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2015-06-12 Thread Marc Stern
In Smith v Jefferson County Bd. of School Comm'rs, 13-5957,decided yesterday by the Sixth Circuit,, the concurring judge(Judge Batchelder) said flat out that We do not grant monetary damages for violations of the Establishment Clause. No authority is cited for that proposition ,other than a

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2014-09-28 Thread Marc Stern
Academics Reply To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: GW National Religious Freedom Moot Court Competition Dear Chip, Thanks for this. I'm hoping that Notre Dame will send a team again. All the best, Rick Richard W. Garnett Professor of Law and Concurrent Professor

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2014-02-27 Thread hamilton02
al Message- From: Sisk, Gregory C. gcs...@stthomas.edu To: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics' religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 4:16 pm Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Every sorry episode in the long Americ

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2014-02-26 Thread Marci Hamilton
- From: Michael Worley mwor...@byulaw.net To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2014 8:47 pm Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Would you say the Federal RFRA is egregious, Marci? On Tue

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2014-02-26 Thread Scarberry, Mark
message From: Marci Hamilton Date:02/26/2014 5:09 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Cc: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses They are similar in that both involve believers demanding

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2014-02-26 Thread Scarberry, Mark
Academics Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Marci's view of the rights of a Walmart under tha AZ bill, and likely even the Kansas bill, is simply wrong. The application in the AZ bill to private enforcement by way of lawsuit simply prevents the state

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2014-02-26 Thread Marci Hamilton
:00) To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Cc: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses They are similar in that both involve believers demanding a right to discriminate due to their religion. If Hobby

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2014-02-26 Thread Marci Hamilton
. Scarberry Pepperdine University School of y Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scarberry, Mark Date:02/26/2014 6:47 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting

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2014-02-26 Thread Ira Lupu
Original message From: Scarberry, Mark Date:02/26/2014 6:47 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Marci's view of the rights of a Walmart under tha AZ bill, and likely even the Kansas

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2014-02-26 Thread Hillel Y. Levin
/2014 6:47 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Marci's view of the rights of a Walmart under tha AZ bill, and likely even the Kansas bill, is simply wrong. The application in the AZ bill

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2014-02-26 Thread Ira Lupu
=1055context=njlsp. There is plenty of other literature on the subject. What has happened in other states since we wrote that piece is quite consistent with the pattern we described. These laws do NOT contain exceptions for wedding vendors (bakers, caterers, etc.) or public employees like marriage

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2014-02-26 Thread Hillel Y. Levin
on the subject. What has happened in other states since we wrote that piece is quite consistent with the pattern we described. These laws do NOT contain exceptions for wedding vendors (bakers, caterers, etc.) or public employees like marriage license clerks. Those are the efforts that have

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2014-02-26 Thread Ira Lupu
) for religious charities and social services. Bob Tuttle and I analyze and collect some of that here: http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1055context=njlsp. There is plenty of other literature on the subject. What has happened in other states since we wrote

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2014-02-26 Thread Conkle, Daniel O.
to sexual-orientation discrimination claims and that its protection was absolute, not subject to balancing. Dan Conkle Daniel O. Conkle Robert H. McKinney Professor of Law Indiana University Maurer School of Law Bloomington, Indiana 47405 (812) 855-4331

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2014-02-26 Thread hamilton02
10003 (212) 790-0215 http://sol-reform.com -Original Message- From: Hillel Y. Levin hillelle...@gmail.com To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:14 am Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit

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2014-02-26 Thread Alan Brownstein
Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Whether or not the bills are similar in political motivation or in potential impact, the media coverage of the Arizona bill – at least what I’ve seen – has been woeful. Until reading the actual Kansas bill, I certainly

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2014-02-26 Thread Douglas Laycock
-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Ira Lupu Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:34 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses That is my understanding, Hillel

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2014-02-26 Thread hamilton02
...@virginia.edu To: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics' religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 2:24 pm Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Many state laws on sexual-orientation discrimination, and most laws on same-sex marriage, have

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2014-02-26 Thread Hillel Y. Levin
Charlottesville, VA 22903 434-243-8546 *From:* religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Ira Lupu *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:34 AM *To:* Law Religion issues for Law Academics *Subject:* Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona

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2014-02-26 Thread Douglas Laycock
22903 434-243-8546 From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of hamilto...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:32 PM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit

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2014-02-26 Thread Scarberry, Mark
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Hillel Y. Levin Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:49 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Doug: What do you mean by the following: Apart from

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2014-02-26 Thread tznkai
...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *hamilto...@aol.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:32 PM *To:* religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu *Subject:* Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Doug--What does such an exemption look like if it is available to anyone other than

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2014-02-26 Thread Hillel Y. Levin
*From:* religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Hillel Y. Levin *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:49 AM *To:* Law Religion issues for Law Academics *Subject:* Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses

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2014-02-26 Thread hamilton02
' religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 2:56 pm Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protectingfor-profit businesses It would protect only very small businesses that are personal extensions of the owner, and where the owner must necessarily be involved

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2014-02-26 Thread Douglas Laycock
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Doug: What do you mean by the following: Apart from marriage, there is no reason to have religious exemptions for businesses from laws on sexual-orientation discrimination. There certainly are some

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2014-02-26 Thread Scarberry, Mark
speech. Mark Scarberry Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Hillel Y. Levin Date:02/26/2014 12:18 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Mark

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2014-02-26 Thread Douglas Laycock
...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of hamilto...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:19 PM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Would you suggest this if it were based

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2014-02-26 Thread hamilton02
of Law Yeshiva University 55 Fifth Avenue New York, NY 10003 (212) 790-0215 http://sol-reform.com -Original Message- From: Douglas Laycock dlayc...@virginia.edu To: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics' religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 3:31 pm Subject: RE

FW from Paul Salamanca: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses

2014-02-26 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From: Salamanca, Paul E Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:28 PM To: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Dear friends, The Supreme Court has interpreted the First Amendment to do much more than protect

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2014-02-26 Thread Sisk, Gregory C.
...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of hamilto...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:43 PM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses I don't have any desire for them to go out

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2014-02-26 Thread William B. Kelley
Massie Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 434-243-8546 *From:*religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Ira Lupu *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:34 AM *To:* Law Religion issues for Law Academics *Subject:* Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona

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2014-02-26 Thread Douglas Laycock
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of William B. Kelley Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:22 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Prof. Laycock makes interesting points, as usual

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2014-02-26 Thread Richard Dougherty
*To:* religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu *Subject:* Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses I don't have any desire for them to go out of business, but if they are going to be in business, they need to operate in the marketplace without discrimination. If the business

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2014-02-26 Thread Marc Stern
: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:51 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses The ship that has clearly sailed on this list is respect. That scholars and professional educators cannot

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2014-02-26 Thread Alan Brownstein
To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Assume neither bill becomes law. A wedding photographer hangs a sign in his shop saying SSM is immoral but state civil rights require us to photograph SSM ceremonies. A complaint

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2014-02-26 Thread Michael Masinter
of discrimination is filed. What result? Marc Stern From: Richard Dougherty [mailto:dou...@udallas.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:51 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit

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2014-02-26 Thread Alan Brownstein
Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Following up on this: gays and lesbians have been told (wrongly) for years to change their orientation or just act on it in private, disregarding their interest in living lives

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2014-02-25 Thread Michael Peabody
After reading the legislation, it's amazing how broadly it is drafted. It would seem to not only include permitting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or marital status, but also on the basis of religion. It would make it very easy for any business with a religious inkling to

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2014-02-25 Thread Greg Hamilton
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Peabody Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 1:38 PM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses After reading the legislation, it's amazing how broadly it is drafted. It would seem

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2014-02-25 Thread Scarberry, Mark
Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses ...and Alan has been championing this bill on the spot at the Arizona capitol. Sigh. I have fought him over it when he tried to push me into supporting the Idaho bill which was just

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2014-02-25 Thread Marci Hamilton
...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Hamilton Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 1:55 PM To: mich...@californialaw.org; Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses

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2014-02-25 Thread Michael Worley
*To:* mich...@californialaw.org; Law Religion issues for Law Academics *Subject:* RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses ...and Alan has been championing this bill on the spot at the Arizona capitol. Sigh. I have fought him over it when he tried to push

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2014-02-25 Thread hamilton02
mwor...@byulaw.net To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2014 8:47 pm Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Would you say the Federal RFRA is egregious, Marci? On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:38 PM

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2014-02-25 Thread Michael Worley
-Original Message- From: Michael Worley mwor...@byulaw.net To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2014 8:47 pm Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Would you say the Federal RFRA is egregious, Marci

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2013-06-13 Thread Douglas Laycock
Today the National Archives, with a large assist from the University of Virginia, put up 119,000 documents from the collected papers of George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, and James Madison. The documents are searchable and they include

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2011-01-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I'm not sure I quite understand Eric's point. If the contract says that Muslim arbitrators are to be chosen, but there's a dispute about who's a Muslim, and the result is that the court can't act, then that's another way of saying that the contract is not enforceable by the

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2010-05-04 Thread Marc Stern
Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:36 PM To: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: Religious harassment claim against a religious hospital? * Prof. Howard Friedman's excellent Religion Clause blog pointed to Kennedy v. Villa St. Catherine's

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2007-09-19 Thread RJLipkin
Great! Next time do it when I tell you to do it. Bobby Robert Justin Lipkin Professor of Law Widener University School of Law Delaware Ratio Juris , Contributor: _ http://ratiojuris.blogspot.com/_ (http://ratiojuris.blogspot.com/) Essentially Contested America, Editor-In-Chief

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2007-04-04 Thread Richard James
presenters. It seems reasonable enough that the teacher’s right to control guests is not subject to much challenge, but I had emphasized to the volunteer and the teacher that the minister wasn’t going to engage in any proselytizing, but was going to discuss the functional aspects of her job. I

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2007-04-04 Thread Douglas Laycock
Very often that's the real problem.  Then the lawyers on both sides go to work making up arguments. Quoting Richard James [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Of course, as a non-lawyer, I think that what the school has done is dumb, mostly.  * * * Richard James Douglas Laycock Yale Kamisar

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2007-04-04 Thread Richard Dougherty
that it is more complicated than that. Richard Dougherty-Original Message-From: "Richard James" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent 4/4/2007 11:30:11 AMTo: religionlaw@lists.ucla.eduSubject: (no subject) Clergy at career daysInteresting responses, thanks. In this case, the situation was much more

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2007-04-03 Thread Richard James
In response to the March 26 posting below (although it’s not really a response, because I was the ‘correspondent’) it might also be the case that Church of Lukumi Babalu Aye, Inc. v. City of Hialeah 508 U.S. 520, 530 (1993) has more bearing on the issue, as the decision holds that: The first

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2007-04-03 Thread Douglas Laycock
I don't know the Peck case.  But there are cases holding that religious viewpoints cannot be excluded from genuine free speech opportunities.  Widmar v. Vincent (1981); Lamb's Chapel v. Center Moriches Union Free School District (1993); Rosenberger v. Rector of Univ. of Virginia (1995);

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2007-04-03 Thread Brownstein, Alan
- even when their decisions are viewpoint discriminatory. Alan Brownstein From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Laycock Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:18 AM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) I

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2007-04-03 Thread Douglas Laycock
when their decisions are viewpoint discriminatory. Alan Brownstein From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Laycock Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:18 AM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) I don't

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2007-04-03 Thread Steven Jamar
It seems to me that the problem would arise with the parent or grandparent priest who would preach rather than talk about the job as a career. Can't that be controlled? Is the fear of it enough to make a distinction? What if the fear is based on past experience in the particular

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2006-03-21 Thread Phillip Sparkes
From The Guardian for Tuesday, March 21, 2006: Archbishop: stop teaching creationism Williams backs science over Bible The Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, has stepped into the controversy between religious fundamentalists and scientists by saying that he does not believe

From the list custodian re: viewpoints, wording, fund-raising, and subject matter

2005-12-13 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Folks: My general approach to this list has been to allow all viewpoints, though to insist that the viewpoints be framed in as polite a way as possible given the nature of those viewpoints. This includes anti-Semitism, anti-Protestantism, anti-evangelical-Christianity, anti-Catholicism,

Wedding Ceremony Disclosures:Viable Claim or Lack of Subject Matter Jurisdiction

2005-09-30 Thread Lawyer2974
judicating this subject matter? Aren't all of plainitffs claims constitutionally precluded, or is there a viable cause of action for the disclosure of personal information during the course of a relgious service and ceremony? Donald C. Clark, Jr.2333 Waukegan RoadSuite 160Bannockburn, Illinois 60015847-2

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2005-02-23 Thread Marc Stern
of fiduciary duty claim was the functional equivalent of a claim for clergy malpractice which it had already rejected. There was a dissent which notes the split of authority on the subject. Marc Stern ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu

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2005-02-01 Thread RJLipkin
Apologies to the List. I did not intend my post to Steve Jamar to be sent to the List. Bobby Robert Justin LipkinProfessor of LawWidener University School of LawDelaware ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe,

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2004-11-05 Thread marc stern
Anonymous students left pamphlets calling on students to accept Jesus on the desks of Jewish public high school students and no other students. I have been asked whether a school could ban religiously targeted distribution of any pamphlet. Any responses? Marc Stern

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2004-11-05 Thread Steven Green
If possible, Eugene, Alan, and Chip are all correct. The school need not allow such activity in the classroom (distributions generally) and should be concerned about intimidating material (in the classroom or outside). Conversely, students have the right to target follow students of

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2004-07-02 Thread Robert Obrien
and corrected the translation I have e-mailed. Bob O'Brien - Original Message - From: marc stern To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:28 PM Subject: (no subject) A decision of the European Court of Human Rights upholding a rule banning