Newb here, but long time Rivendell lurker. Chatted to Will today about a
Platypus and he mentioned saddle height. My BPH is 83cm (self measured -
pretty sure it was to bone but maybe another cm?). Currently riding an
ebike, which feels like driving an automatic only worse, so I'm not sure
the s
Hi all:
One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The
RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The
measurement is made from center of the cranks (the spindle of the
bottom bracket) to the top of the saddle.
Here are the questions. How many of you use t
I just took delivery of a new (non-Riv) bike and am dialing in the fit. I’m
a little worried that the frame is too big for me, since I only have maybe
2” standover, which seems tight for a gravel bike.
So I went out and measured the saddle height on my Hunq (which is a size
62). It came in at a
I'm curious how many here find that Grant's "rule" about saddle height
being 10-11cm lower than PBH to be true for them. My PBH is 86cm and for
the longest time, ran my saddle at 75cm from the center of the cranks.
Lately, I switched from clipless pedals to flats, and now that the weather
is wa
As you know, what GP summizes as a starting point for saddle height is based on
his experience and assumptions. Of course, we all have our own. I don't think
he means it as the one and only way, just his experience and he's passing it
along.
Like all fit questions, the variables are infinite,
Not true for me, I'm losing about 13 from my pbh, with 178 cranks.
-Kai
BK NY
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My PBH is 95 and I run my saddles (180/178 cranks) at 85. On my Joe, I use
Pedaling Innovations long pedals and push my foot further forward. The saddle
on that one is at 84. (Jury still out on the overall value of the pedals, but I
no longer suffer excruciating hot foot on long rides, so that a
Jay LePree
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 6:46:17 AM
Subject: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question
Hi all:
The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11.
How many of you use this formula?
Do youadjust it if you place the saddle all the way back on its rails
On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Jay LePree wrote:
Hi all:
One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The
RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11.
There's a lot of variation in this and a lot of factors (e.g., how
far your saddle is pushed back), wheth
hen see how your numbers compare. You can of
> course just try the riv suggestions and see how they go, and tweak from
> there. small increments though regardless.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> From: Jay LePree
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Sent: Tue, April
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> From: Jay LePree
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 6:46:17 AM
> Subject: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question
>
> Hi all:
>
> The RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11.
>
> How many of you use this formula?
>From the other side of the range... My PBH is 86 but a SH somewhere
around 72.5-73cm works best for me. I always measure on the centerline
even though I'm one of those long femured people who slides the saddle
back, even with 71.5 degree SA's. I have had bike fitting done as
well and their recomm
I believe from my experience that finding the right height, horizontal
position and tilt for a saddle is a matter of personal experience and
preference, with rules being simply a more convenient starting point than,
say, starting with your saddle resting on the top tube.
So the question becomes: h
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Jay LePree wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The
> RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The
> measurement is made from center of the cranks (the spindle of the
> bottom bracket) to the top
It worked perfectly for me; 89.2 PBH and settled on a saddle height of
79.3.
On Apr 20, 5:46 am, Jay LePree wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The
> RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The
> measurement is made from cent
Works well for me:
PBH: 89cm, Saddle Height 79cm.
If I go through all the "LeMond formulas" (which I believe came from a
French cycling team he road for early on) I end up at 79cm.
Angus
On Apr 20, 6:46 am, Jay LePree wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> One of the things I always wanted to know but was afra
PBH: 91cm, SH: 80cm.
I have four bikes and the saddle is at the same height on all of them.
I ride two of the bikes with platform pedals and two with SPDs. Like
others have said, the RBW system is a great starting place and get
definitely get you close to where you want to be. Good luck.
--mike
PBH minus 10, measured to the top of the saddle works great for me.
Jim D. Massachusetts
--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Jay LePree wrote:
From: Jay LePree
Subject: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question
To: "RBW Owners Bunch"
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 7:46 AM
Hi all:
One of the thing
Jim D. Massachusetts
>
> --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Jay LePree wrote:
>
> From: Jay LePree
> Subject: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch"
> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 7:46 AM
>
> Hi all:
>
> One of the things I always wanted to
PBH=94 cm, SH=83.5 cm at point of sit bones on B17 slammed all the way
back on seat post on my Sam Hill.
I like to use the method of putting the heels of your bare feet on the
pedals and setting seat height when your leg is fully extended at 6:00
position. For me, this works out to PBH- 10-11 cm
pbh: 91.5
saddle height: currently 83cm
I tend to move my saddle height around between 83cm-84cm depending on
how my knees are feeling. Last year, I was recovering from a broken
leg, and I had to lower it a bit to 83cm.
>How many of you use this formula?
Not me. I wasn't aware of it. My diffe
On Apr 20, 10:09 am, RM wrote:
> My PBH: 87cm, SH: 76cm. 11cm difference
>
> My saddle height was established 10 years ago during two training camps and
> bike fits at the Boulder Center for Sports Medicine with Dr Andy Pruitt and
> has been spot on for my comfort ever since. There is no black m
On Apr 21, 12:14 am, RM wrote:
> On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, happyriding wrote:
>
Hi,
Thanks for the response.
> > On Apr 20, 10:09 am, RM wrote:
> Besides establishing a better position on the bike for increasing my power
> output ability, I also came away no longer suffering from shoulder
Please note the typo in the subject heading - I am referring to PBH (pubic bone height) and not BPH (benign prostatic hypertrophy) which is another, separate factor of potential interest to bike riding men of a certain age…Sent from my Atari 400On Dec 12, 2022, at 9:49 AM, Jay Lonner wrote:I just
Standover is generally a non-issue and should be of limited consideration
for fit purposes, all things being equal.
I do believe your saddle height has been very low based on the fact that I
have an 83cm PBH and run a height of 72cm. The Riv guidance looks to be
within expected range.
General
If you put the heel of your foot on the pedal and rotate it to the furthest
point away from you, you should be just about locked out. When you then put
the ball of your foot on the pedal like you normally ride, you will be just
shy of full extension which should be a good ball park. You want th
I'm about your same size (36"/91cm PBH), but I run a 32"/81cm saddle height
(bottom bracket center to top of my (of course) level saddle). I couldn't
imagine pedaling with my saddle 6cm lower.
When I played around with mid foot pedaling, I found I had to drop my
saddle, but less than an inch.
Eri
Jay, I noticed your mention of the Pedaling Innovations Catalyst pedal. If you are using a mid-foot position on your pedals ( I do) you may need to adjust your saddle down 2-3 cm. I discovered this on my own then confirmed it with Pedaling Innovations. For this and other reasons I do not favor the
I find a more slack seat tube I run my saddle a bit lower than a steeper
counterpart.
Ride whatever is comfortable. Don't worry too much about stand over. French
fit looks great.
On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:59:19 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
> Jay, I noticed your mention of the P
Thanks (thank you, thank you) for bringing attention to the the Catalyst
pedal - I think it will be a godsend for me. I deal with an injury related
neuropathy in my left calf muscle which prevents me from doing things like
a tippy toe on that side. Had to sell my pristine manual ‘07 Honda S200
Whoops, that's 4 *centimeters* ...
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:13 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> I agree that rules of thumb are only starting points. The heel-on-pedal at
> max leg extension puts my saddle a good 3 cm too low as I like a lot of leg
> extension and tend to pedal toe-down. But it's a go
I agree that rules of thumb are only starting points. The heel-on-pedal at
max leg extension puts my saddle a good 3 cm too low as I like a lot of leg
extension and tend to pedal toe-down. But it's a good starting point.
And get your saddle set back to where it is comfortable before doing
anything
I am not very flexible. Even when I was young, before I hit my growth
spurt, touching my toes was difficult at best. I have a 92 PBH and run my
saddle around 78 cm. Anything higher and I feel like I am reaching for the
pedal. I usually just get it in the ballpark and adjust it if I start to
So here’s a 3-month followup for those interested. Brief recap: I was querying the list about the ~18 cm difference between my 93 cm PBH and 75 cm saddle height, which is at odds with the recommended ~10-11 cm.First off, I decided to really make sure that I was measuring my PBH accurately. My prio
Chris, it works for me, a pbh of 91 and a saddle height of 81, most of my
riding is in Shimano or Chaco sandals, all on platform pedals. Steve
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:20 PM Christopher Cote <
christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm curious how many here find that Grant's "rule" about sadd
Christopher: any saddle height rule is only a "rule of thumb." It's a
starting point, like KOPS. Measure per Grant or whomever; ride; adjust.
Patrick Moore, who has recently very slightly reduced his saddle setback
over the center of the bb spindle.
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Christopher Co
I prefer the heel on pedal method plus a few hairs up. I found Riv's
recomendation of pbh -10 or 11 put me a tad high. Always felt like I was
reaching for the pedals and my toes were pointed down to much for my taste. I
prefer a flatter foot while pedaling. I end up around 72.5-73 with a 85 cm p
My PBH: 87cm, SH: 76cm. 11cm difference
My saddle height was established 10 years ago during two training camps and
bike fits at the Boulder Center for Sports Medicine with Dr Andy Pruitt and has
been spot on for my comfort ever since. There is no black magic to Rivendell's
fit formula, it's ab
On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, happyriding wrote:
> On Apr 20, 10:09 am, RM wrote:
>> My PBH: 87cm, SH: 76cm. 11cm difference
>>
>> My saddle height was established 10 years ago during two training camps and
>> bike fits at the Boulder Center for Sports Medicine with Dr Andy Pruitt and
>> has b
The springs aren't very springy, set it the same.
-Kai
BK NY
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