Hopefully, you get that package working correctly.
And yes, PLUG is involved in politics at a grass roots level. There is no way
that anyone can completely outlaw Linux anywhere on the planet. Far too many of
us would end up going underground. Sure, we would use windows on our public
facing
yeah.
Btw, if anyone ever realized what went into so-called “green technologies”,
they would be sick and then start screaming about how they were lied to. To
begin with, anything that uses metals of any kind in it’s technological base is
not green. Anything that uses long chain hydrocarbon
I should have done more research. My apologies about Gates and his
farmland.
On 2021-08-03 10:12, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote:
I'd like to point out that while you say global warming is bunk (I'm
not saying it is or it isn't) but then you throw out a crazy theory of
Bill Gates taking
I'd like to point out that while you say global warming is bunk (I'm not
saying it is or it isn't) but then you throw out a crazy theory of Bill
Gates taking control because he has about 300k in acres of farmland. Having
the most doesn't mean all, there are still 910 million more acres of
farmland
I am one of the main offenders and I apologize.
I appreciate you Michael. You were one of the people who responded to
my questions about Postfix/Dovecot. I am further along and have a
functioning server, however Postfix/Dovecot is still too much of a
mystery to me. I need to learn more.
While this is true, perhaps we could be more considerate of those who
prefer not to engage in political discourse and retain their heads buried
in the sand while the world changes around them.
We should also move our legendary battle to a dark alley and let our psu
power cord nun-chucks and
Like it or not, politics drives everything in our world.especially technology.
On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 10:39:07 AM EDT, Michael Butash via
PLUG-discuss wrote:
Ugh, these pseudo political/religious threads are best served elsewhere,
perhaps create a plug-politics group so the CNN
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/tesla-megapack-battery-fire-australia-finally-extinguished-after-four-days-burning
so much for green technology.On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 10:39:07 AM EDT,
Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Ugh, these pseudo political/religious threads are
Ugh, these pseudo political/religious threads are best served elsewhere,
perhaps create a plug-politics group so the CNN vs. Fox News crowds to
argue in. Otherwise, can we just go back to technology and not how much
the world sucks these days? Tired of checking the list for new updates
with this
Your looking immediate. If you look at the past one thousand years you
will discover the weather changes.
In 1980 I was in Tucson when a heat wave hit. It was 101 degrees. For
the past 40 years we have seen pretty hot weather. And then all of a
sudden it is raining in Phoenix and the
In spite of my beliefs that there is no global warming I would like to
convert my house to all electric and put as much solar on my roof as it
will take. My goal is net zero house budget.
If possible I'd like to have no electric or gas bill and generate enough
electricity that my rebate
On 8/2/21 5:28 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> Now that is funny. Global Warming is a Global thing right? So isn't
> Canada supposed to melt just like everything else.
>
> I thought the world was goin to burn up in 12 years. Been hearing that
> for decades.
>
The world *is*
Now that is funny. Global Warming is a Global thing right? So isn't
Canada supposed to melt just like everything else.
I thought the world was goin to burn up in 12 years. Been hearing that
for decades.
On 2021-08-02 11:49, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Matthew Gibson via
No. No one who has experienced the freedom found in America will willing
trade places worth someone living under communist rule. Otherwise we would
see a mass exodus of communist sympathizers to communist countries. 2060
Americans most likely will figure out a different solution than your doom
Matthew Gibson said on Mon, 2 Aug 2021 11:56:48 -0700
>And if you have your way we will be looking a lot like Venezuela or
>Cuba.
And if you have your way, 2060 Americans would gleefully trade places
with today's Venezuelans or Cubans.
>Now, aside from attempting to force your will upon me and
And if you have your way we will be looking a lot like Venezuela or Cuba.
Now, aside from attempting to force your will upon me and society, what
can you personally do to lower your carbon footprint?
On Mon, Aug 2, 2021, 11:49 AM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>
Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss said on Mon, 2 Aug 2021 10:02:13 -0700
>There's a reason people are pouring over the southern border and
>waiting in droves to properly immigrate here. Because of the freedom
>and opportunity that can be found here.
And if you have your way, in 50 years Americans
Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Mon, 02 Aug 2021 09:19:31 -0700
>I could start a blog on global warming.
>
>Follow the money.
Straight to the oil companies.
SteveT
Steve Litt
Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful
Technologist
So let's see our global neighbors take up more of the slack in cutting
their carbon emmissions, while America continues to invest in technology
that will benefit the globe and do so at market rates. Instead of by royal
dictate that lines the pockets of corrupt government members.
There's a
On 8/2/21 9:19 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:
>
> I think we are missing the point.
>
> This is America!! We have lost our way.
Except... this is a global issue, and not just an American issue.
Looking at it through the lens of America first, and blinding yourself
to the global
I think we are missing the point.
This is America!! We have lost our way.
Government was instituted to protect us at the Federal level and protect
us, provide water, sewer, roads, and schools and no more at the local
level. At the state level the government is supposed to protect us from
Global warming is junk science! Why is the summer so cool this year?
Weather trends. The science tells us there are weather trends. There
was a mini ice age before there where cars. The ice caps are not
melting and the oceans rising. LA is still here. For 30 years you have
been
All this bickering is missing the overall point:
The era of mainstream desktop PCs draining huge amounts of electricity
is over. The expectation is that we now use power efficient PCs, whether
we like it or not.
If only the graphics card vendors would make usable high end graphics
cards that
The time to ask for sources was 4 days ago, when I still had the
websites on my browser.
So I'll just say this: Get inside a car, in the summer sunlight, whose
windows and doors have been closed for a couple hours. It's hot. Really
hot. The light from the sun passed through the glass and heated
I was going to go into a long involved essay on this citing many facts and
figures, but I won’t. You cited these numbers, now show your work with sources.
Some of your figures don’t account for changes in population versus use by
sector or total energy = total used + total wasted. It also
Is there really global warming? is a question that should be asked
repeatedly. From what I have read we know entirely too little about the
weather to be able to determine there is global warming.
If there is global warming why such a mild summer in Phoenix? What
about those ice caps -
What about all those emailsthat were hacked years ago where the
scientists were encouraging publishing false climate data?
On 2021-07-28 15:42, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 08:05:22 -0700
2) Is there really global warming?
Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:56:24 -0700
>I wonder is it possible for those who want a more powerful computer
>than may be illegal just build it from parts? Is it possible to get
>the parts from Newegg?
Yes. The video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5fc5ZX6Kzk
Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:51:01 -0700
>One of the things that scares me, and there are a few when it comes to
>China, is most of my pharmaceuticals are made in China. When China
>finally becomes extremely hostile towards the US what happens then?
>
>We need to
Jim via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:48:55 -0700
> Of course if California didn't have this irrational fear
>of nuclear power
Earthquakes. Tsunamis (near the coast).
I was in a 6.9 earthquake in 1994, and it broke the studs in the wall.
Do you really want a fission reactor in an
Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 08:05:22 -0700
>2) Is there really global warming?
Aren't we past that kind of question by now? If you don't believe the
scientists, then at least read up on the Greenhouse Effect and then
notice that on sunny days the interior of your car
greg zegan via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 14:48:02 +
(UTC)
> The irony is the United States and the West in general was suppose to
> be against tyranny and centrally planned economies and governments.
> At least that is what I was told growing up. U.S.S.R. and Russia
> bad.
Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 07:10:16 -0700
>Jays Two Cents explains it pretty effectively:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5fc5ZX6Kzk
Thank you Ryan,
From that video I learned that the regulation is somewhat bizarre and
might not be optimal at addressing the climate
of
people when the wind speed picked up.
On 7/27/21 7:16 AM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:
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> ><https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs>
> >
>
> Allow me to change the headline of this article to...
>
> "Six States Responsible Enough to Limit
fearful of another fire that they'd turn off the power to millions of
people when the wind speed picked up.
On 7/27/21 7:16 AM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs
One of the things that scares me, and there are a few when it comes to
China, is most of my pharmaceuticals are made in China. When China
finally becomes extremely hostile towards the US what happens then?
We need to start moving manufacturing back to the US. It is a matter of
national
fearful of another
fire that they'd turn off the power to millions of people when the wind
speed picked up.
On 7/27/21 7:16 AM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs
<https://www.zerohedge.
Um, it’s not a fascination. It’s hard facts seen by live examples. Besides Bill
Gates, who is the largestest farm land owner in the US: China (by way of many
holding companies). Who now manufactures most of the electronics seen in
everyday life. Again, China. Those are just 2 prime examples. Oh
These are the talking points of the left. Eric gave a good reply.
Government is instituted to protect us - period. Let the the FREE
market decide.
If we do have water wars it is because we are not using technology to
solve problems.
As for CA I think converted ocean water might be the
Nice job Eric!! I'm going to print this out and frame it. This is the
side of the debate that is being kept from us.
On 2021-07-27 22:53, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Yes,
However, California is also in the midst of a cyclic drought (tree
ring studies going back nearly 1k years
Poor California. I was stationed in Orange County CA in 1976 - 1977 it
was very nice. It has since been mismanaged. Why is there so may wild
fires in CA? What about the recall?
Look at San Francisco designer trash cans and poop in the streets.
CA has the biggest homeless problem in the
mit I got baited.
On Jul 27, 2021, at 2:58 PM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
wrote:
greg zegan via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 14:16:27
+
(UTC)
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs
Allow me to change the hea
:
gregzegan via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 14:16:27+
(UTC)
>https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs
>
Allowme to change the headline of this article to...
"SixStates Responsible Enough to Lim
> >https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs
> >
>
> Allow me to change the headline of this article to...
>
> "Six States Responsible Enough to Limit Computer Power Consumption"
>
> Anyo
greg zegan via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 14:16:27 +
(UTC)
>
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs
>
Allow me to change the headline of this article to...
"Six States Responsible Enough to Limit Com
Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 22:53:09 -0700
>So, guys, nice little debate we all got snagged into here because of
>some state regulations that would prevent nearly 60 million people
>from owning technologies that would make their lives more convenient.
>Regulations put in
Yes,
However, California is also in the midst of a cyclic drought (tree ring studies
going back nearly 1k years proves this).
Also, California has one of the longest coastlines of any state. One last item,
how is it that much of the intermountain west (which has many thousands of
square miles
Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 21:22:33 -0700
>It is also interesting that those very same states that push EV’s also
>have not upgraded their power systems in quite some time. California
>is the leader on this list of shame with rolling blackouts and
>brownouts each summer.
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to do the whole “war with China thing…” then you
>> got my reply and I admit I got baited.
>>> On Jul 27, 2021, at 2:58 PM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
>>> wrote:
>>> greg zegan via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 14:16:27
>>> +
>>> (UTC
Litt via PLUG-discuss
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greg zegan via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 14:16:27
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(UTC)
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs
Allow me to change the headline of this article to...
"Six States Respon
www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs
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>>
>> Allow me to change the headline of this article to...
>>
>> "Six States Responsible Enough to Limit Computer Power Consumption"
>>
>> Anyo
wrote:
>
> greg zegan via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 14:16:27 +
> (UTC)
>
>> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs
>>
>
> Allow me to change the headline of this article to...
>
> "
greg zegan via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 14:16:27 +
(UTC)
>https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs
>
Allow me to change the headline of this article to...
"Six States Responsible Enough to Limit Com
my town!?” The officer
> screams into your ear as he pins you to the ground and cuffs you. “No one
> gets more than 24 FPS in LA!”
>
> On Jul 27, 2021, at 7:16 AM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> https://www.zeroh
going to
get away with this in my town!?” The officer screams into your ear as he pins
you to the ground and cuffs you. “No one gets more than 24 FPS in LA!”
On Jul 27, 2021, at 7:16 AM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss
wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited
our ear as he pins you to the ground and cuffs you. “No one
>> gets more than 24 FPS in LA!”
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2021, at 7:16 AM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> https://www.zerohedge.com/pol
no one is laughing.
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> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
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