M not only
because it is cheaper but I am too darn lazy to look for softwares for
iMAC's.
CH
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From: "Christopher Northrop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Leaving the computer
>On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 06:20:01PM -0500, Tanner, Robby wrote:
> > Leaving the PC on, particulaly with today's advanced power management
> > features, lowers the total cost of ownership (TCO).
In my experience, as a person who likes to power things down at night
(except for one firewall/DNS ma
CH wrote (in part):
>Unless you have a computer with a huge power supply above 250w. > I have
350w and my system uses more power than my monitor.
That's not necessarily true. AAMOF, it probably is not true.
Just because you have a 350 watt power supply does not mean
that it is _using_ 350 watt
reduction and reliability improvement.
Tom
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> get yourself an imac - the current models are fan-less and
> silent...
I believe the fan-not-included was more of a cost-factor rather then
an engineering break through. Lets see the fan displaces heat thus
keeping the thermo movement to a minimum. Also lets
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Gary Nielson wrote:
> or is a UPS a virtual guarantee that it will be safe. If anyone has had a
> computer on a UPS fried, I know there is a guarantee up to $25,000 or
> something from APC at least, but has anyone ever tried to collect any
> money and have they been successf
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 07:17:05PM -0700, CH wrote:
[...]
> That's true. With larger parts in the supply may take a few watts more than
> smaller parts. I know I am not using the full wattage since how the power
> supply is designed to use less power to make less power. Similar applies to
> a s
> Oh, I'm aware of that - but it doesn't work with SCSI disks,
Sorry, I was thinking of EIDE's. True BIOS does not have it (at least not
on my machine).
CH
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From: "Thomas Ribbrock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Leaving the computer on
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 07:16:03AM -0700, CH wrote:
> [...]
> > Unless you have a
%-> Oh, I'm aware of that - but it doesn't work with SCSI disks, AFAIK, as
%-> the BIOS spin down only goes for EIDE drives (correct me if I'm wrong -
%-> at least I've never been able to get SCSI hard drives to spin down that
%-> way). Problem is: The only machines with (E)IDE I have don't have
%
> Ahem... That statement is not quite correct. The power rating of the
> supply has nothing to do with the *actual* consumption (thank be to
> $DEITY, otherwise the whole thing would be majorly unefficient...). If
Well, this is a hardware issue. Plate capacities in Watts mean the highest
consumpt
> through a UPS. If I
> leave my pc on all the time with a UPS, and the UPS gets hit
> by lightning,
> has anyone ever had the experience of their machine still
> getting fried,
It may eventually get "fried" anyway. Protections have a reaction time, and
depends on how long the peak current lasts,
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 7:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Leaving the computer on
>
>
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Hyung Kim wrote:
> > Can anyone please tell me what the benefits are to
> > leaving your computers on at all time. I understand
> > that
CH wrote:
> Tom wrote:
> > The monitor is the power hungry beast in the configuration, but if you have
> > a "green" monitor and take advantage of all the power saving features, you
> > don't need to turn it off, it will do that by itself.
>
> Unless you have a computer with a huge power supply a
e benefits, however, I would like to be
> > > able to provide a more specific answer when other ask
> > > me whether they should leave their system on. Thanks.
> > >
> > > OhWhat about turning just the monitor on and off?
> > >
> > Well, lea
> > Hm, I'm still wondering how/if any machine with a spinning
> hard drive in
> > it can be noiseless - with my machines, in three out of
> four cases the
> > drives make more noise than the fan(s)...
Of course, you will not get 0dB, but almost noiseless can be obtained. It is
just a matter of d
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 07:00:47AM -0700, CH wrote:
[...]
> Newer hardware that started about 5 years ago or beyond a few years, they
> had been making hard drive that will stop spinning disks.
[...]
Oh, I'm aware of that - but it doesn't work with SCSI disks, AFAIK, as
the BIOS spin down only go
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 07:16:03AM -0700, CH wrote:
[...]
> Unless you have a computer with a huge power supply above 250w. I have 350w
> and my system uses more power than my monitor.
Ahem... That statement is not quite correct. The power rating of the
supply has nothing to do with the *actual*
"Tanner, Robby" wrote:
>
> Leaving the PC on, particulaly with today's advanced power management
> features, lowers the total cost of ownership (TCO). One of the largest
> areas of failure is caused by hardware. Of those, a large percent can be
> attributed to bad solder joints. This occurs du
uters on at all time. I understand
> > that there are benefits, however, I would like to be
> > able to provide a more specific answer when other ask
> > me whether they should leave their system on. Thanks.
> >
> > OhWhat about turning just the monitor on and of
Check out http//www.tomshardware.com
He recently did a hard drive comparison that among other things compares noise levels
generated by
the drives.
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 07:13:28PM +1000, Dan Horth wrote:
> > get yourself an imac - the current models are fan-less and silent...
> [...]
>
uld leave their system on. Thanks.
>
> OhWhat about turning just the monitor on and off?
>
Well, leaving the computer on saves wear and tear on the
hardware. When you turn it on, the motherboard and
associated components heat up, and thus, expand. When you
turn it off, they contract. Thi
> It's easy. When does a light bulb fail? When you turn it on. Why? All
> those cold, low resistance circuits draw a lot of current at turn on,
[OT] Imagine one of those Hotels in Reno has chillers that is used for air
conditioning. Just one chiller when startup at an initial few sec will
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 07:13:28PM +1000, Dan Horth wrote:
> > get yourself an imac - the current models are fan-less and silent...
> [...]
That's true but it is more expensive!
> Hm, I'm still wondering how/if any machine with a spinning hard drive in
> it can be noiseless - with my machine
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 07:13:28PM +1000, Dan Horth wrote:
> get yourself an imac - the current models are fan-less and silent...
[...]
Hm, I'm still wondering how/if any machine with a spinning hard drive in
it can be noiseless - with my machines, in three out of four cases the
drives make more
On 15-Jun-00 at 05:43:35 Nico De Ranter wrote:
> Anyway a Unix box does a lot of things during the night which you do not
> want to have running when you're working on it (e.g. my Linux box insist
> on running a number of finds every time I turn it on >>-().
>
Agreed. Check through /etc/crontab an
get yourself an imac - the current models are fan-less and silent...
just like the old mac classics, my old atari 1040stfm (I'm pretty
sure that was silent anyway) and your loyal old C64...
but then again the c64 didn't come with a Harman Kardon sound system built in!
you could install connect
On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 04:10:25PM -0700, Hyung Kim wrote:
> Can anyone please tell me what the benefits are to
> leaving your computers on at all time.
[...]
I don't remember where I read this, but I once found a reasonable
sounding rule of thumb for home systems:
"If you intend to use the mach
ch I may end up adoptingand
> presenting as if they were my idea in the first place :)
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hyung Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 6:10 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Leaving the c
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Leaving the computer on
Can anyone please tell me what the benefits are to
leaving your computers on at all time. I understand
that there are benefits, however, I would like to be
able to provide a more specific answer when other ask
me whether they sh
Hi,
Well it all depends on why you are leaving it on. There is both up's and down's for
it. If it is a server
then YES, you do want to leave it on. I am going to assume that it is in a work
enviroment. It can
be more costly on the home by leaving one on all the time. So with that said.
I
differing views, which I may end up adoptingand
presenting as if they were my idea in the first place :)
> -Original Message-
> From: Hyung Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 6:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Leaving the computer on
>
Can anyone please tell me what the benefits are to
leaving your computers on at all time. I understand
that there are benefits, however, I would like to be
able to provide a more specific answer when other ask
me whether they should leave their system on. Thanks.
OhWhat about turning just t
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