On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 07:45:14AM -0700, David Kohel wrote:
I don't have a strong opinion whether OrderedSets
(or Monoids) should have total or partial ordering.
However, since there is a possible ambiguity, my
preference is to not use OrderedX as an alias for
either PartiallyOrderedX or
Hello !!!
The two coloring functions are meant to output a number when the user
is just interested in the number of classes, but the most natural
behaviour for these functions is to output a partition of the vertices
( of the edges ) such that each class is an independent set. As the
former
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 09:57:09PM +0100, Florent hivert wrote:
[...]
For this reason, I don't think CategoryWithBasis (or more
generally CategoryWith[Free]Generators) is a natural
category -- unless the generators are structures intended
to be preserved, as is the case with a category
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 09:52:47AM +0100, Nicolas Thiéry wrote:
Most of this discussion boils down to a confusion about what
categories are/should be in Sage.
IMHO: they are a design pattern, supported by a programming
construct. The main purpose is of course to model mathematical
On Sunday 01 November 2009, François Bissey wrote:
By the way it looks like the sage version of polybori doesn't depend on
libm4ri
Can you clarify what you mean by that? Do you mean in the Makefile?
which means the internal copy is used (unless you perform an
upgrade which include a
Hi,
I agree that sqrt(2) 1 ;) the problem is the one Jason has
developed : the comparison returns a symbolic expression !
Morever, It works well for min and max functions :
{{{
sage: max(sqrt(2), 1)
sqrt(2)
sage: min(sqrt(2), 1)
1
}}}
Why max(sqrt(2), 1) not a symbolic expression ?
Vincent
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 07:45:14AM -0700, David Kohel wrote:
I don't have a strong opinion whether OrderedSets
(or Monoids) should have total or partial ordering.
However, since there is a possible ambiguity, my
preference is to not use OrderedX as an alias for
either PartiallyOrderedX or
Dear William, dear David,
Very few categories are left unreviewed. Please comment shortly on the
points below, or set a positive review!
Cheers,
Nicolas
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:04:45AM +0200, Nicolas Thiéry wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 01:36:50PM +0100, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote:
So, what do we do with the preexisting OrderedSets and OrderedMonoids?
Does anyone care if we just break backward compatibility by discarding
them?
I guess the current policy is that we should have their __init__
methods
Dear sage-devel,
A while back we decided that we shouldn't just randomly break users'
existing code even if the reason is very good (e.g. there are 20 names
for the exact same thing, and 19 of them are just bad, or we want to
change to a better convention for something). The idea was that
Alex Ghitza wrote:
Dear sage-devel,
A while back we decided that we shouldn't just randomly break users'
existing code even if the reason is very good (e.g. there are 20 names
for the exact same thing, and 19 of them are just bad, or we want to
change to a better convention for
Vincent Delecroix wrote:
Hi,
As you probably knows, Sage is also a company (http://www.sage.com).
It provides financial or buisness software solution. In particular,
the name Sage is a registered trademark at the Patent Office (UK)
under the number 2387 (?). It concerns any software
- Tim Joseph Dumol tim (at) timdumol (dot) com
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
david.kir...@onetel.netwrote:
Alex Ghitza wrote:
Dear sage-devel,
A while back we decided that we shouldn't just randomly break users'
existing code even if the reason is very good
Nice, but I think Givaro fields were not the only ones broken:
K = Loading Sage library. Current Mercurial branch is: minpoly
sage: K.a = GF(17^5)
sage: K.list()
---
TypeError Traceback (most
What would be the problem in using Sagemath, as it is the name of the
website for example ?
Besides, what is the use of such a procedure for Sage ?
On Nov 1, 4:05 pm, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
Vincent Delecroix wrote:
Hi,
As you probably knows, Sage is also a company
What about deprecation warning and moving the deprecated functionality
to an optional package in the next version of Sage with a clear notice
that there is no official support for this optional package.
Ralf
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
To post to this group, send an
perhaps a vocabulary (simple html page or whatever else) which
translates old names into new names would be also useful.
On 1 lis, 16:37, Ralf Hemmecke r...@hemmecke.de wrote:
What about deprecation warning and moving the deprecated functionality
to an optional package in the next version of
Nathann Cohen wrote:
What would be the problem in using Sagemath, as it is the name of the
website for example ?
Besides, what is the use of such a procedure for Sage ?
I personally do not like Sagemath. Someone else expressed that view too.
I personally prefer the name 'Sage' but I do
2009/11/1 Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net:
In fact, documenting the reason for a name change, would show the wide range
of
areas to which Sage could be put.
'OpenMath' is one option I could think of, but I'm sure others could come up
with something better.
That is taken:
There have been issues on Solaris with Sage if the version of tar used is not
GNU tar. GNU uses it's own format for tar (how unusual), called 'gnu'.
However, but according to the GNU tar manual:
http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_node/Formats.html#SEC125
future versions of GNU tar
Hi!
On 1 Nov., 19:30, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
Is this really becoming a thread about changing the name from Sage to
something quite different? I hope not.
Why not? Would you prefer being sued?
Does the spelling make a difference? I have some weak remembrance
saying
On 2009-Oct-31 19:58:21 -0700, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote:
through. Let me know if you know something better than google groups.
Why not host the mailing list in house? We have a domain name and
access to decent infrastructure. IMHO, a set of mailing lists in the
form
2009/11/1 Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie:
Hi!
On 1 Nov., 19:30, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
Is this really becoming a thread about changing the name from Sage to
something quite different? I hope not.
Why not? Would you prefer being sued?
(1) I'm old and set in
Hi John!
On 1 Nov., 21:49, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote:
Why not? Would you prefer being sued?
(1) I'm old and set in my ways
(2) I like the name Sage -- I'm used to it, at least
(3) I really just meant that I hoped that we would not be forced to change,
and
This is why I
Simon King wrote:
Hi!
On 1 Nov., 19:30, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
Is this really becoming a thread about changing the name from Sage to
something quite different? I hope not.
Why not? Would you prefer being sued?
Exactly.
Does the spelling make a difference?
Well it looks like their software is financial in the business sense
of bookkeeping and accounting and related business support. When
someone
uses Sage for financial applications its more for modeling and
differential equations and stuff. After they lost the famasoft
battle
they may not want
Hi David!
On 1 Nov., 22:40, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
...
I think you need to remember that Sage is used in lots of countries. Asking a
lawyer in one country might not be too useful if ...
Good point.
I guess both Sun and Google have lawiers that know about
Georg S. Weber wrote:
As usual,
tests are needed. There were problems in the past with the pretty old
and outdated tar on Mac OS X 10.4.11. As long as this continues to
work OK out of the box, I'm fine with changes. Could you place
somewhere a foobar.tar.bz2 where the new tar is used, so
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
Georg S. Weber wrote:
As usual,
tests are needed. There were problems in the past with the pretty old
and outdated tar on Mac OS X 10.4.11. As long as this continues to
work OK out of the box, I'm fine with
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org wrote:
On 2009-Oct-31 19:58:21 -0700, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote:
through. Let me know if you know something better than google groups.
Why not host the mailing list in house? We have a domain name and
access to
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:34 PM, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org wrote:
On 2009-Oct-31 19:58:21 -0700, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote:
through. Let me know if you know something better than google groups.
Why not
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:42:41 Martin Albrecht wrote:
On Sunday 01 November 2009, François Bissey wrote:
By the way it looks like the sage version of polybori doesn't depend on
libm4ri
Can you clarify what you mean by that? Do you mean in the Makefile?
The sage Makefile or more precisely
Hello,
I continue a preceeding thread opened on the sage-days group. It is
better placed here, it concerns more developers than organizers.
http://groups.google.com/group/sage-combinat-days/browse_thread/thread/faf13e9077eebf0d
For SAGE days in Marseille (France), we aim to develop an
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Dr. David Kirkby
david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
Nathann Cohen wrote:
What would be the problem in using Sagemath, as it is the name of the
website for example ?
Besides, what is the use of such a procedure for Sage ?
I personally do not like Sagemath.
Libgcrypt is a package which has some assembly code routines. An option to the
configure script
--disable-asm
will disable the use of assembly code.
This is known to be necessary on OS X. I've also found it is essential on
Solaris SPARC in 64-bit mode. I've now found it is sometimes
Vincent,
I like your idea, and wonder if you might not post to sage-edu where I
know some secondary school teachers regularly read and post.
I noticed in your patch that you have some graph theory being
included. Will that include the graph constructors? In other words,
will commands like
I would love to have a script that converts old names in a whole
worksheet to new names. Every time someone deprecates an old name, he
could add the relevant line to the script.
Would that be possible? What I would love even more, is a notebook
conversion function such as the one that
Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
Libgcrypt is a package which has some assembly code routines. An option to
the
configure script
--disable-asm
will disable the use of assembly code.
This is known to be necessary on OS X. I've also found it is essential on
Solaris SPARC in 64-bit mode. I've
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Stan Schymanski schym...@gmail.com wrote:
I would love to have a script that converts old names in a whole
worksheet to new names. Every time someone deprecates an old name, he
could add the relevant line to the script.
Would that be possible? What I would
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