Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not been here generally just don't understand this about the USA. Things are far apart he

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread DagT
Den 29. apr. 2006 kl. 14.20 skrev Bob W: Unfortunately in 99% of the US today an automobile is a necessity not a luxury. That said, do not believe that price does not affect gas usage. I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not been here generally just don't understand this a

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob W
o: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices > > don't go confusing Europe and the European Union. Europe > stretches from the Urals to the Atlantic, and is much larger > than North America. The European Union occupies a remote > peninsula on the westernmost

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob W
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 April 2006 14:00 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices > > What really is shocking is when you look on a globe and see > what a tiny place Europe is. > > graywolf > http://www.graywolfphoto.com > http://web

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob W
-Magnons pointing and laughing at him for such a stupid idea. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 April 2006 13:43 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices > > But then those cities would

Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

2006-04-29 Thread graywolf
And they will get the methane by cracking petroleum. I get a rather grand sense of deja vu from this report, Cotty. How many times over the years have I heard that same story? There is a miracle break through every few years and that is the last you hear of that. As long as you can just pump p

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob Shell
On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Bob W wrote: I find that Europeans and people from the UK we're Europeans too! Some of my UK friends bristle if called European, so I always try to make the distinction. Bob

Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

2006-04-29 Thread graywolf
A hardy laugh is a good way to start the day. Thanks, Bob. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Bob W wrote: [...] Expect fuel cell technology to take off in a very large way over the

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread graywolf
riginal Message - From: "Malcolm Smith" Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not been here generally just don't understand this about the USA. Things are far apart here, and for the most part we don't have transportation alter

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread graywolf
But then those cities would be in danger of being hit by hurricanes. BTW I had this friend who had the solution. He figured that you could move all the people in North America into high rise apartments on Long Island. Then the deer and the bear would have the rest of the continent to themselves

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Malcolm Smith
William Robb wrote: > A friend of ours had a fellow from England over for a visit. > He decided he > wanted to see a bit of the countryside, so we took a short > drive in the > country, perhaps 4 hours at highway speeds (100kph). When we > got home, he > wanted to see how much of Canada we h

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Malcolm Smith
William Robb wrote: > >> And move your cities a bit closer together... > > Lets attempt to come up with realistic ideas. Over here the expansion of cities is making that a reality. Malcolm

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Malcolm Smith" Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not been here generally just don't understand this about the USA. Things are far apart here, and for the most part we don't

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread William Robb
On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Bob W wrote: And move your cities a bit closer together... Lets attempt to come up with realistic ideas. William Robb

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bob Shell wrote: > I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not > been here generally just don't understand this about the USA. > Things are far apart here, and for the most part we don't > have transportation alternatives. You're right on the whole. I've had maps out in the past

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob Shell
On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Bob W wrote: but that's because you guys have arranged it that way. You can unarrange it by building better railroads and improved buses. And move your cities a bit closer together... That reminds me of an American gentleman I met in Munich many, many years ago

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob W
> I find that Europeans and people from the UK we're Europeans too! Bob

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob W
> > Unfortunately in 99% of the US today an automobile is a > necessity not > > a luxury. That said, do not believe that price does not affect gas > > usage. > > > I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not > been here generally just don't understand this about the USA. > Th

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob Shell
On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:16 AM, graywolf wrote: Unfortunately in 99% of the US today an automobile is a necessity not a luxury. That said, do not believe that price does not affect gas usage. I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not been here generally just don't understa

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob Shell
On Apr 28, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Martin Trautmann wrote: Apart from ships dedicated e.g. to south american orange juice (I don't know what they transport backwards), Probably insecticide to spray on the orange trees. Bob

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob Shell
On Apr 28, 2006, at 6:59 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The best price in the Detroit area is now around $2.89/ gallon. When I started driving in 1964, gas was less than 0.30 per gallon in most places. I can well remember storming away from a gas station in outrage back in the 70s, saying, "i

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread Bob Shell
On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:23 AM, John Mullan wrote: take a gander at this page. http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx Looks like Wyoming is the place to live. You'd think gas prices would be somehow related to proximity to refineries, but I don't recall any oil refineries in Wy

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread David Savage
You & me both. Dave S. On 4/29/06, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To be honest I'm far more concerned about the effects of rising property prices, but this thread is OT enough already. - Dave

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-29 Thread David Mann
I do understand the wider consequences of rising fuel prices; I just wish that our society hadn't become so dependent on the stuff. To be honest I'm far more concerned about the effects of rising property prices, but this thread is OT enough already. - Dave On Apr 29, 2006, at 1:56 AM, She

RE: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

2006-04-29 Thread Bob W
> >And > >put more effort and money into finding & exploiting > alternatives to petrol. > > Side note: filmed at Oxford University last week, watched as > methane I think it was methane) was mixed with a catalyst to > produce heat and clean steam - at room temperature! Watch as > steam makes

OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)

2006-04-29 Thread Cotty
On 28/4/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >And >put more effort and money into finding & exploiting alternatives to petrol. Side note: filmed at Oxford University last week, watched as methane I think it was methane) was mixed with a catalyst to produce heat and clean steam - at room temper

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Mishka
http://tinyurl.com/6zy4l best, mishka On 4/27/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can it be we'll someday look back wistfully on these prices when we remember the good old days? What are the prices in your area? http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/gasprices.html Shel

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Tom C
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:29:30 -0400 On 4/28/06, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And the millions of disabled people in the world

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