--- K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, Sony brand should be really at work here.
I agree... In fact in most respects the Minolta 5D was
a better camera than the Alpha, but it did not have
the Sony name and also the 10 MP figure which attracts
customers (it was after all the first
share of the K100D could be
diluted by a longer time when it was not available.
Dario
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From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:00 AM
Subject: Turbulent age
Hi folks,
It looks like
On 23/8/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed:
Interesting to see what's going to happen toward Photokina when many new
models should come out. 350D upgrade is already leaking but does not
interest me. It appears to have some sort of (mild) dust reduction sys.
400D with self-cleaning
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, K.Takeshita wrote:
Hi folks,
It looks like the market in Japan is now tangling up.
http://bcnranking.jp/flash/09-9669.html
If you scroll down to the last graph, it shows the shift in market share.
NavyCanon
Yellow Nikon
Red Sony
Blue Pentax
I think they did put Minolta in Sony if it is DSLRs only.
2006/8/24, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, K.Takeshita wrote:
Hi folks,
It looks like the market in Japan is now tangling up.
http://bcnranking.jp/flash/09-9669.html
If you scroll down to
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
On Aug 24, 2006, at 6:13 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
Thanks Ken. It would have been nice to know where Minolta was. Is that
SLR-only?
...out of business?
What, already in that period? Wasn't Sony alpha a quick succession to
whatever the
On Aug 24, 2006, at 6:13 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
Thanks Ken. It would have been nice to know where Minolta was. Is that
SLR-only?
...out of business?
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On 24.08.2006, at 13:02 , Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
What, already in that period? Wasn't Sony alpha a quick succession to
whatever the Minolta model was? I am trying to deduce if Sony really
start from scratch and where they are now, compared to where Minolta
left it.
Well, essentaily Alpha
On 8/24/06 6:13 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Ken. It would have been nice to know where Minolta was. Is that
SLR-only?
Hi Kostas,
Other folks already answered this while I was sleeping ;-).
Cheers,
Ken
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On 8/24/06 7:58 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3. More females (new entry to DSLR) are buying Sony Alpha than males
BTW, my take is that the overwhelming sales spike right after the launch of
Alpha must have a lot to do with this. Alpha 100, considering the price
point (with kit
On 8/24/06 4:14 AM, Dario Bonazza, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the time interval considered for market shares in the table
published there?
Since the K100D is there, it shouldn't be a long time. However, it is also
possible that the K100D was only distributed during the latest part of
On 24/08/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/24/06 7:58 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Overwhelming
market domination by big 2 is not only unhealthy but deterimental to us all,
the consumers.
You'd think so but it doesn't seem to be doing the Canon consumers any harm?
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Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
On Aug 24, 2006, at 6:13 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
Thanks Ken. It would have been nice to know where Minolta was. Is that
SLR-only?
...out of business?
What, already in that period? Wasn't Sony alpha a quick
Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 24/08/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/24/06 7:58 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Overwhelming
market domination by big 2 is not only unhealthy but deterimental to us all,
the consumers.
You'd think so but it
On 8/24/06 8:33 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You'd think so but it doesn't seem to be doing the Canon consumers any harm?
Well, I do not know about them, but the healthier competitions keep those
big 2 (particularly Canon :-) honest for sure, which is good for Canon users
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From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
However, Sony brand
should be really at work here.
Interestuing to see how Sony will fare in the future. My understanding is
that the Sony brand is quite strong in Japan and in the US. However, in the
rest of the world Sony
Yes and even then there's brand recognition in a specific market.
I know trhat e.g. Pentax sells (or sold?) scanner at least in the US.
I dunno anything about Pentax and scanners so I'd probably not even
look at those.
Same goes for Sony: nearly all my Hi-fi equipment is Sony (10-15 years
old
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From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People are moving, and Canon looks oldfashioned.
I think that the brand perception with digital is moving away from the
structure it had for film cameras. Camera are now consumer electronic
products, an area where brand recognition
You'd think so but it doesn't seem to be doing the Canon
consumers any harm?
Or maybe it does. Right now there are two Canon users who
agree that they should have bought Nikon D200. They don't
want larger sensors, but they do want better viewfinders. A
third person did switch
On 8/24/06 9:13 AM, Pål Jensen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interestuing to see how Sony will fare in the future. My understanding is
that the Sony brand is quite strong in Japan and in the US. However, in the
rest of the world Sony is just another anonymous consumer electronics
manufacturer,
On Aug 24, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Pål Jensen wrote:
What the pros are using, and particular the photo
journalists, are less important now for brand recognition
I had two different sports photographers ask me on Tuesday what I knew
about the new Pentax bodies after seeing that I was shooting with
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From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: Turbulent age
Interestuing to see how Sony will fare in the future. My understanding
is
that the Sony brand is quite strong in Japan and in the US. However, in
the
rest of the world Sony is just another anonymous consumer
What the pros are using, and particular the photo
journalists, are less important now for brand recognition
I had two different sports photographers ask me on Tuesday
what I knew
about the new Pentax bodies after seeing that I was shooting with
Pentax.
The game was actually quite
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Bob W wrote:
What the pros are using, and particular the photo
journalists, are less important now for brand recognition
I had two different sports photographers ask me on Tuesday what I
knew about the new Pentax bodies after seeing that I was shooting
with Pentax.
On Aug 24, 2006, at 10:37 AM, Bob W wrote:
Photojournalists that I know or have spoken to are always interested
in who's using what and why. It's important for them to have an edge
on the competition, so if they see someone using something
unconventional they want to know what benefit it is
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:14:10 -0400
On 8/24/06 7:58 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3. More females (new entry to DSLR) are buying Sony Alpha than males
BTW, my take is that the overwhelming sales spike right
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Subject: RE: Turbulent age
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Bob W wrote:
What the pros are using, and particular the photo
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Sent: 24 August 2006 16:10
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Subject: Re: Turbulent age
On Aug 24, 2006, at 10:37 AM, Bob W wrote:
Photojournalists that I know or have spoken
My reply wasn't directly addressing it, just relating a recent anecdote.
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Date: Thu 2006 Aug 24 11:26 am
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From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd like to point out that these figures are only for Japan and do not
necessarially reflect the worldwide picture.
Sure, but the japanese have a tendency of pioneering world-wide trends when
it comes to photo equipment.
Pål
Not debating that. :-)
Tom C.
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numbered.
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug
Sure, but the japanese have a tendency of pioneering world-wide trends
when
it comes to photo equipment.
Pål
BTW, I failed to mention that I enjoyed many of your photos in the recent
gallery you displayed.
Tom C.
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Minolta is folded into Sony, so that's probably where it is.
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, K.Takeshita wrote:
Hi folks,
It looks like the market in Japan is now tangling up.
http://bcnranking.jp/flash/09-9669.html
If you scroll down to the last graph, it shows the
Den 24. aug. 2006 kl. 15.58 skrev Bob W:
You'd think so but it doesn't seem to be doing the Canon
consumers any harm?
Or maybe it does. Right now there are two Canon users who
agree that they should have bought Nikon D200. They don't
want larger sensors, but they do want better
On 24/8/06, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed:
On 8/24/06 7:58 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Overwhelming
market domination by big 2 is not only unhealthy but deterimental to
us all,
the consumers.
You'd think so but it doesn't seem to be doing the Canon consumers
With full K mount lens compatibility... sigh
Cotty wrote:
On 24/8/06, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed:
On 8/24/06 7:58 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Overwhelming
market domination by big 2 is not only unhealthy but deterimental to
us all,
the
I don't think they believed the list so much as their own marketing
division. The problem was more that Canon and Kodak were ready to
release or had released higher resolution full frame offerings for less
than Pentax could sell the MZ-D for and still have some hope of
recouping RD and
.
I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered.
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Turbulent age
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:02:31 -0400
On Aug 24
On Aug 24, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Cotty wrote:
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html
C'est la vie, uh?
Yeah, but did you ever see the pictures it took? It took balls, but
killing that thing off was probably the smartest move they made in a
decade.
-Aaron
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From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: Turbulent age
Interestuing
Of course, Pentax believed the list when everyone said no one would pay
that much for a camera. Strangely Canon, Nikon, and Kodak sold a lot of
cameras in that price range. Oh well.
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: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:02:31 -0400
On Aug 24, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Cotty wrote:
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html
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Subject: Re: Turbulent age
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:53:31 +0100
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:17:41 +0100, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you ask me they should have just waited around and stuck an APS-C
sensor
in it and called it good. They would still have produced a 6MP DSLR
Hi folks,
It looks like the market in Japan is now tangling up.
http://bcnranking.jp/flash/09-9669.html
If you scroll down to the last graph, it shows the shift in market share.
NavyCanon
Yellow Nikon
Red Sony
Blue Pentax
Purple Oly
Since the entry by Sony and Pentax's
sharply peaked and are in this snapshot declining?
Tom C.
I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered.
From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Turbulent age
On 8/23/06 7:18 PM, Tom C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure how you link the last graph to the 5D.
Oh, I was not linking 5D to this info. Toward the end of the post, I just
remember that there was an article about sales of K100D exceeded 5D, and 5D
was not as popular as initially thought
--- K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It looks like the market in Japan is now tangling
up.
http://bcnranking.jp/flash/09-9669.html
This is very interesting... Canon has obviously had a
VERY precipitous drop in sales.
That said, they are supposedly set to introduce a 10
MP Rebel at
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