Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-24 Thread Mark A. Holman
; even covered under Part 15. A lot has changed over >> > the years. >> > >> > Fred >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> > Of Dexter McIntyre

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-24 Thread Neil McKie
e- > > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > Of Dexter McIntyre W4DEX > > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:33 PM > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man &g

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-24 Thread Cody Hayden
t; -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Dexter McIntyre W4DEX > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:33 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man > charged w

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread mch
motarolla_doctor wrote: > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... > > > > This IS correct, radar uses a transmitter and ALL transmitters are > required to be licensed. I am sure he does not

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Dave VanHorn
At 11:12 AM 7/22/2005, Jim B. wrote: >Mike Pugh wrote: > > Whether he DID or DID NOT do anything illegal is up to the courts to > > decide. Apparently, one can infer from the arresting officer's actions > > that the officer had probable cause to arrest him based on what he > > observed Mike > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Jim B.
Mike Pugh wrote: > Whether he DID or DID NOT do anything illegal is up to the courts to > decide. Apparently, one can infer from the arresting officer's actions > that the officer had probable cause to arrest him based on what he > observed Mike No-only that he THOUGHT he did. -- Jim Barbo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Mike Pugh
Whether he DID or DID NOT do anything illegal is up to the courts to decide. Apparently, one can infer from the arresting officer's actions that the officer had probable cause to arrest him based on what he observed Mike Jim B. wrote: > Mike Pugh wrote: > >>But it also tends to get one ar

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Neal Newman
 Not For nothing.  I once owned a Crown Vic  Bought it from a police auction  complete with the Bolted Transmission. It was an old PA state Police chase car can you say Fast  YEP.  But the speed limit is Only 65. when I lived in NY  I was involved in law enforcement. also  my local OEM. I ha

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Neal Newman wrote: > Yeah Right USDHS is the First step to being American Nazis > I Vant to see your papers you need to carry your birth certificate > or passport upstate NY without Leaving the state. > I know it happened to me. First thing Customs needs to do is to ge

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Jim B.
Likewise, well said! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Fred Fitte wrote: > Mike, > > I am a retired LE office. If it is such a big deal, then there should be a > statute that prohibits its use In a motor vehicle. I may not care for a lot > Of things people do, but they should not get in trouble for it. W

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Jim B.
Dave VanHorn wrote: > At 05:38 AM 7/22/2005, Mike Pugh wrote: > >>But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within >>our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could >>possibly get you into trouble, > > > Isn't that an oxymoron? Right. 'Getting int

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
BRAVOMy whole point exactly. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:02 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driv

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Jim B.
Mike Pugh wrote: > But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are > not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike But how can someone be arrested if they didn't do anything illegal If that's why the guy was given a ticket, the cop should be arrested, and taken of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Buley, Kenneth L \(GE Consumer & Industrial\)
>--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... > This IS correct, radar uses a transmitter and ALL transmitters are required to be licensed. I am sure he does not have a license. > > >Having a rad

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:38 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... > This IS

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:38 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas But does it pass

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Dave VanHorn
At 05:38 AM 7/22/2005, Mike Pugh wrote: >But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within >our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could >possibly get you into trouble, Isn't that an oxymoron? > and knowing that you had no need to own >it besides

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Mike Pugh
t is legal. > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:50 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with '

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread motarolla_doctor
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... > This IS correct, radar uses a transmitter and ALL transmitters are required to be licensed. I am sure he does not have a license. > > >Having a radar

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
sday, July 21, 2005 9:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Fred Fitte wrote: >Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. > > > But using it on the highway can get you

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike Fred Fitte wrote: > Having a radar unit is perfectl

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Jeff Otterson wrote: > I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... It's been said before that Jerry runs a communications shop; don't most shops own a repeater or three and have Part

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... Jeff At 08:46 PM 7/21/2005, you wrote: >Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. > >Fred > >-Original Mes

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Otterson Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... Jeff At 08:46 PM

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Did you also note what looked to me to be a flashing lite on the left rear deck behind the deck speaker? I looked for one on the driver's side, but couldn't positively make out that there was a light there. Looks

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Neal Newman
Yeah Right USDHS is the First step to being American Nazis I Vant to see your papers you need to carry your birth certificate or passport upstate NY without Leaving the state. I know it happened to me. First thing Customs needs to do is to get rid of the Mexican looking officers out of NY

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Dave VanHorn
At 11:13 PM 7/21/2005, mch wrote: >Mike Pugh wrote: > > > > mch wrote: > > > > > I know lots of hams who have EmCom vehicles under their own authority. > > > You don't need permission to put one together. You only need permission > > > of a PS agency to put transmit in an authorized radio, but the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread mch
Mike Pugh wrote: > > mch wrote: > > > I know lots of hams who have EmCom vehicles under their own authority. > > You don't need permission to put one together. You only need permission > > of a PS agency to put transmit in an authorized radio, but the radios > > never came into play here - just t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread mch
ehalf Of Eric > > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' > > due to ham antennas > > > > Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Pugh
mch wrote: > I know lots of hams who have EmCom vehicles under their own authority. > You don't need permission to put one together. You only need permission > of a PS agency to put transmit in an authorized radio, but the radios > never came into play here - just the antennas. I know some of the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread mch
I know lots of hams who have EmCom vehicles under their own authority. You don't need permission to put one together. You only need permission of a PS agency to put transmit in an authorized radio, but the radios never came into play here - just the antennas. I have about 7 antennas on my vehicle -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread mch
it is perfectly legal. > > > >Fred > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric > >Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM > >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Pugh
Kris Kirby wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Jeff Otterson wrote: > >>I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... > > > It's been said before that Jerry runs a communications shop; don't most > shops own a repeater or three and have Part 90 license? Perhaps he was out > for a test

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Pugh
Or at least a wag! :-) Mike Ken Arck wrote: > At 08:45 PM 7/21/2005 -0400, you wrote: > >>Did you also note what looked to me to be a flashing lite on the left >>rear deck behind the deck speaker? > > > <---Looks like a set of wig-wags to me... > > Ken > -

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Jeff Otterson wrote: > I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... It's been said before that Jerry runs a communications shop; don't most shops own a repeater or three and have Part 90 license? Perhaps he was out for a test drive that day to test the radar uni

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
Fred Fitte wrote: >Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. > > > But using it on the highway can get you in trouble. I know someone who almost got boxed up by a group of 18 wheelers when they figured out the signal lighting up their radar detectors was coming from a personal vehicle. A l

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Jeff Otterson
sday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' >due to ham antennas > >Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's >car. >I would like jerry to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Ken Arck
At 08:45 PM 7/21/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Did you also note what looked to me to be a flashing lite on the left >rear deck behind the deck speaker? <---Looks like a set of wig-wags to me... Ken -- President and CTO - Arco

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Pugh
; [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' > due to ham antennas > > Well I went to the website posted and sa

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Fred Fitte
Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driv

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Pugh
Did you also note what looked to me to be a flashing lite on the left rear deck behind the deck speaker? I looked for one on the driver's side, but couldn't positively make out that there was a light there. Looks to me like Jerry is in deep doo doo... Mike Eric wrote: > Well I went to the webs

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Eric
Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that

[Repeater-Builder] RE: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Gary Pearce KN4AQ
At 06:12 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote: >Could someone send me the URL to the original article off line. I have a >friend in the NC Highway Patrol who is interested and is questioning whether >this really happened. Please send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Thanks, > >Fred Hi, Fred (and all) It happened. I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Fred Fitte
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark A. Holman Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas back in 1976 I was at a ham swap and this dude had a old speed

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-19 Thread Mark A. Holman
PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas > > K-55's on X band are still very much in use in New Jersey, which, at one > time (maybe still) had the highest per-capita number of radar units in > service. N

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-19 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
K-55's on X band are still very much in use in New Jersey, which, at one time (maybe still) had the highest per-capita number of radar units in service. NJ state law still requires X band radar for the State Police! They're still using most of the units that they bought when the national 55 speed

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Mark A. Holman
ater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas > As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement > veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the > photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage, > I'm somewhat

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Coy Hilton
The problem is selective enforcement AND too much spare time on their hands. Instead of horassing thoes who would help them in a time of need, they should be nailing drunk driver and putting then in jail. I just watched a Sherrif Deputy sitting at an intersection and about 10 cars ran the STOP

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Jim B.
Jim B. wrote: > So I don't believe any dept > should still be using them. I know NO ONE here in NE Ohio that uses > 10Ghz radar anymore. I should add that they don't use 10Ghz units for issuing tickets anymore... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Rich Garcia
ch -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Jim B.
Frank R. Vondra wrote: > As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement > veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the > photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage, > I'm somewhat curious to know why the defendant has an > MPH K-55 mobile radar unit mounted on the d

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Riley Frazee
rom: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >To: >Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop >car' due to ham antennas >Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:02:06 -0400 > >Gents, > >Rece

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Fred Fitte
ater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage, I'm somewhat curious to know why t

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-17 Thread Frank R. Vondra
As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage, I'm somewhat curious to know why the defendant has an MPH K-55 mobile radar unit mounted on the dash? I'm sure it's not for chasing