RE: POP or SMTP

2000-05-03 Thread R.Ilker Gokhan
Title: RE: POP or SMTP "Is there anybody out there?" --Pink Floyd Perhaps, you couldn't understand my bad English! :( but it isn't my native language...you may ask "what do you mean?" at least? Thanks. Ilker G. >-Original Message- >From: R.Ilker Gokhan >Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 200

Re: POP or SMTP

2000-05-03 Thread Uwe Ohse
On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 06:32:58PM +0300, R.Ilker Gokhan wrote: > My branch offices have slow links about 24.4 kbit. clear. > So i have to use lots effective their net link. You mean "i have to use the bandwidth efficiently"? > i will install mail server on brach office to communicate mai

Re: Interesting scenerio

2000-05-03 Thread Uwe Ohse
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 11:57:11AM +0300, Mulindwa Eric wrote: > I have an interesting scenerion, whereby I send mail to user and the mail > is not in the user's mailbox, what do U think could be the problem, and > also when I check in the maillog I see an error msg saying : > Yikes!Could_create_

RE: POP or SMTP

2000-05-03 Thread R.Ilker Gokhan
Title: RE: POP or SMTP > >> So i have to use lots effective their net link. > >You mean "i have to use the bandwidth efficiently"? > > >> i will install mail server on brach office to communicate main >it depends, unfortunately. >Having an own email server per branch is quite useful if ther

Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup

2000-05-03 Thread Frank D. Cringle
"Peter Samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Kins Orekhov wrote: > > ... > > So, what we have is: > > > > 1999-11-24 17:43:07.542160 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > > > > but matchup needs: > > > > 957284032.988038 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > > ... > I have a patch fo

Re: Three questions...

2000-05-03 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Tue, 2 May 2000, John White wrote: > On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 12:25:14PM -0500, Jeff Hayward wrote: > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Gareth Harper wrote: > > > > 1) His first requirement was to only allow relaying if the user had one > > of his hosted domains as the From: line of an email. I've tol

qmail Digest 3 May 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 990

2000-05-03 Thread qmail-digest-help
qmail Digest 3 May 2000 10:00:00 - Issue 990 Topics (messages 40820 through 40917): Re: qmail pop3 problem 40820 by: BlackStains 40821 by: BlackStains 40823 by: Chris Johnson Mail purge 40822 by: Mulindwa Eric 40828 by: Uwe Ohse 40859 by: Mul

Re: POP or SMTP

2000-05-03 Thread Uwe Ohse
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 11:41:47AM +0300, R.Ilker Gokhan wrote: > Thanks for replies. > which protocol should i use to establish communication between branch office > and the main office so that using the bandwith becomes more effectively? It does not really matter. The bandwidth requirements ar

Re: qmail's sendmail

2000-05-03 Thread Dave Sill
"J.M. Roth \(iip\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ok well, what do you mean with "mimic sendmail". >A customer asked me to point out to him all the options of our mail sending >tool for use in his cgi progs. >I'm not sure what to say... # grep usage: sendmail.c substdio_putsflush(subfderr,"sendm

Re: qmail's sendmail

2000-05-03 Thread Johan Almqvist
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 08:33:44AM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: > >Ok well, what do you mean with "mimic sendmail". > >A customer asked me to point out to him all the options of our mail sending > >tool for use in his cgi progs. > >I'm not sure what to say... Or else, you might want to introduce your

Re: Mail purge

2000-05-03 Thread Dave Sill
Mulindwa Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, 2 May 2000, Dave Sill wrote: > >> Mulindwa Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >I have an interesting scenerion, whereby I send mail to user and the mail >> >is not in the user's mailbox, what do U think could be the problem, and >> >also when

Re: Out of memory error??

2000-05-03 Thread Dave Sill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I realise that it is a memory leak - but how can it be fixed??? 1) You can analyze the source code of the patch, identify the leak, and fix it, 2) You can ask the author of the patch if he's aware of the problem and/or has a fix, or 3) You can hire a competant pro

Re: Newbie setting up aliases

2000-05-03 Thread Dave Sill
bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What I really mean is I can't send out mail remotely... say to my >mother-in-law for instance. Right, and you think that's a *problem*? :-) But seriously, what happens when you try to send remote mail? What Do The Logs Say(tm)? -Dave

Re: Error Message..

2000-05-03 Thread Dave Sill
Mario Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could anybody help me with this error message?... I DONT know what the >problem is.. :( > >May 3 03:05:56 svr1 qmail: 957315956.028582 new msg 205816 >May 3 03:05:56 svr1 qmail: 957315956.061896 info msg 205816: bytes 7612 >from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Interesting scenerio

2000-05-03 Thread Greg Owen
> also when I check in the maillog I see an error msg saying : > Yikes!Could_create_but_cant_delete_temperory_file!!/ENOENT:pat > h_doesnot_exist > What could be the prob. Check his .qmail file. He's probably trying to run mail through a misconfigured filter; as someone already noted, th

Re: Out of memory error??

2000-05-03 Thread TAG
Dave Sill wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I realise that it is a memory leak - but how can it be fixed??? > > 1) You can analyze the source code of the patch, identify the leak, >and fix it, > 2) You can ask the author of the patch if he's aware of the problem >and/or has a fix

RE: Interesting scenario

2000-05-03 Thread Tim Hunter
qmail does not ever print an error message like Yikes! just look at the code and you can see that. the user MUST have some type of .qmail that tells it some other type of delivery message, this has been pointed out once before, please do not continue to send this to the list. -Original Mess

Re: Interesting scenerio

2000-05-03 Thread Mulindwa Eric
Am using procmail Eric On Wed, 3 May 2000, Uwe Ohse wrote: > On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 11:57:11AM +0300, Mulindwa Eric wrote: > > > I have an interesting scenerion, whereby I send mail to user and the mail > > is not in the user's mailbox, what do U think could be the problem, and > > also when I

qmail-remote crashed

2000-05-03 Thread Nat Fellows
Hello. I just installed qmail, and I was going through and testing deliveries. Local to local works fine, but when I try to send mail out, I get this: --- May 2 09:54:55 oldbd qmail: 957275695.455731 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 May 2 10:01:36 oldbd qmail: 957276096.455387 starting delivery 1

Re: qmail-remote crashed

2000-05-03 Thread Dave Sill
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello. I just installed qmail, How? Source RPM, source tarball, or binary RPM? >And if I try to execute qmail-remote by hand, I get a seg. fault, no core >dumped. That's bad, especially if that binary was built on that system. qmail-remote is not known to crash. -D

where do I find info on setting up apop

2000-05-03 Thread dholt
My qmail system is working perfectly so now it's time to muck with it. ;-) Perhaps I am missing it in the documentation, but I have gone through the man pages and FAQ's and am still uncertain how to setup the user accounts to access qmail-pop3d using the apop protocol. I want to disable pop and

Re: qmail-remote crashed

2000-05-03 Thread Andy Repton
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 10:27:32AM -0400, Nat Fellows wrote: > Hello. I just installed qmail, and I was going through and testing > deliveries. Local to local works fine, but when I try to send mail out, I > get this: > [snip] > May 2 10:01:36 oldbd qmail: 957276096.473584 delivery 16: deferral:

local delivery for 1 user only

2000-05-03 Thread Tim Hunter
I find it amazing what corp enviroments ask IT to do instead of confronting a user on specific issues, but I was told to look into it. I have a particular user who is abusing the mail system with improper mailings to friends. We use email internally for everyone as a wonderful means of contact an

Re: qmail-remote crashed

2000-05-03 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 11:04:53AM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: > > That's bad, especially if that binary was built on that system. > qmail-remote is not known to crash. > Erm... I had a crashing qmail-remote a few weeks ago. But that was due to a hardware problem :-) Anyway... the fact is... When

Re: Web front-end to mail service

2000-05-03 Thread Patrick Ohiomoba
Probably you've already gotten this response, but sqwebmail only works with maildirs. On Tue, 2 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I stand corrected. Dave Sill also pointed out that any web front end tool, like > sqwebmail, requires the use of mbox format in a central spool director

Re: system start script

2000-05-03 Thread Zhiliang Hu
dd - Thank you! I assume it is inetd. However I moved qmail to be after inetd it didn't get qmail started either upon reboot. BTW, I have following lines in the /etc/inetd.conf: smtp stream tcp nowait qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail -smtpd -

Best mailling format for large attachments

2000-05-03 Thread Steve Quezadas
I have a client that is very unwisely using his email server as a sort of FTP server where people are sending him very large attachments. His mailbox size is about 250 megabytes and he receives emails daily that are about 10 - 25 megabytes big (I told him not to do this and to simply use FTP

Setup of local delivery &fastforward (newbie question)

2000-05-03 Thread Mikhail Kuzminsky
Dear netters, I'm newbie in Qmail world. I've installed Qmail 1.03 & fastforward 0.51 under SGI O2/IRIX 6.3. But I didn't find in docs and FAQ an answers to few questions about local mail delivery. 1) Is it possible (and how) to setup Qmail and fastforward for work with /bin/mail

Re: system start script

2000-05-03 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Zhiliang Hu wrote: > > dd - Thank you! > > I assume it is inetd. However I moved qmail to be after inetd > it didn't get qmail started either upon reboot. > > BTW, I have following lines in the /etc/inetd.conf: > > smtp stream tcp nowait qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env

Re: Best mailling format for large attachments

2000-05-03 Thread markd
Certainly Maildir with qmail-pop3d will help here, though it should be noted that many clients don't cope well if a download exceeds a certain time such as the time between mailbox checks. Most of the pop servers that work on mbox format mailboxes have to scan the whole file searching for "^From

Re: Three questions...

2000-05-03 Thread Jeff Hayward
On Tue, 2 May 2000, John White wrote: Jeff, if you read into the statement just a bit, you'll realize that the boss is asking for something much worse: denying relaying from valid IPs which don't present the ISPs domain in the envelope sender. The sentence is ambiguous; it admits the p

RE: Three questions...

2000-05-03 Thread Jeff Hayward
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Jeroen ten Berge wrote: ??? I have the message ID's in my log ! I was referring to the message-id: header from the mail message, not the inode number that qmail uses. Sendmail logs the message-id: header as written in the mail message. I have sometimes wished qmail did

Re: system start script

2000-05-03 Thread Zhiliang Hu
> > BTW, I have following lines in the /etc/inetd.conf: > > > > smtp stream tcp nowait qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env tcp-env > > /var/qmail/bin/qmail -smtpd > > You don't have a space between qmail and -smtpd, do you? No space. Sorry, when I copied and pasted it into mail I left a spac

Delivers and retrieves...

2000-05-03 Thread Bolivar Diaz Galarza
My /var/qmail/rc file looks like this: #! /bin/sh exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward ./Maildir/' My /etc/skel looks like this Maildir - cur - new - tmp Mailbox mbox PROBLEM: Qmail delivers to the file Mailbox, and when a user checks his e-m

smtp-auth?

2000-05-03 Thread Russell Nelson
Is anyone using Krzysztof Dabrowski's cmd5checkpw with qmail-pop3d? Yes, I know that he didn't write it for that, he wrote it for smtp-auth. But it looks to me like he's reversed the password and the timestamp parameters to checkpassword. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.c

RE: Web front-end to mail service

2000-05-03 Thread Aled Treharne
> -Original Message- > From: Patrick Ohiomoba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 11:47 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Steffan Hoeke; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Web front-end to mail service > > Probably you've already gotten this response, but sqwebmail onl

Re: smtp-auth?

2000-05-03 Thread Russell Nelson
Russell Nelson writes: > Is anyone using Krzysztof Dabrowski's cmd5checkpw with qmail-pop3d? > Yes, I know that he didn't write it for that, he wrote it for > smtp-auth. But it looks to me like he's reversed the password and the > timestamp parameters to checkpassword. Answering my own quest

Re: smtp-auth?

2000-05-03 Thread listy-dyskusyjne Krzysztof Dabrowski
At 20:06 2000-05-03, Russell Nelson wrote: >Is anyone using Krzysztof Dabrowski's cmd5checkpw with qmail-pop3d? >Yes, I know that he didn't write it for that, he wrote it for >smtp-auth. But it looks to me like he's reversed the password and the >timestamp parameters to checkpassword. ;) Isn't i

RE: local delivery for 1 user only

2000-05-03 Thread Gregory J. Forkin
Tim-- I have a suggestion for you. But first, I think that you should look at the real implications of the request, that is if this starts for one employee you can be sure there will be others. Try a second installation of qmail on another box with the relaying turned off, allow it to route to

Does anyone write German and English

2000-05-03 Thread Gregory J. Forkin
Is anyone on this list capable of English to German translation of a technical paper approx. 7 pages in length. If so, email me off list. I can pay about $100 USD for it. Anyone who is fluent should whack this out in about 1.5 hours. Thanks Greg

Making progress

2000-05-03 Thread Bolivar Diaz Galarza
I have succesfully switch the incoming e-mails to use Maildir instead of Mailbox or mbox, my problem remaining is when a user retrieves his e-mail from a POP client, he gets no e-mail..which programs delivers e-mail to clients is it pop3d? I need to make qmail deliver whatever is in Maildir/n

RE: Making progress

2000-05-03 Thread Tim Hunter
I have a feeling I am not the only one confused. I assume you changed your default delivery method to ./Maildir/ which will put mails in your ./Maildir/new/ directory. If you are trying to retrieve mails from there now with pop, you need qmail-pop3d or any other program that can read /Maildir/'s

Problems using qmail on very large site

2000-05-03 Thread root
Hi everybody, I installed qmail (v. 1.03 running on Solaris 2.6 for x86 - JUST ! (without any patches)) with tcpwrapper ucspi-0.88 and multilog from daemontools package (v. 0.70) all them compiled with gcc 2.95.2 running in 4 machines PIII - 500Mhz with 256mb RAM. In my DNS I have smtp.ig.com.br

Re: Making progress

2000-05-03 Thread Bolivar Diaz Galarza
qmail-pop3d is installed in my computer, my problem is how do I configure it to deliver from Maildir instead of mbox (right now it works with mbox)? Thanks for replying... Bolivar, - Original Message - From: "Tim Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bolivar Diaz Galarza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup

2000-05-03 Thread Kins Orekhov
> > 1999-11-24 17:43:07.542160 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > > > > but matchup needs: > > > > 957284032.988038 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > Russ Allebury has a similar patch. Yes, I have tried that and it didn't work for me. Comments for tai64nfrac says: Expects the input stream

Re: local delivery for 1 user only

2000-05-03 Thread Mrs. Brisby
What you're asking is not very difficult -- especially if you use tcpservers. First however, it's important to note what your current network looks like. In the case of a local network that's firewalled to the internet, you can simply use RELAYCLIENT= and a shellscript . simply change your smt

Does Qmail handle mbx

2000-05-03 Thread Steve Quezadas
Any way to get qmail to handle mbx format? - Steve

redirecting some email

2000-05-03 Thread Jason Brooke
Is it possible to have qmail forward email destined to one address, to another address instead, if it contains certain file attachments based on file extension? jason

Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup

2000-05-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Kins Orekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, I have tried that and it didn't work for me. > Comments for tai64nfrac says: > > Expects the input stream to be a sequence of lines beginning with @ (1), a > timestamp in external TAI64N format, and a space. Replaces the @ and the > timesta

Correcting an error in a SQL statement

2000-05-03 Thread Steve Quezadas
Sometimes I write a SQL statement in MySQL that may encompass several lines (which ends in a semicolon of course). Anyway, let's say I wrote a line, pressed enter and realized I made a mistake. Is there any way to erase that previous line and retype it?

Best MySQL GUI

2000-05-03 Thread Steve Quezadas
What is the best mysql GUI for Linux in your opinion? I heard good things about Kmysql, but I don't want to try it and realize it sucks. Just wondering what your opinions on it. I am using Microsoft Access right now, but would prefer a Linux alternative. - Steve

RE: local delivery for 1 user only

2000-05-03 Thread Roger Merchberger
Rumor has it that Gregory J. Forkin may have mentioned these words: >Tim-- >I have a suggestion for you. But first, I think that you should look at the >real implications of the request, that is if this starts for one employee >you can be sure there will be others. I agree with Gregory on being

Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup

2000-05-03 Thread Kins Orekhov
> You've already run the logs through tai64nlocal. That converts the > TAI64 timestamp into human readable form. Don't do that. Leave the > multilog output alone and then run it through tai64nfrac (or > tai64nunix) and it will generate timestamps suitable for qmailanalog. Now, I'm really confused

Does Qmail handle mbx

2000-05-03 Thread Bob Rogers
From: "Steve Quezadas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 16:26:07 -0700 Any way to get qmail to handle mbx format? - Steve If this is "mbox" format, it's trivial (see "man dot-qmail"). If this is something else, we need a better reference.

Emergency with the queue

2000-05-03 Thread clifford thurber
Hello, I have a user who is spamming. Is there a way to stop qmail and delete everything from the queue? Thanks.

Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup

2000-05-03 Thread Kins Orekhov
> I've wrote a small awk-script to accomplish this, but it doesn't work with > big files on my machine (more then 440-445 lines), and I can't figure out > why (if someone has suggestions/recommendations, please, let me know): > > This script does the trick for me. Again, originally I was for such

Re: Emergency with the queue

2000-05-03 Thread Eric Cox
Why not just nuke the user? clifford thurber wrote: > Hello, > I have a user who is spamming. Is there a way to stop qmail and delete > everything from the queue? Thanks. -- NEEDHAM'S ELECTRONICS Device Programmers (916) 924-8037 (Voice) (916) 924-8065 (Fax) 4630 Beloit Drive, #20 Sacramento, C

Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup

2000-05-03 Thread Peter Samuel
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Kins Orekhov wrote: > > You've already run the logs through tai64nlocal. That converts the > > TAI64 timestamp into human readable form. Don't do that. Leave the > > multilog output alone and then run it through tai64nfrac (or > > tai64nunix) and it will generate timestamps su

RE: Does Qmail handle mbx

2000-05-03 Thread David Harris
mbx is the name of a format that UW-IMAP supports. It's an all-messages-in-one-file database format file. It's not as ugly as mbox where all the messages are concatenated together (which requires so much re-organization when doing IMAP access), but the file is really a kind of database with the m

Re: Newbie setting up aliases

2000-05-03 Thread bob
Dave Sill wrote: > bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >What I really mean is I can't send out mail remotely... say to my > >mother-in-law for instance. > > Right, and you think that's a *problem*? :-) > > But seriously, what happens when you try to send remote mail? What Do > The Logs Say(tm)? >

Re: Newbie setting up aliases

2000-05-03 Thread bobski
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 08:57:38AM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: > bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >What I really mean is I can't send out mail remotely... say to my > >mother-in-law for instance. > > Right, and you think that's a *problem*? :-) > > But seriously, what happens when you try to send

Mental torture

2000-05-03 Thread Isaiah Chua
hi folks,   I've installed qMail for my office server and it runs fine - delivers mails and all that jazz. However, I'm getting only external mails out, and internal mails to users' mailboxes seem to die. Using /var/qmail/bin/makemaildir, I created a Maildir for myself in my home dir /home/i

No retry and no bounce?

2000-05-03 Thread Yuan P Li
Hi, How can I setup email to ignore all messages that cannot be delivered, i.e., even not to bother the re-delievery and bounce? Thank you for help. Sincerely, Peter Li

Re: No retry and no bounce?

2000-05-03 Thread Adam McKenna
I suppose you could set queuelifetime to 1 second. This will fail permanently if delivery fails on the second delivery (or possibly the first, depending on how busy your machine is.) If you want to kill every email on the first deferral you will need to write a patch. --Adam On Wed, May 03, 20

Re: Mental torture

2000-05-03 Thread Peter Samuel
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Isaiah Chua wrote: > hi folks, > > I've installed qMail for my office server and it runs fine - delivers mails and all >that jazz. However, I'm getting only external mails out, and internal mails to users' >mailboxes seem to die. Using /var/qmail/bin/makemaildir, I created

Re: Mental torture

2000-05-03 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 02:16:22PM +1000, Peter Samuel wrote: > On Thu, 4 May 2000, Isaiah Chua wrote: > > > hi folks, > > > > I've installed qMail for my office server and it runs fine - delivers mails and >all that jazz. However, I'm getting only external mails out, and internal mails to >us

Re: Mental torture

2000-05-03 Thread Peter Samuel
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Adam McKenna wrote: > On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 02:16:22PM +1000, Peter Samuel wrote: > > On Thu, 4 May 2000, Isaiah Chua wrote: > > > > > hi folks, > > > > > > I've installed qMail for my office server and it runs fine - delivers mails and >all that jazz. However, I'm gettin

Re: Mental torture

2000-05-03 Thread Adam McKenna
Oh, sorry.. I misread. I thought you said "use qmaild".. --Adam On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 02:29:23PM +1000, Peter Samuel wrote: > On Thu, 4 May 2000, Adam McKenna wrote: > > > On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 02:16:22PM +1000, Peter Samuel wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 May 2000, Isaiah Chua wrote: > > > > >

Another question on mailboxes

2000-05-03 Thread Isaiah Chua
hi folks,   I keep getting this error message when trying to send mails to my new qmail server at the office:   Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.twc-sg.com.I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it

Re: Problems using qmail on very large site

2000-05-03 Thread markd
> The problem is the fact that I'm having too much defunct process. > Usually I have between 350-500 process running by machine. From that, > normally I have between 90-120 defunct process per machine. Do they stay forever, or do they go away? Which qmail process is the parent? I have seen Sol

what does this mean in my logfile?

2000-05-03 Thread Isaiah Chua
Anyone knows what this means and if there's any corrective action I should take?   May  4 13:43:09 mail qmail: 957418989.903703 delivery 518: deferral: Uh-oh:_.qmail_has_file_delivery_but_has_x_bit_set._(#4.7.0)/   Thanks!     Best regards,   Isaiah ChuaOfficial Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM Ni

Re: what does this mean in my logfile?

2000-05-03 Thread Jason Brooke
It means it has the execute bit set. If you do chmod 600 .qmail-whatever it will probably be fine That will make the file readable and writeable by it's owner, with no permissions for anyone else. You may want to find a reference on basic unix file system permissions. jason > Anyone knows what