On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 18:46, Matt Iavarone wrote:
> Again, you are showing your ignorance. If you enter without inspection,
> you cannot apply for a visa or change your status. You have to go back to
> your native country, subject to a ban of up to 10 years, and then apply and
> wait, and of c
On May 18, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Alex Dean wrote:
On May 18, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
Wake up and smell the coffee.
This coffee doesn't smell anything like linux. Can this please be
ended? This thread has run its cour
due to repeated inappropriate use of this list, all posts relating to
the apple boycott will be filtered to trash.
if some members fail to respect the other members of this list, and if
the managers of this list fail to take appropriate action, i can and will.
Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2010
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do the job the federal PLUG government wont do... jmz
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Jim wrote:
> due to repeated inappropriate use of this list, all posts relating to the
> apple boycott will be filtered to trash.
>
> if some members fail to respect the other members of this list, and if
At 01:23 PM 5/16/2010, you wrote:
On 5/16/10 12:54 PM, Joshua
Zeidner wrote:
Hello PLUG,
I am wondering if anyone is switching off Apple products due
to the
recent Los Angeles boycott of Arizona:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/12/20100512los-angeles-boycott-vote-over-arizona-i
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 00:40 +, huerta...@gmail.com wrote:
> It should be marked as OT. The thread doesn't really have anything to do with
> Linux anymore.
it never did.
It does however illustrate the perceptual problem that people living
elsewhere have with Arizona.
Craig
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This me
Give us more detail. In your opinion, what is the perceptual problem that
others have and how does this thread illustrate that perceptual problem?
Keith Smith
--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Craig White wrote:
From: Craig White
Subject: Re: [OT] ditching Apple products due
people living elsewhere don't have a perceptual problem with Arizona.
Last time I checked over 65% of the country is in total support of us. You
need to stop watching the idiot box.
-jmz
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Craig White wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 00:40 +, huerta...@gm
d maybe we should put some pavement on some of those
dirt roads.
Keith Smith
--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
From: Joshua Zeidner
Subject: Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Monday, May 17, 2010
history.
>> History is being made in your backyard. We are one of the most conservative
>> states in the US and we have taken a stand. There will be 10 or more states
>> by this time next year.
>>
>> Bring your camcorder and record history. Put your video onto YouTube.com.
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 20:12, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
> Well... we did steal it from Mexico. In a style that is reminiscent of the
> Romans but is still distinctly American. In truth it is an awesome tail of
> we want it, we can make claim for it, we can take
Did you not even read you cited references? It is more like if I
called your mama fat beat you up and then drove off down the street in
your car after tossing you a few bucks and a pick of your naked sister
out the window onto your limp body and then when the cops showed up
made you say thank you a
Flame wars? Really? Did you all read that linux magazine article about how
the editor thinks they are enjoyable reads?
from my DROID
On May 17, 2010 9:41 PM, "Bryan O'Neal" <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
Did you not even read you cited references? It is more like if I
called you
Indeed I did ;)
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Tim Noeding wrote:
> Flame wars? Really? Did you all read that linux magazine article about how
> the editor thinks they are enjoyable reads?
>
> from my DROID
>
> On May 17, 2010 9:41 PM, "Bryan O'Neal"
> wrote:
>
> Did you not even read you cit
Sure, some of the radical rhetoric, on both sides, sounds scary, and I
understand people are upset and angry. While I don't think a listserv lends
to people understanding each other on a volatile issue like this, I thought
I'd still share this link from the conservative think tank, the Cato
Institu
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 21:41, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
> Did you not even read you cited references?
>
Not that I am complaining. I think it was a bold move that paid off
> very, very, well. But denying the nature of the conflict is like
> saying the Civil War
Regardless of your political point of view or personal feelings on the
issues boycotts by state are stupid and pointless. These boycotts of
arizona do not affect those who affect the law. The boycotts only hurt
those they are trying to protect. I am a fan of an eye for an eye but
these boycotts end
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 06:58, James Finstrom
wrote:
> Regardless of your political point of view or personal feelings on the
> issues boycotts by state are stupid and pointless. These boycotts of
> arizona do not affect those who affect the law. The boycotts only hurt
> those they are trying to p
All rhetoric aside... for anyone actually interested the text of the law
fueling all of this debate you can read it here:
http://www.azleg.gov/alispdfs/council/SB1070-HB2162.PDF
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Sure, some of the radical rhetoric, on both sides, sounds scary, and I
understand people are upset and angry. While I don't think a listserv lends to
people understanding each other on a
I agree. The first question one should ask when someone makes a comment is
"Have you read the law?". I have and it is very tame.
Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 5/18/10, JD Austin wrote:
From: JD Austin
Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
one makes a comment is
> "Have you read the law?". I have and it is very tame.
>
>
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Tue, 5/18/10, JD Austin * wrote:
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>
> From: JD Austin
>
> Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
> To: &
JD - Good I am taking this in a very light hatred manor - I was hoping
it came across that way through email :)
As for the American empire and current illegal activity; it does not
justify the breaking of laws in any way - I was retorting to the
"liberal" (or conservative not sure which it was) cu
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:04, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
>
> The whole point I would like to make is that truth depends greatly on
> your point of view. Don't recite rhetoric, think in a logical and
> scientific manor, don't cloud the issue, define the problem an
truth turn off your TV and start reading the blogs. The
> real truth is our there.
>
>
>
> --------
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>
> --- On *Mon, 5/17/10, Ariel Gold * wrote:
>
>
> From: Ariel Gold
> Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
>
At 12:47 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote:
So you are seriously telling me
the DOJ stats, cited by the conservative CATO institute, are
misinformation?
I don't know yet...I did copy that info to one of the section leaders in
the county Atty's office, and the immediate response was one of
surprise.and
000 people.
Hey but crime has not risen!
Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Ariel Gold wrote:
From: Ariel Gold
Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 12:45 PM
I would be sur
I agree - what I would like to see is not to allow more immigration
but allow more guest workers. No rites, heavily taxed, but documented
and working.
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM, JD Austin wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:04, Bryan O'Neal
> wrote:
>>
>> The whole point I would like to
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 13:25, keith smith wrote:
>
> I think you missed my point. My Point : Just because there is as much
> crime last year as this year does not mean there isn't a problem.
>
>
It's a sad truth that few people are ever swayed by logic when the issue is
emotional and vice-versa
yan O'Neal
Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 1:44 PM
I agree - what I would like to see is not to allow more immigration
but allow more guest workers. No rites, heavily taxed, but documented
and working.
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 13:44, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
> I agree - what I would like to see is not to allow more immigration
> but allow more guest workers. No rites, heavily taxed, but documented
> and working.
>
This covers the above: http://www.ebaumsworld.
While I agree that it is generally preferable to try to keep this forum as
focused as possible on primarily Linux related topics ... on the other
hand as long as the subject line clearly states "OT" ... then why not just
let it run its course.
Seems to me that the main thing is to just make sure
At 01:02 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote:
At 12:47 PM 5/18/2010, you
wrote:
So you are seriously telling me
the DOJ stats, cited by the conservative CATO institute, are
misinformation?
I don't know yet...I did copy that info to one of the section leaders in
the county Atty's office, and the immediate res
Excellent reference!
Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
From: Lyle Tuttle
Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 2:24 PM
At 01:02 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote:
At 04:57 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote:
This is perhaps the most
ignorant statement I have ever seen on the subject. Do you really believe
these people would not rather have had the opportunty to come here
legally? Are you really that out of touch with
reality?
Of course they would! And they are work
_embedded#!
Keith Smith
--- On Sun, 5/16/10, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
From: Lyle Tuttle
Subject: (OT)Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 3:10 PM
At 01:23 PM 5/16/2010, you wrote:
On 5/16/10 12:54 PM, J
Good Job!
Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
From: Lyle Tuttle
Subject: (OT) Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 6:44 PM
At 04:57 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote:
This
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