Re: [sage-devel] Re: SageManifolds Install Issue

2015-09-08 Thread Thierry
next reboot. Note also that this installation will not be transferred during a clone or upgrade of the key, since those operations aim at providing an unmodified version of SDL to the target key. Ciao, Thierry [1] http://isfahan.sciencesconf.org/ [2] http://sagedebianlive.metelu.net/

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Short fr, de, pt, ru translation

2015-08-27 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 27/08/2015 22:53, Jeroen Demeyer a écrit : On 2015-08-27 22:33, Thierry Dumont wrote: I prefer "Pour utiliser GAP" ou "Pour utiliser les fonctionnalités de GAP". "Pour des fonctionnalités GAP" is not correct french. Pour utiliser *certains* fonctionnalités

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Short fr, de, pt, ru translation

2015-08-27 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 27/08/2015 22:28, Eric Gourgoulhon a écrit : Pour des fonctionnalités GAP, vous devez installer deux paquetages Sage optionnels. Cela peut être fait avec la commande:: (A question to French colleagues: maybe "Pour des fonctionnalités GAP" should be replaced by "Pour utiliser GAP" or something

[sage-devel] Trac vs Wiki passwords

2015-08-22 Thread Thierry
Hi, trac and wiki accounts used to be linked (same username, same password). I changed my password on trac and it worked, but i can not use it on the wiki. Unfortunately, i am travelling and i do not have access to my previous password. How are the two system currently related ? Ciao, Thierry

Re: [sage-devel] Should sage -i install *dependencies* of packages?

2015-08-18 Thread Thierry
each another tool while eventually changing the packaging system. Concerning `sage -f`, isn't it more about rebuilding "backward dependencies" than dependencies ? Ciao, Thierry On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 06:00:56PM +0100, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > This question is because of discussion

Re: [sage-devel] Archive old-style spkg files [all of you can help to classify them]

2015-08-04 Thread Thierry
and there are still some for which it is not clear to me what to do, it may not be up-to-date since i started it during sage 6.7, but i guess it is a good starting point. Ciao, Thierry On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 05:48:06AM -0700, Volker Braun wrote: > Since it is a recurring point of confus

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Uganda teaching feedback

2015-07-19 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 01:01:40AM -0700, Dominique Laurain wrote: > Hello Viviane & Thierry, > > Very interesting feedbacks, thanks for sharing :-) > > Yes simple to go with USB keys, because now we can buy one 4Go at low > price. I am only worried about 1) how

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Uganda teaching feedback

2015-07-18 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 10:07:56AM +0300, Viviane Pons wrote: > Hi, > > To answer Thierry: I do remember your feedbacks from Burkina from a few > years ago. I was actually planning to bring live USB keys, the only reason > I didn't is because I didn't have the tim

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Uganda teaching feedback

2015-07-18 Thread Thierry
rnet, no need VM, ... > > If no need for sharing files, you have USB live SAGE too Note that, if your teaching material is ready before the workshop, you can put the files in the share/ folder of the seeder USB key and those will be transfered during the clones (the other personal data

Re: [sage-devel] Uganda teaching feedback

2015-07-17 Thread Thierry
various environments are not ended and very welcome). Concerning the Help link, this is the main reason why i am stick using Sage notebook over the IPython one during such workshops, i opened a ticket for this some time ago: http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17269 Ciao, Thierry On Fri, Jul 17, 2015

Re: [sage-devel] Spam on AskSage

2015-07-17 Thread Thierry
it is ok, i guess it is less frustrating to see a couple of spams than not being able to post. The frequency decreased already. Ciao, Thierry > > Johan > > Thierry writes: > > > in think we are in a semi-stable state now, all spam is removed, let's see > > if

Re: [sage-devel] Spam on AskSage

2015-07-17 Thread Thierry
in think we are in a semi-stable state now, all spam is removed, let's see if some spam comes again. Ciao, Thierry On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:04:07AM +0200, Thierry wrote: > Hi, > > actually, this started yersterday morning already, and there are many > pages full of this (a

Re: [sage-devel] Spam on AskSage

2015-07-17 Thread Thierry
, tell me, i will add you as an admin. Unfortunately i can not add you in the sage-askbot-admin google group, but i hope the manager of that list could do this. Ciao, Thierry On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:28:13AM +0200, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I do not know who among us

Re: [sage-devel] Heuristics to approximate matrix bandwidth

2015-07-13 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 13/07/2015 10:36, michele.bora...@imtlucca.it a écrit : Hi all! My name is Michele Borassi, and I recently entered this great community for a Google Summer of Code project. Among other works, I am including in Sage an algorithm for computing the Cuthill-McKee and the King orderings [1,2], whic

Re: [sage-devel] Problems installing package qepcad

2015-06-26 Thread Thierry
and qepcad, which do amazing things, they seem to build and run on Linux and (at least one) mac now, and #10224 needs review. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivin

Re: [sage-devel] Re: patchbot help

2015-06-16 Thread Thierry
l/patchbot$20sagedev/sage-devel/NzS6MKnXbMQ/-tQwUzo4u90J This will allow running patchbot within a VM without any effort, and i guess more people will be willing to provide some ressources for that. Ciao, Thierry On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:08:29AM +0100, John Cremona wrote: > On 14 June 2015 a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: dpkg: error processing package sagemath-upstream-binary (--configure):

2015-06-02 Thread Thierry
de with SAGE_FAT_BINARY='yes' SAGE_INSTALL_GCC='yes' in particular, libgfortran is not required since fortran is built as a part of Sage. Ptestlong did not report any reproducible error and i can use the produced Debian/jessie/32bit binary in Sage Debian Live without problem. Ciao, Thierr

Re: [sage-devel] MathJax limit for TeX expression in notebook

2015-06-01 Thread Thierry
Hi, see http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18577 Could you please tell if it fixes your real-life examples (both in sagenb and ipython notebooks) ? Ciao, Thierry On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 02:57:19AM -0700, Michal Bejger wrote: > Hi Thierry, > > Using SageManifolds, I can produce long

Re: [sage-devel] MathJax limit for TeX expression in notebook

2015-05-31 Thread Thierry
Hi, it is doable, especially since the bound on MAXBUFFER seems to aim only at avoiding infinite loops. Could you please send an easy way to produce such huge formula in Sage so that i can test further ? Ciao, Thierry On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 02:21:01PM -0700, Michal Bejger wrote: > Dear S

[sage-devel] patchbot vs sagedev.py doctest

2015-05-30 Thread Thierry
--- Total time for all tests: 39.5 seconds cpu time: 7.7 seconds cumulative wall time: 39.3 seconds The same problem appears on Debian/Ubuntu, 32/64 bits, various releases, see http://patchbot.sagemath.org/ticket/0/ Any idea of what could

[sage-devel] sage and jupyterhub

2015-05-28 Thread Thierry Dumont
My question is possibly stupid, but I could not find a satisfying answer by googling... Can sage work with *jupyterhub*? Or will it be possible? I am planing to build a jupyterhub server for the French mathematician community, and, of course, it would be cool to run sage in it. Yours, t;d. --

Re: [sage-devel] Re: upgrading and doc.

2015-05-18 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 18/05/2015 23:03, Volker Braun a écrit : > Sounds good to me... Do you have a ticket? > Not yet but, I'll certainly make one... > On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 10:11:20 PM UTC+2, tdumont wrote: > > I have justeupgraded sage from 6.6 to 6.7 doing "sage -upgrade". > As every time I did t

[sage-devel] upgrading and doc.

2015-05-18 Thread Thierry Dumont
I have justeupgraded sage from 6.6 to 6.7 doing "sage -upgrade". As every time I did this, everything went well, except that, at the end, I had to do a make doc-clean. This time, the message which is something like "you should do make doc-clean" did not appear. I think this is a bit annoyin

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is Sage living in a state of emergency ?

2015-05-18 Thread Thierry
od, but they got destroyed if the building burns). Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co

[sage-devel] Is Sage living in a state of emergency ?

2015-05-17 Thread Thierry
s the community. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send emai

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread Thierry
rvals of versions would certainly help in "making Sage distribution friendly", but it will probably require much more patchbots to ensure this. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread Thierry
nused or do not deal with mathematics (e.g. trac, nose, beautifulsoup,...). Ciao, Thierry > > > > On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 3:57:47 PM UTC+2, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > > > > That's perhaps a bit problematic at the moment; also, at least some > > &g

Re: [sage-devel] Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread Thierry
migrate the useful ones as new-style, then such listing would be trivial to write (and not require internet connection). The main question is: which old-style spkgs are worth being saved (as for Sage Debian Live, the only missing is nauty), and how to establish such a list ? Ciao, Thierry On

Re: [sage-devel] Re: pynac may require C++11 in Sage

2015-04-28 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 29/04/2015 02:28, Volker Braun a écrit : +1 to requiring C++11 support. IMHO that added a number of really nice refinements of the language, if you aren't using it yet for a C++ project then you are making a mistake. +1 I am developing extensively in C++: C++11 offers many interesting i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sagenb shut down

2015-04-26 Thread Thierry
hints to other services, and a deadline to fetch the tarball (there is no reason to keep private worksheets eternally). Ciao, Thierry On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 09:49:22PM +0200, Vincent Delecroix wrote: > On 26/04/15 21:41, William Stein wrote: > >On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 12:17 PM

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Can't build Sage with 2GB RAM anymore

2015-04-21 Thread Thierry
Hi, could this mean that there is some issue with Cython compilation (e.g. memory leak) ? Ciao, Thierry On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:24:07AM +0200, leif wrote: > On 04/21/2015 08:27 AM, Simon King wrote: > > On 2015-04-21, Clemens Heuberger wrote: > >> I have a somewhat rela

Re: [sage-devel] Can't build Sage with 2GB RAM anymore

2015-04-20 Thread Thierry
Hi, i confirm i had the same issue on a "Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2050 @ 1.60GHz" with 1GB of RAM (+1.5GB swap), the build of 6.5 was sucessful, but get stuck for 6.6. Ciao, Thierry On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 09:33:24AM -0700, Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: > Hello, > > Up to Sag

[sage-devel] proprecation ? sandbox ?

2015-04-02 Thread Thierry
policy. What should be the right way to avoid that ? Should we offer a kind of test-sage ? Should we propose a kind of proprecation warning that says "This code is very new and its design is not foolproof. Its design might change.". What do you think ? Ciao, Thierry -- You rec

[sage-devel] tons of builds for 32 bits

2015-03-27 Thread Thierry
it,...). The buildchain should be able to build all 64 bits as well, but Sage 6.6 is at the corner so i will wait for its release and for feedback about the current builds. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel"

Re: [sage-devel] Sage code "for educational purposes only"?

2015-03-02 Thread Thierry
s indeed easier to find primes-related methods, for example, how can i discover the existence of the next_prime() function from the tab completion ? Ciao, Thierry > Jeroen. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" gro

Re: [sage-devel] bug when using numpy.percentile

2015-02-25 Thread Thierry
://ask.sagemath.org is more appropriate for such questions. Ciao, Thierry On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 08:13:35AM -0800, Stan wrote: > Dear all, > > I just ran into a bug in sage, which is reproducible both in my local Sage > 6.3, 6.5 and on sage-cloud using the sage notebook but no

Re: [sage-devel] sage-6.5.1?

2015-02-20 Thread Thierry
s only a few of them and there were quite a few people unable to install Sage without having to compile it themselves (which means : not having Sage until you meet some developper). Hence, i worked recently on building all possible (32,64 x precise,trusty,utopic) binaries for Ubuntu in a row (and D

Re: [sage-devel] Sage is grown up; needs a last name

2015-02-18 Thread Thierry
d wikis. So, +1 for Sagemath +1 for sagemath -1 for SageMath -1 for [Ss]age[Mm]aths (plural) Ciao, Thierry On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 07:13:03AM -0500, William Stein wrote: > Hi Sage Developers, > > Several people and events have suggested to me that the official name > of "Sage" s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage is grown up; needs a last name

2015-02-18 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 18/02/2015 17:03, mmarco a écrit : > +1 to the change. > > Sagemath sounds more natural than Sagemaths to me. > > Should we update the way to cite it accordingly? > As a French guy, I would remark that our Holy Nicolas Bourbaki would certainly appreciate "Sagemath" or "SageMath" but not "Sag

Re: [sage-devel] Re: An index for Sage pedagogical ressources

2015-02-13 Thread Thierry
stem), so you connected just at the critical moment, sorry, please tell if it works now: https://sageindex.lipn.univ-paris13.fr/ http://sageindex.lipn.univ-paris13.fr/ Ciao, Thierry > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel

[sage-devel] An index for Sage pedagogical ressources

2015-02-11 Thread Thierry
ir material. However, it was not clear to us whether we should work on sws rendering or wait for ipynb to become a standard for Sage worksheets. In order to ease collective maintenance and knowledge sharing, the same stack as the one for http://ask.sagemath.org is used (django, postgresql, nginx, uw

Re: [sage-devel] sage -n ipython broken

2015-02-11 Thread Thierry
ok' -o "$1" = '-n' ]; then shift sage-cleaner >/dev/null 2>&1 & exec sage-notebook --notebook=default "$@" fi where, when the '-n' option is passed explicitely use the default notebook. It was introduced in http://git.sagemath.org

Re: [sage-devel] Re: polytopes.n_simplex(3).show() does nothing ?

2015-02-11 Thread Thierry
7, just do next: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre icedtea-7-plugin Ciao, Thierry On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 01:14:11PM +0100, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hmmm... I am a bit embarassed, I do not know really how to 'fix' that. > > Nathann > > On 11 February 2015 at 12

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Convex hull in Sage

2015-02-11 Thread Thierry
/scipy.spatial.ConvexHull.html#scipy.spatial.ConvexHull https://github.com/scipy/scipy/blob/master/scipy/spatial/qhull.pyx Ciao, Thierry On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 01:08:04PM +0100, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Yo ! > > > I don't know if PPL does any of these

Re: [sage-devel] Is CMake OK for a standard spkg?

2015-02-06 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 06/02/2015 08:15, Francois Bissey a écrit : > Cmake is a reverse approach compared to autotools. You need cmake installed > to configure the software. The system to build (make or something else) is > somewhat OS dependent. autotool generate a script and you don’t need > auto tool installed on

Re: [sage-devel] Can a Parent have different Element classes?

2015-02-04 Thread Thierry
e: A = cos(x) sage: B = units.charge.coulomb sage: parent(A) is parent(B) True sage: type(A) is not type(B) True (though UnitExpression inherits from Expression) Ciao, Thierry > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" gro

Re: [sage-devel] What are we unable to do right now ?

2015-02-03 Thread Thierry
e detail! :-) If you want potentially interested people to look at it, you should repost this e-mail on a separate thread with a related title (i know some interested people that did not read that thread). Ciao, Thierry > Benjamin > > > PS: sorry for digging out this old thread, b

Re: [sage-devel] A 'pip' issue

2015-01-30 Thread Thierry
Hi, note that a new version of openssl is available, and a trivial ticket (that needs review) could be merged before 6.5 at http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17691 Ciao, Thierry On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 03:28:14PM +0100, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello, > > > actually, the issue is a l

Re: [sage-devel] A 'pip' issue

2015-01-29 Thread Thierry
ould be to ship e.g. gnutls or nss (which are LGPL, MozillaPL) as a standard package and try to build python/pip with it (not sure it is doable). Ciao, Thierry On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:12:33AM +0100, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I tried yesterday to install a Python pac

Re: [sage-devel] sage .sage with containing "-n"

2015-01-28 Thread Thierry
> > Is this a known bug? Is there a workaround? A fix? This is indeed a bug (wrong regex). See http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17685 Ciao, Thierry > > Samuel > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscr

Re: [sage-devel] reducing upstream tarballs in a reproducible way

2015-01-12 Thread Thierry
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 04:47:55PM +0530, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello Thierry ! > > What about checking that there is nothing wrong without a hashsum ? > > 1) Download the author's .tar.bz2 file > 2) Use the sage-src script to generate the .tar.bz2 file yourself > 3

[sage-devel] reducing upstream tarballs in a reproducible way

2015-01-12 Thread Thierry
/tests/baseline_images/* find matplotlib-1.4.2 | sort | tar --no-recursion -cj --format=gnu --mtime='1970-01-01 01:00' --group=0 --owner=0 -f matplotlib-1.4.2.tar.bz2 -T - shasum matplotlib-1.4.2.tar.bz2 Thanks, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Should we remove "Packaging Old-Style SPKG" from the developer's manual ?

2015-01-06 Thread Thierry
"sage -optional" and "sage -standard" commands, they currently lists old version found on the web while with a complete move to the new-style packaging it will suffice to look at the local build/pkgs directory. Ciao, Thierry On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 01:18:32PM +0530, Natha

Re: [sage-devel] The dimension of a Poset: do you know how to compute that ?

2014-12-22 Thread Thierry
for problems that do not have specific algorithms in the litterature. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@goo

Re: [sage-devel] The dimension of a Poset: do you know how to compute that ?

2014-12-22 Thread Thierry
Hi, it seems there is an algorithm based on graph colouring (about what Sage knows a bit already), you can have a look at http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0196677498909749 (i succeeded to download the pdf so email me if you need it) Ciao, Thierry On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 01:19

Re: [sage-devel] Default behaviour of Graph(list_of_edges) wrt multiedges/loops

2014-12-11 Thread Thierry
l not have to add screamings everywhere to enter official Sage code, because this care is done by creating a class that inherits from SimpleGraph. Ciao, Thierry On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 02:01:02AM +0530, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello everybody ! > > I created a ticket 11 months ago,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: User Survey

2014-12-08 Thread Thierry Dumont
From my point of view, the sage-devel list is turning a bit funny. Ok, this is the end of the year but I do not think that people have started to drink (at least, they certainly do not drink in front of their computer). These problems related to energy, ecology, and so on are certainly very

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-06 Thread Thierry Dumont
Hi, If I read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risch_algorithm I understand that : f=x/(sqrt(x^4+10*x^2-96*x-71)) has an anti-primitive. I do not have maple, so I do nt know if Maple can integrate it; bur sage cannot: >f=x/(sqrt(x^4+10*x^2-96*x-71)) >integral(f,x) integrate(x/sqrt(x^4 + 10*

Re: [sage-devel] PyClaw

2014-12-03 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 09:30:12AM -0500, David Joyner wrote: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Thierry > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > perhaps this does not even require maintaining a spkg, does the following > > work ? > > > > sage -i pip > &

Re: [sage-devel] Re: PyClaw

2014-12-03 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 03/12/2014 11:32, Simon King a écrit : > Hi Thierry, > > On 2014-12-03, Thierry Dumont wrote: >>> sage -i pip >>> sage -pip install clawpack >> >> But is it the good way to do? >> Is it not better to have an uniform method for installin

Re: [sage-devel] PyClaw

2014-12-03 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 03/12/2014 09:35, Thierry a écrit : > Hi, > > perhaps this does not even require maintaining a spkg, does the following > work ? > > sage -i pip > sage -pip install clawpack > > Ciao, > Thierry > may be. But is it the good way to do? Is it not bet

Re: [sage-devel] PyClaw

2014-12-03 Thread Thierry
Hi, perhaps this does not even require maintaining a spkg, does the following work ? sage -i pip sage -pip install clawpack Ciao, Thierry On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:41:35AM +0100, Thierry Dumont wrote: > I would like to know if anybody tried to install PyClaw in Sage. >

[sage-devel] PyClaw

2014-12-02 Thread Thierry Dumont
I would like to know if anybody tried to install PyClaw in Sage. http://www.clawpack.org/doc/pyclaw/ I am interested, and I propose to make an spkg. Yours t.d. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [sage-devel] Re: proposed amendment to code of conduct

2014-11-29 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 12:40:16PM +0100, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 06:09:44AM +0100, Thierry wrote: > > OK, sorry if i misunderstood, you seemed to support a vote about that > > (even proposing a third alternative name) since your message was: >

Re: [sage-devel] The "code of conduct" is getting out of hand - please stop for 2 weeks.

2014-11-29 Thread Thierry
Hi, +1 Thanks for this proposition, i definitely agree with that (though i was part of the mess), and i will not post on this subject on sage-devel for the next two weeks. Mailing-list (which require quick response) seems not the appropriate format to discuss such issues. Ciao, Thierry On

Re: [sage-devel] Re: proposed amendment to code of conduct

2014-11-28 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 07:27:38PM +0100, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 06:58:00PM +0100, Thierry wrote: > > No, there is no consensus at all. It is not because a few people are going > > round on some naming issue that all other issues are settled (no

Re: [sage-devel] Re: proposed amendment to code of conduct

2014-11-28 Thread Thierry
of contradiction. If we want a text that does not divide the community, we have to accept that this takes time. "Botching" a solution that will add some people on the pro side to ensure a stronger majority is not the right way. Ciao, Thierry > As I said earlier, I'd be very fine

Re: [sage-devel] coeffs() & coefficients()

2014-11-28 Thread Thierry
nzero' much easier to understand than 'sparse' in this context. Ciao, Thierry On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:06:31PM -0800, john_perry_usm wrote: > Hello Sages > > Last week (?) I noticed that a program I wrote was making a mistake, > because f.coeffs() and f.coef

Re: [sage-devel] Re: When/by who/how was the "code of conduct" initiated ?

2014-11-26 Thread Thierry
mathematics. The problem is precisely here : requiring ethics from the other in an unethical way hurts. The problem is not only about the content of the text, but about the way it was enforced, written by a hidden group, voted without possible modification, and so on (i will not repeat all argument

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

2014-11-26 Thread Thierry
rs, for sage-abuse issues. But to make it clear that we > care about sage-abuse issues and make clear the existence of > sage-flame." I could not find Volker's statement on the public mailing-list, could you please provide a link ? Ciao, Thierry > This would mean it is

Re: [sage-devel] What to do with sage-abuse

2014-11-25 Thread Thierry
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 05:06:25PM +0100, Viviane Pons wrote: > Hi all, > > one of the questions that was raised by Thierry and not answered (there > were other non answered questions but I'm interested in this one in > particular) is who is in charge of sage-ab...@google

Re: [sage-devel] VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-24 Thread Thierry
NO ! I can not participate to this, this call for vote is both paternalistic and violent. Since i can not explain why here, please read more details at: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/sage-devel/PjU2YQn3ca4 Ciao, Thierry On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 04:47:33PM -0800, William

[sage-devel] Decision making (refuse to vote)

2014-11-24 Thread Thierry
hread, Vincent opened a page for this on the wiki. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co

Re: [sage-devel] Code of Conduct (missing dependencies)

2014-11-24 Thread Thierry
. I am not good in this register, and i am sorry for this sentence (which was not even my point). I sincerely want to apologize for this. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group an

Re: [sage-devel] Code of Conduct (missing dependencies)

2014-11-24 Thread Thierry
revious post), they are only 1.5% in free software development (6% is the highest estimation i found on the web), this difference can not be found on societal picture, but within our developments models. So, while learning about existing governance models is necessary, we have to find our way. Having a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Call qsort from cython code .... with an inlined comparison function ?!

2014-11-23 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 23/11/2014 20:53, Jeroen Demeyer a écrit : On 2014-11-23 19:05, Thierry Dumont wrote: Vtune shows, for example, that a call to std::copy is not as fast as a for loop, which is turned by the compiler in a memcopy (probably std::copy is not!). If that's the case, get a better C++ com

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Call qsort from cython code .... with an inlined comparison function ?!

2014-11-23 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 23/11/2014 19:09, Nathann Cohen a écrit : Hello ! What about likwid https://code.google.com/p/likwid ? It is free. Did somebody used it to measure cython code performances? Never tried vtune, nor likwid. What is the size of what you are sorting ? If it is small enough to fit in the cache

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Call qsort from cython code .... with an inlined comparison function ?!

2014-11-23 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 23/11/2014 19:07, Francesco Biscani a écrit : On 23 November 2014 at 18:07, Volker Braun mailto:vbraun.n...@gmail.com>> wrote: C++ std::sort will be able to inline the comparator. Just look at the assembly code:-) +1 std::sort() will do exactly what you describe, only in a type-safe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Call qsort from cython code .... with an inlined comparison function ?!

2014-11-23 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 23/11/2014 18:07, Volker Braun a écrit : Did you profile your code on the C-level? e.g. using gprof? As a rule of thumb, guesses about where the bottleneck is are wrong :-) Its entirely conceivable that branch prediction and speculative execution solve this already for you. Is gprof enough

Re: [sage-devel] checkout for closed tickets which are not yet in develop

2014-11-15 Thread Thierry
al: The remote end hung up unexpectedly And manually "git fetch trac 969de52313ee407d874e9f7b318111c144de534e" did not work either. Ciao, Thierry On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 06:52:22PM +0100, Clemens Heuberger wrote: > The release manager recently closed ticket #16747, but it is not ye

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The Misfortunes of a Trio of Mathematicians Using Computer Algebra Systems

2014-11-12 Thread Thierry
os, the blue screen of death is a good way to ask for help in the assembly, speak about free software, and so on, we are not just selling a product. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from thi

Re: [sage-devel] please review the last blocker ticket...

2014-11-11 Thread Thierry
Hi, not sure if there is still time, the following openssl security update waits for (easy) review http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17312 Ciao, Thierry On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 03:23:14PM -0800, Volker Braun wrote: > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17284 > > -- > You received

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Slowness in comparing symbolic expressions

2014-11-07 Thread Thierry
: s = exp(512*(x+1)) - 1 In [4]: %time s == 0 CPU times: user 0.00 s, sys: 0.00 s, total: 0.00 s Wall time: 0.00 s Out[4]: False Ciao, Thierry > best > > Robert Dodier > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel&

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Should we ship vanilla upstream tarballs or stripped-down ones?

2014-11-05 Thread Thierry
a workaround. In the longer term, it could be nice to have a --slow option or something like that, the difficulty will be to let this work on any machine, so preferably with some urllib python standard stuff. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Should we ship vanilla upstream tarballs or stripped-down ones?

2014-11-05 Thread Thierry
empts because in the download duration, there is always a timeout at some point that forces to redownload everything from the beginning. A manual solution is to use repeated "wget --continue" within the upstream/ directory, which 'sage -i' is not offering by default. I am not sure

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ipython notebook

2014-11-02 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 02/11/2014 23:36, Samuel Lelievre a écrit : 2014-11-02 08:35:25 UTC, tdumont: Le 23/10/2014 10:40, Volker Braun a écrit : > Did you run "make" after pulling the git branch? The zeromq and pyzmq > packages are new and need to be compiled. > > > On Thursday, Oc

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ipython notebook

2014-11-02 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 23/10/2014 10:40, Volker Braun a écrit : Did you run "make" after pulling the git branch? The zeromq and pyzmq packages are new and need to be compiled. On Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:57:46 AM UTC+1, Jori Mantysalo wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Volker Braun wrote: > Its in 6.4.beta

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Interested in co-writing an article?

2014-10-11 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 12/10/2014 06:12, rjf a écrit : On Friday, October 10, 2014 6:26:24 PM UTC-7, Alasdair wrote: I've written an article about using Sage to develop explicit Runge-Kutta formulas for the numerical solution of ODEs. Since the use of a computer algebra system to develop explicit R-K fo

Re: [sage-devel] Interested in co-writing an article?

2014-10-10 Thread Thierry Dumont
I am very interested by what you have developped. It looks a bit like what I am doing. I 'll contact you directly. yours t. Le 11/10/2014 03:26, Alasdair a écrit : I've written an article about using Sage to develop explicit Runge-Kutta formulas for the numerical solution of ODEs. I've sent

Re: [sage-devel] Best way to store a database?

2014-09-27 Thread Thierry
rces vs distributing binaries). Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage package bash?

2014-09-26 Thread Thierry
machines without a system-wide bash. I am not sure Sage should adapt its code to such arbitrary decisions, there have been some Linux kernel critical bugs, not sure we can afford removing such a dependency if some incompetent sysadmins suddenly decide to get rid of their kernel instead of upgrading

Re: [sage-devel] Re: pyzmq not installing

2014-09-06 Thread Thierry
emath.org/sage.git/tree/build/pkgs/pyzmq/SPKG.txt > - the default is to not use the system wide libraries This recurrent question is related to all packages and the general build/distribution system. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

Re: [sage-devel] propcalc vs sat

2014-09-03 Thread Thierry
re since it not a part of the code that i know well. Ciao, Thierry > Cheers, > Martin > > On Tuesday 02 Sep 2014 22:05:29 Thierry wrote: > > Hi, > > > > looking at this ask question : > > http://ask.sagemath.org/question/24024/satisfying-assignments/ i tr

[sage-devel] propcalc vs sat

2014-09-02 Thread Thierry
not figure out how to use this string to create a DIMACS instance. Looking at the DIMACS class, it seems there are only methods to write DIMACS files, but i could not find anything to read such files. Any hint ? Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-09-01 Thread Thierry
curriculum in England. I'm > not sure by what age, but given people can leave school at 16 here, it > will be before 16. Given mathmaticians are going to be using > Mathematical software, teaching them enough of the OS on which that > software runs is probably not a bad idea. I beli

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-09-01 Thread Thierry
Burkina Faso, France, Italy, Mexico, Spain, USA and China (though those two seem for individual use, not classroom). Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fro

Re: [sage-devel] reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-27 Thread Thierry
the > preparsing off... Definitely: sage: preparser(False) sage: 3^3 0 So, since we have a preparser, it should be easy to get rid of the leading '%', replace brackets by parenthesis, and replace 'off' by 'False'. The problem with this method would be to turn the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SageMathCloud / closed source / GPL / Spirit of Sage??

2014-08-15 Thread Thierry
as there is a huge advertising of SMC on the sagemath.org front page, and since the development of SMC is (partially) funded by the Sage foundation (whose aim is "To support the development of the mathematical software system SAGE."), this is not really possible. Ciao, Thierry -- Yo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: creation of tmp files names is not lexicographic anymore

2014-07-01 Thread Thierry
='/tmp')[1] with open(file_path, 'w') as f: f.write('hop') Ciao, Thierry On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 10:06:18AM -0700, Niles Johnson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 12:45:57 PM UTC-4, Nils Bruin wrote: > > > > > >

[sage-devel] link to git.sagemath.org

2014-06-17 Thread Thierry
when i click on 'refs', in both case i go to http://git.sagemath.org/sage.git/refs/ which shows that the 'develop' branch is 6.3.beta1 (not beta3). Are there two repos conflicting there, or perhaps a caching issue ? Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subs

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