Hi Johan,
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Johan Brichau wrote:
> Since this discussion often returns on this mailinglist, here is a good
> article.
>
> It focuses on Haskell, but a lot of arguments apply to Smalltalk as well.
>
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2014/04/29/what-do-you-thin
Eliot,
> if possible, next time provide the quora link not the forbes one. forbes is
> advertising at me :-(
OK, but I am not an active Quora user... and it's asking me for a lot of things
before I can actually read that article :-/
Now that I have wrestled through it, the next time I will do
On 04/28/2014 11:12 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
… more a Smalltalk one using Pharo:
MountainWest RubyConf 2014
Noel Rappin: "But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk”
Smalltalk has mystique. We talk about it more than we use it. It seems like it
should be so similar to Ruby. It has similar Object-
Hi Clément,
There is not a stable version available, in fact Roassal3D requires the
bleeding edge version of NBOpenGL to work, which is producing your error.
Try loading Roassal3D using the following Gofer script, which is available
in the Roassal3D smalltalk hub
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsal
2014-04-30 15:07 GMT-03:00 Jimmie Houchin :
> Here is an unfortunate quote from that thread.
>
> """
> emaringolo 1 point an hour ago
> Pharo is aimed to do serious/business development, and it's been reshaping
> itself since its conception (several years ago when it forked from Squeak).
> It doesn
But that is the point. This kind of marketing is false. It denies who we
are.
As soon as they look at Pharo. Learn to use and then learn that Pharo is
a Smalltalk and that we are liars.
Did keeping silent about Pharo help in the Reddit thread. No.
Did the current marketing explain well what P
he/she lost me at "The benefit of more libraries is real but marginal"
thats a a big nope from me.
If there is one lesson we can learn from Java is that more libraries is
EVERYTHING.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Johan Brichau wrote:
> Eliot,
>
> > if possible, next time provide the quora
Some days a I really would love not to love smalltalk...
> On 30 Apr 2014, at 20:52, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
>
> But that is the point. This kind of marketing is false. It denies who we are.
>
> As soon as they look at Pharo. Learn to use and then learn that Pharo is a
> Smalltalk and that we ar
On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:52 PM, kilon alios wrote:
> he/she lost me at "The benefit of more libraries is real but marginal"
>
> thats a a big nope from me.
>
> If there is one lesson we can learn from Java is that more libraries is
> EVERYTHING.
not to mention Javascript and the Nodiverse
Is that cause or consequence of popularity?
Johan
> On 30 Apr 2014, at 20:58, Sebastian Sastre
> wrote:
>
>
>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:52 PM, kilon alios wrote:
>>
>> he/she lost me at "The benefit of more libraries is real but marginal"
>>
>> thats a a big nope from me.
>>
>> If there is
On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Johan Brichau wrote:
> Is that cause or consequence of popularity?
>
> Johan
Past the tipping point it starts to feel as consequence.
People gets attracted to what people pays attention to.
No attention, no business
http://sebastianconcept.com/brandIt/no-attentio
Ronnie,
The point of the Configuration Browser is to load #stable configurations, if
those do not exist or cannot be produced, than the configuration should no be
there I think. The goal of the Configuration Browser is to make it super easy
for users to load something with just one click.
I tr
On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> We choose not to *market* Pharo as a Smalltalk, because each time someone
> outside our small world hear about Smalltalk believes that is a long time
> dead language
Then it’s a failed decision as Reddit reactions proves.
What’s better
The point I take home from the article is that every popular language became
popular for a reason. None of those reasons where good design or the presence
of libraries.
Javascript because it's the only language that runs in a browser.
Java and C# because they have corporate backings.
Ruby becaus
For me at least , the way I see it is that each coder is special. We all
can find common ground, but we can all find differences. As a coder you
want a library to solve the specific problem you had at this point, it
maybe it a small one or a big one. Having more libraries ensures that you
will be m
On 30 April 2014 19:33, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote:
> 2014-04-30 15:07 GMT-03:00 Jimmie Houchin :
> > Here is an unfortunate quote from that thread.
> >
> > """
> > emaringolo 1 point an hour ago
> > Pharo is aimed to do serious/business development, and it's been
> reshaping
> > itself since its
"Javascript because it's the only language that runs in a browser"
Eh nope
Every language out there runs in the Browser. Actually you will find more
than one implementation for each language. Yes they compile to Javascript
but then that does not mean anything. Every language on Desktop compiles t
> Yet it worked like a charm because developers loved the fact that they had in
> their hand a huge monolithic platform that could satisfy their wildest dream
> as far as library support went through. And on top that platform was cross
> platform.
Sounds like Smalltalk :-)
Don't get me wrong
Not exactly pharo-dev related but people related and Pharo is done by people
and this might contribute to understand the dynamics of people:
Nicholas Christakis: The Sociological Science Behind Social Networks and Social
Influence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wadBvDPeE4E
> On 30 Apr 2014, at 21:51, kilon alios wrote:
>
> Every language out there runs in the Browser
You may know this:
https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript
Johan
We should not forget the "Java is dead" craze over a decade ago. It was the
time where dynamic language like python and ruby were gaining a lot of
traction but here we are a decade later and Java is alive and kicking.
I seriously doubt that there are a lot of people out there that take
"Smalltalk
Thank you guys,
I will try to find something that does not break Phratch.
Cheers,
Jannik
2014-04-30 19:43 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe :
> I thought that we did that already:
>
> OSEnvironment class>>#isAvailable
> NativeBoost class>>#isAvailable
> PlatformIndependentEnvironment
>
> No ?
sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote
> Then it’s a failed decision as Reddit reactions proves.
I think that's a bit premature. The reaction on Reddit was because there was
no mention on the Pharo site/release-notice of Smalltalk *anywhere*. There
was no path to take people from the sound bite to the
All of the arguments why Pharo is Smalltalk are correct.
Let me tell you a story...
My friends and I are planning a trip to Spain. I am explaining that in
Spanish, "yo" - which means "hi" in English slang - means "l". They are
arguing passionately that "yo" means "hi" and presenting evidence upon
I am sorry but again a big NO from me.
I am interested in two field, Graphics (2D and 3D) and music/audio
synthesis. Both of these fields are dominated by C/C++.
You could say is because of the fact that C/C++ is heavily optimised and of
course I would agree but its not that of a big reason becau
Excellent work!
Thank you: Nico, Esteban, Marcus!
Doru
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> yeah, and don’t forget Nico’s effort :)
> I put him real pressure on him last 3 weeks, and he took it without
> complain… and he did a great work :)
>
> Esteban
>
> On 30 Apr 2014
I understand. My apologies for contributing to one of those days.
For me that day was while I was reading this thread and watching Doru
and Sean arguing with Eliot. It almost made me want to go back to
Squeak. Not that I am saying there is anything wrong with Squeak.
They were firmly arguing t
I was reading this thread and watching... Sean arguing... that Pharo is NOT
Smalltalk
No As I and Esteban (at least, maybe others) have repeated, *we are
NOT saying that Pharo is not Smalltalk*.
Either we're not explaining ourselves well or (more likely IMHO) everyone is
so emotional over
Holy smoley!
117 emails since I checked a few hours ago? Maybe we should rename Pharo
“Prolix”?
:-)
on
Here's my musings about how we integrate the two motives - to acknowledge our
heritage /and/ break out of our pigeon hole. My key point here is to
gradually introduce the Smalltalk part after people are deep enough to have
gotten excited about the ideas without dismissing them because of cultural
b
onierstrasz wrote
> 117 emails since I checked a few hours ago?
110 of those were mine, sorry :-P
Signing off for today...
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Why not just
'Pharo is a Smalltalk for the 21st century. What we have now C#, Java and the
like will try to „invent" during the next thirty years!
If you want the future now come and take a closer look...'
Andreas
Personally I am very interested to see how developers see Pharo, because
the way they see it is also the future of Pharo the directions it is going.
So while some may find these type of discussion derailing its very
important for the direction of Pharo.
Even though its very important to add code t
On rasp there a re no native boost and no OSProcess for now but OSProcess seems
work well on my own Jenkins job.
After few test I will send a pull request.
Here is a OSProcess added version of the rasp VM
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/ARM-Experimentation/job/RaspberryPi-Cross-Compila
Hi Sven,
About the configuration browser, I don't know why Roassal 3D it is there,
because currently is highly unstable and it is going to keep being for a
while. We are still missing lot of features and we need to fix lot of bugs.
As for the black boxes, that is a shader issue which I could repro
We have that list too:
Page 3 of
http://www.pharo-project.org/download/pictures/be/j32hajf3kjdbsebqo0a9zc5tk8ekxt/pharovision.pdf
Or this version:
http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2012-May/004059.html
Now that I see this list again, I feel that it should be part of
On 30 Apr 2014, at 23:48, Ronie Salgado wrote:
> Hi Sven,
>
> About the configuration browser, I don't know why Roassal 3D it is there,
> because currently is highly unstable and it is going to keep being for a
> while. We are still missing lot of features and we need to fix lot of bugs.
I s
yeap definitely sounds a like a good idea to me :)
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> We have that list too:
>
> Page 3 of
> http://www.pharo-project.org/download/pictures/be/j32hajf3kjdbsebqo0a9zc5tk8ekxt/pharovision.pdf
>
> Or this version:
>
>
> http://lists.phar
2014-04-30 20:03 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe :
> I just tried on Mac OS X and that worked fine, you have to make sure that
> you use the latest VM I guess. I believe the required libraries come with
> the VM. But I am an inexperienced user on this area.
>
> On 30 Apr 2014, at 19:53, volk...@ni
Hi,
I see many usage of #should: in SciSmalltalk tests that could simply be
turned into #assert: or eventually #assert:equals:
Why wanting to use a block?
Other than #should:raise: and #shouldnt:raise:, I don't really see the
point of #should: alone anyway...
IMO should: should be deprecated, les
Some not so different opinion:
http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/sunit-and-shouldshouldnt-vs-assertdeny/
2014-05-01 0:52 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Cellier <
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
> I see many usage of #should: in SciSmalltalk tests that could simply be
> turned into #ass
2014-04-30 11:32 GMT-07:00 Ronie Salgado :
> Hi Clément,
>
> There is not a stable version available, in fact Roassal3D requires the
> bleeding edge version of NBOpenGL to work, which is producing your error.
> Try loading Roassal3D using the following Gofer script, which is available
> in the Roa
Let me reply to this as it is my quote you are quoting.
On 04/30/2014 03:34 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
I was reading this thread and watching... Sean arguing... that Pharo is NOT
Smalltalk
No As I and Esteban (at least, maybe others) have repeated, *we are
NOT saying that Pharo is not
Hi Volkert,
You need to install the true type font. Unfortunately, Pharo3 does not do it
for you. I guess this will be fixed in the next release of Pharo.
I have made a very short video on how to install Roassal2 from scratch:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/TMP/InstallingTrueTypeFo
You don't draw a shape with an array of points, unless you are using a
voxel engine or a volumetric renderer. In 3D graphics you usually are
drawing surfaces composed of triangles. There's R3MeshBuilder and
R3MeshShape for drawing generic meshes. I believe there examples are a bit
hidden. For each
Yes Ronie, we need a stable version :-)
It is important to always expose what we have, else it get forgotten too
easily...
Alexandre
On Apr 30, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Ronie Salgado wrote:
> Hi Sven,
>
> About the configuration browser, I don't know why Roassal 3D it is there,
> because currently
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 07:15:30AM -0700, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
>
> Same goes with Unix interop. REPL is easy, but is it documented and
> marketed? What would it take to easily pipe output of other programs to
> Pharo? Maybe be able to sourceCodeString exportAsUnixCommand:
> '/usr/bin/my_cool_co
OK, I didn't know it was that complex, I've always used 2D or 3D isometric
until now.
So I can't do it it would take me too much time :-(
I can't wait to see your fractal terrain demo. Keep us in touch.
2014-04-30 18:37 GMT-07:00 Ronie Salgado :
> You don't draw a shape with an array of points
I remember that the VM+ plugin were fixed.
But these changes seems not present in Pharo3-win (installer zip).
After loading PharoSound from ConfigurationBrowser, I execute this line:
SoundPlayer boinkScale
On MacOS it works, not on Windows
Cheers
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Hi all,
I'd like to know what is the status of Pharo on the RPi? It would be to
use it with serial port communications and seaside development.
Thanks,
Thierry
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Phone/Fax:
SuffixConditionals adds #if: and #unless methods to BlockClosure. Currently in
VisualWorks but can be ported to other Smalltalks (like Pharo) as well.
Read here:
http://forum.world.st/ANN-SuffixConditionals-td4755785.html
Code is on Cincom Public Repo and snaphots on
https://github.com/randycou
Hi,
Following the Fuel test FLUserGuidesTest>>#testGZip I discovered that I can
serialize and materialize to and from GZip archives. Cool!
I tried with some small test object and it worked like a charm. When I tried
with a large object…
Serialization
- It does not work, the image instantly cra
I have a Phratch that begin to work on RPi (
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick-RPi/
).
So, you can probably use Pharo 3
Now I have problems with FileSystem, I will ask in another thread.
Jannik
2014-04-30 11:01 GMT+02:00 Goubier Thierry :
> Hi all,
>
> I'
Hi all,
I have an error on Pharo 3, with RPi.
The error is UnixResolver>>Can't find the request origin
To reproduce it, just run this line:
---
FileLocator home exists
Thank you for your help.
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Enseignant-chercheur
http://www.jannik-laval.eu
http://
Le 30/04/2014 11:58, jannik laval a écrit :
I have a Phratch that begin to work on RPi
(https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick-RPi/).
So, you can probably use Pharo 3
Thanks.
I'll start moving the infrastructure there then.
Thierry
Now I have problems wit
The status of Rpi.
The VM work as a StackVM linux one,
Except for:
- Sound (recent bug will be fixed soon),
- NativeBoost (arm),
- FFI (recent change from Doug will be here soon)
and OsProcess (I just don not try it yet but I didn't look at it).
I thi
This bug turn around since the first release of Rpi VM,
It can be solve completely in the image side by just patching it. Until we have
a better solution.
We used in the 3.0 image NativeBoost to get all the env variable.
So when you ask origin it try NativeBoost, that do not work. And UnixResolv
Branch: refs/tags/30846
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Branch: refs/heads/3.0
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Commit: 716f48dcd77dce7178bf76b381e5a75e192c8aec
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/716f48dcd77dce7178bf76b381e5a75e192c8aec
Author: Jenkins Build Server
Date: 2014-04-30 (Wed, 30 Apr 2014
Thanks JB! This is really great!
Thierry
Le 30/04/2014 13:18, Jean Baptiste Arnaud a écrit :
The status of Rpi.
The VM work as a StackVM linux one,
Except for:
- Sound (recent bug will be fixed soon),
- NativeBoost (arm),
- FFI (recent change from Doug will be here soon)
and OsProcess (I just d
philippeback wrote
> I'd like to see the Pen class coming back in the main image.
Answered at
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22737674/wheres-the-pen-class-in-pharo
Gofer it
squeaksource: 'PharoNonCorePackages';
package: 'BitBltPen';
load.
Then you can "Display restoreAfter: [Pen
Torsten Bergmann wrote
> SuffixConditionals adds #if: and #unless methods to BlockClosure.
> Currently in VisualWorks but can be ported to other Smalltalks (like
> Pharo) as well.
Good idea! It is MIT and would be a great bridge for a Ruby community in the
spirit of
http://forum.world.st/a-Pharo-t
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 6:33 AM, roberto.mine...@usi.ch <
roberto.mine...@usi.ch> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Following the Fuel test FLUserGuidesTest>>#testGZip I discovered that I
> can serialize and materialize to and from GZip archives. Cool!
>
> I tried with some small test object and it worked like a c
On 29 Apr 2014, at 16:13, Eliot Miranda wrote:
> Hi Marcus,
>
>
> On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
>>
>> On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:29, Eliot Miranda wrote:
>>
>>> Without any information on what has been changed these GitHub messages are
>>> almost pure noise. It's more t
I did a simple test, googled for "smalltalk jobs", and the fourth
result was a link to this page:
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyIsSmalltalkDead, which contains historical
info and some rants about the ups and downs of Smalltalk use.
But had a link to a Paul Graham's essay I read many years ago, which
As it is MIT I ported it to Pharo:
Code is available on
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/SuffixConditionals
One can load it from the config browser
Bye
T.
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. April 2014 um 14:29 Uhr
> Von: "Sean P. DeNigris"
> An: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org
> Betreff: Re: [Phar
On Apr 30, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Torsten Bergmann [via Smalltalk]
wrote:
> As it is MIT I ported it to Pharo:
Cool! Thanks :) Was it straightforward to port? I haven’t ported anything from
VW in a while. Xtreams was in my sights - we did a proof of concept with
filetree and cyprus mapping namespa
Thanks Torsten.
I've been using my own favorite suffix conditional: #haltIfTrue.
Regards!
Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-04-30 10:57 GMT-03:00 Torsten Bergmann :
> As it is MIT I ported it to Pharo:
>
> Code is available on
> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/SuffixConditionals
>
> One can
reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/24d9d2/pharo_30_the_immersive_live_environment_released/
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:01, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> Dear World,
>
> Pharo 3.0 (http://www.pharo.org) is here.
>
>
>
> The past year seemed short as we got busy building more than
It was a "no-brainer", I did'nt even load the code into VisualWorks
(which I do not have installed these days as I have no up to date copy/version).
I just checked https://github.com/randycoulman/SuffixConditionals, the *.pst
files are XML files and are therefore readable. 3 extension methods
if:
and is also at ycombinator
thumbs up!
Esteban
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:14, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> reddit:
>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/24d9d2/pharo_30_the_immersive_live_environment_released/
>
>
> On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:01, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>
>> Dear World,
Hi,
The new website is online!
http://pharo.org
For now, pharo-project.org still is the old website.
Next: pharo-project.org should forward to pharo.org,
it will still be available as old.pharo-project.org for some time.
Thanks a lot to
Nico http://nicolas-petton.fr,
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7673462
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:24, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> and is also at ycombinator
>
> thumbs up!
>
> Esteban
>
>
> On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:14, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>
>> reddit:
>>
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/24d9d2/pharo_30
Hi Marcus,
On Apr 30, 2014, at 6:42 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
> On 29 Apr 2014, at 16:13, Eliot Miranda wrote:
>
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>>
>> On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:29, Eliot Miranda wrote:
>>>
Without any information on what
Okay, here is version 0.1 - the most basic useful functionality to aid in
writing mappings.
"Assuming Neo-JSON-Core is loaded"
Gofer it
smalltalkhubUser: 'SeanDeNigris' project: 'SeansPlayground';
package: 'Neo-JSON-Utilities';
load.
Now if you:
reader := NeoJSONRe
> I just checked https://github.com/randycoulman/SuffixConditionals, the *.pst
> files are XML files and are therefore readable
Ha, cool!
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Marcus Denker-4 wrote
> The new website is online!
Wow! Instantly obvious that Aurelia was involved because it has that "well
designed" look instead of our usual "I'm an engineer trying my best" look,
lol ;-P
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yeah, and don’t forget Nico’s effort :)
I put him real pressure on him last 3 weeks, and he took it without complain…
and he did a great work :)
Esteban
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:35, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
> Marcus Denker-4 wrote
>> The new website is online!
>
> Wow! Instantly obvious that Aur
2014-04-30 11:35 GMT-03:00 Sean P. DeNigris :
> Marcus Denker-4 wrote
>> The new website is online!
>
> Wow! Instantly obvious that Aurelia was involved because it has that "well
> designed" look instead of our usual "I'm an engineer trying my best" look,
> lol ;-P
+1
The design is really nice. C
EstebanLM wrote
> yeah, and don’t forget Nico’s effort :)
I didn't actually *do* anything with the site yet, just enjoyed the look, so
I was saving that praise ;)
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Also on DZONE
http://www.dzone.com/links/pharo_30_is_out_the_live_programming_environment.html
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. April 2014 um 16:27 Uhr
> Von: "Sven Van Caekenberghe"
> An: "Pharo Development List"
> Cc: "Any question about pharo is welcome"
> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 Relea
Today is a great day !
I am really proud to be part of this community and thankful for the
contributions and hard work of so many people.
This is a very important milestone while the future looks even brighter.
Sven
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:01, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> Dear World,
>
> Pharo
Eliot Miranda-2 wrote
> Do they have a feedback channel through which you could ask? Why don't
> you ask them?
Their feedback channel is unbelievable given how most companies handle
customer service - you contact them via github.com, and a real, knowledgable
person gets back to you... I've reache
>From Reddit, a reader has a good point:
"Ok, but WTF is Pharo? A new OS, A language/gui, A dockeresque
container system, Wordpress clone? What!!!
Novice tip. On your about page include answers to What does it do? Why
would I want it? Don't include a mission statement..."
Maybe we should be more
Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
The new website is online!
Wow! Instantly obvious that Aurelia was involved because it has that "well
designed" look instead of our usual "I'm an engineer trying my best" look,
lol ;-P
Lots of white space. Love it. Its
We need more votes & comments to get to the front page !
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:27, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7673462
>
> On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:24, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>
>> and is also at ycombinator
>>
>> thumbs up!
>>
>> Esteban
>>
>>
>> On
Esteban A. Maringolo wrote
> "Ok, but WTF is Pharo? A new OS, A language/gui, A dockeresque
The pattern from other "cool" language home pages seems to be one sentence
with what and why (examples below).
Here's a first take leveraging Simon Sinek's advice to "Start With Why" [1]:
Do you want tota
there you go.
I changed the “why pharo” taking your ides and extending them a bit.
opinions/contributions are welcome :)
Esteban
On 30 Apr 2014, at 17:24, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
> Esteban A. Maringolo wrote
>> "Ok, but WTF is Pharo? A new OS, A language/gui, A dockeresque
>
> The pattern fr
On 04/28/2014 11:12 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
… more a Smalltalk one using Pharo:
MountainWest RubyConf 2014
Noel Rappin: "But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk”
Smalltalk has mystique. We talk about it more than we use it. It seems like it
should be so similar to Ruby. It has similar Object-
And a big +1 on that!
On Apr 30, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> Today is a great day !
>
> I am really proud to be part of this community and thankful for the
> contributions and hard work of so many people.
>
> This is a very important milestone while the future looks eve
Slick! Congrats on the site.
On Apr 30, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The new website is online!
>
> http://pharo.org
>
> For now, pharo-project.org still is the old website.
> Next: pharo-project.org should forward to pharo.org,
> it will still be available as old
big big + 1
Congrat to all of us
Alexandre
On Apr 30, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Johan Fabry wrote:
>
> And a big +1 on that!
>
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
>> Today is a great day !
>>
>> I am really proud to be part of this community and thankful for the
>> con
>
> There are no NativeBoost on Rpi, FFI or OSProcess.
> Basically the fileSystem work, but some data are fetch via env variable
> and then NativeBoost.
> The solution is to bypass all the request of env variable.
> You should use another way until, we finish to integrate a way to request
> correct
One of Simon Sinek's core ideas is that people "buy" your product because
they believe what you believe, and that the why needs to come first to suck
them in.
Until we decide on the perfect wording, I would at least:
- change the heading from "The live programming environment" to "The
immersive pr
Yes, well done!!
Alexandre
On Apr 30, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Johan Fabry wrote:
>
> Slick! Congrats on the site.
>
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The new website is online!
>>
>> http://pharo.org
>>
>> For now, pharo-project.org still is the old web
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> Today is a great day !
>
> I am really proud to be part of this community and thankful for the
> contributions and hard work of so many people.
>
> This is a very important milestone while the future looks even brighter.
>
Very true
Pharo := Smalltalk ++
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
> On 04/28/2014 11:12 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
>> … more a Smalltalk one using Pharo:
>>
>> MountainWest RubyConf 2014
>>
>> Noel Rappin: "But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk”
>>
>> Smalltalk has mystique. We t
From reddit...
> My mac complains: "Pharo3.0" can't be opened because it is from an
unidentified developer. Your security prefernces allow installation of
only apps from the Mac App Store and identified developers. Of course I
just can turn off this. But still.
What is the constraint to produ
As a data point, OSProcess works "out-of-the-box" with the Squeak interpreter
VM shipped with Raspbian. So should be ok in Pharo, but I haven't tried it.
Doug
On Apr 30, 2014, at 09:03 , David T. Lewis wrote:
>>
>> There are no NativeBoost on Rpi, FFI or OSProcess.
>> Basically the fileSystem
+10
I think Sean's suggestions and perspective make a lot of sense. Let's also not
forget that he is a native English speaker and we are not. And the whole idea
of the new website was mainly about marketing anyway.
On 30 Apr 2014, at 18:04, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
> One of Simon Sinek's core
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