Re: [scifinoir2] Don't See SAW

2008-11-19 Thread Bosco Bosco
With horror films, gore or no, it's pretty easy. If it's made by an American Studio, it's most likely gonna suck. American horror films tend toward extreme suckage so often that they're rarely worth watching even if you get in for free. B --- On Tue, 11/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Batman Series The Brave and The Bold Debuts on Cartoon Network--Now

2008-11-19 Thread Omari Confer
Why put Johnny Quest in a virtual environment...that is silly. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: great story! -- Original message -- From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith, I didn't watch Ren and Stimpy when it first came on. My

[scifinoir2] Re: FW: Scalzi: Do Science Fiction Movies Still Need Theaters?

2008-11-19 Thread B. Smith
John Scalzi is a science fiction writer and author of the Old Man's War series. He has a couple of blogs: http://whatever.scalzi.com/ and his blog over at AMC. http://blogs.amctv.com/scifi-scanner/2008/11/do-scifi-movies-need- theaters.php --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart

Re: [scifinoir2] Don't See SAW

2008-11-19 Thread KeithBJohnson
Agreed. Remember a year or so ago there was a news story published about a recent study on what kinds of horror movies scare people in different countries? I think Tracey published the article here. One thing it pointed out was that in Asian countries like South Korea, audiences found the

[scifinoir2] Re: Don't See SAW

2008-11-19 Thread ravenadal
I still champion the first SAW movie as a text book example of how a fledgling filmmaker can get maximum bang with minimum buck. Director James Wan and his co-writer Leigh Whannell turned all their disadvantages as filmmakers - no budget, no-name cast (with the notable exception of one Danny

[scifinoir2] Re: Don't See SAW

2008-11-19 Thread B. Smith
I think that the American psyche finds it easier to deal with the in your face gore rather than the psychological or supernatural stuff that works overseas. There are exceptions of course like the The Blair Witch Project and Session 9 from the U.S. which worked the psychological horror vein

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Batman Series The Brave and The Bold Debuts on Cartoon Network--Now

2008-11-19 Thread Martin Baxter
Thank you! -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Batman Series The Brave and The Bold Debuts on Cartoon Network--Now Date : Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:10:35 + From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com great story!

Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Scalzi: Do Science Fiction Movies Still Need Theaters?

2008-11-19 Thread Martin Baxter
Daryle, I've noticed that digital copy thing on several other movies that were released on DVD recently. If memory serves, they even re-released Casino Royale to add one onto it. If only I could puzzle out those illicit download services... -[ Received Mail Content ]--

Re: [scifinoir2] Don't See SAW

2008-11-19 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, my first thought into your statement is that America is a culture that has been hyperobsessed with ultraviolence for years. We gave the world Dirty Harry, Die Hard, Lethal Weapon and other paens to carnage. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2]

[RE][scifinoir2] FW: Scalzi: Do Science Fiction Movies Still Need Theaters?

2008-11-19 Thread Martin Baxter
Brent, this speaks directly to something that either rave or Daryle said here sometime back, that the model for movie viewing has changed drastically during our lives. It's easier to market a movie to someone with a Mac or a PC than it is to toss it into a theater, looking to clear money after

Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW

2008-11-19 Thread Martin Baxter
;-D -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW Date : Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:16:51 -0800 (PST) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com OMG Martin Sink me, I LOVE IT. God I haven't heard that in a long

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] FW: Scalzi: Do Science Fiction Movies Still Need Theaters?

2008-11-19 Thread Daryle Lockhart
Been meaning to ask you (and folks like you) this, Martin: What about the $2 theaters? Is it just price that's frustrating you about the theaters? If the ticket and snacks were cheaper, would you PREFER a larger screen? On Nov 18, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Brent, this speaks

[scifinoir2] Re: Don't See SAW

2008-11-19 Thread B. Smith
Don't forget about The Wild Bunch. That movie changed cinema. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, my first thought into your statement is that America is a culture that has been hyperobsessed with ultraviolence for years. We gave the world Dirty

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Don't See SAW

2008-11-19 Thread KeithBJohnson
You raise some good points that I should have addressed earlier. First, there have been a couple of films that were made in America, or did well here, that were more atmospheric and suspenseful than violent and gory. The Blair Witch Project and The Others are good examples. Both did very well

[scifinoir2] Korean Film the Host gets Americanized

2008-11-19 Thread Tracey de Morsella
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/korean-mutant-squid-flick-the-host-gett ing-americanized BY: Brad Brevet http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/author/bradbrevet/ | November 19th 2008 at 2:45 AM Korean http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/korean-mutant-squid-flick-the-host-get

[scifinoir2] FW: [AFAMHED] Science ED Fun: 3D 'Nanobamas' Smaller Than A Grain Of Salt

2008-11-19 Thread Tracey de Morsella
From: African-Americans in Higher Education [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S. E. Anderson Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AFAMHED] Science ED Fun: 3D 'Nanobamas' Smaller Than A Grain Of Salt

[scifinoir2] Hong Kong Plans To Revive Its Film Industry

2008-11-19 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Hong Kong Plans To Revive Its Film Industry 18 November 2008 1:31 AM, PST While at its peak in the 1990s, the Hong Kong film industry was churning out more than 300 movies a year. That number fell to 50 last year and is expected to be even lower still this year, Wellington Fung Wing, secretary

Re: [scifinoir2] Don't See SAW

2008-11-19 Thread KeithBJohnson
Sad but true. I still just don't get why we lean more in that direction than the other side. I love good mindless violence and action as much as the next guy, including the ones you referenced below. Love hyperactive fluff like Face Off. But not all the time... -- Original message

[scifinoir2] National Treasure (Part Deux)

2008-11-19 Thread ravenadal
I fell asleep at 9 pm yesterday and woke up at 3 am. Wide awake in the middle of the night I decided to channel surf the plethora of movie channels at my disposal since my upgrade to ATT U-Verse. I stumbled upon the last segment of THE DEAD GIRL which features Brittany Murphy (as the titular

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] FW: Scalzi: Do Science Fiction Movies Still Need Theaters?

2008-11-19 Thread KeithBJohnson
Mr. Old School here. I still like the movie going experience because it's where I can share it with a whole bunch of people, which is half the fun. And I still think that even when I can afford to get that 50-inch plasma screen, I'll still find the overall physical appeal of a big screen

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Scalzi: Do Science Fiction Movies Still Need Theaters?

2008-11-19 Thread brent wodehouse
Thanks B. Daryle, the second link will find you safely at the article's origin. Brent B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Scalzi is a science fiction writer and author of the Old Man's War series. He has a couple of blogs: [ http://whatever.scalzi.com/ ]http://whatever.scalzi.com/

Re: [scifinoir2] Korean Film the Host gets Americanized

2008-11-19 Thread KeithBJohnson
We were discussing stuff like this. Never get the American need to remake so many foreign films. Despite this guy's take, the original --which was released here last year--was received well by those who saw it. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL

Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure (Part Deux)

2008-11-19 Thread KeithBJohnson
I hated the first film, but your review has me thinking i'll give this one a chance.. good review -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I fell asleep at 9 pm yesterday and woke up at 3 am. Wide awake in the middle of the night I decided to channel

Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure (Part Deux)

2008-11-19 Thread Mike Street
I liked both of the films and if they make a 3rd I will see that one also. I liked the puzzle solving and running around of it all. It was the perfect series of Nick Cage to be in cause he can actually be his age and not try to look young with hair pluggins. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:02 PM,

RE: [scifinoir2] Korean Film the Host gets Americanized

2008-11-19 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I kind of agreed with him. While it was okay, after reading rave reviews, it was kind of a letdown. Maybe if my expectations had not been built up. Have you seen it? What did you think? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure (Part Deux)

2008-11-19 Thread Grayson Reyes-Cole
Ahem... I liked it, too for all those reasons. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008   --- On Wed, 11/19/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ravenadal

[scifinoir2] FW: [CarlBrandon] Diversity in Speculative Fiction

2008-11-19 Thread Tracey de Morsella
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Constance Burris Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:22 AM To: - Subject: [CarlBrandon] Diversity in Speculative Fiction http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/fantasymag/~3/458527216/ Diversity in Speculative Fiction Paula R.

[scifinoir2] Re: Don't See SAW

2008-11-19 Thread B. Smith
I think the rest of the world likes violence just as much as the U.S. But where the U.S. movies exhibit a certain kind of carnage other places in the world have their own movies that do the same. I think the reason we don't see as many quality, quiet horrors is that they don't go over well to

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] FW: Scalzi: Do Science Fiction Movies Still Need Theaters?

2008-11-19 Thread brent wodehouse
Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brent, this speaks directly to something that either rave or Daryle said here sometime back, that the model for movie viewing has changed drastically during our lives. It's easier to market a movie to someone with a Mac or a PC than it is to toss it into a

[scifinoir2] Re: Korean Film the Host gets Americanized

2008-11-19 Thread B. Smith
Te first time I saw The Host I was a bit disappointed until I ruminated on it a bit. Then I had an aha moment. The Host is a good monster movie but it's a great family drama. The monster stuff is the sizzle but the family story is the meat of the picture. The monster is just the engine that

[scifinoir2] Re: Hong Kong Plans To Revive Its Film Industry

2008-11-19 Thread B. Smith
Good news for HK film lovers. They do have a tough hill to climb because South Korea, Japan and Thailand have upped the ante and made awesome films while the HK industry was slumping. There are still good films coming out of HK like SPL and Triad Election but they aren't the powerhouse they

[RE][scifinoir2] FW: [AFAMHED] Science ED Fun: 3D 'Nanobamas' Smaller Than A Grain Of Salt

2008-11-19 Thread Martin Baxter
Completely cool. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] FW: [AFAMHED] Science ED Fun: 3D 'Nanobamas' Smaller Than A Grain Of Salt Date : Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:49:43 -0800 From : Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : CINQUE [EMAIL PROTECTED],

[RE][scifinoir2] National Treasure (Part Deux)

2008-11-19 Thread Martin Baxter
(looking at the subject line and time-stamp...) *Now* I know what all of that screaming was about in the northern part of the county. Breathe, Keith... ;-D And I too like the dialogue in the movie. I don't deal well with dumb people in real life, and seeing them on film is truly excruciating

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] FW: Scalzi: Do Science Fiction Movies Still Need Theaters?

2008-11-19 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, an entrepreneur in my end of the county tried to open a third dine-and-watch last year. Well, he did, but he sorely missed his tsrget demographic, and had to close after less than eight months open. I never did get to take it in. A couple of neighbors of mine raved about it.

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: Don't See SAW

2008-11-19 Thread Martin Baxter
Thank you, B. Loathe of me to forget that, especially since I watched it a couple of weeks ago. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: Don't See SAW Date : Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:32:35 - From : B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To :

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Korean Film the Host gets Americanized

2008-11-19 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I would agree that the family facing the crisis while giving the view a good look at the dynamic of that family was appealing. However, I still think the movie was over rated. That being said, I'm kind of glad it was hyped or I might not have sought it out. So many of my favorite foreign films

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] FW: Scalzi: Do Science Fiction Movies Still Need Theaters?

2008-11-19 Thread Martin Baxter
I don't think it would, Daryle. For one thing, I don't think that there *are* anymore $2 theaters anywhere in my area. Last I looked there was one way up in northern Gwinnett County, about an hour's drive from my house. And, perhaps more germane to my sitch, (nod to Keith for reminding me of

RE: [scifinoir2] Korean Film the Host gets Americanized

2008-11-19 Thread KeithBJohnson
I haven't seen it yet. It's on the list for wintertime viewing -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] I kind of agreed with him. While it was okay, after reading rave reviews, it was kind of a letdown. Maybe if my expectations had not been

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] FW: Scalzi: Do Science Fiction Movies Still Need Theaters?

2008-11-19 Thread KeithBJohnson
Didn't know that. No wonder you don't like the theatre bit. I revel in crowds. Back after college i lived in the Chicago area for a year. When the Taste of Chicago was held--with its 800,000 expected attendees--I just *had* to go. My wife, on the other hand, shuddered at the thought of being

[scifinoir2] Colm Meaney on Law and Order Tonight

2008-11-19 Thread KeithBJohnson
I don't watch any of the Law and Order shows regularly. I find their procedural nature, with minimal character exploration, to be a bit dull and repetitive over time. But I was scanning the guide tonight and saw that Star Trek alum Colm Meaney (Chief O'Brien) is guest starring as a nutty