Re: RE: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-08 Thread mike wilson
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/08 Wed AM 12:23:15 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2006 23:59 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Sad decline

RE: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-07 Thread Bob W
Well, no it isn't, necessarily. Much of the time the joke is aimed at the male - the butt of the humour isn't the character being personified, but rather at the impersonator. No point trying to explain a joke. Especially to people who can't laugh at themselves. And even if it had

Re: Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-07 Thread mike wilson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marnie aka Doe :-) Well, enuff said. It's basically sexist humor if you can't figure that out. Certainly is; but it's the males that are being mocked. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R)

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-07 Thread frank theriault
On 2/6/06, Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In the Lumberjack song, which was way back at the start of this thread (and the origin of the line I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra), the object of ridicule (IMO) is the macho stereotype personified by the lumberjack (apologies

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-07 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:55:25 +0100 schreef frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2/6/06, Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In the Lumberjack song, which was way back at the start of this snip I always thought they were making fun of Canadians. Or weatherforecasters :o) For

Re: affirmatively OT (Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM)

2006-02-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2006 1:19:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With all respect, Marnie; any group who find themselves being the subjects of jokes may take the same stance. I think women have the advantage of a better defined sex role, and a better outlook on how they

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2006 5:58:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip In the Lumberjack song, which was way back at the start of this thread (and the origin of the line I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra), the object of ridicule (IMO) is the macho stereotype

RE: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-07 Thread Bob W
For those who read German: http://www.golyr.de/monty-python/songtext-holzfaeller-song-14 4555.html Hey, how did they find out about Uncle Walt?

Re: affirmatively OT (Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM)

2006-02-07 Thread Keith McGuinness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, BTW, Keith, I haven't heard the Lumberjack song, so maybe you are right that it is more a riff on macho macho man (the movie In and Out with Kevin Kline did it too). The lyrics (in English) are here:

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-07 Thread Cotty
On 6/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Racist? Don't you mean Nationalist? Are all Brits the same race? I wasn't under that impression. I thought Britian had a fair number of Blacks and quite a few Indians. There's a few English as well. Just a few ;-) Cheers, Cotty

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-07 Thread John Forbes
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 23:59:10 -, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Racist? Don't you mean Nationalist? Are all Brits the same race? I wasn't under that impression. I thought Britian had a fair number of Blacks and quite a few

RE: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-07 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2006 23:59 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM On 6/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Racist? Don't you mean Nationalist? Are all Brits the same race? I

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-07 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Bob W wrote: There's a pub round the corner from me which I keep meaning to photograph. The landlord is very Oi for England, and has a huge chalk board on the outside wall on which he writes gung ho nationalist sentiments among the adverts for his beers. At the moment it says What we need is

Re: affirmatively OT (Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM)

2006-02-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2006 1:54:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very, very, very old...but some (the Python dead parrot sketch) is classic British comedy. Keith McG === Yes, that one I remember and that one I liked. Some of those guys were pretty talented. Marnie

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/5/2006 10:35:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, I fail to see why dressing up as a woman is funny. It's a very british thing. They quite succesfully exported it to australia. Not sure about the rest of the commonwealth ;-) -- Regards, Lucas

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:04:37AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/5/2006 10:35:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, I fail to see why dressing up as a woman is funny. It's a very british thing. They quite succesfully exported it to

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread Lucas Rijnders
In a message dated 2/5/2006 10:35:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, I fail to see why dressing up as a woman is funny. It's a very british thing. They quite succesfully exported it to australia. Not sure about the rest of the commonwealth ;-) Yeah, I've seen

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread Lewis Matthew
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I figure the British are really uptight about sex and/or have very strict gender roles. Or both. Probably due to all those public schools. Or something like that. Marnie aka Doe ;-) If my observations during several lengthy stays in London are accurate, you are

RE: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread Bob W
Yeah, I've seen it mainly (as a big humorous thing) in British TV shows (exports). Monty Python, Barney Hill, that one where they all work in a department store, etc. I figure the British are really uptight about sex and/or have very strict gender roles. Or both. Probably due

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Yeah, I've seen it mainly (as a big humorous thing) in British TV shows (exports). Monty Python, Barney Hill, that one where they all work in a department store, etc. I figure the British are really uptight about sex and/or have very strict gender roles. Or both. Probably

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Barney Hill Must be a yank version. Benny Hill meets the Flintstones ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob W wrote: Yeah, I've seen it mainly (as a big humorous thing) in British TV shows (exports). Monty Python, Barney Hill, that one where they all work in a department store, etc. I figure the British are really uptight about sex and/or have very strict gender roles. Or both.

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2006 1:37:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Barney Hill Must be a yank version. Benny Hill meets the Flintstones ;-) Cheers, Cotty Ooops. Sorry. Well, not really, actually Benny Hill as big and purple might be funny. But as someone

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 09:48:01PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marnie aka Doe :-) Well, enuff said. It's basically sexist humor if you can't figure that out. Well, no it isn't, necessarily. Much of the time the joke is aimed at the male - the butt of the humour isn't the character

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2006 8:18:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 09:48:01PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marnie aka Doe :-) Well, enuff said. It's basically sexist humor if you can't figure that out. Well, no it isn't, necessarily. Much

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread Keith McGuinness
John Francis wrote: On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 09:48:01PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marnie aka Doe :-) Well, enuff said. It's basically sexist humor if you can't figure that out. Well, no it isn't, necessarily. Much of the time the joke is aimed at the male - the butt of the humour

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 02:10:43PM +0930, Keith McGuinness wrote: John Francis wrote: And even if it had been, using it as a launching pad for a racist dig at the British really wasn't the best way of making your point. Well, whatever sort of dig it was, it was NOT racist (I am getting

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-06 Thread Keith McGuinness
John Francis wrote: On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 02:10:43PM +0930, Keith McGuinness wrote: John Francis wrote: And even if it had been, using it as a launching pad for a racist dig at the British really wasn't the best way of making your point. Well, whatever sort of dig it was, it was NOT

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-05 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 03:32:38 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/3/2006 6:30:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well...I would say it is a Python thing and that kind of insanity transcends all boundaries. Keith I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra McG

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-05 Thread Amita Guha
On 2/3/06, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. If high heels and hose are involved, it's not only unfunny, it's unnecessarily uncomfortable, too. Sez me, anyway. :D Amen to that...and it makes it harder to cut down trees... Amita

RE: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-04 Thread Bob W
I'm an arboriculturist and I'm ok... Cheers, Bob (an arboriculturist's uncle!) But he still wears suspenders and a bra. Like father, like son... B

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: cbwaters Subject: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM I really can't believe the state of this list. Do you really intend to tell me I read like ten or fifteen posts that referenced CHAINSAWS, and CANADA and not ONE of you had even the slightest inkling

RE: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread Bob W
I really can't believe the state of this list. Do you really intend to tell me I read like ten or fifteen posts that referenced CHAINSAWS, and CANADA and not ONE of you had even the slightest inkling to bring up the Lumberjack Song??? Really...it's unacceptable coming from you

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread Keith McGuinness
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: cbwaters Subject: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM I really can't believe the state of this list. Do you really intend to tell me I read like ten or fifteen posts that referenced CHAINSAWS, and CANADA and not ONE of you had even

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/3/2006 6:30:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well...I would say it is a Python thing and that kind of insanity transcends all boundaries. Keith I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra McG = Actually, I fail to see why dressing up as a woman is

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread David Savage
On 2/4/06, Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra McG Whoa. A bit too much information Keith. g Dave

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/3/06, Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra McG Got any pics? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread Perry Pellechia
On 2/3/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/3/06, Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra McG Got any pics? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com I am not sure which is more disturbing.

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
cbwaters wrote: I really can't believe the state of this list. Do you really intend to tell me I read like ten or fifteen posts that referenced CHAINSAWS, and CANADA and not ONE of you had even the slightest inkling to bring up the Lumberjack Song??? Really...it's unacceptable coming from

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread E.R.N. Reed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/3/2006 6:30:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well...I would say it is a Python thing and that kind of insanity transcends all boundaries. Keith I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra McG = Actually, I fail to see

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread Keith McGuinness
Perry Pellechia wrote: On 2/3/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/3/06, Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra McG Got any pics? I am not sure which is more disturbing. I am! Keith McG

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread Keith McGuinness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/3/2006 6:30:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well...I would say it is a Python thing and that kind of insanity transcends all boundaries. Keith I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra McG = Actually, I fail to see why

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/3/06, Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra McG = Actually, I fail to see why dressing up as a woman is funny. Seems antifeminist -- like you throw like a girl. I've thought of several responses

Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM

2006-02-03 Thread Cotty
On 4/2/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: We don't have lumberjacks. We have arboriculturists. All together now: I'm an arboriculturist and I'm ok... Cheers, Bob (an arboriculturist's uncle!) But he still wears suspenders and a bra. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,