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Just finished watching a bit on Real TV (Spike TV) about a guy who jumped off of the St Louis arch with a parachute and lived to run away from the police. His friend, the photographer was not so lucky and was arrested and convicted for not having a permit. Supposedly he received a nifty fine an

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Not having a permit for what? Did they impute the whole offence to him because he was engaged in a common enterprise or something? it seems rather bizarre to me. Quoting David Miers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Just finished watching a bit on Real TV (Spike TV) about a guy who jumped > off of th

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the usual legality is permit for a public display, suitably worded for the locale. Herb - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:03 PM Subject: Re: photographer arrested > Not having a permit for what?

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You think Real TV is real? David Miers wrote: Just finished watching a bit on Real TV (Spike TV) about a guy who jumped off of the St Louis arch with a parachute and lived to run away from the police. His friend, the photographer was not so lucky and was arrested and convicted for not having a

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eak simply walking about clicking away with our cameras. Dave > -Original Message- > From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: photographer arrested > > > the usual legality is per

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ginal Message- From: David Miers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 9:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: photographer arrested Bizarre may a good term for the whole thing, if it even really happened. IMHO anyone with any common sense wouldn't have admitted to an

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My money is on that the fuzz is just pissed off that the prankster escaped and are taking it out on the guy they managed to grab, hoping they can intimidate him into ratting out the jumper. ... Standard Operating Procedure. ---

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MAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 9:22 PM Subject: RE: photographer arrested > I assume Herb that by your comment about the permit you are referring to one > to put on a public display, not for photography itself aren't you? My > primar

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On 6/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Bizarre may a good term for the whole thing, if it even really happened. >IMHO anyone with any common sense wouldn't have admitted to any alliance or >relationship with the jumper, but rather just happened to be in the right >place at the right time. I tho

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, 2004 12:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: photographer arrested The St. Louis arch, I believe, is part of a national park. Commercial photography on NPS land requires a permit. tv

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Hey, who's side are you one here! LOL :) - Anyone loitering at the DZ is likely to be at least informed of this interesting if illegal activity, if not part of it, and if I were a cop, I'd nick 'em! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||

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something or be proved to have intent to sell something for it to be commercial in my mind. Dave -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 12:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: photographer arrested The St. Louis arch, I believe, is part of a

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Backwards in time to the "guilty until proven innocent!" -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: photographer arrested the NPS service has, after many years, decided that it

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tom: I seem to recall a story of some national park where you basically couldn't do any shooting with a "nice" camera without a permit. The hearsay was basically that it was defined as commercial photography if you were using a "professional" camera. I've been to several pop concerts lately where

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ark Rangers on the legality of professional photography in National Parks. Herb - Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 12:49 PM Subject: RE: photographer arrested > I seem to recall a story of s

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uary 07, 2004 12:49 PM Subject: RE: photographer arrested > The first question I'm always asked down at the monuments is "Is that a > professional camera?" The next question is "Do you have a permit?"

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: photographer arrested > > i have been told that in DC it is easy to get a permit. you > just go to some place in the morning and pay a nominal fee > and you had a permit for the day. > > Herb > - Original Message - > From: "

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Maybe it's just my mood today but... Saturday, February 7, 2004, :49:59 AM, you wrote: t> The easy answer is if there's an exchange of money, but other situations may t> warrant it as well. >> Just because your >> equipment looks professional? t> The first question I'm always asked down at t

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Herb Chong: i have been told that in DC it is easy to get a permit. you just go to some place in the morning and pay a nominal fee and you had a permit for the day. What are these permits for, really? To me it sounds very ironic that you need a permit for photography in public places in "the land

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> -Original Message- > From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > t> The first question I'm always asked down at the monuments > is "Is that > t> a professional camera?" The next question is "Do you have > a permit?" > > > No, sir, it is not a professional camera, see, it is

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- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Not having a permit for what? Did they impute the whole offence to him because > he was engaged in a common enterprise or something? it seems rather bizarre to > me. Hmm... You mean like conspiring to illegal parachuting? I would say

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TV , on National Parks & Cameras, wrote: > The hearsay was basically that it was defined as commercial > photography if you were using a "professional" camera. HAR! ... just point to the Pentax on the prism, then! *everyone* knows that only Canon & Nikon are professional

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On 7/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Hey, who's side are you one here! LOL :) >- >Anyone loitering at the DZ is likely to be >at least informed of this interesting if illegal activity, if not part of >it, and if I were a cop, I'd nick 'em! Yeah but if I were a cop I'd

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Anders Hultman wrote: > To me it sounds very ironic that you need a permit for photography > in public places in "the land of the free." another HAR! is in order here . " ... freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose" Bill ---

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Hi, >>i have been told that in DC it is easy to get a permit. you just go to some >>place in the morning and pay a nominal fee and you had a permit for the day. > What are these permits for, really? To me it sounds very ironic that > you need a permit for photography in public places in "the la

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- Original Message - From: "graywolf" Subject: Re: photographer arrested > Commercial photography which rightly should require a permit is easy to id. > > First clue, there is an equipment van. Second clue, there are 2 to 30 people > involved. Third clue is hu

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I work in an ad agency. We sometimes shoot in public parks. We might have three grip trucks, a camera truck, and a crew of 30 or so. It kind of spoils the park for everyone else. That's why you have to have a permit to shoot commercial photography in a public park. (For a big shoot like that, w

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"freedom" is open to interpretation Norm Anders Hultman wrote: Herb Chong: i have been told that in DC it is easy to get a permit. you just go to some place in the morning and pay a nominal fee and you had a permit for the day. What are these permits for, really? To me it sounds very ironic t

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hsonian, though. - Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:55 PM Subject: Re: photographer arrested > Hi, > > > >>i have been told that in DC it is easy to get a permit. you jus

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> > -Original Message- > > From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > t> The first question I'm always asked down at the monuments > > is "Is that > > t> a professional camera?" The next question is "Do you have > > a permit?" > > > > > > No, sir, it is not a professio

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Hi, > Already done in the case of the National Trust. No photography at all > allowed inside Trust buildings, the same thing here in the National Maritime Museum - a complete ban on photography - but no reasons given. I've been stopped several times, and sometimes just 'reminded' even though I

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Most of these types of museum rules were intended to ban flash. Which could possibly damage something (think flashbulbs here), or annoy other visitors. It is another one of those rules that has been expanded unthinkingly. Of course, at museum's that want to sell you their post cards and books, i

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From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: RE: photographer arrested > > -Original Message- > > From: Treena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > This must have been since 9/11 becaus

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That last sentence was a joke. Sort of. ;) - Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:09 PM Subject: RE: photographer arrested > > > I > > probably should have been arrested

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Get your children babysitted and taken to an educational museum at the same time, not to mention a lesson in observing photo technique.heh heh.only $2/hr. -- The only place I was told to give up my cameras was at the Corcoran (private) gallery. They wouldn't let me

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> > > it was found out that there is nothing illegal about taking a > > picture of a government building. It's the jitters of 9/11 > > that is clouding everything. > > Yep, that's why I got stopped and questioned by the cops one day while > taking pictures of the UN (with a shortish lens of co

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Cotty wrote: > As far as still photography goes, I don't usually shoot (for > pleasure) in places that might be contentious. I don't do > buildings etc. Shopping precincts (malls) are a specialty for > shit-hot security guards ready to pounce etc etc over here > also. Photography outdoors is

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On 7/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> As far as still photography goes, I don't usually shoot (for >> pleasure) in places that might be contentious. > >Hehe...you'd be surprised at what places might be contentious. At least >this woman was: >http://www.staceygeorge.com/blog/archives/2003/12

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On 8/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >London and how many cameras wave about there all year round - including >MI5 etc etc), GCHQ in Cheltenham >, the SAS hq based near Hereford specfor/SAS.htm>, and most RAF bases,

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> > BTW, NPS permits are free, generally. > I find it irritating that I may not be free to enjoy my hobby on public land but decided that the thing to do is just make sure I have a permit before I go--problem solved. I checked to NPS website to see what the requirements, costs and procedures are

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Bob W wrote: Nevertheless, Erwitt-like I managed to sneak this one when I was there a couple of years ago: http://www.web-options.com/Water.jpg The Tate Modern too - I did manage to get one shot a couple of weeks ago before they complained: http://www.elvum.net/gallery/tate_modern/tate5 They let

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Hi, > In the case of the free museums and galleries, they wouldn't *really* > mind losing the small fraction of visitors who find their photography > policy annoying, and they probably make useful money from the extra > postcard sales, so it's not really surprising. but they're not all like tha

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On 8/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Bob W wrote: >> Nevertheless, Erwitt-like I managed to sneak this one when I was there >> a couple of years ago: >> http://www.web-options.com/Water.jpg > >The Tate Modern too - I did manage to get one shot a couple of weeks ago >before they complained: >

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- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: photographer arrested > > BTW Steve, did I mention that you are clinically insane?? > > <http://www.elvum.net/ironing/index.php> I heard on the radio the other day (CBC) an interview with a fellow that h

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Perhaps they see Pentax and think its a toy camera. Jim A. > From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 11:34:44 -0500 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: photographer arrested > Resent-From:

Photographer arrested at mall

Ouch... http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200912090794 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

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Igor Roshchin wrote: Ouch... http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200912090794 wow thats creepy ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

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On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > Ouch... > > http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200912090794 Like many on this list, and like the photog in the article, I take my camera everywhere, including the mall (which thankfully I don't go to very often). Sounds like an over-zealous of

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- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Photographer arrested at mall One of the many things that pisses me off about this is that those with "real" cameras aren't what security and cops should concern themselves with - it's cellph

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care if the reasons are wrong :) On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:35 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" > Subject: Re: Photographer arrested at mall > > >> >> One of the many things that pisses me off about this is tha

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On a related subject: "Don't talk to ... " no, it is not just a stranger: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8167533318153586646&hl=en# I've seen this video earlier, it might have even been mentioned here, on PDML, - in that case I apologize for the repetition. I was reminded of it in relati

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frank theriault wrote: > One of the many things that pisses me off about this is that those > with "real" cameras aren't what security and cops should concern > themselves with - it's cellphone cameras that they ought to worry > about. They're everywhere, and I see people using them all the time

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Igor Roshchin wrote: Ouch... http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200912090794 Ah yes, he's not really under arrest for taking photographs, he's under arrest for resisting arrest. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from t

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ssage - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Photographer arrested at mall One of the many things that pisses me off about this is that those with "real" cameras aren't what security and cops should concern themselves with - it's cellphone cameras that they ought

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From: Igor Roshchin Ouch... http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200912090794 SUE THE BASTARDS! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

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From: frank theriault n Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > Ouch... > > http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200912090794 Like many on this list, and like the photog in the article, I take my camera everywhere, including the mall (which thankfully I don't go to very often). Sound

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Igor Roshchin wrote: Ouch... http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200912090794 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Hmm... I was stopped with a

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Drew wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: Ouch... http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200912090794 Hmm... I was stopped with a colleague by a Mall Cop in a mall in Austin TX, we had set out with cameras to wander round downtown but decided to go to a mall to find a watch repair shop to get a battery for

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From: Keith Whaley Drew wrote: > Igor Roshchin wrote: >> Ouch... >> >> http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200912090794 > Hmm... I was stopped with a colleague by a Mall Cop in a mall in Austin > TX, we had set out with cameras to wander round downtown but decided to > go to a mall to find a wa

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On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:37:36PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote: > > It's mostly a power trip. "I'm a cop, and you have to do what I tell > you." If you refuse to obey you're resisting arrest. Yep. And that's what you can get charged with, even if you had done nothing to warrant being arrested in

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!  Join my team!  http://www.walknowforautism.org/stlouis/blubiconsbuddies  http://stampmine.blogspot.com/http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/  --- On Wed, 12/16/09, John Sessoms wrote: > From: John Sessoms > Subject: Re: Photographer arrested at mall > To: pdml@pdml.net > Dat

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Sandra Hermann wrote: > I was taking picture of Sami on a Mall carousel around town and the security > guard told me I needed to get out of there they had called the police.  He > gave me enough warning I could get away Mom stayed with Sami while I walked > awa

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On 12/16/2009 8:24 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Ouch... http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200912090794 In Israel, in principle, it is not allowed to take pictures in the malls. Bigger ones will have their security kindly ask you not to take pictures. Smaller ones don't really care. But taking a pic

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t.com/http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/  --- On Wed, 12/16/09, frank theriault wrote: > From: frank theriault > Subject: Re: Photographer arrested at mall > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:33 PM > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:05 AM, > Sandr

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Sandra Hermann wrote: > The mall cop said because other children were on the Carousel it was illegal. > I didn't believe him, but didn't wanna take a chance either. >  Help me support Autism research!  Join my > team!  http://www.walknowforautism.org/stlouis/blu

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From: frank theriault On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Sandra Hermann wrote: I was taking picture of Sami on a Mall carousel around town and the security guard told me I needed to get out of there they had called the police. ?He gave me enough warning I could get away Mom stayed with Sami whil

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From: Sandra Hermann The mall cop said because other children were on the Carousel it was illegal. I didn't believe him, but didn't wanna take a chance either. The mall cop is, as my grandmother was wont to say, "full of sawdust and slough water." I won't say what I think he's full of. It's

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:33 PM, John Sessoms wrote: It's my god given right to be an asshole > for the First Amendment. MARK!! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml

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louis/blubiconsbuddies  http://stampmine.blogspot.com/http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/  --- On Thu, 12/17/09, John Sessoms wrote: > From: John Sessoms > Subject: Re: Photographer arrested at mall > To: pdml@pdml.net > Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 11:33 AM > From: Sandra Hermann &

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On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:17 AM, frank theriault wrote: > I don't blame you for leaving and not confronting the Mall Cop. The > downside of being arrested (even if no charges are laid) kind of > sucks. And, as we've heard earlier in this thread (and in other > stories), even if the "real" police rea

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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 08:01:48PM +1300, David Mann wrote: > On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:17 AM, frank theriault wrote: > > > I don't blame you for leaving and not confronting the Mall Cop. The > > downside of being arrested (even if no charges are laid) kind of > > sucks. And, as we've heard earlier

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On 12/18/2009 2:01 AM, David Mann wrote: On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:17 AM, frank theriault wrote: I don't blame you for leaving and not confronting the Mall Cop. The downside of being arrested (even if no charges are laid) kind of sucks. And, as we've heard earlier in this thread (and in other st

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De Lurking for a moment. Perhaps a good way to stop this kind of petty-foggery is a nice little Federal Civil Rights Lawsuit. Requesting a nice little pile of that Greenback Ointment we all enjoy putting on our open wounds. There are, come to think of it, a group of mad-dog trial attorneys

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Just remember Galloway, we know what your IP address is. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Morris Galloway wrote: > De Lurking for a moment. > > Perhaps a good way to stop this kind of petty-foggery  is a nice little > Federal Civil Rights Lawsuit.  Requesting a nice little pile of that > Greenbac

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From: David Mann On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:17 AM, frank theriault wrote: I don't blame you for leaving and not confronting the Mall Cop. The downside of being arrested (even if no charges are laid) kind of sucks. And, as we've heard earlier in this thread (and in other stories), even if the "real"

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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:55 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > When they're just bullying and you refuse to be bullied, they charge you > with "obstructing justice", "interfering with an officer" or "assaulting an > officer", since they weren't actually "arresting" you. > > Until they did. Right. And

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2009/12/19 frank theriault : > > > Right. > > And ~then~ they charge you with resist arrest... > > cheers, > frank > > I would have thought the cop had to actually be arresting you before you were able to resist arrest. If he simply lays hands on you or even takes hold of you it's still not ar

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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Anthony Farr wrote: > I would have thought the cop had to actually be arresting you before > you were able to resist arrest.  If he simply lays hands on you or > even takes hold of you it's still not arrest if the cop hasn't > pronounced it or read any rights. Y

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:33:14AM -0500, frank theriault scripsit: > It's not against the law to take photos in a mall. The degree of pedeophile paranoia is such that there have been a few successful prosecutions of parents for having completely innocuous naked or semi-naked pictures of their inf

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Cops are people just like you and me. The difference is that we go through life pretty much living the rules of common sense, with a little bit of knowledge about the laws in our area of the world. Cops are taught the laws they are expected to enforce, and all the tricks their teachers, bud

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Well said, G. On Dec 18, 2009, at 18:23 , Graydon wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:33:14AM -0500, frank theriault scripsit: It's not against the law to take photos in a mall. The degree of pedeophile paranoia is such that there have been a few successful prosecutions of parents for having

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From: Anthony Farr Right. And ~then~ they charge you with resist arrest... cheers, frank I would have thought the cop had to actually be arresting you before you were able to resist arrest. If he simply lays hands on you or even takes hold of you it's still not arrest if the cop hasn

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From: Graydon On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:33:14AM -0500, frank theriault scripsit: > It's not against the law to take photos in a mall. The degree of pedeophile paranoia is such that there have been a few successful prosecutions of parents for having completely innocuous naked or semi-naked pic

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On 2009-12-18 20:10, Anthony Farr wrote: I would have thought the cop had to actually be arresting you before you were able to resist arrest. Before they arrest you, it's "obstructing justice" or "interfering with a duly appointed official in the legal and legitimate pursuit of his lawful dut

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On 2009-12-18 20:46, frank theriault wrote: That being said a small majority [...] ^^^ Typo or subversive/cynical commentary!? :-) Did the NSA record your IP address on that one? :-> -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://

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On 2009-12-18 23:04, John Sessoms wrote: [...] be prepared to fight dirty. There's no such thing. You can fight to win, or you can decide not to. Those are the only choices. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml

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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > On 2009-12-18 20:46, frank theriault wrote: > >> That being said a small majority [...] > >                          ^^^ > > Typo or subversive/cynical commentary!? :-)  Did the NSA record your IP > address on that one? :-> That was a typo.

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I think this whole thread shows that the world is a different place it was just 10 or 15 years ago. For my part, when I'm not working (and if I'm carrying a stills camera) I would not go into a shopping mall with the intention of taking photographs - unless (let's say) I was maybe doing project or

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On 19/12/09, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >What you must remember is >that shopping malls - although some say are 'public spaces' - are in >fact privately owned and operated and guess what - the owners make the >rules. If they say no photography of any kind, you're out of luck. I will just

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Having just reread the entire thread, instead of reiterating opinion (most absolutely anything I'd have to say has been said either in this thread or another either by others or by myself) I want to leave it at saying how sad I think it is that we've taken our society (yes it was ourselves, we have

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On 19/12/2009, Cotty wrote: > Single males carrying cameras with long lenses pointing at children will > raise concerns anywhere, especially in malls. What you must remember is > that shopping malls - although some say are 'public spaces' - are in > fact privately owned and operated and guess wha

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>In Oz unless otherwise sing posted all publicly accessible places are >photo-zones I think we're on the same hymn sheet. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

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On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Cotty wrote: > Saturday morning, cold and bright outside, coffee sinking in, just a few > thoughts. The weather is the same here. I'm going to take a walk with my camera, have a coffee at my favorite cafe, do some Christmas shopping and shoot some pictures. ;-)

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Cool and light snow in Chicago, but the East Coast is getting hit with a big storm. Chicago's football team had a mechanical delay on their flight to Baltimore yesterday. The airport closed them out. They are going to try again today for Sunday's game. Here's a shot from this morning's outing...

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I have to add that most policeman are great people and doing things that at times are scary as hell. They are well trained and will give you the shirt off their backs if the circumstances call for it. Mall cops are not policemen, although they could be wannabes. The really scary thing is that

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

On 19/12/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: >The weather is the same here. I'm going to take a walk with my >camera, have a coffee at my favorite cafe, do some Christmas shopping >and shoot some pictures. > >;-) Hope you had a good morning out mate. We're due snow tonight so am say

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st" Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Photographer arrested at mall Cool and light snow in Chicago, but the East Coast is getting hit with a big storm. Chicago's football team had a mechanical delay on their flight to Baltimore yesterday. The airport closed them out.

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On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > The Weather channel last nite had a piece on Boone, N.C. - close to GFM - > stating it had gotten somethimg like a foot of snow & was expecting more. Hope Greywolf is all battened down... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."

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frank theriault wrote: >On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >> The Weather channel last nite had a piece on Boone, N.C. - close to GFM - >> stating it had gotten somethimg like a foot of snow & was expecting more. > >Hope Greywolf is all battened down... My friends in NC tell me t

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