Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

You were likely still some way from a blow out - you can get the tire down to the puncture strip (often blue in color) and run on that for some time - it works like a boot. When that wears out, the resultant flatting of the tire is not always too dramatic, as the hole that forms in the tire is

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Joe, i dont mean to answer for grant, and am not at all certain there's any common thread, but thought this news story from today was interesting - about warren buffett signaling the "death of retail." Seems that even the businesses that once killed the other businesses are struggling to stay al

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Yes Bill you did offer an explanation, jerk, 19 people before me asking the same question or derivation of. You did say no one should buy from anywhere that's rude to you. You did say you didn't approve. Then you offered how I may have asked the question with in your opinion perhaps a better more

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

1000 Patrick Moores means 1000 gears! (Joke ignores that he has a few bikes.) Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 15, 2017, at 8:09 PM, "'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch" > wrote: > > A thousand Patrick Moores...now that's something to think about. But of > course, there is only the one, the

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

A thousand Patrick Moores...now that's something to think about. But of course, there is only the one, the incomparable Patrick Moore;^) On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 6:56:55 PM UTC-5, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > Nobody here keeps score, but for the record...if we had a thousand Patrick >

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Ryan wrote "... eloquent in praise of your customs...and you're usually not rude either". Since I've been reading this list from around 2008 or so, Patrick Moore has always been most eloquent and a gentleman. IanA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Grant: What is The Thing that has changed recently? Is it changing tastes in bicycles; less interest in bikes overall; ebikes; or simply the Amazon Effect? Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubs

Re: [RBW] Your S24O tent recommendation

I like the Hennessey Hammock. The bubble foil insulation is probably quiet but the space blanket is definitely noises. In warm weather I bring only a bag. In cooler weather I bring a foam pad for extra insulation. I also have the spitfire tent. If I could do it again, I'd try to find something

[RBW] Bike Snob and helmets; podcast (from his today's post)

https://soundcloud.com/justgobike/episode-5-bike-snobs-and-bacon-lovers Interesting. His judgments or prejudices are similar to my own. Patrick Moore, who believes that a discounted Nashbar retro-Molteni cap indubitably protects his head, in ABQ, NM - and wishes he'd saved that old Te-ve Blad jer

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Hugh I don't know why both you and Christopher Murray seem to think that I approve with how you were mistreated at your bike shop. I said I disapprove of how you were treated. I said it was unfair to you. I don't think anyone should buy anything anywhere where they are treated rudely and I

Re: [RBW] Your S24O tent recommendation

I toured extensively with the Eureka Spitfire II. It was roomy and the double doors are nice, but it's not freestanding and has to be pegged in to stay upright. I wore mine out over the course of two years, but next time I'd rather out the money toward an Akto. IanA. -- You received this me

Re: [RBW] Your S24O tent recommendation

I really like the Eureka Spitfire 2. Not super light, but cheap, simple, and easy to set up. Roomy, too. It can actually fit two adults, or 6'3" me and two of my elementary age kids. Every time I use this tent, I'm pleased with it. Eric Who didn't use his tent at all last year, but will do better

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

My favorite personal story about buying from Riv is from last year when I decided to move my $1300 CLEM pre-order cash into a more expensive Appaloosa. Grant walked in while I was in the process of paying Roman and said (from the kitchen), "Are you sure you can afford it, Joe?" 'Sure. Kinda!'

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

On Feb 15, 2017 10:55 AM, "Bill Lindsay" wrote: Hugh pointed out something he does not understand: " what I don't get is when you ask a retailer how much they can get a White Industries hub for you? And they give you negative attitude for even asking the question" Hugh went on to explain: " I

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

yeah...patrick I don't think you have to apologise :) And you've been eloquent in praise of your customs...and you're usually not rude either On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 6:07:38 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Except you'd long since have driven me from your customer database in > disg

[RBW] Re: Your S24O tent recommendation

For S24Os & short, casual tours: whatever single person tent is on sale at the REI outlet online. However, for longer tours requiring more gear, weight & size become important, Then you need to really analyze your personal needs for the type of environment where you're going, and that gets

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Except you'd long since have driven me from your customer database in disgust and exasperation at my excessively weird taste in customs and clothing. (When we were discussing one of my 26" wheel customs, long ago, I said, brightly:"I'll post this to the list!!!" Grant replied, "Don't you dare.") G

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Nobody here keeps score, but for the record...if we had a thousand Patrick Moores, we'd be fat and gorgeous. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > One -- I won't say problem, but one factor affecting a decision to buy > from Rivendell or from another online vendor or from a LBS

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

One -- I won't say problem, but one factor affecting a decision to buy from Rivendell or from another online vendor or from a LBS or used or whatever, is the "style" of merchandise. I'm fortunately at the time of life and at the period in my bike tastes that I have most of what I want, and my needs

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

No matter how often we discuss this topic of right livelihood -- maybe once a year? -- I always find it interesting. By and large, I try to buy merchandise from Rivendell and to buy labor from my LBS. Once in a while, I'll buy an item from an online merchant, particularly if, per Grant's post

Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

Try that with a 19-20 mm tire pumped to 120 psi and an almost instantaneous blowout. Good times! I was lucky; I had slowed enough that I was able to catch it. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > ... I've had several HOLY MOLY!! moments when I made a 90 degree turn not > re

[RBW] Re: Your S24O tent recommendation

For a while I was more concerned with packed size rather than weight. I care less about the overall weight I'm carrying on the bike as I am about the limited amount of space available (and how that is distributed throughout rear and front, high and low bags) on the bike. Lightweight or not, ten

Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

On 02/15/2017 04:52 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: The reason Saint Sheldon recommends that is that a flat rear tire almost never is dangerous. Whereas a front flat can easily cause a crash, and can auger you right into the ground. It happened to me once. And I've had several HOLY MOLY!! moments

Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

You are enjoying BORROWED TIME. You are a DAREDEVIL, laughing in the face of DANGER! HA! On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 2:05:31 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote: > > But Bill, it was so much more thrilling when I was on the brink of > disaster. Can't we say it was at least a medium risk? -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: 2010 Wisconsin built Hillborne

Hi Nash, The tt: 57.5cm and yes it's a 650-b configuration. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

ON LBS or ONLINE or combo: Not all ONLINERS are alike. At one extreme there is the late-20s guy who never left the house or ramped up his resume, but he got into bikes, and cleared the hurdles to getting a reseller's permit. He eats and sleeps iwhether or not he sells anything, but he likes to st

Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

But Bill, it was so much more thrilling when I was on the brink of disaster. Can't we say it was at least a medium risk? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

The reason Saint Sheldon recommends that is that a flat rear tire almost never is dangerous. If we took a poll and counted up the total number of rear flats we have cumulatively experienced, it would be a big number. Let's put that in the denominator. Now, of those rear flats, let's take ano

[RBW] Re: Your S24O tent recommendation

Thanks, friends. "Riding there" is the new part of this for me. We started in a Sears tent, upgraded to a nice Eureka for 10yrs, got a second Eureka when daughters needed some space, then went along with a pop-up camper to preserve unity. Itching to go back to a tent, and S24O is an ideal way.

Re: [RBW] Re: And now, the annual Betty Foy Valentine thread!

Stopped at the Love Shack LOL "FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS RIDE JUNK " On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Leah Peterson wrote: > Jon, oh SWOON!!! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 15, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Jon Dukeman wrote: > > Hearts and mixtes everywhere > > On Feb 15, 2017 2:21 PM, "LeahFoy"

Re: [RBW] Re: And now, the annual Betty Foy Valentine thread!

Jon, oh SWOON!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 15, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Jon Dukeman wrote: > > Hearts and mixtes everywhere > >> On Feb 15, 2017 2:21 PM, "LeahFoy" wrote: >> Thanks, all! I do so love the romantic look of a mixte. I feel like Riv is >> having a mixte revolution. In all honestly L

Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

Regarding index shifting for the Clem, Microshift makes thumb shifters, or he could use Shimano MTB trigger shifters. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Decent children's bikes last forever. The problem is that the dimestore > bikes (my current contemptuous name for the big

Re: [RBW] Snowy Ride Report

Fun! I wish others would post video of their rides, too. I know Eric Norris does for norcal rides; others in other parts of the country? We've had rather generous precipitation here in ABQ, NM, for a high desert climate, but it's been so damned warm that it's all fallen as rain. The one week of hi

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Bill Bill I was replying to your post. I agree that you did not say it was ok to be impolite but disagree that you didn't suggest it was ok or at least understandable given the employee's previous 19 experiences. Giving advice for how Hugh could have handled it differently shifts blame from th

Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

Decent children's bikes last forever. The problem is that the dimestore bikes (my current contemptuous name for the big box store ersatz bicycle things) have gotten cheaper and cheaper and are junk. My father bought me a JC Higgins with cantilever frame, coaster brake, white rims, and 24" wheels f

[RBW] Re: And now, the annual Betty Foy Valentine thread!

Thanks, all! I do so love the romantic look of a mixte. I feel like Riv is having a mixte revolution. In all honestly Les, I like the idea of Cheviut name/logo better than the Bets, and would have liked a Chev had it existed when I was making my Riv purchase. You enjoy that Chev and help encoura

[RBW] Re: Your S24O tent recommendation

Hilleberg the Tentmaker's Akto. Hands down. Should you ever need shelter in any conditions this tent will give it. 3.7 pounds is a small price to pay for that. http://us.hilleberg.com/EN/tent/red-label-tents/akto/ At a full pound less, the Enan is the same design with lighter weight materials.

[RBW] Re: And now, the annual Betty Foy Valentine thread!

Oh, <3 the Yves!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rb

Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

I don't know whether to feel proud or embarrassed about that tire! On the one hand, I wrung out every last drop. On the other hand, geez, I'd rather pay for new tires than hospital bills! I was doing my make-up this morning and imagining how I might look missing half my teeth. That tire never di

[RBW] Re: Snowy Ride Report

I'm glad you all liked the video! I shot it with a GoPro on a selfie stick bungeed to the back of the nitto rack! I'm definitely up for a beer meetup! M -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and st

[RBW] Your S24O tent recommendation

Hi Ben, I have been using a Hennesey hammock for 15 years. They are great for bike camping. There are a lot of camping hammocks now. For a tent I have a Eureka Zeus 2 EXO that packs small and light, sets up quickly and has a small vestibule. As Bill said (and Grant Petersen too), do not get hung

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Christopher Murray I agree with you. Who suggested that it is OK to be impolite? You sound like you are replying to my post. Let me quote my own post: *"You definitely didn't deserve to get attitude from the salesperson, and you should not buy from people who give you attitude"* That was me

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Ha! No way. I'm the customer and any store employee should treat me in a polite and respectful manner. It's not my problem what the 19 people before me did and to suggest otherwise is laughable. I've worked more than my share of retail. It's not that difficult to be polite-- let's not act like i

Re: [RBW] Re: Your S24O tent recommendation

Another vote for Big Agnes, I have a very light, very roomy 3 person tent, about 4 lbs. the comfort level makes up for the extra weight, especially on a short ride. I did carry it for last years Great Divide ride. Steve On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:47 PM drew wrote: > i like my nemo gogo le for bik

Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

Sheldon recommends exactly what Patrick Moore described. /Well-meaning cyclists, even some mechanics who don't know any better, sometimes try to deal with this by swapping tires, putting the less worn front tire on the back wheel, and moving the worn-but-usable rear tire to the front.

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Yes, Bob, you are right. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to guilt people for shopping online. I do it a TON. I also buy and sell a lot of second hand stuff on the lists, which I also think it great. Bill On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 11:51:05 AM UTC-8, Bob K. wrote: > > Agreed on a

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Earning the money can already be enough of headache. I'm not going to give myself a headache doing the fun part, spending it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Agreed on all counts, Bill. Patronizing LBSs is fun, and I love the connection with owners and workers. It feels good to support real people. But it's not always that easy for me. I tinker with my bikes because it's fun, and I enjoy it, not because I *need *to. Can I always afford to pay my LBS--w

[RBW] Re: And now, the annual Betty Foy Valentine thread!

Yves Gomez wants to be counted on Valentine's Day, too! On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 11:45:22 AM UTC-8, Les Lammers wrote: > > Living on the edge with that tire

[RBW] Re: And now, the annual Betty Foy Valentine thread!

Living on the edge with that tire. I have a Cheviut because I'm not manly enough for a Betty Foy. :-) On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 2:30:29 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > And you ARE the poster girl for mixtes! That rear tire is a definite sign > that the Bets is well-loved and well-us

[RBW] Re: And now, the annual Betty Foy Valentine thread!

And you ARE the poster girl for mixtes! That rear tire is a definite sign that the Bets is well-loved and well-used. Just don't let the next tire get that bald!. Cute dog...so well-behaved! On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 8:25:27 AM UTC-6, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado wrote: > > > Great po

[RBW] Your S24O tent recommendation

I really like my Big Agnes Fly Creek HV UL2. The HV models have steeper wall structures for more room inside. It's a great one person tent at just over two pounds but also works with two people if you're ok with being cozy. I really want to try a TarpTent Moment DW. MUSA goodness, relatively i

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

I have tried ordering special parts from my LBSand I'm not trying to get a deal and if the effort they expend to order is part of the price, I'm fine with that. Waiting several weeks for a part from my LBS on the other hand is sometimes not OK if I can get it online in a week. It depends on

[RBW] Re: Your S24O tent recommendation

forgot to say that i also like the big agnes copper spur UL1 for more of a full tent feeling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun

Re: [RBW] Your S24O tent recommendation

Oooh, those Hennesy Hammocks look well thought-out. And their Double Bubble pad looks like an efficient insulation solution. Although I imagine that it makes crinkly noises when you roll around... On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:42 AM,

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Hugh pointed out something he does not understand: " what I don't get is when you ask a retailer how much they can get a White Industries hub for you? And they give you negative attitude for even asking the question" Hugh went on to explain: " I was ready to just have them order the part regar

[RBW] Re: Your S24O tent recommendation

i like my nemo gogo le for bike stuff. not quite a full tent, but big enough. has no poles and packs down super small in a compression sack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Your S24O tent recommendation

Choosing S24O gear is much more about you than it is about gear. On an S24O, you can go totally hobo-style, or you can go full ultralight backpacker style, or anything in between. Do you enjoy geeking out about gear, and spending top dollar on optimal everything? Cool! Do that. Do you like

Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

The great Sheldon Brown recommends rotating tires when the rear tire is replaced: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html --Eric N campyonly...@me.com www.CampyOnly.com Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com @Campyonlyguy > On Feb 15, 2017, at 8:59

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

I remember when I first got into bikes I befriended the owner of my local LBS. I think the shop was under a year old at the time. The owner was a great guy and was very patient with me, a new cyclist. One time I came in with new parts on my bike that I mentioned I bought online. He kindly and po

[RBW] Re: Only three more mountain mixtes remain....

I picked mine up and just need to add brakes and fine tune it. My neighborhood is flat so I rode it a bit yesterday evening. It's a very nimble and light riding bike so far. I can't wait to get out and get a good couple rides on it. Ray Vallejo CA -- You received this message because you ar

Re: [RBW] Your S24O tent recommendation

If you know you'll be in spots that will support a hammock, and allow it, I recommend a Hennessy Hammock https://hennessyhammock.com/ - which is really more like a suspended tent than a traditional hammock. I have an Explorer Deluxe Asym Zip model, and it's really changed camping for me - as I get

Re: [RBW] Re: 2010 Wisconsin built Hillborne

What is the top tube length? Can't find the geometry. Also, this is 650b, correct? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubs

Re: [RBW] Your S24O tent recommendation

Light weight is a virtue when bike camping. A small, light shelter will take up less cargo weight and space. But you need to decide how light is too light, e.g. what comfort features are desired. Bivy sacks are about the ultimate in light weight; they're not much more than a cocoon for your body

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

I agree. I get that running a bike store is hard work and the margin's are tough, what I don't get is when you ask a retailer how much they can get a White Industries hub for you? And they give you negative attitude for even asking the question. In this case I ended up getting the hub from a euro

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

A shitty attitude is a damn' good way to go out of business in the bike retail business! Fortunately (at least for me in my area, ABQ, NM) there are some very good shops near me: Fat Tire and Stevie's to name the 2 best, and High Desert is OK if you get good with the owners. >From my own experienc

[RBW] Your S24O tent recommendation

State parks within 30 miles on 3 compass points, and I have yet to do an S24O. This is my year. What tent do you recommend, please? And thank you, Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop r

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:37 AM, Hugh Smitham wrote: > Been there done that, meaning this type of discussion has popped up before > and am glad to see a huge brouhaha hasn't developed. Personally Glen thanks > for the heads up I bought two pair a silver pair for my A. Homer a bike > which I paid

[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

Thank you for the behind the curtain explanation. On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 10:16:32 AM UTC-8, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote: > > Interesting update regarding VP Components. As of late we, as a shop, > have been pretty diligent about helping brands police their MAP > (Ma

Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

Time for a new one! One recommended practice is to rotate the relatively fresh front tire to the rear, and put the new one on the front, thus ensuring that the tire whose condition is most important to safety is always at the front. But good for you for getting in all those miles! On Tue, Feb 14,

[RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

They certainly do make nice tires...but I've found the 26 X 1.5'' mclure pass not nearly as durable as the Paselas w Tourguard and kevlar bead (3 flats last summer)... they replaced. I know you have a 650B wheel. Durability is something you may want to consider...the 650B Paselas I have on my

[RBW] Re: And now, the annual Betty Foy Valentine thread!

Great post Leah, My dogs would never sit still or ride on a bike. Mixte bikes are the Best!!! Jon > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw

[RBW] Re: Only three more mountain mixtes remain....

just got my frame in last night. framesaved and waiting for it to dry. hopefully built up in a couple of days On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 9:50:50 AM UTC-5, masmojo wrote: > > Well, I just got the frame a few days ago,building has begun, but nothing > really to see quite yet. > There are a

[RBW] And now, the annual Betty Foy Valentine thread!

Oh I am a sucker for furry fluffy four legged friends too☺ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To