Excellent find Mark. Reconfirms my getting out, so to speak.
Dave
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
Photography as a profession:
http://laurencekim.com/2011/04/28/the-photography-business-and-the-american-dream/
--
Mark Roberts - Photography
An excellent review of the limited opportunities and common missteps. Thanks
for posting.
Paul
On May 14, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Photography as a profession:
http://laurencekim.com/2011/04/28/the-photography-business-and-the-american-dream/
--
Mark Roberts - Photography
On 14/5/11, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
Photography as a profession:
http://laurencekim.com/2011/04/28/the-photography-business-and-the-
american-dream/
thanks for posting
--
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
--
Mark,
That's a good perspective.
The only photographer I know who is really successful (4 Corvettes, 2
boats, etc.),
leverages his marketing and salesman skills by hiring people to shoot weddings.
He's the consumate salesman and had 12 people working for him last weekend,
running photos, videos,
On 14/05/2011 4:48 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Mark,
That's a good perspective.
The only photographer I know who is really successful (4 Corvettes, 2
boats, etc.),
leverages his marketing and salesman skills by hiring people to shoot weddings.
He's the consumate salesman and had 12 people working
Bill,
I agree, he's on a treadmill to keep 1 step ahead of his photographers.
He and his wife do all the sales marketing so he holds onto that
aspect tightly.
I really think that's where the money is.
With the financial crisis, more than half his business dried-up.
He fired more than half of his
pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Professional photography: Right on the money
An excellent review of the limited opportunities and common missteps.
Thanks for posting.
Paul
On May 14, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Photography as a profession:
http://laurencekim.com/2011/04/28
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/11/09 Sun AM 10:13:27 GMT
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Professional Photography at it's Absolute Best.
[...]
I probably stood there looking at him for five seconds before I
mustered this gem:
Im sure your
On 8/11/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
So, I assisted a friend at a wedding today. He brought his wife along, who
is also accomplished in this field.
Officially, I was the light donkey.
Anyway, we got done what we needed the Genies for, so I had moved them
aside, and was in the
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:25 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, if you really want to take cheap shots you should get a Canon Rebel.
MARK
Dave
--
Equine Photography
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
Ontario Canada
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On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:07 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just didn't know what to say
I probably stood there looking at him for five seconds before I mustered
this gem:
Im sure your pictures will be just fine.
I'm sure if you waited 5 more seconds, you could have come
RPS evaluator: Were these taken with a point shoot?
Me: (speechless)
Britain
'Oy, why are taking my picture?'
'Oy, you from the council?'
'Oy, you a policeman?'
'Oy, you can't take pictures here'
'Oy, fack orf!'
Abroad
'You have permit? Show me your passport'
'Why you only take
[...]
I probably stood there looking at him for five seconds before I
mustered this gem:
Im sure your pictures will be just fine.
Excellent.
Who's going to start a book of quips?
My favourites:
'Make sure you get my best side!!!'
'That'll be your backside then..?'
'Make me
Just a friend of the family?
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/8/2008 7:07 PM
So, I assisted a friend at a wedding today. He brought his wife
HAR!
That was cruel.
Cheers,
Dave
BTW, if you really want to take cheap shots you should get a Canon Rebel.
2008/11/9 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
So, I assisted a friend at a wedding today. He brought his wife along, who
is also accomplished in this field.
Officially, I was the light
Bill, i read with great interest the feedback you had on this thread.
As we both try and make extra income from dogs/horses i wanted to wait and see
what would
transpire
over not only these last few shows but what emails photographers have sent
lately.
I am sorry for waiting close to 2
On 30/6/05, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:
Recently, I had the chance to have Larry from Prescott, of the list,
produce a large print for me. The image was this one:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm
Did you provide proof of copyright? ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Recently, I had the chance to have Larry from Prescott, of the list,
produce a large print for me. The image was this one:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm
I have to say, that he did a marvelous job. In this case, I sent him
the original
How did u get such a DR? Grad filter or flash, or what?
rg
Bruce Dayton wrote:
Recently, I had the chance to have Larry from Prescott, of the list,
produce a large print for me. The image was this one:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm
I have to say, that he did a marvelous
DR? What is that?
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Thursday, June 30, 2005, 2:11:50 PM, you wrote:
G How did u get such a DR? Grad filter or flash, or what?
G rg
G Bruce Dayton wrote:
Recently, I had the chance to have Larry from Prescott, of the list,
produce a large print for me. The image
I did not use any filters or flash for this shot. The sky was quite
overcast and caused fairly flat, even light. It was the kind of day
that you would think you are not going to get any good shots, but
turned out to be a great outing for me.
--
Bruce
Thursday, June 30, 2005, 2:32:59 PM, you
Dynamic Range. I would have not expected such a scene with the bright
sky and the ground to be captured without some type of trick, such as a
grad-filter, dual images @ different exposures and post processing to
merge, or a flash.
rg
Bruce Dayton wrote:
DR? What is that?
Hi all:
Thanks Bruce.
Yes, I am available for custom prints. I prefer to do fine art landscapes
and such. I'm not that good at portraits because I don't enjoy doing that
kind of printing. If, however, you have a fine art image you would like
printed up to 16 wide, that's what I'm good at. I
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Professional Courtesy
Her bad karma will come back to haunt
her some day...
I'm the show superintendant.
Will likely be that again next year.
William Robb
Wow - not only was she
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm the show superintendant.
Will likely be that again next year.
William Robb
Ooops :-)
hmm perhaps I should submit a tender. Give me the job
and you can use my lights. How's that. ;-)
Wendy
Wendy Beard
Ottawa, Canada
- Original Message -
From: wendy beard
Subject: Re: Professional Courtesy
hmm perhaps I should submit a tender. Give me the job
and you can use my lights. How's that. ;-)
Works for me, and you can probably pick up a few points in the working dog
category as well.
We had
I thought it might be nice if I could do something in controlled light, so
asked the show photographer if I could plug into her lights for a moment to
do the shoot.
I shoot alot of childrens dance etc, and one of the value added courtesies(sp)
I provide is a scenic back drop where
P. J. Alling wrote:
You're no Old West Judge, I'd a' hanged them. (In Texas the old Gent
could have shot them on the spot).
keithw wrote:
Oh yeah, no questions asked either. Tresspassin is a shootin offense
here, keeps this kind of thing from happening.
rg
Yea, but I live in Connecticut, and would have had to drag all of their
sorry carcasses into my living room, and made sure they were dead
Gonz wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
You're no Old West Judge, I'd a' hanged them. (In Texas the old
Gent could have shot them on the spot).
keithw
On 6/11/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or lack of it
At our dog show today, a lady asked if I would take a couple of head shots
of her Doberman for her.
Of course, I said yes.
She didn't want anything fancy, just something to show off the dogs
conformation, and she certainly
On 13 Jun 2005 at 19:32, frank theriault wrote:
There's such a thing as courtesy, and tweeb doesn't have it. This
you're taking money out of my pocket thing is a pile of crap; you
weren't. What it really comes down to is that she wanted to let you
know that she was the offical
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Professional Courtesy
Her bad karma will come back to haunt
her some day...
I'm the show superintendant.
Will likely be that again next year.
William Robb
On 6/13/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Oz you'd also have liability and indemnity in the back of your mind as the
equipment lender. snip
How so? You mean if something went awry, and tweeb's equipment fried
Bill's? Or if Bill tripped over her equipment or perhaps knocked it
On 6/13/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm the show superintendant.
Will likely be that again next year.
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA
I know you're not one to hold a grudge, Bill, so I'm sure she'll get
some prime shooting locations next year.
ROTFLMAO!
cheers,
frank
So lets be straight about this, you are bad karma...
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re:
Professional Courtesy
Her bad karma will come back to haunt
her some day...
I'm the show superintendant.
Will likely be that again next year
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, William Robb wrote:
I thought it might be nice if I could do something in controlled light, so
asked the show photographer if I could plug into her lights for a moment to
do the shoot.
Not sure about that one, William. Perhaps I am too shy by nature and
overly
Without looking at any of the replies, I bet this one is going to be controversial. Anyone who has
done event photography can sympathize with the pro's point of view. However there is
right and there is stupid. Knowing how you are connected into the local dog
scene up there, she probably just
- Original Message -
From: Graywolf
Subject: Re: Professional Courtesy
So without knowing the exact situation we can not make a valid decision on
whether she was just being a shit or acting properly.
A little bit of both.
I've been on both sides of that one. My reaction
So without knowing the exact situation we can not make a valid decision on
whether she was just being a shit or acting properly.
Graywolf
A little bit of both.
I've been on both sides of that one. My reaction is to help the other guy
out, especially if it will cost me nothing to do so,
-owner some fine shots anyway, whatever the
lighting you had to use.
regards,
Anthony Farr
-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Graywolf
Subject: Re: Professional Courtesy
So without knowing the exact situation we
I can easily see two side in this case. As others have mentioned, the
photographer and hosting club may have entered into an exclusive contract;
she may have seen this as taking money out of her purse, and she may indeed
be carrying a heavy debt. This would justify a refusal, but on the other
Rethinking ...
Even if the young pro though the request was out of place
there is little place for such rudeness. Thinking back, some
of the people whom I remember most fondly are those who
showed me grace when I spoke or behaved in a very stupid or
thoughtless manner. Grace goes a long way to
Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rethinking ...
Even if the young pro thought the request was out of place
there is little place for such rudeness.
Mr. Nail meet Mr. Hammer.
WHAM!
(Right on the head.)
Bravo Collin!
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
Boris Liberman wrote:
There is a word in Hebrew that sounds exactly this - interesant - I
hope its meaning is self-evident. Our age is that of interesants,
nothing more, nothing less...
In English, the first word that comes to my mind to describe your
coworker is jackass -- however, there
William Robb wrote:
Or lack of it
At our dog show today, a lady asked if I would take a couple of head
shots of her Doberman for her.
Of course, I said yes.
She didn't want anything fancy, just something to show off the dogs
conformation, and she certainly wasn't looking for a pro
Welcome to the 21st century.
William Robb wrote:
Or lack of it
At our dog show today, a lady asked if I would take a couple of head
shots of her Doberman for her.
Of course, I said yes.
She didn't want anything fancy, just something to show off the dogs
conformation, and she certainly
You're no Old West Judge, I'd a' hanged them. (In Texas the old Gent
could have shot them on the spot).
keithw wrote:
William Robb wrote:
Or lack of it
At our dog show today, a lady asked if I would take a couple of head
shots of her Doberman for her.
Of course, I said yes.
She
Hmmm. Interesting.
I've never known a pro who'd give up his livelihood to a stranger,
and it might rightly be considered a bit rude by some that a perfect
stranger might ask such.
Using his equipment seems almost like shooting over a wedding photog's
shoulder.
But then again I live in the
Bill,
It's distressing to read that ... the dweeb probably had no clue that by
helping out a little she could have earned good will points, made a friend
or two, passed out some cards, and helped herself while helping you and the
dog owner, who wasn't going to pay for a professional portrait of
I don't agree. The I wasn't going to pay for a full price
version, so there's no harm done is an excuse I don't accept.
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 07:07:06PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Bill,
It's distressing to read that ... the dweeb probably had no clue that by
helping out a little she
Boy, I would sure like to hear more about the circumstances. I know
that recently, I have been doing the little league action pictures in
my locale - I only make money from what is ordered - basically
speculation shooting. I do have the exclusivity of the league to be
on the field. What you
Hi!
Or lack of it
At our dog show today, a lady asked if I would take a couple of head
shots of her Doberman for her.
Of course, I said yes.
She didn't want anything fancy, just something to show off the dogs
conformation, and she certainly wasn't looking for a pro portrait
I thought it
It is a fantasy indeed. If you are correct about Pentax's approach,
Pål, they are -- yet again -- aiming to produce too little too late.
Your loyalty to Pentax management is admirable, but you're beginning
again to sound like the official Pentax Apologist at Large.
Pål Jensen wrote
Rob
You do not seem to get it, Pal.
You have to put the sensor in the film plane. Magazine back cameras have the
film plane several millimeters behind the attachment point. Fixed back cameras
have the film rails exactly at the film plane. No digital sensor that I know of
has the sensor array on the
Daniel wrote:
If you are correct about Pentax's approach, Pål, they are -- yet again -- aiming to
produce too little too late.
REPLY:
Since I'm feeling particularly argumentative today, I'd like to comment on this one.
:-)
What exactly are they supposed to be too late to? MF and MF digital
Shel wrote:
Which Hassy bodies and lenses are Fuji?
REPLY:
The H1 and the X-pan. The rest of the range is probably soon history. I wouldn't be
surprised the Hasselblad is soon just a brand name for some larger company like Contax
is for Kyocera.
I feel pretty sure that some companies wont
Pål Jensen wrote:
Shel wrote:
Which Hassy bodies and lenses are Fuji?
REPLY:
The H1 and the X-pan. The rest of the range is probably soon history. I wouldn't be surprised the Hasselblad is soon just a brand name for some larger company like Contax is for Kyocera.
I feel pretty sure that some
Which Hassy bodies and lenses are Fuji?
Shel
All of their new 645 system (H-1?) is re-badged Fuji
Butch
;-((
Welcome back, Butch ;-)
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which Hassy bodies and lenses are Fuji?
Shel
All of their new 645 system (H-1?) is re-badged Fuji
Butch
On 8 Sep 2004 at 18:10, Pål Jensen wrote:
Stupid? Whereas Pentax, a company larger by several magnitude than all other MF
manufacturers put together, has teamed up with Kodak and Sony, giants both.
Hasselblad, whose cameras you can get digital backs for, is virtually bankrupt.
Their cameras
...
- Original Message -
From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Professional Pentax
Pål Jensen wrote:
The H1 and the X-pan. The rest of the range is probably soon history. I
wouldn't be surprised the Hasselblad
Looks like all interchangable back 645's are supported. Too bad Pentax never
thought there was a need for that feature. I notice that the 22 back has a
sensor twice the size of a 35mm frame. No prices mentioned, but I imagine that
if you have to ask you can not afford one.
--
Caveman wrote:
The 645 is a really nice MF camera with many features from their 35mm
cameras (autofocus, multizone metering etc.). I believe that the original
645 were once marketed as as easy to use as a SLR. If you want to go pro,
then Pentax answer is that you have to go to medium format. It's an
Why does everyone insist on talking about pro photographers as if they
all shot the same subjects, and they all had the same shooting style? The
645N II is a great camera, but it can't--and wasn't meant to--compete with
an F5/1v in many ways. They're different tools, and each has its
advantages
In 35mm it is somewhat clouded by the fact that Pentax hasn't really
marketed to the pro market. It would be safe to say that any of their *
lenses (A*, FA*,etc) are pro oriented as would be most of their really long
glass. All of their medium format lenses would be considered pro oriented
but
Bruce wrote:
Your homework
assignment is to find out how many current production lenses Pentax has that
meets these criteria.
Count all FA* and FA Limited lenses and the few odd A pro grade lenses still in
production and you're all set. If you want to, you can count all Pentax MF lenses as
I have 1 Nikon body and 7 Pentax bodies.:)
Prior to optaining the DSLR body all of my
horse work was done with the K1000,now about
75%.
Dave
Begin Original Message
From: Rodelion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:39:02 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Professional
on 9/22/02 6:22 PM, Butch Black at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I wasn't aware that Nikon is designing all levels of lenses as G lenses.
I bet it will P*** off a number of Nikon users.
You mean like Nikon's new 70-200/2.8 AF-S VR? Or didn't you know that Nikon
has started dropping the
Yes it has, is and will.
From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, I wasn't aware that Nikon is designing all levels of lenses as G
lenses.
I bet it will P*** off a number of Nikon users.
Using the term pro quickly gets things into a muddle, because of its many
connotations. Keep the concept industrial strength/high performance in
your mind when thinking about camera equipment. Generally, (I said
generally) prime lenses and f2.8 constant aperture zoom lenses are ruggedly
built and
- Original Message -
From: James Fellows
Subject: Professional Gear
photographer was using a Pentax K-1000. I do not know
what the lens was but I found it intersiting to see it being
used.
I shot a lot of weddings and portraits with my K1000's. I really
like the things.
William
A Nikon user with a K1000... Odd, indeed... I guess it must have been some
kind of nostalgy?
- Original Message -
From: James Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: Professional Gear
I know this topic keeps coming up but I
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 01:26 PM, James Fellows wrote:
I know this topic keeps coming up but I to metion what happened
today. I
coach my 5 yeqr old's soccer team and today was picture day. There were
about 50 teams of 10 kids each and the photo outfit that was handling
it
On 21 Sep 2002 at 14:26, James Fellows wrote:
I know this topic keeps coming up but I to metion what happened today. I
coach my 5 yeqr old's soccer team and today was picture day. There were
about 50 teams of 10 kids each and the photo outfit that was handling it had 4
stations setup. One
It could also be that he got the F5 with a consumer grade zoom, or worse yet
a G lens. Nikon's consumer grade zooms range from ok to poor and the G in G
lens stands for garbage.
also confided that he had recently inherited his late father-in-law's
K1000 and 50mm lens and, in lowered tones, was
Peter Alling wrote:
Now why would the TI rep drop the HP just to show it
wouldn't break :)
HP built great calculators that's one of the reasons
they have semi abandoned the calculator field, once you
own an HP you never have to buy another.
Yep. Still use my HP 12c. Hardly ever runs
F2 I believe.
At 04:31 AM 7/30/2001 -0400, you wrote:
In a message dated 7/29/01 9:27:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This the Nikon F3 you are talking about? The one that came out
about 1978?
Thanks for the education. Exactly which Nikon F body connected to the
So by inference ramming a hockey stick up a persons ass
isn't Brain surgery unless the rammer has gone to medical
school. I thought that the Canadian medical system was in
trouble because of rampant bureaucracy. Now I see that they have
other problems
(Now this should draw some flack).
At
it onto the concrete floor,
pick it up, and use it. The TI rep couldn't do that.
No guessing where the contract went.
Collin
From: Mafud
Subject: Re: Professional: meta-discussion
***Every serviceman in Vietnam heard
variations of one of the famous Vietnam
Urban legend, that of the Nikon F-3
Hey if you think you heard bellyaching amd moaning about the MZ-S, you
should of been in HP group when HP released the HP49G... If you don't have
any idea what I am talking about, picture Pentax releasing something like a
Canon Rebel.
Todd
At 08:58 PM 8/3/01 +0100, you wrote:
Now why would
In a message dated 8/1/01 1:33:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Well, whoever posted it did so on May 17, 2000, more than 14 months before
this current fracus and is sandwiched between posts on May 15, 2000 May
20, 2000. In other words, it has nothing to do with the
Bob Blakely wrote:
Well, whoever posted it did so on May 17, 2000, more than 14 months before
this current fracus and is sandwiched between posts on May 15, 2000 May
20, 2000. In other words, it has nothing to do with the current discussions.
I have no idea why anyone would have done any
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
_
To: tom@bigday
Tom,
I'm thunderstruck you would believe I wrote the trash attached below. Wrong
syntax (I'm cooler than ~that~), ~wrong~ signature (I ~never~ sign a post
with anything other than ~MAFUD~, [one
Hi Tom,
Second, I think. But I agree--lashing out at the people who stand up for
you isn't very smart, unless your plan is to alienate everyone: friends,
foes, and neutrals, alike.
The naive might try to rescue a hornet from spider web once, but probably
not twice.
Dan Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
He doesn't care. He never has cared. He never will care.
From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
_
To: tom@bigday
Tom,
I'm thunderstruck you would believe I wrote the trash attached below.
Wrong
syntax (I'm cooler
Frank Theriault wrote:
Sadly, no. I had my kids this weekend (that's not sad!), and went to
our company picnic all day Saturday. Friday was a busy day, and when I
was standing by waiting for calls, I was outside of the core. Poop!
Did you get there? Any good deals?
I was at a
...
- Original Message -
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Professional?
Robert Harris wrote:
-- although the latest silliness exercise, going under
the label professional, does seem unending as well as reaching
In a message dated 7/31/01 2:44:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What are you talking about?
You infer that ~you~ (anyone) can use a fictitious name to post to the list.
By that did you mean a signature or URL itself? Q: How can someone be on the
list with a fictitious
Bob Blakely wrote:
You are correct, Mafud.
If a list has a membership and to become part of the
list requires that the email address be verified, it is not possible to
spoof the address. This is why we assume with some confidence (though not
complete) that the post was yours. I found it
You are correct, Mafud. If a list has a membership and to become part of the
list requires that the email address be verified, it is not possible
to
spoof the address. This is why we assume with some confidence (though
not
complete) that the post was yours. I found it humorous, just
lighthearted
Har!
Actually, I thought it was pretty good.
Regards,
Not the same Bob. Different Bob...
(I think I rather like fascist dog.)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are correct, Mafud. If a list has a membership and to become part
of the
list requires that the email address be verified, it is not
Well, whoever posted it did so on May 17, 2000, more than 14 months before
this current fracus and is sandwiched between posts on May 15, 2000 May
20, 2000. In other words, it has nothing to do with the current discussions.
I have no idea why anyone would have done any source forging during that
Subj:Re: Professional?
Date: 7/31/01 5:44:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are correct, Mafud. If a list has a membership and to become part of the
list requires that the email address be verified, it is not possible to
spoof the address. This is why we
Over time, a man's writing becomes his signature. Check the past. This is
not Mafud's signature.
Martin.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Subj:Re: Professional?
Date: 7/31/01 5:44:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are correct, Mafud. If a list has
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:24:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So show us your web page stuff.
What, you and Robb can't read? My post specifically referenced in October.
And again, why do you and Robb ~insist~ on being childish, you show me
yours, I'll show you
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:58:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Heck girl, not only is it the worlds oldest
profession, but it is a lot like professional
photography.
You have to do shows, competitions, smooze with
the local artists, show
biz people, local
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:24:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Subj: Re: Professional
Date: 7/29/01 6:24:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shel Belinkoff)
So show us your web page stuff.
You quote me below, read it,
What's the URL
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:47:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But what makes you think I'd ever involve myself in you show me yours,
I'll
show you mine endeavors?
erhhmmm - credibility SOMETHING to justify all that hot air...
Credibility? From who?
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:28:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One of the things that I find most interesting about you - or at least
your on line personality - is that you have a decided lack of humor.
Lighten up, relax, and enjoy, rather than fight, the
Watch out. Head swell. :)
Thanks.
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's more important to be a photographer than a professional.
I'm collecting quotations from the PDML. That one just made the list!
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