RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-24 Thread Cody Hayden
You people CANT be this bored with life. --- Fred Fitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dex, You need to do your homework. RADAR as we know it (Police Radar) is not even covered under Part 15. A lot has changed over the years. Fred -Original Message- From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-24 Thread Neil McKie
We can't? And why not? Some people have to be bored with something ... and the folks on here could be just the people you seem to be looking for ... Neil McKie Cody Hayden wrote: You people CANT be this bored with life. --- Fred Fitte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dex, You

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-24 Thread Mark A. Holman
Actually I am having so much fun who has time to be bored . ta ta ! Mark A. Holman AB8RU ARRL Life Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
Depending on the colors of the lights, they may also be legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
If you are a ham, K band is a shared allocation and covered under Part 97 (per Riley) If you are not a ham, it is covered under Part 90 and if you already are licensed under Part 90, that license covers it. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
GROL does not provide any authorization to test drive radar. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:37 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
For the same reason one might stand in a Park and give a speech that nobody cares about. It is legal. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread motarolla_doctor
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... This IS correct, radar uses a transmitter and ALL transmitters are required to be licensed. I am sure he does not have a license. Having a radar unit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Mike Pugh
But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could possibly get you into trouble, and knowing that you had no need to own it besides to play with it, why mount it on your car, except to play cop? It

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Dave VanHorn
At 05:38 AM 7/22/2005, Mike Pugh wrote: But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could possibly get you into trouble, Isn't that an oxymoron? and knowing that you had no need to own it besides to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
Mike, I am a retired LE office. If it is such a big deal, then there should be a statute that prohibits its use In a motor vehicle. I may not care for a lot Of things people do, but they should not get in trouble for it. We have a process in the US for dealing with such issues. If I do not

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
Using it is absolutely legal. As long as it is on the ham bands or one has a Part 90 license! Per the FCC, in writing! -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of motarolla_doctor Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:27 AM To:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
Mike, How many people in this world lack common sense! A lot. We dont arrest for that, nor does the lack of common sense provide for 'probable cause to make an arrest. Why should anyone get in trouble for a lack of common sense. Laws are enacted to hopefully (bit always don't)

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Buley, Kenneth L \(GE Consumer Industrial\)
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... This IS correct, radar uses a transmitter and ALL transmitters are required to be licensed. I am sure he does not have a license. Having a radar unit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Jim B.
Mike Pugh wrote: But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike But how can someone be arrested if they didn't do anything illegal If that's why the guy was given a ticket, the cop should be arrested, and taken off

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Fred Fitte
BRAVOMy whole point exactly. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:02 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Jim B.
Dave VanHorn wrote: At 05:38 AM 7/22/2005, Mike Pugh wrote: But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could possibly get you into trouble, Isn't that an oxymoron? Right. 'Getting into trouble'

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Jim B.
Likewise, well said! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Fred Fitte wrote: Mike, I am a retired LE office. If it is such a big deal, then there should be a statute that prohibits its use In a motor vehicle. I may not care for a lot Of things people do, but they should not get in trouble for it. We

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Neal Newman wrote: Yeah Right USDHS is the First step to being American Nazis I Vant to see your papers you need to carry your birth certificate or passport upstate NY without Leaving the state. I know it happened to me. First thing Customs needs to do is to get

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Neal Newman
Not For nothing. I once owned a Crown Vic Bought it from a police auction complete with the Bolted Transmission. It was an old PA state Police chase car can you say Fast YEP. But the speed limit is Only 65. when I lived in NY I was involved in law enforcement. also my local OEM. I had at

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Mike Pugh
Whether he DID or DID NOT do anything illegal is up to the courts to decide. Apparently, one can infer from the arresting officer's actions that the officer had probable cause to arrest him based on what he observed Mike Jim B. wrote: Mike Pugh wrote: But it also tends to get one

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Jim B.
Mike Pugh wrote: Whether he DID or DID NOT do anything illegal is up to the courts to decide. Apparently, one can infer from the arresting officer's actions that the officer had probable cause to arrest him based on what he observed Mike No-only that he THOUGHT he did. -- Jim Barbour

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread Dave VanHorn
At 11:12 AM 7/22/2005, Jim B. wrote: Mike Pugh wrote: Whether he DID or DID NOT do anything illegal is up to the courts to decide. Apparently, one can infer from the arresting officer's actions that the officer had probable cause to arrest him based on what he observed Mike No-only

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-22 Thread mch
motarolla_doctor wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... This IS correct, radar uses a transmitter and ALL transmitters are required to be licensed. I am sure he does not have a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Fred Fitte
Could someone send me the URL to the original article off line. I have a friend in the NC Highway Patrol who is interested and is questioning whether this really happened. Please send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] RE: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Gary Pearce KN4AQ
At 06:12 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote: Could someone send me the URL to the original article off line. I have a friend in the NC Highway Patrol who is interested and is questioning whether this really happened. Please send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Fred Hi, Fred (and all) It happened. I was

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Eric
Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Pugh
Did you also note what looked to me to be a flashing lite on the left rear deck behind the deck speaker? I looked for one on the driver's side, but couldn't positively make out that there was a light there. Looks to me like Jerry is in deep doo doo... Mike Eric wrote: Well I went to the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Fred Fitte
Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Pugh
But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike Fred Fitte wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Ken Arck
At 08:45 PM 7/21/2005 -0400, you wrote: Did you also note what looked to me to be a flashing lite on the left rear deck behind the deck speaker? ---Looks like a set of wig-wags to me... Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Jeff Otterson
I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... Jeff At 08:46 PM 7/21/2005, you wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
Fred Fitte wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. But using it on the highway can get you in trouble. I know someone who almost got boxed up by a group of 18 wheelers when they figured out the signal lighting up their radar detectors was coming from a personal vehicle. A lot

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Jeff Otterson wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... It's been said before that Jerry runs a communications shop; don't most shops own a repeater or three and have Part 90 license? Perhaps he was out for a test drive that day to test the radar

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Pugh
Or at least a wag! :-) Mike Ken Arck wrote: At 08:45 PM 7/21/2005 -0400, you wrote: Did you also note what looked to me to be a flashing lite on the left rear deck behind the deck speaker? ---Looks like a set of wig-wags to me... Ken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Pugh
Kris Kirby wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Jeff Otterson wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... It's been said before that Jerry runs a communications shop; don't most shops own a repeater or three and have Part 90 license? Perhaps he was out for a test drive

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread mch
Or Part 97. As was stated before, we share one of the 'radar' bands with other services. Joe M. Jeff Otterson wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... Jeff At 08:46 PM 7/21/2005, you wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread mch
I know lots of hams who have EmCom vehicles under their own authority. You don't need permission to put one together. You only need permission of a PS agency to put transmit in an authorized radio, but the radios never came into play here - just the antennas. I have about 7 antennas on my vehicle

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Mike Pugh
mch wrote: I know lots of hams who have EmCom vehicles under their own authority. You don't need permission to put one together. You only need permission of a PS agency to put transmit in an authorized radio, but the radios never came into play here - just the antennas. I know some of the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread mch
Just a guess, but because he is a LICENSED HAM and may want to use the HAM BAND that many radar guns transmit on or can be modified to transmit on? Not everyone sticks with HF, or even VHF/UHF bands. As for 'extra' brake lights (assuming they are red) in the rear deck, most PD cars are sold with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread mch
Mike Pugh wrote: mch wrote: I know lots of hams who have EmCom vehicles under their own authority. You don't need permission to put one together. You only need permission of a PS agency to put transmit in an authorized radio, but the radios never came into play here - just the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-21 Thread Neal Newman
Yeah Right USDHS is the First step to being American Nazis I Vant to see your papers you need to carry your birth certificate or passport upstate NY without Leaving the state. I know it happened to me. First thing Customs needs to do is to get rid of the Mexican looking officers out of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-19 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
K-55's on X band are still very much in use in New Jersey, which, at one time (maybe still) had the highest per-capita number of radar units in service. NJ state law still requires X band radar for the State Police! They're still using most of the units that they bought when the national 55

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-19 Thread Mark A. Holman
back in 1976 I was at a ham swap and this dude had a old speed meter like D'Arvsonal kind that was older than dirt ! we plugged it in and we watched the meter bounc between speeds only this dud wanted some illegal stuff to trade, I offered him cash for it I said I don't smoke Dope and I am

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Fred Fitte
Gents, Recently (May 2005) two young ham radio operators in my town, each of whom drove retired New York State Police cruisers they had purchased at state auction were questioned and given a hard time by both the local county Sheriff and several State Police officers. Both are amateur radio

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Riley Frazee
I have a suburban 1997 white with 6 antennas for Ham radio rigs and a UHF radio for Med Chs. I am also the Asst. EMS Director with an ambulance service and have flashing lights. the State Police here in CO have hassled me about my suburban. To have lights you must possess an Authorized

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Jim B.
Frank R. Vondra wrote: As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage, I'm somewhat curious to know why the defendant has an MPH K-55 mobile radar unit mounted on the dash?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Rich Garcia
MPH units were dogs... I know I repaired and recertified them for several years. At least in FL X band (10 GHz) was not valid even before 1993. I am saying that I THINK X band was out of the picture nationwide at that time but I never saw it in writing so I cant bet my life on it. I too was in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Jim B.
Jim B. wrote: So I don't believe any dept should still be using them. I know NO ONE here in NE Ohio that uses 10Ghz radar anymore. I should add that they don't use 10Ghz units for issuing tickets anymore... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Coy Hilton
The problem is selective enforcement AND too much spare time on their hands. Instead of horassing thoes who would help them in a time of need, they should be nailing drunk driver and putting then in jail. I just watched a Sherrif Deputy sitting at an intersection and about 10 cars ran the STOP

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Mark A. Holman
Now the truth comes out ! Playing Wannabe cop, we just had a similar problem with a turkey who so far I know a non-ham over in Ottawa County, he just got busted. I was on the phone one day with State Dispatch about an issue and I asked about the phoney cop case I also advised them about some

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-17 Thread Frank R. Vondra
As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage, I'm somewhat curious to know why the defendant has an MPH K-55 mobile radar unit mounted on the dash? I'm sure it's not for