Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-26 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <9DB876C170EF4365AC0C6C9968C69C37@d3hkh9x94>, Dilwyn Jones writes 16th & 17th April. The Quanta website has not been updated since July of last year and my understanding is that there is little chance of it being updated in the near future. Ah - a weekend *totally* full for me with

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-25 Thread Dave Park
This reply is to both previous emails... On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > One thing I think would help Quanta is to acknowledge that the internet is >>> a >>> primary form of communication - I know this seems obvious and they could >>> say >>> "we're doing it" but, c'mon, re

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-25 Thread Dilwyn Jones
One thing I think would help Quanta is to acknowledge that the internet is a primary form of communication - I know this seems obvious and they could say "we're doing it" but, c'mon, really? :) Where's the Quanta forum? Where are the public areas and the members only areas within it? Just on

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-25 Thread Tony Firshman
Dave Park wrote, on 25/Feb/11 15:38 | Feb25: I have my own web server, which is somewhat of a luxury for me :) I have used wordpress, and when my needs grew beyond it, I installed Drupal - which in the end I considered too heavy and which demanded too many resources from the server. When it has

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-25 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Dave Park" Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 3:38 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply One thing I think would help Quanta is to acknowledge that the internet is a primary form of communication - I know this seems o

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-25 Thread Dave Park
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:26 AM, gdgqler wrote: > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:37, Norman Dunbar wrote: > > > Morning Dilwyn, > > > >> However, the failure to explain all this publicly and the fact it went > on for a long > >> time without explanation does give the impression of negligence in > updati

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-25 Thread gdgqler
On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:37, Norman Dunbar wrote: > Morning Dilwyn, > >> However, the failure to explain all this publicly and the fact it went on >> for a long >> time without explanation does give the impression of negligence in updating >> the >> website, whereas the truth is that the whole so

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-25 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Maybe it's the people using it? Maybe the free hosting company can't cope with the load, who knows. The system itself seems pretty light on resources, so maybe the switch to a paid for host will help. My own website (http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk) - or maybe I should call it George's web site

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-25 Thread Norman Dunbar
Morning Dilwyn, > However, the failure to explain all this publicly and the fact it went on for > a long > time without explanation does give the impression of negligence in updating > the > website, whereas the truth is that the whole sorry situation is actually down to > the CMS not working as

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-24 Thread Dilwyn Jones
>> 16th & 17th April. The Quanta website has not been updated since July of >> last year and my understanding is that there is little chance of it >> being updated in the near future. > Ah - a weekend *totally* full for me with Bach St John Passion (8-(# > Another AGM missed. >> >> Draw your own co

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-24 Thread Tony Firshman
Geoff Wicks wrote, on 24/Feb/11 20:35 | Feb24: -- From: "Dave Park" Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 7:03 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: Geoff Wicks wrote,

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-24 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Dave Park" Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 7:03 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: Geoff Wicks wrote, on 24/Feb/11 18:43 | Feb24: Hrmm - what wee

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-24 Thread Tony Firshman
[Ql-Users] Finally a reply Geoff Wicks wrote, on 24/Feb/11 13:56 | Feb24: Likewise, if anyone from abroad would like us to help find a place to stay for the weekend, please do get in touch. Manchester airport is not too far away, for example. Sarah has recommended a private hotel i

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-24 Thread Dave Park
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: > Geoff Wicks wrote, on 24/Feb/11 18:43 | Feb24: > > >> >> -- >> From: "Tony Firshman" >> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:03 PM >>

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-24 Thread Tony Firshman
Geoff Wicks wrote, on 24/Feb/11 18:43 | Feb24: -- From: "Tony Firshman" Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:03 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply Geoff Wicks wrote, on 24/Feb/11 13:56 | Feb24: Likewise, if anyone f

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-24 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Tony Firshman" Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:03 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply Geoff Wicks wrote, on 24/Feb/11 13:56 | Feb24: Likewise, if anyone from abroad would like us to help find a place t

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-24 Thread Tony Firshman
Geoff Wicks wrote, on 24/Feb/11 13:56 | Feb24: Likewise, if anyone from abroad would like us to help find a place to stay for the weekend, please do get in touch. Manchester airport is not too far away, for example. Sarah has recommended a private hotel in the past and I have not heard any

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-24 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Dilwyn Jones" Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 8:36 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply Likewise, if anyone from abroad would like us to help find a place to stay for the weekend, please do get in touch.

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Thanks for the offer to help with rewriting the constitution - we have the beginnings of a potential constitution redrafting team, Best wishes, Geoff For members, there will be an open forum to discuss the Quanta constitution on the sunday morning of the Workshop/AGM in April (16th/17th) in

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-09 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Malcolm Cadman" Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:46 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply Hi Geoff, I agree with most of what you say, apart from keeping the "Term of Office" feature. Better

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-08 Thread Plastic
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: > In message , gdgqler < > gdgq...@gmail.com> writes > >> >> On 7 Feb 2011, at 19:52, Geoff Wicks wrote: >> >> Perhaps the entire constitution of Quanta needs altering. >>> Now where did I hear that recently ;-) >>> >>> I once w

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-08 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message , gdgqler writes On 7 Feb 2011, at 19:52, Geoff Wicks wrote: Perhaps the entire constitution of Quanta needs altering. Now where did I hear that recently ;-) I once was involved in rewriting an entire constitution. When Works Council Law was changed in the Netherlands all Wor

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-08 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <7CEE673EF74B4720829CBA46D820817B@geoffbqm5ccx41>, Geoff Wicks writes -- From: "gdgqler" Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:53 AM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply Perhaps the entire constitution of Quant

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-08 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <8ce6ad4b-05c2-47a7-a160-e652833bb...@gmail.com>, gdgqler writes On 6 Feb 2011, at 21:07, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message <4d45ec4b.7030...@sbcglobal.net>, Timothy Swenson writes On 1/30/2011 10:48 AM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Were Officers to be elected, directly, at an AGM, i

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-08 Thread gdgqler
On 7 Feb 2011, at 19:52, Geoff Wicks wrote: >> >> Perhaps the entire constitution of Quanta needs altering. >> > > Now where did I hear that recently ;-) > > I once was involved in rewriting an entire constitution. When Works Council > Law was changed in the Netherlands all Works Councils ha

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-07 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "gdgqler" Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:53 AM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply Perhaps the entire constitution of Quanta needs altering. Now where did I hear that recently ;-) I once was involved in re

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-07 Thread gdgqler
On 6 Feb 2011, at 21:07, Malcolm Cadman wrote: > In message <4d45ec4b.7030...@sbcglobal.net>, Timothy Swenson > writes > >> On 1/30/2011 10:48 AM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: >>> Were Officers to be elected, directly, at an AGM, it would open the door >>> to someone incompetent to get voted in, or s

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-02-06 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <4d45ec4b.7030...@sbcglobal.net>, Timothy Swenson writes On 1/30/2011 10:48 AM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Were Officers to be elected, directly, at an AGM, it would open the door to someone incompetent to get voted in, or some collusion to take place. Interesting, as California State

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-30 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I'm guessing that the AGM is the same as a General Member Meeting. Yes, the AGM TLA stands for Annual General Meeting. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-30 Thread john
On Friday 28 Jan 2011 20:29:56 Geoff Wicks wrote: > Having written all this let me be the first person to state in public that > the time has come for Quanta to be wound up. When an organisation is > reduced to breaching its constitution to survive it has become a gigantic > farce. If we needed Qu

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-30 Thread Timothy Swenson
On 1/30/2011 10:48 AM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Were Officers to be elected, directly, at an AGM, it would open the door to someone incompetent to get voted in, or some collusion to take place. Interesting, as California State code for Non-profits pretty much specifies that members vote on office

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-30 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <4d44a2e0.7040...@sbcglobal.net>, Timothy Swenson writes Hi Tim, The simple way around this, is for all of the Officers to step down at the AGM, every Year. Then, for a few seconds, the organisation has no Officers - no one in charge. Following this brief period of time, the n

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer

2011-01-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On 30/01/2011 10:16, gdgqler wrote: On 30 Jan 2011, at 10:05, Rich Mellor wrote: On 30/01/2011 09:29, gdgqler wrote: On 29 Jan 2011, at 20:24, Geoff Wicks wrote: Can a person who has been appointed treasurer of Quanta in a breach of the constitution - a legally binding document - legally si

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer

2011-01-30 Thread gdgqler
On 30 Jan 2011, at 10:05, Rich Mellor wrote: > On 30/01/2011 09:29, gdgqler wrote: >> On 29 Jan 2011, at 20:24, Geoff Wicks wrote: >> >>> Can a person who has been appointed treasurer of Quanta in a breach of the >>> constitution - a legally binding document - legally sign cheques under >>> Br

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer

2011-01-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On 30/01/2011 09:29, gdgqler wrote: On 29 Jan 2011, at 20:24, Geoff Wicks wrote: Can a person who has been appointed treasurer of Quanta in a breach of the constitution - a legally binding document - legally sign cheques under British law? If the bank accepts the signature it doesn't matter

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-30 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Rich Mellor" Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:45 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply On 29/01/2011 12:54, Geoff Wicks wrote: -- From: "Rich Mellor

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-30 Thread matrassyl
lly a reply - from the Treasurer -- From: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:49 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer > Hi Geoff, > > Suggest you look up transactional analysis in google espec

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer

2011-01-30 Thread gdgqler
On 29 Jan 2011, at 20:24, Geoff Wicks wrote: > > Can a person who has been appointed treasurer of Quanta in a breach of the > constitution - a legally binding document - legally sign cheques under > British law? If the bank accepts the signature it doesn't matter whether it is legally bindin

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Timothy Swenson
On 1/29/2011 5:32 PM, Rich Mellor wrote: Have you signed up to the ZX80/ZX81 forums - some interesting things on there as well about assembly programming - www.rwapservices.co.uk/ZX80_ZX81/forums/ Rich, you must be getting old. Don't you remember my signing up and a few e-mails about the Boar

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Rich Mellor
On 30/01/2011 00:05, Timothy Swenson wrote: On 1/29/2011 3:51 PM, Rich Mellor wrote: With so much experience - maybe we should nominate Tim to the committee? !! Nice Idea, but I think it will be a hell of a commute for me to attend any Quanta meeting. Even by phone, I'm 8 time zones away fro

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Timothy Swenson
On 1/29/2011 3:51 PM, Rich Mellor wrote: With so much experience - maybe we should nominate Tim to the committee? !! Nice Idea, but I think it will be a hell of a commute for me to attend any Quanta meeting. Even by phone, I'm 8 time zones away from the UK. I've let my QL Today subscription

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Rich Mellor
On 29/01/2011 23:29, Timothy Swenson wrote: From the discussion I can get a feel for what might be the issue that is being discussed. Over the last 12 years I've been on the Board of 4 different non-profits. I've written the By-laws (what you guys are calling the Constitution) for one non-pro

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Timothy Swenson
From the discussion I can get a feel for what might be the issue that is being discussed. Over the last 12 years I've been on the Board of 4 different non-profits. I've written the By-laws (what you guys are calling the Constitution) for one non-profit. The only time the By-laws really come

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer

2011-01-29 Thread Plastic
I asked a friend who could give an opinion and she said: The question here is, "If a person is appointed to a position in contravention of the Constitution, is the appointment invalid or is it merely improper." If the appointment is invalid, the person is not the position holder and cannot conduc

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Hi Geoff, Actually, I disagree and this is where the constitution is badly worded - ordinary members is also used to describe members of Quanta, not just the committee and I would therefore interpret this clause to mean that the Committee can fill vacancies by [co-opting members of Quanta] to

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Rich Mellor
On 29/01/2011 12:54, Geoff Wicks wrote: -- From: "Rich Mellor" Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:05 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply I don't want to become embroiled in the discussions over the constitutio

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Derek Stewart" Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:46 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply Geoff Quanta should continue,if there is a breach of constitution then change it. Why not wind up, this type of

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer

2011-01-29 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:49 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer Hi Geoff, Suggest you look up transactional analysis in google especially critical parent and willful child roles. In law in

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer

2011-01-29 Thread matrassyl
e you going to sue Quanta. If not then what is your purpose. Kind Regards Duncan -Original Message- From: Geoff Wicks To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:42 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer But this is a discussion we should have

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Derek Stewart
On 28/01/11 20:29, Geoff Wicks wrote: -- From: "Dilwyn Jones" Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:09 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] [QL-Users] Sandy Futura (PDF from Urs) Snip John Gilpin will be standing down from his numerous committee ro

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer

2011-01-29 Thread Geoff Wicks
ohn Gilpin" Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:15 PM To: "ql-users" Subject: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer Having read with interest Geoff Wicks' musings about the errors in QUANTA's ways, I would like to give you all, the facts that both me and the Q

[Ql-Users] Finally a reply - from the Treasurer

2011-01-29 Thread John Gilpin
Having read with interest Geoff Wicks' musings about the errors in QUANTA's ways, I would like to give you all, the facts that both me and the QUANTA Committee considered to be in accordance with the current (at that time) QUANTA Constitution. I joined the QUANTA Committee in April 2001 - see

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Billy" Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:02 AM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply If the future of Quanta is in legal jeopardy due to breaches of the constitution, then the constitution needs changed to refle

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Rich Mellor" Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:05 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply I don't want to become embroiled in the discussions over the constitution of Quanta and without seeing the minutes of

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread Billy
On 29/01/2011 09:58, gdgqler wrote: On 28 Jan 2011, at 22:18, Tony Firshman wrote: My view is that Quanta is still needed and rightly so - plenty of people are still returning to the QL and need a source of knowledge and hand-holding, it is just that Quanta needs more members and particular

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-29 Thread gdgqler
On 28 Jan 2011, at 22:18, Tony Firshman wrote: >> >> My view is that Quanta is still needed and rightly so - plenty of people are >> still returning to the QL and need a source of knowledge and hand-holding, >> it is just that Quanta needs more members and particularly committee members >> to

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-28 Thread Peter Graf
Geoff Wicks wrote: > If we needed Quanta we would be using it. In practice the active > members of Quanta represent under 10% of the UK QL community and > under 5% of the international QL community. The demise of Quanta > is something the QL community can survive I'd be glad if QUANTA can survive

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-28 Thread Lee Privett
quot; To: Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply >--- On Fri, 28/1/11, Lee Privett wrote: From: Lee Privett Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Friday, 28 January, 2011, 22:22 I agree, but to get new blood you need

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-28 Thread peet vanpeebles
>--- On Fri, 28/1/11, Lee Privett wrote: > >From: Lee Privett >Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply >To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com >Date: Friday, 28 January, 2011, 22:22 > >I agree, but to get new blood you need to reach out to new blood first, I >>dont see that hap

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-28 Thread Lee Privett
I agree, but to get new blood you need to reach out to new blood first, I dont see that happening at the moment :( Lee Privett - Sent from my Laptop running XP but emulating the QL using QPC2 Snip "My view is that Quanta is still nee

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-28 Thread Tony Firshman
On 28 Jan 2011, at 22:05, Rich Mellor wrote: > > > I did start a thread on the QL Forums about how to improve Quanta, but even > the QL community seems divided here - some people will stick steadfast to the > ql-users mailing list, whereas others prefer the forum, where it is easier to > f

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-28 Thread Rich Mellor
On 28/01/2011 20:29, Geoff Wicks wrote: -- From: "Dilwyn Jones" Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:09 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] [QL-Users] Sandy Futura (PDF from Urs) Snip John Gilpin will be standing down from his numerous committee

Re: [Ql-Users] Finally a reply

2011-01-28 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Dilwyn Jones" Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:09 PM To: Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] [QL-Users] Sandy Futura (PDF from Urs) Snip John Gilpin will be standing down from his numerous committee roles at the AGM and the new post holder