Re: Had enough

2003-07-14 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 10:49:38AM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: On Friday 11 July 2003 03:50, T. Ribbrock wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: snip At work, I use Mozilla 1.4. So far, I haven't had any serious problems with any pages, short of the fact that I haven's

Re: Had enough

2003-07-12 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
On Thursday 10 July 2003 21:01, Ed Wilts wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 06:32:39PM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Doesn't Mozilla support IMAP? I know it supports POP3 (secure and insecure) on multiple ports. It's easy to configure, too I've

Re: Had enough

2003-07-12 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
On Friday 11 July 2003 03:50, T. Ribbrock wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: snip At work, I use Mozilla 1.4. So far, I haven't had any serious problems with any pages, short of the fact that I haven's installed a flash player yet (installer fails). Cheerio, Thomas

Re: Had enough

2003-07-12 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
On Thursday 10 July 2003 14:48, Edward Croft wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: snip Hmmm, while I can understand why 'you' may not want HTML, there are a lot of people who do like it. They feel they have more freedom to dress up their emails, plus they can get online

Re: Had enough

2003-07-12 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 10:48:39AM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 21:01, Ed Wilts wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 06:32:39PM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Doesn't Mozilla support IMAP? I know it supports POP3 (secure

Re: Had enough

2003-07-12 Thread John Nichel
Ed Wilts wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 10:48:39AM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 21:01, Ed Wilts wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 06:32:39PM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Doesn't Mozilla support IMAP? I know it supports

Re: Had enough

2003-07-12 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
On Saturday 12 July 2003 11:06, Ed Wilts wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 10:48:39AM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 21:01, Ed Wilts wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at

Re: Had enough

2003-07-12 Thread Bret Hughes
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 22:32, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: On Saturday 12 July 2003 11:06, Ed Wilts wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 10:48:39AM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: snip Real world reality again. Life sucks don't it? Their ISP starter

Re: Had enough

2003-07-12 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
On Saturday 12 July 2003 23:02, Bret Hughes wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: snip I can snail mail them Mozilla, OpenOffice, and pretty much anything else you think they would need. -- and way faster that a dl of any of them. Probably faster than the time it takes

Re: Had enough

2003-07-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 06:28:54PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:15:56PM +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: Well, mutt works nicely with IMAP under cygwin... ;-) My wife and I have been married for just about 25 years, and if I want to live to see 26, I won't give her mutt under

Re: Had enough

2003-07-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:01:38PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: I've done a lot of work with mozilla and netscape, but unfortunately, on Windows, nothing touches IE. Too many webmasters assume IE and won't work properly with anything else. [...] At work, I use Mozilla 1.4. So far, I haven't had any

Re: Had enough [OT]

2003-07-11 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:14:20 +0200 Leonard den Ottolander [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Hi Benjamin, I tried pegasus mail before, but when I tried it, it didn't understand imap/tls or smtp/tls. Still using Pegasus 3, which doesn't support IMAP yet, so I can't comment on that issue.

Re: Had enough [OT]

2003-07-11 Thread Rodolfo Canet-Castello
El vie, 11-07-2003 a las 12:37, Michael Scottaline escribió: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:14:20 +0200 Leonard den Ottolander [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Hi Benjamin, I tried pegasus mail before, but when I tried it, it didn't understand imap/tls or smtp/tls. Still using Pegasus

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread emgaron
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 02:29:56PM -0500, Stephen Smith wrote: ok! click on tools - options - send - and take the check out of reply int he format message was sent in Hope that helps everyone else who was wondering also. No. There's no send under Tools - Options in the Outhouse I have on

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread emgaron
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 10:53:01PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: We are drifting slightly off topic here, but if you need a decent mailer under Windows you should try Pegasus mail (http://www.pmail.com). It's the main reason I still keep rebooting between Windows and Linux on this

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread Leonard den Ottolander
Hi Reuben, Are you saying you're booting to Windows to get a decent mail client? I expressed myself a little poorly. I actually ment to say two things: 1) If you need a decent mail program under Windows please drop Outlook (Express) and use Pegasus Mail. Very nice program, no problem with

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread Benjamin J. Weiss
. :( - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:03 AM Subject: Re: Had enough On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 10:53:01PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: We are drifting slightly off topic here, but if you need a decent mailer under

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 10:00:39AM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: I tried pegasus mail before, but when I tried it, it didn't understand imap/tls or smtp/tls. So far, the only windows client I've found that does these two correctly is outlook/outlook epxress. Which is too bad, because I

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread R. McFarlane
At 08:00 AM 7/10/2003, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote : I tried pegasus mail before, but when I tried it, it didn't understand imap/tls or smtp/tls. So far, the only windows client I've found that does these two correctly is outlook/outlook epxress. Which is too bad, because I have to use windows here

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread Andrew Schott
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 14:51, Keith Morse wrote: Also, I've heard that this can be manipulated by the Exchange server (if you're using one) to always do email via html no matter what your client is set to do. Very true. I was actually questioned by the CEO at my previous company because I

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread Edward Croft
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:11, Andrew Schott wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 14:51, Keith Morse wrote: Also, I've heard that this can be manipulated by the Exchange server (if you're using one) to always do email via html no matter what your client is set to do. Very true. I was actually

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 12:11:40PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: I've tried a ton of Windows e-mail packages, and most really suck at imap. Eudora, surprisingly enough, is great at pop but sucks at imap. [...] Well, mutt works nicely with IMAP under cygwin... ;-) Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread Leonard den Ottolander
Hi Benjamin, I tried pegasus mail before, but when I tried it, it didn't understand imap/tls or smtp/tls. Still using Pegasus 3, which doesn't support IMAP yet, so I can't comment on that issue. Which is too bad, because I have to use windows here at work, and I'd rather use something

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:15:56PM +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 12:11:40PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: I've tried a ton of Windows e-mail packages, and most really suck at imap. Eudora, surprisingly enough, is great at pop but sucks at imap. [...] Well, mutt works nicely

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
On Thursday 10 July 2003 18:28, Ed Wilts wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:15:56PM +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 12:11:40PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: I've tried a ton of Windows e-mail packages, and most really suck at imap.

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 06:32:39PM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Doesn't Mozilla support IMAP? I know it supports POP3 (secure and insecure) on multiple ports. It's easy to configure, too I've done a lot of work with mozilla and netscape, but unfortunately, on Windows, nothing touches IE.

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Richard Humphrey
I hope you find out, because I would like to know that as well. I use Outlook at work and all my coworkers use HTMLblah -- Richard Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] The goys have proven the

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread John Salamone
Mark, Try tools, options, send to solve problem. or tools, account...etc - Original Message - From: Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RedHat Mailing List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 3:17 PM Subject: Had enough -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Richard Crawford
Mark Haney said: Okay, I've had it. Does ANYONE know how to turn off replying to HTML emails as HTML in Outlook? I default to text, but when I reply to someone who sent an email in HTML, my reply is in HTML too. And I'm pretty sick of getting the auto-respond from this list about it. I

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Mike McMullen
What I do in outlook express is force the reply to be in plain text from Compose window's Format option. Crude but effective. Mike - Original Message - From: Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay, I've had it. Does ANYONE know how to turn off replying to HTML emails as HTML in

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
On Wednesday 09 July 2003 14:17, Mark Haney wrote in an attempt to be witty and informative: Okay, I've had it. Does ANYONE know how to turn off replying to HTML emails as HTML in Outlook? I default to text, but when I reply to someone who sent an email in HTML, my reply is in HTML too. And

RE: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Chris W. Parker
Mark Haney mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I've had it. Does ANYONE know how to turn off replying to HTML emails as HTML in Outlook? I default to text, but when I reply to someone who sent an email in HTML, my reply is in HTML too. And I'm pretty sick of getting the auto-respond from

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Stephen Smith
: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Had enough I hope you find out, because I would like to know that as well. I use Outlook at work and all my coworkers use HTMLblah -- Richard Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Keith Morse
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Richard Humphrey wrote: I hope you find out, because I would like to know that as well. I use Outlook at work and all my coworkers use HTMLblah Also, I've heard that this can be manipulated by the Exchange server (if you're using one) to always do email via html no

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Brian Ashe
Mark, On Wednesday July 09, 2003 03:17, Mark Haney wrote: Okay, I've had it. Does ANYONE know how to turn off replying to HTML emails as HTML in Outlook? I default to text, but when I reply to someone who sent an email in HTML, my reply is in HTML too. And I'm pretty sick of getting the

RE: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Mark Haney
Title: RE: Had enough -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 click on tools - options - send - and take the check out of reply int he format message was sent in Okay, this only works in Outlook Express. I'm running pure Outlook. Unfortunately I can't run RH completely on my laptop

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread dnk
For OE 6.. tools options send tab uncheck the option to reply in the format in which it was sent. d - Original Message - From: Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RedHat Mailing List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: Had enough -BEGIN

RE: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Mark Haney
Title: RE: Had enough -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, FYI, here's what I found (Cut and Pasted from the page since it's a long text document). Note the warning: There's no way to do this for all messages in Outlook 2000. It's _per message_ only. Outlook 2000 * Select

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
On Wednesday 09 July 2003 14:39, Mark Haney wrote in an attempt to be witty and informative: click on tools - options - send - and take the check out of reply int he format message was sent in Okay, this only works in Outlook Express. I'm running pure Outlook. Unfortunately I can't run RH

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
On Wednesday 09 July 2003 14:46, Mark Haney wrote in an attempt to be witty and informative: snip WARNING: Outlook 2000 uses what Microsoft calls Auto Format Reply. Due to the variety of message formats supported by different e-mail clients, Outlook 2000 ensures that e-mail recipients receive

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Stephen Smith
But.. remember - you pay for this because it's for your own good and only Uncle Billy know what's good for you - Original Message - From: Joseph A Nagy Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Had enough On Wednesday 09

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread -{ Rene Brehmer }-
Would recommend locating one of the Outlook/OE groups on usenet ... don't think many here use it... Rene At 20:31 09-07-2003, you wrote: Mark Haney said: Okay, I've had it. Does ANYONE know how to turn off replying to HTML emails as HTML in Outlook? I default to text, but when I reply to

RE: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Leonard den Ottolander
Hi Mark, We are drifting slightly off topic here, but if you need a decent mailer under Windows you should try Pegasus mail (http://www.pmail.com). It's the main reason I still keep rebooting between Windows and Linux on this machine. Bye, Leonard. -- How clean is a war when you shoot around

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 05:17, Mark Haney wrote: Okay, I've had it. Does ANYONE know how to turn off replying to HTML emails as HTML in Outlook? I default to text, but when I reply to someone who sent an email in HTML, my reply is in HTML too. And I'm pretty sick of getting the auto-respond

RE: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Cowles, Steve
-Original Message- From: Mark Haney Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: Had enough -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, I've had it. Does ANYONE know how to turn off replying to HTML emails as HTML in Outlook? I default to text, but when I reply

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Reuben D. Budiardja
On Wednesday 09 July 2003 04:53 pm, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: Hi Mark, We are drifting slightly off topic here, but if you need a decent mailer under Windows you should try Pegasus mail (http://www.pmail.com). It's the main reason I still keep rebooting between Windows and Linux on this

Re: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Benjamin J. Weiss
Okay, I've had it. Does ANYONE know how to turn off replying to HTML emails as HTML in Outlook? I default to text, but when I reply to someone who sent an email in HTML, my reply is in HTML too. And I'm pretty sick of getting the auto-respond from this list about it. Um, I hate to be a

RE: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Chris W. Parker
Cowles, Steve mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I try to be a good net/list citizen, there are times I do not have the time to convert an html e-mail to text, but I have an answer to someones post. Yes, the initial conversion step is easy... format-plain text, but then I must also

RE: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Cowles, Steve
Chris W. Parker wrote: Cowles, Steve wrote: Although I try to be a good net/list citizen, there are times I do not have the time to convert an html e-mail to text, but I have an answer to someones post. Yes, the initial conversion step is easy... format-plain text, but then I must also

RE: Had enough

2003-07-09 Thread Chris W. Parker
Cowles, Steve mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Must have missed your reply out of the 23 in this thread. No problem, I was just giving you a hard time. :) Anyway, thanks for the referral to Quotefix. When I converted an HTML message to plain text, quotefix kicked in and properly indented the