Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
The mere thought of a woman being abused in any way sets my teeth on edge, Keith. Even the few I really don't like in my life. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been

Re: [scifinoir2] Conspiracy Series Rubicon - Sneak Preview Tonight

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Dang it! Time to hit the website... On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: AMC is airing the pilot ep right now. I'm checking it out... - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Re: [scifinoir2] Endhiran - The Robot

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Mr Worf, Adobe crashed again, thanks to Firefox. Can't watch this now. Still, I'm interested, even without the robot. Aishwarya's eyes... score. [?] On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: This movie is being billed as the most expensive Indian made movie.

Re: [scifinoir2] The Search for Dark Energy has a New Weapon

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Loving the thought of this. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The Search for Dark Energy has a New Weapon

[scifinoir2] Dwayne McDuffie and Stan Lee

2010-07-26 Thread Kelwyn
Dwayne McDuffie (on Facebook): passed Stan Lee in lobby at Comic-Con. He smiled and called out, Hi, Dave! So he kinda knows me, is my point.

[scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Kelwyn
It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped

[scifinoir2] Darth Vader Robs Bank In Long Island

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
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Re: [scifinoir2] Endhiran - The Robot

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
Firefox did another update on Saturday to address the problems with the new version of Flash. I think that all of this mess was a strategic plan by M$ to ruin Firefox. Every time there is a new m$ update something breaks in Firefox. The video itself has only a couple of stills from the movie.

[scifinoir2] Terra-Gen Power secures $1.2 billion for largest wind farm in U.S.

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
Terra-Gen Power secures $1.2 billion for largest wind farm in U.S. By Gizmag Team http://www.gizmag.com/author/gizmag-team/ *22:17 July 25, 2010* [image: Terra-Gen Power secures $1.2 billion for largest wind farm in U.S. (Pictured: Wind

[scifinoir2] Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph By Darren Quick http://www.gizmag.com/author/darren-quick/ *00:26 July 26, 2010* 5 Pictureshttp://www.gizmag.com/ranger-walking-robot-world-record/15826/picture/118331/ [image: Cornell Ranger gets a walking buddy in Fatemeh Hasaneini, a

[scifinoir2] Fwd: Web Urbanist: Nuclear Family Housing: Life In A Missile Silo Home

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
Web Urbanist http://weburbanist.com http://fusion.google.com/add?source=atgsfeedurl=http://feeds.feedburner.com/WebUrbanist -- Nuclear Family Housing: Life In A Missile Silo

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
That's how you know that it is an American action film. :) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not

[scifinoir2] Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph

2010-07-26 Thread Amy Harlib
ahar...@earthlink.net Way cool! Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph By Darren Quick 00:26 July 26, 2010 5 Pictures Cornell Ranger gets a walking buddy in Fatemeh Hasaneini, a daughter of one of the students who

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Keith Johnson
I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Keith Johnson
I guess what I'm saying is, spy (or potential spy) is captured, then tortured. I've seen that happen to male spies and enemy combatants in movies a lot too... - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010

Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek: The Next Generation of Fandom

2010-07-26 Thread Daryle Lockhart
Okay, the Tattoos are taking it too far. Clearly if you're gonna have a Star Trek tat on your back you have to have some TOS represented! :) I have a lot of this stuff (the waffles were lame but they were also on sale, which was cool.) and it's part of the fun, at least for me. My wife

[scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Kelwyn
I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the beginning. One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this

[scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Kelwyn
Except this appears to be universal. I mentioned earlier on this list how the Swedish thriller The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, which features one of the best kick-ass female characters EVER has to have the heroine sexually abused and sodomized before she can exact her steel-eyed vengeance.

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Another eye-opener for me, rave. This reminds me of seeing The Outlaw Josey Wales for the first time in some years last week, realizing that Josey was a mild-mannered farmer until his wife and family were killed (with him suffering nothing more than a whack upside the head). The male-female

Re: [scifinoir2] Monsters: Could This be This Year's Cloverfield/District 9?

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Does sound good, B! On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: I heard about this movie earlier this year and the teaser footage is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH9NswxZyAQfeature=player_embedded

Re: [scifinoir2] Darth Vader Robs Bank In Long Island

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
I don't get it, Mr Worf. Why would he need the gun? Just Force-choke a couple of the tellers, to get the message across. [?] On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: -

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Again, not disputing it's an issue, I just think that in context of this film--spies, espionage, rogue states--the torture/beating makes sense. I can see it having been done to a man in this context. Indeed, isn't Salt based on a character that was originally envisioned as a man? I wonder if

[scifinoir2] Discovery Channel Shark Building

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
Discovery Channel Shark Buildinghttp://www.toxel.com/inspiration/2010/07/20/discovery-channel-shark-building/ July 20th, 2010 | Inspiration http://www.toxel.com/category/inspiration/ | [image: Discovery Channel Shark Building] In celebration of Shark

Re: [scifinoir2] Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Oh, that's nice... now the bots can walk faster than I can, thus making it all the easier for them to kill me. [?][?][?] On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph By Darren Quick

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Adrianne Brennan
Weighing in as a chick who HAS been date raped and assaulted in the past, which unfortunately gives me Clue +2... It would depend on how the movie does it. Is it a realistic scenario? Unfortunately yes. Get a tough girl and the first thing a guy's going to do if he captures her is precisely that,

Re: [scifinoir2] Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Oh, that's nice... now the bots can walk faster than I can, thus making it all the easier for them to kill me. [?][?][?] On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph By Darren Quick

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
(standing ovation) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: Weighing in as a chick who HAS been date raped and assaulted in the past, which unfortunately gives me Clue +2... It would depend on how the movie does it. Is it a realistic scenario?

Re: [scifinoir2] Endhiran - The Robot

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Got those updates, for all that they were worth. I'll just stick it out, and hope that Firefox stops trying to build a developer-friendly set-up and just gets the basics down pat. Reminds me of what Gmail is also doing, pretty much the same thing. All the great functions you want on an airliner,

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Wow, sorry to hear about your unfortunate past, which is all too common in this world. But you make the point I was trying to make. Rave is right on, this is too much a gimmick in media. But in some contexts it may be germane to the story. A possible American spy captured by the North Koreans

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Adrianne Brennan
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Wow, sorry to hear about your unfortunate past, which is all too common in this world. Entirely too common. :( It's one of the things I've learned about in talking with others. People estimate it's one in four

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Adrianne Brennan
*bows* I'll be here all week, try the falafel! ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:

Re: [scifinoir2] Dwayne McDuffie and Stan Lee

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
[?] I guess... [?] On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Dwayne McDuffie (on Facebook): passed Stan Lee in lobby at Comic-Con. He smiled and called out, Hi, Dave! So he kinda knows me, is my point. -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely

Re: [scifinoir2] Endhiran - The Robot

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
Hmmm I haven't had any problems since the update. I spent a couple of hours yesterday looking at youtube. Which was fatal before this. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Got those updates, for all that they were worth. I'll just stick it out, and

Re: [scifinoir2] Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
If they want to get you Martin, they will get you. It won't be a robot it will be your cellphone set to autodestruct or your toaster. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Oh, that's nice... now the bots can walk faster than I can, thus making it all

Re: [scifinoir2] Monsters: Could This be This Year's Cloverfield/District 9?

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
I loved the clip! That was the last thing that I thought that I would see floating out of the water. Unfortunately, I had the misfortune of watching a review of it thinking that it was an additional clip. :( Cool tidbit: The director made a lot of the effects on his laptop. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010

[scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
This says something... what, I have yet to determine. [?] === Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse JR Raphael, PC World http://www.pcworld.com/ Jul 22, 2010 7:38 pm [image: Microsoft Tagline - Windows]Grab your

[scifinoir2] Monday's Warriors [10 Attachments]

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
-- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

[scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Kelwyn
There was an interesting change made in this movie - aside from changing the name from Edwin to Evelyn - Edwin was supposed to have a child and Jolie nixed this idea because, she said, a woman in this profession could not have a child and effectively do her job. ~rave? --- In

Re: [scifinoir2] Monday's Warriors

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Thet-thar good ole boy Rebel, Mr Worf, he gon be real pop'lar down chere way. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: [Attachment(s) #12a106e9f9265504_TopText from Mr. Worf included below] -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing

Re: [scifinoir2] Endhiran - The Robot

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
I've been trying out 4.p0 Beta 1. Well, I was until a half-hour ago. Now, I'm back to 3.6.8, and I'll test YouTube tomorrow. (Supper needs fixing, as soon as I clear the table.) So far, no problems. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm I haven't had

Re: [scifinoir2] Terra-Gen Power secures $1.2 billion for largest wind farm in U.S.

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
THERE we go! In your face, Big Oil. [?][?][?][?][?][?][?][?] On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Terra-Gen Power secures $1.2 billion for largest wind farm in U.S. By Gizmag Team http://www.gizmag.com/author/gizmag-team/ *22:17 July 25, 2010*

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Tracy Curtis
I'm not sure what to say about that. I've seen a few things lately that remind me of how important it is for children to be raised by people who want them around. But I assume some people could be good at the job with a child at home. I guess I would chalk that up to at least the way she's

Re: [scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse

2010-07-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Look, when they come up with something as incredibly lame and confusing is "I am a PC, and Windows 7 was my idea", nothing surprises me about their marketing campaign!- Original Message -From: "Martin Baxter" martinbaxt...@gmail.comTo: "SciFiNoir2" scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday,

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Right. Given what she was doing, I can see her point of view, and that would apply to a man as well as a woman. The only thing that would make it work is if one parent is around to be home all the time, so maybe her husband could have fulfilled that duty. But I think women in the main deal with

Re: [scifinoir2] China discovers XXL Way of Life

2010-07-26 Thread Adrianne Brennan
It's the FOOD. Same deal's happening in Japan since they've adopted Western fast food joints; now there's an obesity problem and I seem to recall deodorant sales on the rise, too. The more meat you eat the more it reflects in your body odor. Affects your hormones, too--which is another major

Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Web Urbanist: Nuclear Family Housing: Life In A Missile Silo Home

2010-07-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Funny thing is that I should've known about the vast emptiness, having driven through North Dakota to visit a friend of mine in Minnesota. And no, I hadn't heard of that tale. Feel free to relate it, at your leisure. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Yea

[scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-26 Thread Kelwyn
What brought this home for me was years ago when I created a female heroine. Being a man, I wrote her like I would write a male lead character. My beta readers told me she was unlikeable. I didn't change a thing about her characterization but I inserted a rape scene. Almost to a person,

Re: [scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
The first campaign should have been I use a PC and don't know any better... The new one should be Its Windows 7, still better than Windows ME... On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Look, when they come up with something as incredibly lame and confusing

Re: [scifinoir2] Terra-Gen Power secures $1.2 billion for largest wind farm in U.S.

2010-07-26 Thread Mr. Worf
I was watching a show on Discovery a few days ago that showed the process that they go through to measure the amount of sunlight / energy in one square meter. There was a location in the desert that they predicted they could get 960 watts out per sq. meter. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:50 AM,

[scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you

2010-07-26 Thread Kelwyn
There is no comparison between Big Oil and Walmart. People continue to earn substantially above living wages in the oil industry. Walmart lowers everyone's wages. I know Walmart's official headquarters are in Bentonville, Arkansas. I stand by my China statement. By the by, 2012 has been