Ditto! I, also, feel Approval to be assured.
IOW, pointless. Shame!
J
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Subject: Has the Pentax Photo Gallery run its course?
I think a lot of people here lost interest so
I think a lot of people here lost interest some time ago but I've
continued to submit images because the PPG has been an easy way to
compile a nicely presented online gallery.
Lately, though, I'm seeing a lack of interest on the part of
Ricoh/Pentax. For example, submissions are taking over
bert wrote:
Hi all,
Well, I've had a couple more images accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery,
making it a grand total of eight, and thought I'd share with the group. The
two most recent are the ostrich ("Maybelline") and the fawn ("Trepidation").
I still ha
Thank you, Jack!
Glad you enjoyed it. :-)
-- Walt
On 12/8/2010 12:28 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Just took a very pleasing look. Excellent, Walt.
Jack
--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbert wrote:
From: Walter Gilbert
Subject: More Additions to the Pentax Photo Gallery
To: "Pentax-Di
> Hi all,
>
> Well, I've had a couple more images accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery,
> making it a grand total of eight, and thought I'd share with the group. The
> two most recent are the ostrich ("Maybelline") and the fawn ("Trepidation").
Just took a very pleasing look. Excellent, Walt.
Jack
--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbert wrote:
> From: Walter Gilbert
> Subject: More Additions to the Pentax Photo Gallery
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 9:58 AM
> Hi all,
>
Hi all,
Well, I've had a couple more images accepted into the Pentax Photo
Gallery, making it a grand total of eight, and thought I'd share with
the group. The two most recent are the ostrich ("Maybelline") and the
fawn ("Trepidation").
I still have one mor
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> I don't usually announce when a shot has made it into the PPG but this
> one makes me smile. And it's a very "un-Mark-Roberts-ish" photo. Here
> it is on my web page:
> http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/mayorscup2009b/7d905308.html
HAR!!
Indeed, it is not your style, Mark. But it made me chuckle just as well.
Thanks for sharing!
Boris
On 9/27/2010 10:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
I don't usually announce when a shot has made it into the PPG but this
one makes me smile. And it's a very "un-Mark-Roberts-ish" photo. Here
it is on m
LoL.. Nice composition in any case.
Jack
--- On Mon, 9/27/10, Mark Roberts wrote:
> From: Mark Roberts
> Subject: Re: Photo just accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 5:51 PM
> Jack Davis wr
Jack Davis wrote:
>"Formula Trike." What a terrific catch, Mark! Full frame?
Nope. I shot it with a Pentax. ;-)
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Mark Roberts wrote:
I don't usually announce when a shot has made it into the PPG but this
one makes me smile. And it's a very "un-Mark-Roberts-ish" photo. Here
it is on my web page:
http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/mayorscup2009b/7d905308.html
certainly is un-you more Stenquestianish
"Formula Trike." What a terrific catch, Mark! Full frame?
Actually, he hasn't been off of formula very long.
Jack
--- On Mon, 9/27/10, Mark Roberts wrote:
> From: Mark Roberts
> Subject: Photo just accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery
> To: "Pentax-Discu
> I don't usually announce when a shot has made it into the PPG but this one
> makes me smile. And it's a very "un-Mark-Roberts-ish" photo. Here it is on
> my web page:
> http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/mayorscup2009b/7d905308.html
he's laughing at Cotty because a Breton fisherman stole his c
We were all young once.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:47 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:
> Using the wrong finger for trash talking.
> I'm sure he'll figure it out though.
>
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Miserere wrote:
> Too many people for a Mark photo, too much colour for a Knarf
> photo...who the hell took it???
No blue jays so not me.
Great shot Mark, or who ever took it.
Dave
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Using the wrong finger for trash talking.
I'm sure he'll figure it out though.
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On 27 September 2010 16:27, Mark Roberts wrote:
> I don't usually a
That is a great image.
Dan
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> I don't usually announce when a shot has made it into the PPG but this
> one makes me smile. And it's a very "un-Mark-Roberts-ish" photo. Here
> it is on my web page:
> http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/mayorscu
Definitely a trash talker. I'll bet it was the ESPN camera he was pointing to.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> I don't usually announce when a shot has made it into the PPG but this
> one makes me smile. And it's a very "un-Mark-Roberts-ish" photo. Here
> it is on my web p
I don't usually announce when a shot has made it into the PPG but this
one makes me smile. And it's a very "un-Mark-Roberts-ish" photo. Here
it is on my web page:
http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/mayorscup2009b/7d905308.html
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Hear..Hear, Boris! "Clearly" stated.
Jack
--- On Fri, 8/27/10, Boris Liberman wrote:
> From: Boris Liberman
> Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 11:16 PM
> On 8/26/2010 9:04 PM, Daniel J.
From: Boris Liberman
On 8/26/2010 9:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> I continue to be mystified by the official Pentax Photo Gallery and
> the process of reviewing submissions. I find that I am unable to
> predict what they will like and what they will promptly reject.
Oh, I find nothing to
From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
I continue to be mystified by the official Pentax Photo Gallery and
the process of reviewing submissions. I find that I am unable to
predict what they will like and what they will promptly reject.
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On 8/26/2010 9:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
I continue to be mystified by the official Pentax Photo Gallery and
the process of reviewing submissions. I find that I am unable to
predict what they will like and what they will promptly reject.
Oh, I find nothing to be mystified about, really,
Bruce Dayton wrote:
You have a good memory. I did resubmit a few. I found no rhyme or reason
to the decisions made. Images that had been accepted before were rejected
and images that were rejected before were accepted. Sometimes a rejected
image would be resubmitted and then accepted, etc.
ally expressed by some, you garnered by so doing.
>From time to time I checked your gallery in the hope you would be pleased at
>the rate of re-acceptance. Haven't done so for awhile.
>
>Jack
>
>--- On Thu, 8/26/10, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
>> From: Bruce Dayton
>&g
ce Dayton
> Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 9:47 PM
> I gave up a long time ago and pulled
> all my pictures off. Between the very inconsistent
> voting and the crazy interface it just wasn'
ully expressed by many when
>announcing their work's acceptance.
>
>Jack
>
>--- On Thu, 8/26/10, Brian Walters wrote:
>
>> From: Brian Walters
>> Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
>> Date: Thursday, Aug
ed by many when
announcing their work's acceptance.
Jack
--- On Thu, 8/26/10, Brian Walters wrote:
> From: Brian Walters
> Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 3:49 PM
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:25
On 27 August 2010 10:50, Brian Walters wrote:
> I notice that if you hover the mouse over those images, the
> photographer's name and image title appears. Is that a new feature? I
> hadn't noticed it before.
To the best of my recollection it's always done that.
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On Aug 26, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:14 -0400, "paul stenquist"
> wrote:
>>
>
>>>
>>> I participate for the challenge but I can't imagine that anyone would
>>> ever go there to view my images, or anyone else's for that matter. That
>>> interface is simpl
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:14 -0400, "paul stenquist"
wrote:
>
> >
> > I participate for the challenge but I can't imagine that anyone would
> > ever go there to view my images, or anyone else's for that matter. That
> > interface is simply bizzare. Waiting while the 12 generic images load
> t
>
On Aug 26, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:25 +1000, "Rob Studdert"
> wrote:
>> On 27 August 2010 04:04, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>>> In any event, one thing that bothers me is the way the size limitation
>>> is structured. The recommended image size is 600
Brian Walters wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:25 +1000, "Rob Studdert"
wrote:
I've long since stopped pondering what will make an 'acceptable' image
for the PPG. I just submit images that I like and shrug my shoulders
when they're rejected
I participate for the challenge but I can't imagine
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:25 +1000, "Rob Studdert"
wrote:
> On 27 August 2010 04:04, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
> > In any event, one thing that bothers me is the way the size limitation
> > is structured. The recommended image size is 600 pixels high. There
> > is no stated limit on width, howeve
On 27 August 2010 04:04, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> In any event, one thing that bothers me is the way the size limitation
> is structured. The recommended image size is 600 pixels high. There
> is no stated limit on width, however. That means the images in
> portrait orientation are much small
was shocked that it was accepted,
>> let alone so quickly. Just as a test, I then posted that image here
>> as a PESO, and it drew only ONE comment. I have learned here that if
>> a PESO gets few comments, that means most of the photographers on this
>> list considered it unwor
ost of the photographers on this
> list considered it unworthy or worse, mundane.
>
> I now have a modest little gallery of 17 images on the Pentax Photo Gallery:
>
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
> I don't fool myself into thinking that is a measure of
quot;No" voting parameters, the images are passed along for final disposition.
No doubt the voting composition is continually changing.
Jack
--- On Thu, 8/26/10, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> From: Daniel J. Matyola
> Subject: The Pentax Photo Gallery
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail L
mundane.
I now have a modest little gallery of 17 images on the Pentax Photo Gallery:
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
I don't fool myself into thinking that is a measure of my skill as an
artist, however, since a couple are cute little fawns that wandered
into my yard and v
William Robb wrote:
>From: "Mark Roberts"
>
>>>I think Pentax had a wonderful idea, but by refusing to put the ongoing
>>>resources required into the gallery, they have diluted the concept.
>>
>> I strongly suspect it isn't so much a matter of "refusing" as not
>> having the money. This ain't Cani
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From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: To those who submit to the Pentax Photo Gallery
>>I think Pentax had a wonderful idea, but by refusing to put the ongoing
>>resources required into the gallery, they have diluted the concept.
>
> I
Not recently.
I used to--regularly--when the voting started early this year. After
a month or so, it became sporadic.
It is hard work...
On Nov 19, 2007 8:13 PM, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just curious;
>
> Do you care to cast votes when you don't have any of your own images
> in for
Yes.
Kenneth Waller
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From: "AlunFoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: To those who submit to the Pentax Photo Gallery
> Just curious;
>
> Do you care to cast votes when you don't have any of your own image
I have not submitted anything except from the very beginning of the gallery.
Today i submitted several photos i'm quite fond of, and i'll see hwo they go.
I did go into the site and looked at photos to vote on.
The few pages i saw, i doubt mine will go to far.
Dave
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William Robb wrote:
>I think Pentax had a wonderful idea, but by refusing to put the ongoing
>resources required into the gallery, they have diluted the concept.
I strongly suspect it isn't so much a matter of "refusing" as not
having the money. This ain't Canikon we're dealing with.
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> From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I think Pentax had a wonderful idea, but by refusing to put the ongoing
> > resources required into the gallery, they have diluted the concept.
>
> May be it is not too late to fix it if they decide so...
Sadly, the USA is rapidly going brok
Godders, my reply's below.
> No. I mean that Pentax would do better, in my opinion, to have staff
> on board to jury the incoming submissions.
Yes, but in such a case of course it would mean that we will not get
to see the works submitted, only the work that was accepted. Which
isn't a bad thing
Bill,
> I can't speak for Godders, but my own opinion is that the judges and
> contributor bodies should be completely seperate entities.
I must admit that this was one of the main reasons that got me so
enthusiastic about it at first.
> > But really, how can you *make* or *force* these selected
On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:11 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Do you essentially mean that Pentax should have chosen very few select
> people from those who submitted to the gallery (say, only those who
> have
> reached the premier gallery) to be the judges?
No. I mean that Pentax would do better, in m
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From: "Boris Liberman"
Subject: Re: To those who submit to the Pentax Photo Gallery
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> > great many words omitted
>
> Do you essentially mean that Pentax should have chosen very few select
> people from those
Godfrey,
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> great many words omitted
Do you essentially mean that Pentax should have chosen very few select
people from those who submitted to the gallery (say, only those who have
reached the premier gallery) to be the judges?
But really, how can you *make* or *force*
> On Nov 19, 2007 1:13 PM, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Just curious;
>>
>> Do you care to cast votes when you don't have any of your own images
>> in for review?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jostein
Yes I cast votes. It is one of my favorite activities, say while waiting
for my whole program to re
2007/11/19, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >I've been only half-lurking lately, reading the archives sporadically,
> >so I honestly don't know if this applies to PDML. But it took me
> >less than 48 hours to come across examples at dpreview.
>
> Wow. Time to get some sleep!
> ;-)
Um
Ri
On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Godfrey, if you agree with the way the Gallery is set up and run, as I
> do, then participate. If not, don't. Just stand up for what you
> believe, like Scott Loveless and others have done, and opt out if you
> think it's ethically questionable.
AlunFoto wrote:
>2007/11/19, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> *I* wouldn't participate if I thought people were "gaming the system".
>> But if I did, I'd say the best way of reduce their impact would be to
>> increase the number of people who vote honestly.
>
>This is a bit of an aside, but im
2007/11/19, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> *I* wouldn't participate if I thought people were "gaming the system".
> But if I did, I'd say the best way of reduce their impact would be to
> increase the number of people who vote honestly.
This is a bit of an aside, but imagine a forum where man
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Godfrey, if you agree with the way the Gallery is set up and run, as I
do, then participate. If not, don't. Just stand up for what you
believe, like Scott Loveless and others have done, and opt out if you
think it's ethically questionable. They don't try to have it both
On Nov 19, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> When I was about 5 years old one of my favorite stories was "The
>>> Little
>>> Red Hen". She spends most of the story trying to get the other
>>> barnyard
>>>
Well said, Mark. I noticed that the Dec. Pop Photo included a Pentax
add wherein another gallery contributor was featured, Julie Quarry. I
first noticed the feature in the Nov issue.
I suspect it would be a rush for a lot of photographers to be so
featured. Exposure could be a benefit.
Jack
---
Sometimes I do. I have never managed to get to the end of the
submissions and the interface is driving me mad. Opening a photo to
the left, clicking on an absurd small button in the upper right,
opening another one in the bottom left etc. If Pentax is to lazy to
sort through the pictures they could
I try to vote pretty regularly - whether I have photos for review or
not.
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Monday, November 19, 2007, 4:13:43 AM, you wrote:
A> Just curious;
A> Do you care to cast votes when you don't have any of your own images
A> in for review?
A> Thanks,
A> Jostein
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>On Nov 19, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> When I was about 5 years old one of my favorite stories was "The
>> Little
>> Red Hen". She spends most of the story trying to get the other
>> barnyard
>> animals to help her make bread, but no one wants to help wi
I suspect that it is also intended to build brand
loyalty through participation, which would make the
voting a key part of the design.
Rick (who has yet to submit or vote on an image)
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the PPG is a site designed
> to at
On Nov 19, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> When I was about 5 years old one of my favorite stories was "The
> Little
> Red Hen". She spends most of the story trying to get the other
> barnyard
> animals to help her make bread, but no one wants to help with
> harvesting the wheat, grin
I never submit more than one photo at a time, and those submissions are
infrequent. For one, it's too much work, and I have other things to do. I do
feel somewhat obligated to vote. I don't like the process, but it's the only
one we have, and I figure I ought to contribute some time to making it
AlunFoto wrote:
>If it is so that only the submitting photographers vote, it's not at
>all surprising that it takes a fortnight to get the pics through the
>procedure.
>
>We know that 40 votes are required for each photo before it is
>presented to the jury (if I'm the only one to have received thi
Reminder:Well, based on your explanation (?), I certainly didn't get
your question.
FYI, I have voted on the same image a number of times. Also, the "40"
vote figure, while possibly true, is contrary to what I read awhile
back. The contention at that time was 20 votes per image unless or
until a se
Yes, please send the info from the gallery people.
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Monday, November 19, 2007, 8:04:29 AM, you wrote:
A> Jack Davis wrote:
>> I take the gist of your question to be one asking if those who have
>> submitted images to the gallery, but who have had none accepted, should
>> be allowed to
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> I don't believe that submitters to a gallery space should rank the
> work of other submitters. That should be the job of the gallery
> curators.
>
I couldn't agree more.
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>I don't believe that submitters to a gallery space should rank the
>work of other submitters. That should be the job of the gallery
>curators.
Good thought. But given the volume of submissions they're getting I
don't see how they could do that without a significant b
Jack Davis wrote:
> I take the gist of your question to be one asking if those who have
> submitted images to the gallery, but who have had none accepted, should
> be allowed to vote on other submissions. My answer is "yes", IF it's
> permitted for those whose work has been accepted.
That's not wh
I agree with you, Godfery, I feel the same.
In addition, when I see what sometimes get accepted and my pics which
are not I really wanna ... OK let's talk about something else ;)
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On Nov 19, 2007 9:13 PM, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just curious;
>
> Do you care to cast votes when you don't have any of your own images
> in for review?
If I've got stuff submitted I'll spend 5-10 minutes, while I'm logged
in checking the status of my shots, to have a look & do some
I take the gist of your question to be one asking if those who have
submitted images to the gallery, but who have had none accepted, should
be allowed to vote on other submissions. My answer is "yes", IF it's
permitted for those whose work has been accepted.
I would prefer, however, that all voting
I vote every now and then, probably not as often as I should.
Paul
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From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> AlunFoto wrote:
>
> >Just curious;
> >
> >Do you care to cast votes when you don't have any of your own images
> >in for review?
>
>
I don't do any voting at all. I feel uncomfortable with the rating
and ranking system.
I don't believe that submitters to a gallery space should rank the
work of other submitters. That should be the job of the gallery
curators.
Godfrey
On Nov 19, 2007, at 4:13 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
> Just
On Nov 19, 2007 10:54 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Boy, am i glad i submitted right at the first.
>
> :-)
>
You & me both :-
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Boy, am i glad i submitted right at the first.
:-)
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On 11/19/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> AlunFoto wrote:
>
> >Just curious;
> >
> >Do you care to cast votes when you don't have any of your own images
> >in for review?
>
> I do.
>
> I try to log in every couple of days or so
AlunFoto wrote:
>Just curious;
>
>Do you care to cast votes when you don't have any of your own images
>in for review?
I do.
I try to log in every couple of days or so just to judge some photos. I
always find it an eye-opener to see what people are submitting. And it
also puts my own rejected
Just curious;
Do you care to cast votes when you don't have any of your own images
in for review?
Thanks,
Jostein
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