RE: SD Card Survey

2013-02-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bipin Gupta Hello Bruce and PDMLer Friends, That is the question: why buy 16 GB Cards when you can't fill it up in a shoot?? I use mostly 8 GB + 4 GB extreme Sandisk Cards - agree they are the best, reliable and safer too as Bruce puts it. While in Cologne, Germany, I visited Media Mart,

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Bruce Walker
Simple: I use a 16 GB because I repeatedly filled-up my 8 GB cards during shoots. :-) I dislike finding I have to change cards in normal shooting. I invariably lose a couple of shots before discovering that the card is full, and it's distracting. But stopping to fiddle with the camera is

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 31 January 2013 21:27, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Simple: I use a 16 GB because I repeatedly filled-up my 8 GB cards during shoots. :-) I dislike finding I have to change cards in normal shooting. I invariably lose a couple of shots before discovering that the card is

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bruce and PDMLer Friends, That is the question: why buy 16 GB Cards when you can't fill it up in a shoot?? 1) I don't like to delete files from cards during a vacation, even after I've copied them to the laptop. So

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Stan Halpin
On Jan 31, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bruce and PDMLer Friends, That is the question: why buy 16 GB Cards when you can't fill it up in a shoot?? 1) I don't like to delete files from cards during a

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread George Sinos
Your going to get all kinds of advice. On Name brand vs. generic brands. You'll hear people swear by one or the other. There are not enough photographers here that buy enough cards for any of their experience to be statically valid. So, most people are really working on gut feel and

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
In truth, there are a number of web sites that have tested and rated cards, and the Sandisk Extreme is most frequently recommended. That is in synch with what most of the photographers here have said and my own experience. Here's one review: http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-sd-card/ On

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: People have mentioned a concern with losing cards as a reason to go with smaller cards, thereby minimizing the quantity of images that might be lost. I have two thoughts about that. First, if it is a 32GB or 64GB card in the camera and I almost

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling
Losing cards is a problem but a card can also becoming non functional, I've had a few physically fall apart making them unusable, but I was able to recover the data from them. However as a cautionary tail a friend of mine, went on a once in a lifetime vacation to southern Africa, intending to

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Take a laptop along and download when returning to your abode. With the bigger cards, you can go 2 or 3 days before downloading. And the laptop is good for editing, review of the day. Lightroom is free (loading on Desktop + Laptop is SOP). And you've got your first backup copy set, another on the

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
On those big trips, it's foolish not to have a test of all your equipment and components. He might have found the problem card a bit sooner. And bring the wife along with a PS digital, as a failsafe. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:31 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Stan Halpin
On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: People have mentioned a concern with losing cards as a reason to go with smaller cards, thereby minimizing the quantity of images that might be lost. I have two thoughts about that. First, if it is a

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling
His wife divorced him a couple of years ago, so that wasn't a particularly attractive option. On 1/31/2013 3:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: On those big trips, it's foolish not to have a test of all your equipment and components. He might have found the problem card a bit sooner. And bring the

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Stan Halpin
On Jan 31, 2013, at 2:31 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Losing cards is a problem but a card can also becoming non functional, I've had a few physically fall apart making them unusable, but I was able to recover the data from them. However as a cautionary tail a friend of mine, went on a once in

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: People have mentioned a concern with losing cards as a reason to go with smaller cards, thereby minimizing the quantity of images that might be lost. I have two

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
You could always buy the new Bimbo a digital PS and take her along, Especially for those long winter nights. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:21 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: His wife divorced him a couple of years ago, so that wasn't a particularly attractive

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Paul Sorenson
Like Stan and Bob S I back up the cards on a daily basis. It doesn't take exotic equipment to do it - I use a 4 yer old netbook w/an SD card slot and a 360 gig external drive and just copy the images from the card. Both Irfanview and Faststone Image Viewer do an adequate job if I want to

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Stan, I do much the same, but no external drive and no international trips either. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: People have mentioned

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread steve harley
on 2013-01-31 10:11 Paul Stenquist wrote In truth, there are a number of web sites that have tested and rated cards, and the Sandisk Extreme is most frequently recommended. That is in synch with what most of the photographers here have said and my own experience. Here's one

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread steve harley
on 2013-01-30 23:59 Bipin Gupta wrote Hello Bruce and PDMLer Friends, That is the question: why buy 16 GB Cards when you can't fill it up in a shoot?? i answered elsewhere but here it is again — for possible video use and for ad hoc sneakernet (copying large files from one computer to another

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread lrc
I havent yet had a sandisk card fall apart. All of my patriot cards have. steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-01-31 10:11 Paul Stenquist wrote In truth, there are a number of web sites that have tested and rated cards, and the Sandisk Extreme is most frequently recommended. That is

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling
I've had a Sandisk and another manufactures cards fall apart, case split on the seam, first indication of a mechanical failure was the write protect tab falling off and getting lost, (they're just impossible to find). They were still readable and fit in the *ist-Ds memory slot with tape over

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Stan Halpin
On Jan 31, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: People have mentioned a concern with losing cards as a reason to go with smaller cards, thereby minimizing the

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Zos Xavius
Didn't the pz-1p have a titanium vertical shutter? I think it would be pretty hard to get to 1/8000 with a cloth shutter Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Jan 31, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:51 PM,

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Stan Halpin
I think you are right Zos. All I can recall clearly is that my thumb severely mangled the moving part of the shutter mechanism. The damaged cloth shutter I was thinking of was in the Leica I inherited and had to have repaired. Still haven't put any film through that paper weight! stan On Jan

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 07:32:39PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: Don't change recording media in the heat of the moment; wait for a quiet time and place, thus avoiding potential disasters that might befall media and/or camera. One of the nice things about digital media is that you can actually

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Zos Xavius
I cannot possibly imagin having a working leica and not at least trying a roll. I'm not a huge rangefinder fan but there is something nice about the pure manual operation. Its why I like my k1000 so much, though I must admit I found a zx-7 for $15 (with an fa 28-80 no less) in a thrift store

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-31 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 07:32:39PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: Don't change recording media in the heat of the moment; wait for a quiet time and place, thus avoiding potential disasters that might befall media and/or camera. One of the nice things about digital media is

SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Aahz Maruch
Howdy, Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax). So I checked the archives and don't see any recent threads about SD cards,

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Bruce Walker
Welcome aboard, Aahz! SanDisk Extreme 16GB is my choice. You can't get any safer and reliable than that. I also have some older 8 GB and 4 GB Extremes but they mostly just gather kit-bag lint as I've never filled-up the 16 GB on a shoot. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Aahz Maruch

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Zos Xavius
I use class 10 8gb cards. They are dirt cheap. On a k-5 I get like 230 shots or so. When one runs full I just pop another in. If one fails I lost 10 bux and some pictures. That's almost the equivalent of 10 rolls of film so that should be enough for a lot of people. Aahz Maruch

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
I've have Patriot and Kingston 16gb plus some Patriot LX 32gb cards, speed class 10 if possible. I buy cheap stuff, less than $1 per gb, sometimes $.50 per gb at Frys. The cards hold a lot of pictures (300+ each), and are tiny. I get nervous having so many per card. Take a laptop and download to

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/30/2013 1:57 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: Howdy, Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax). So I checked the archives and

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Boris Liberman
Welcome, Aahz! Galia (my daughter) is using 16GB SanDisk card. I think it is SD Extreme or whatever. I am using Patriot LX 64GB SDXC card (which is total accident, really, as it was bought for a very different purpose). In order to use it reliably, I had to upgrade firmware of both our K-5 to

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Rick Womer
, Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:57 PM Subject: SD Card Survey Howdy, Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person decades ago, currently have

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be merciful (maybe!). I assume that anyone who associates with Larry can deal with the rest of us. I mostly use a Sandisk Extreme 16 GB and a HP 32 GB card

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 02:05:42PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: Welcome aboard, Aahz! SanDisk Extreme 16GB is my choice. You can't get any safer and reliable than that. I've only got the Ultras, not the Extreme. I started off with 8GBs when I bought my K-5, but when I was in Texas in November

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 02:45:37PM -0500, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be merciful (maybe!). I assume that anyone who associates with Larry can deal with the

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Bruce Walker
Camera gear investment: a few thousand bucks Once in a lifetime cruise: many thousands of bucks I use class 10 8gb cards. They are dirt cheap. [...] If one fails I lost 10 bux and some pictures. Priceless! On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: I use class

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Zos Xavius
Better to lose 8gb worth of pictures than 32just sayinoften when I need a card only radio shack is close and I need one that day so rather than pay their insane prices I just buy a reasonable 8gb. Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Camera gear investment: a few thousand bucks

RE: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell
, January 30, 2013 3:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: SD Card Survey Better to lose 8gb worth of pictures than 32just sayinoften when I need a card only radio shack is close and I need one that day so rather than pay their insane prices I just buy a reasonable 8gb. Bruce Walker

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, Rick Womer wrote: It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be merciful (maybe!). What is this mercy of which you speak? Recently I bought an Extreme Pro 90MB/s card, and compared write and read speeds with a 45MB/s card in the K-5. There was no

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread lrc
I think that tbe last time I bought sandisk extreme the best value were the 32GB cards. They have the advantage of not needing to swap them out often. Copy your raw files to external drives each day and keep a spare copy of the files on the cards until you get home. Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread lrc
However faster card s offload to the computer faster. Make sure you get a fast card reader though. Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, Rick Womer wrote: It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be merciful (maybe!). What is this mercy of which you

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 30, 2013, at 13:05 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome aboard, Aahz! SanDisk Extreme 16GB is my choice. You can't get any safer and reliable than that. I'm with Bruce on this. Takes a lot to fill 16GB. I've only ever done it at very long concerts. Brand-name

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: Does anyone have a link to the spectacular shot of an Alaskan glacier that was posted here some time ago? I'd guess it was a Denali shot by Ken Waller, but my Google-fu is weak today. I think the shot was taken with the 600/f4. I think you're referring to the one he sent in

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: John Francis wrote: Does anyone have a link to the spectacular shot of an Alaskan glacier that was posted here some time ago? I'd guess it was a Denali shot by Ken Waller, but my Google-fu is weak today. I think the shot was taken with the

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread kwaller
gave me a wide format printer. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Francis jo...@panix.com Subject: Re: SD Card Survey On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 02:45:37PM -0500, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Rick

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread kwaller
phenomenal weather - mostly sunny with temps in the low 50's to high 60's during the day. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com Subject: SD Card Survey Howdy, Larry Colen made me join this list (I used

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread steve harley
on 2013-01-30 11:57 Aahz Maruch wrote I'm wondering what size and kinds of cards people are using, particularly people with K-5/K-30. i don't buy the Sandisk mythology; i've been using a no-name Team 32GB Class 10 card for the last 6 months, only one month of which i've had a K-5;

RE: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread John Sessoms
From: Aahz Maruch Howdy, Larry Colen made me join this list (I used to be a Pentax SLR person decades ago, currently have a Nikon P7100, Larry's giving me advice on kit to rent for a mid-May Alaska cruise, which will of course be Pentax). So I checked the archives and don't see any recent

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread steve harley
on 2013-01-30 16:42 John Sessoms wrote Will 32GB Class10 SDHC cards work with the K-20D? i have such a card that works fine with my K200d, which came out the same year as K20d -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread John Sessoms
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, Rick Womer wrote: It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be merciful (maybe!). What is this mercy of which you speak? You don't get thrown into a pun thread on your very first post. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Mark C
I use Sandisk Extreme and Sandisk Extreme Pro cards. I don't see much difference in performance with the K-5 or the Q so the Extreme would probably be the best option. I'm starting to switch from 8 gb cards to 16 gb, though I rarely fill a 16gb card in a single session. Mark On 1/30/2013

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/30/2013 6:49 PM, John Sessoms wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, Rick Womer wrote: It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be merciful (maybe!). What is this mercy of which you speak? You don't get thrown into a pun thread on your very first post. Too late. --

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Back when I was shooting with Pentax *ist DS and K10D, I had standardized on 2G Sandisk Extreme cards. Then, 2008ish onwards, I standardized on 8G Sandisk Extremes with Panasonic L1 and G1 bodies. Last year, I upgraded to 16 and 32 G Sandisk Extreme and HP Class 10s, shooting with Ricoh GXR-M

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, John Sessoms wrote: Aahz: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, Rick Womer wrote: It's terrible that Larry has forced you into this. We'll try to be merciful (maybe!). What is this mercy of which you speak? You don't get thrown into a pun thread on your very first post. The shortest

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013, l...@red4est.com wrote: Copy your raw files to external drives each day and keep a spare copy of the files on the cards until you get home. I'm expecting to rent a GoPro to sit on the ship rail for timelapse photography (plus likely other random usage for photos and

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Same here: 16 G Sandusk extreme and extreme pro. I own some transcend cards as well but haven't used them for quite some time. Paul via phone On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: I use Sandisk Extreme and Sandisk Extreme Pro cards. I don't see much difference in

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
My wife presented me with a 16gb card that she had washed and dried...and it's not the first time! Each card worked fine after the wash and dry cycle. They are tougher than they look. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:42 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Aahz Maruch

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Larry Colen
I started out using Patriot SD cards, which were very cheap at Fry's. They pretty much all worked fine electrically, even after they started falling apart physically. I had decent luck with Transcend 8GB cards, but when it got down to $40 for a 32GB Sandisk Extreme, I just started going with

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I rarely fill up even a 2G card in a single shoot. (I tend to shoot with digital much the way I shoot with medium format film ...) But, it's nice to have lots of space for the rare occasions when I will shoot a LOT in a short period of time. At the present prices, a 16 or 32 G card is just too

Re: SD Card Survey

2013-01-30 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: Hello Bruce and PDMLer Friends, That is the question: why buy 16 GB Cards when you can't fill it up in a shoot?? You may not fill it up in a shoot, but you could fill it up in a vacation. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est