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>But, I haven't seen any DTV tuner boxes with clocks and/or scheduling >capabilities to tune the correct channel prior to the recording device >starting up. > >Has anyone else seen one of those? (Other than building a home-brew DVR >with MythBox or buying a similar commercial product...)

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; our Governer... Though it is fun to watch, you couldn't make this stuff up. > Sad, But fun.) > > Tom > W9SRV > > --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Chuck Kelsey > > > wrote: > > > From: Chuck Kelsey > > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter

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up. Sad, But fun.) Tom W9SRV --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Chuck Kelsey wrote: > From: Chuck Kelsey > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues- You can > stop the thread now > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 6:2

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transmitter running. They can auction whenever they want. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "TGundo 2003" To: Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:49 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues- You can stop the thread now > Insider info- Just got

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On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Paul Plack wrote: > The coupon site makes it clear that the coupons will come by "standard > mail, not first class." The postal service calls this "Presort > Standard." The more common dexriptor is "junk mail." > > They're paying a reduced postal rate which frees the US Posta

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues

It shows you where today's consumer is...RF sensitivity and immunity from overload aren't even footnotes. - Original Message - From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT-

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues

This page might be interesting: Consumer Reports side-by-side ratings of DTV converter boxes Consumer Reports Recommendations and Notes:

[Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues- You can stop the thread now

Insider info- Just got done talking with someone with some intresting inside info... The certainty that the DTV cutoff date is HIGH (I would put your money on it). And, I hear the word on the street is they are going to push it back 3 years Why, you ask? Because not enough people have con

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ssage - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues > > Also, in regard to Chuck's comment about stations staying on their UHF > allocation freqs, WBBM - the CBS affiliate in Chicago - is on Ch

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Joe, Can you provide manufacturers and/or model numbers so I can research further on these "higher-end" boxes?? Also, in regard to Chuck's comment about stations staying on their UHF allocation freqs, WBBM - the CBS affiliate in Chicago - is on Ch 2 analog and Ch 12 digital for now. WBBM will re

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John Sichert wrote: > > The best unit as far as sensitivity goes, seems to be the Channel > Master CM-7000. Has this unit been tested side by side against the Magnavox TB100 and its variants? If so, how much better is the CM-7000? Kevin

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Joe M: I can tell you right now that there seems to be far more CATV systems in the US that are far outside of the CLI standards than there are that are within the "acceptable" CLI standard. Our system happens to be one of the companies that tends to invest greatly in infrastructure maintenance ra

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This will be My last comment on this, The Topic sure has run its course and Generated a lot of Valuable info that some may of not been aware of , It is one thing to talk about something New but another thing When people like on Here have actually already tried it and Experienced the Problems ,

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That will be a loss for all RF users because where there is INGRESS, there is usually EGRESS, too (and often to the point it's not legal). Cable is supposed to be a closed system. As you said, the problem will still be present - just not dealt with as swiftly - if at all. The only ones who shou

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least cost to the > publicThat would have added $5 > > Tom > W9SRV > > > --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Nate Duehr wrote: > >> From: Nate Duehr >> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues >> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroup

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At 1/8/2009 14:39, you wrote: > > > > But, I haven't seen any DTV tuner boxes with clocks > > and/or scheduling > > capabilities to tune the correct channel prior to the > > recording device > > starting up. > > > > Has anyone else seen one of those? (Other than building a > > home-brew DVR > > wi

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As someone that works in the CATV industry... I'm truly looking forward to the analog-shutoff in February... No more "ghosting" trouble calls due to ingress... Granted, those T/Cs will be less frequent but the problem of ingress/egress will still be present... Oh well :) I can tell you that o

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At 1/8/2009 08:02, you wrote: >Tom, > >I do like the suggestion about the pre-amp - I may give that a try this >afternoon (if it isn't too cold in my attic!) and I'll report my results. >(BTW - mine is not a "hardware store" variety, it's a Winegard that I spent >probably $70 on about three years a

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: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues > >> Many stations will be going back to there original VHF freq's after the > analog is down, so UHF transmitters are just temporary. >

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t: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues > Having issues converting over to digital TV. > My father "volunteered" my services to a few of his friends, all > serious seniors, Detroit market, As an elecronic wizard (my dad

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At 1/8/2009 07:02, you wrote: >Try this site. It's not perfect, but will give you an idea. I find cased >where it says I'm well within range and I can't get the channels and some >where it says I shouldn't and do. > >http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/markets/ > >Keep in mind than a lot of stations have gone f

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Chuck Kelsey wrote: I'm using the Magnavox converter. Compared to my HDTV, I'd say that reception is the same, only that the converter changes channels a lot faster than the tuner in the TV. Actually the converter has a longer run of coax than the TV. We are doing several digital to analog co

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t; >whats left. I have not seen any DTV converters that can > do what you > >ask for. Remember- Made to be the least cost to the > publicThat > >would have added $5 > > > >Tom > >W9SRV > > > > > >--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Nate Duehr >

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Mark wrote: > NBC Nightly News just had a teaser about the Obama Transition team > wanting to push back the DTV switch-over date… Maybe they should just do some more "wealth redistribution" to pay for a few more $40 coupons instead. Then they can feel the warm glow of accomplishment -- afte

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V > > >--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Nate Duehr wrote: > > > From: Nate Duehr > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 4:07 PM > > Here's something in

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8, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues At 09:30 AM 01/08/09, you wrote: >Hello Mike, > >Are you saying your address shows as invalid?. I ordered some for my >sister (on line) and it allowed you to enter an actual street

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues

NBC Nightly News just had a teaser about the Obama Transition team wanting to push back the DTV switch-over date.

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I just looked at my TV converter coupon program letter and verified that they sent the card to my post office box. I got the card, no problem. Joe Larry wrote: > Hello Mike, > > Are you saying your address shows as invalid?. I ordered some for my > sister (on line) and it allowed you to enter

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Already tried that with several lengths - in case the first one I tried was bad. And I did find a bad length, but it wasn't inline. Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Try a new jumper between the converter and the TV. Maybe

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Just bought a Phillips DVDR3576H, has an ATSC, NTSC, & QAM tuner, records to hard drive or DVD and has built-in timers. Also has modulator for output to ch 3 as well as composite video, component video and HDMI.Also upconverts to 720i or 1080i. May be more than you are looking for, but it is re

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues

Try a new jumper between the converter and the TV. Maybe it's questionable and introducing your pass-through loss. Can't hurt to try. Chuck - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:44 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digi

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OK I promised that I'd reply back if I tried removal of the preamplifier. Well, I did and it resulted in degraded reception. Before removing the pre-amp, I could receive DTV channels 5 (with artifacts), 7, 9, 11, 32, 35, 38, 44, and 50. After removal, I received only 9, 32, and 50. So I guess th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues

o the publicThat would have added $5 Tom W9SRV --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Nate Duehr wrote: > From: Nate Duehr > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 4:07 PM > Here'

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Here's something interesting I noticed. If the "consumer" (we're not people you know, we're consumers now...) had any type of Standard Def recording device that had its own tuner... It could ostensibly be set permanently to "channel 3" (or whatever the RF output of the DTV converter box is) to

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At 09:30 AM 01/08/09, you wrote: >Hello Mike, > >Are you saying your address shows as invalid?. I ordered some for my >sister (on line) and it allowed you to enter an actual street >address and then it allowed shipping to a different address like her P.O. Box. My old adders is forwarded by the

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Paul N1BUG wrote: > I TRY not to respond to OT posts, but boy am I fed up with DTV! > > I could get all the high power analog stations in my market > snow-free with a small rooftop antenna. No go with DTV so I've been > incrementally upgrading. I now have a very large antenna residing at > 70 f

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hoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:21 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues Only boxes I have found so far that seem to work very well are the DigitalStream & Zenith pass thru boxes, scan quickly, best picture on rabbit ears. Cost more, but wor

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ge, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: Mark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 8:45:16 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues I have the same problem here outside of the Chicago area... for reference, I'm

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S Mark- had the Jack in my highly caffinated Coke last night! It does help. --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Mark wrote: > From: Mark > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 10:02 AM

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I TRY not to respond to OT posts, but boy am I fed up with DTV! I could get all the high power analog stations in my market snow-free with a small rooftop antenna. No go with DTV so I've been incrementally upgrading. I now have a very large antenna residing at 70 feet on one of my towers. Now I

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My application for a converter box coupon was rejected saying that there were no more coupons available. 73 - Jim  W5ZIT --- On Mon, 1/5/09, TRACOMM wrote: From: TRACOMM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January

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She could watch an analog picture way down in the snow and be perfectly happy. I hate a snowy picture, but must admit the digital artifacts are annoying too. Chuck - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:02 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder]

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Tom, Did we all hit a nerve?? Hehehehe Regarding the February changeover date - the FCC could still have set another date in June 2009 (or April for that matter - anytime when the weather in 2/3 of the country was a bit more tolerable) but *chose* not to do so. I deal with government on a dail

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The bain of my existance the last few weeks.DTV. Several Points of order: DTV Myths, Comments, Q&A: I hear once a day: DTV doesn't work as good as analog. My Response (based on experience): Does not work as good is from a point of view. The fact is DTV is more effiecnt, the stations are ty

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Mike, The Echostar "PAL" unit has a good electronic program guide. A friend of mine has a problem with the unit locking up sometimes. (Could just be his) The best unit as far as sensitivity goes, seems to be the Channel Master CM-7000. It also has an S-Video output that the others lack. The

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UHF in the process. Chuck - Original Message - From: "Mark" To: Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues >I have the same problem here outside of the Chicago area... for reference, > I'm ab

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Mark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues Mike, I know of a couple of people who were able to "get around" the address issue by adding "Apartment 2&quo

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Mike, I know of a couple of people who were able to "get around" the address issue by adding "Apartment 2" to the address, and using a different name (like a daughter, son, etc.). Now it looks like a multiple occupancy rather than a single-family home. But since the government is either out

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I have the same problem here outside of the Chicago area... for reference, I'm about 60 mi SW of Chicago. I have three converters installed in my home to prepare for the transition - they are on TVs in "non-critical" areas, i.e., bedrooms, kids rooms, etc. I have DirecTV for the primary TV sets (

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On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: > 3) The post office forwards my old address, but I can't use it - the > envelopes have a DO NOT FORWARD stamp on them. Call your congresscritter, or better yet -- arrange a visit to his office. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR But remember, with no superpow

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I've got a different problem - 1) the folks that had this mobile home before me "burned" this address as far as the coupon database is concerned (I can't get coupons at this address). 2) They won't send them to a PO box. 3) The post office forwards my old address, but I can't use it - the envel

[Repeater-Builder] OT- Digital TV converter box issues

Having issues converting over to digital TV. My father "volunteered" my services to a few of his friends, all serious seniors, Detroit market, As an elecronic wizard (my dad's words) I should be able to make anything with wires work well. Most converter boxes I tried took forever to scan, channe