Re: CS>Alkaline vs Ozone vs Breathing

1999-07-26 Thread Vilik Rapheles
Ivan, Do you know of Ray Peat? He has a website and some unorthodox ideas. He says that breathing O2 from an oxygen tank actually decreases oxygen. He also purports the CO2 theory, though I did not understand it them (and to be honest do not understand it now.) But since breathing O2 didn't work

CS>Good CS/WaterOz question

1999-07-26 Thread Sjlane99
Robert, Ivan, Bob Lee and CS experts, I just called the WaterOz company since I think I need higher ppm than the "30ppm" Source Naturals that is helping some--and different ones have reported success with WaterOz brand. They claim it is crystaline form and dissolves in the water and that it is n

Re: CS>Lyme

1999-07-26 Thread Sjlane99
Please tell me more how you eradicated Lyme. What kind of heart problems--mitral valve prolapse by chance? I was on clafforin for 10 mons--but I was VERY bad at the time. I improved slowly once I went off it and had a remission. But now I am back down again and oral antibiotic's aren't doing wh

Re: CS>Making Good CS

1999-07-26 Thread Sjlane99
Hi Bob or CS experts, Susan here, EE. You mention 35ppm--how--are you using 27V LVDC? Question for you. OK, so I've made my CS using silver from Marsha online and I didn't switch the electrodes. Started with a pint jar. But I've made 1 quart in a glass jar at a time--I've made a couple gallons s

CS>Damn!!...asthma, asthma, asthma! No Text

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
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Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread RON BRENNEN
Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > Re; pH > > I just ordered some Coral Calcium (high pH and full of minerals...supposed > to raise pH) and pH paper. More will be revealed. Keep thinking about this > one. > > ~^^V^^~ Don't ingest calcium, it will only wind up in your joints. The body wants to make i

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
> > Every CS generator manufacturer swears that their machine is the best, > > I know I do ;-) > > Now now now, I don't say that! ;) > > Could I get your web address? From what I've read of your posts here, you > sound pretty "with it" and I'm sure I could probably learn something if you > have

CS>Alkaline vs Ozone vs Breathing

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
Good stuff Charles and Dennis, I believe you are spot on when you mention diet and lifestyle as the primary cause of illness. I would also mention environment and emphasise stress as major contributors. And while this is undoubtably true, the principle physical outcome would seem to be the alterat

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread James Vernon, Allison
> Every CS generator manufacturer swears that their machine is the best, > I know I do ;-) Now now now, I don't say that! ;) Could I get your web address? From what I've read of your posts here, you sound pretty "with it" and I'm sure I could probably learn something if you have a site up. And

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
- Original Message - From: Vilik Rapheles To: Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 1999 05:24 Subject: Re: CS>pH and microbes > At 10:59 AM 7/26/99 -0400, you wrote: > >I have been studying the work of Sang Whang who in his book "Reverse Aging" > >claims the root cause of disease is the gradual acid

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
Art, There is no 'optimum' voltage. Any voltage over 1 or 2 Volts will generate CS. (It might just take an awful long time) There are various 'recipes' or protocols, each of which have their pluses and minuses. The recipe I posted in response to your earlier question has the pluses of being very

Re: CS>Cell biology 101 Pt2, Re: CS>Cell biology 101

1999-07-26 Thread Vilik Rapheles
This should have read INNERCELLULAR...or inside the cell... At 06:45 PM 7/26/99 -0700, you wrote: >Bob, > > Good lesson. I've been diagonosed with a mycoplasmal infection...oh can't >remember its name now...but it is intercellular and causes the symptoms of >Gulf war syndrome. Many believe it t

CS>Asthma info...thanks...

1999-07-26 Thread Vilik Rapheles
Dear Shining Silverados, Thank you so much for all the asthma information. I have forwarded it to my friend who is having the problem, and she is sorting through it. There were a few "aha"s for her...for instance she gets an attack after eating certain meals. She was also interested in the infe

Re: CS>Cell biology 101

1999-07-26 Thread Susan Yensen
Mycoplasma is a cell wall deficient organism Blessings, Susan > > Interesting I wonder if-how these cell wall defecient cells relate to >the mycoplasum that is talked about causing problems in some humans? > > > >Take Care >Reid > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of

Re: CS>Cell biology 101 Pt2, Re: CS>Cell biology 101

1999-07-26 Thread Vilik Rapheles
Bob, Good lesson. I've been diagonosed with a mycoplasmal infection...oh can't remember its name now...but it is intercellular and causes the symptoms of Gulf war syndrome. Many believe it to be genetically engineered. The theory is it can only be killed after a cell has died and the mycoplasma

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 04:23 PM 7/26/99 -0500, you wrote: >>Folks, >>I have posted on the internal terrain before. >>This environment or 'milieu' according to Enderlien and others, is >>responsible for changing the life stage of microbes, which exist in us >>in a benign symbiotic manner at a cellular level, to a patho

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 04:23 PM 7/26/99 -0500, you wrote: >>Folks, >>I have posted on the internal terrain before. >>This environment or 'milieu' according to Enderlien and others, is >>responsible for changing the life stage of microbes, which exist in us >>in a benign symbiotic manner at a cellular level, to a patho

Re: CS>Alkaline vs Ozone

1999-07-26 Thread Dennis Lipter
Charles, Re: "I was tempted to buy one, but the machines were $1100 bucks" fernsnutririon.com sells a Jupiter water ionizer for $445. Very interesting story. So you think that if lifestyle and diet are ok then the alkaline water is not needed? I think that it could still be useful even with a goo

Re: CS>New Member Reply

1999-07-26 Thread jani
I'm new to this group too, but also interested. I don't know a lot about electricity, but would love to learn and use for my health problems, but have no idea how or where to start. I presently use a electromagnetic machine designed on the Rife/Barr theory. It is used for many things, I got mine

CS>Cell biology 101 Pt2, Re: CS>Cell biology 101

1999-07-26 Thread Tai-Pan
Reid Smith wrote: > > > All cells, plant and animal have cell membranes. > > In addition plant cells have a cell wall. > > Animal cells *never* have a cell wall. -snip- > Interesting I wonder if-how these cell wall defecient cells relate to > the mycoplasum that is talked about causing pr

CS>Fw: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread CARMEN SPENCE
- Original Message - From: CARMEN SPENCE To: Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 8:57 AM Subject: Re: CS>pH and microbes > Hi Reid, > > > Is that book, by Barry Lynes about curing cancer on the net anywhere, so we > can read it? > > Carmen > - Original Message - > From: Reid Smith >

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread CARMEN SPENCE
Hi Reid, Is that book, by Barry Lynes about curing cancer on the net anywhere, so we can read it? Carmen - Original Message - From: Reid Smith To: Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 7:23 AM Subject: Re: CS>pH and microbes > >Folks, > >I have posted on the internal terrain before. > >This e

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Reid Smith
>Folks, >I have posted on the internal terrain before. >This environment or 'milieu' according to Enderlien and others, is >responsible for changing the life stage of microbes, which exist in us >in a benign symbiotic manner at a cellular level, to a pathogenetic >stage which causes disease and inf

CS>Re: [RF]: Re: CS>IVAN!!!! Buteyko

1999-07-26 Thread Reid Smith
>>Ok now you have the door, the base, and the way to get the pressure >> of the oxygen. Last is the best. You need a THICK sheet of clear plastic >> about 12-14 feet long and 8-10 feet wide. Remove the hinges from the >> 2x4 frame, run a bead of silicone around the outside of the 2x4 frame

Re: CS>silver on glass

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
- Original Message - From: Pam Whitmire > I make my cs with a 3 9v battery generator in a 20oz glass tumbler. The > wires are 90% covered with water when I'm making it, and they do not > touch the bottom of the glass. The last few batches I've made have left > a silver deposit on the bo

Re: CS>posting

1999-07-26 Thread Charles Marcus
> I wish to be able to post messages to the list. I tried and > an error message said the mailbox was full. What should I > do? I've gotten the same message, but it wasn't the list mailbox that was full, it was someone else that had gotten on the 'reply to' address line...I forget his address.

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Matt Curtin
I don't recall what the proper Ph is "supposed" to be. Anyone know? And are we saying taking it acidic (below 7?) is a strategy for killing pathogens. I am curious as with this bug I am having trouble with seems to retreat upon being exposed to acid in the diet (Lemon, cranberry, GSE). Matthew

CS>pages

1999-07-26 Thread Henry Reed
elixa.com has good article on making cs. It addresses most of the questions you have asked. Using altavista.digital.com and "colloidal silver generators" you will get a lot of info. Lots of diff ideas about how to do things but most results seem satisfactory. -- The silver-list is a moderated

Re: CS > pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Charles Marcus
If we agree that body acidity is responsible for disease, how can the body be alkalinized? John By adopting a lifestyle and diet conducive to health: lots of fresh, raw organically grown fruits and veggies, healthy happy thoughts, deep breathing of clean air, lots of sunshine, etc etc. -- Char

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Vilik Rapheles
Re; pH I just ordered some Coral Calcium (high pH and full of minerals...supposed to raise pH) and pH paper. More will be revealed. Keep thinking about this one. ~^^V^^~ At 04:42 PM 7/26/99 -0400, you wrote: >> Folks, >> >> I have posted on the internal terrain before. This >> environment o

Re: CS>posting

1999-07-26 Thread D. Garrett
henry, try again :-) and yet again, if necessary. never heard of an E-list with a full mailbox. regards, Dennis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com

CS>posting

1999-07-26 Thread Henry Reed
I wish to be able to post messages to the list. I tried and an error message said the mailbox was full. What should I do? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@esk

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Charles Marcus
> Folks, > > I have posted on the internal terrain before. This > environment or 'milieu' according to Enderlien and others, is > responsible for changing the life stage of microbes, which > exist in us in a benign symbiotic manner at a cellular level, > to a pathogenetic stage which causes disea

CS>Alkaline vs Ozone

1999-07-26 Thread Charles Marcus
> I have been studying the work of Sang Whang who in his book > "Reverse Aging" claims the root cause of disease is the > gradual acidification (lowering of pH) of the body. He cites > cancer as being an anaerobic process that grows in an acidic > (low pH) environment. He goes on further to mentio

Re: CS > pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread johnphil
If we agree that body acidity is responsible for disease, how can the body be alkalinized? John

Re: CS > pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread johnphil
If we agree that body acidity is responsible for disease, how can the body be alkalinized? John

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread Henry Reed
At elixa.com you will find a very in-depth article on making cs. It answers many questions you have asked and they are answered in harmony with much of what is on the net regarding same. The author is seemingly well informed. He disagrees about the 27 volts, but not by much. Using altavista.di

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread boberger
Art. Art Labrada wrote: > Thanks to all who have posted giving me advice. Right now I have > questions: > > 1. What is the optimum voltage for CS generation?27 volts DC > > 2. What is the optimum electrode length and separation? For a 16 oz SOLO cup > have 3-1/2" in DW at 1" Sp. > > 3. U

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread Art Labrada
Thanks to all who have posted giving me advice. Right now I have questions: 1. What is the optimum voltage for CS generation? 2. What is the optimum electrode length and separation? 3. Under given conditions of 1 and 2, what is required time for optimum ppm and what should this be? 4. Onc

Re: CS>metaphysical?

1999-07-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
Sure. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: > Hi Marshall, > > May I also share the info on detection? > James Osbourne, Holmes > > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] > Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 2:38 PM > To: silver-list@es

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 10:59 AM 7/26/99 -0400, you wrote: >I have been studying the work of Sang Whang who in his book "Reverse Aging" >claims the root cause of disease is the gradual acidification (lowering of >pH) of the body. He cites cancer as being an anaerobic process that grows in >an acidic (low pH) environmen

Re: CS>pH and microbes... To Reid

1999-07-26 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 02:22 AM 7/26/99 -0500, you wrote: So Reid... Where do you take this in terms of prevention? >>> Your in a catch 22 situation. You can take things that will >>>bring your blood to an alkaline state that should prevent >>>the osteoporosis. BUT you still have the microbe in your body

RE: CS>metaphysical?

1999-07-26 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Marshall, May I also share the info on detection? James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 2:38 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>metaphysical? This is off topic, s

CS>Suppliers of 99.999% silver in the UK

1999-07-26 Thread Kit Keen
Hi I'm new to CS and would like to begin making my own. Can anybody recommend any reputable suppliers of 99.999 silver here in the UK? Thanks Kit -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message

CS>Silver Purity

1999-07-26 Thread James Vernon, Allison
I have been talking to REFINERS about silver (the people that make/manufacture the silver). In order to get .9 fine silver, they need to start out with .99 silver because just running it through the machining process will turn the 6 nine into 5 nine. And trying to get a .9 fine gua

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread James Vernon, Allison
- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 8:52 AM Subject: Re: CS>New Member > James, > > I just called Jules Borel and asked and my order is for 99.999 Silver. > Steriling electrodes turn jet black and good silver is mouse gray in my > switching system. How about th

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread boberger
James, I just called Jules Borel and asked and my order is for 99.999 Silver. Steriling electrodes turn jet black and good silver is mouse gray in my switching system. Robert -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-di

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread James Vernon, Allison
- Original Message - > From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 6:51 PM Subject: Re: CS>New Member > Nat; > > Sorry ole boy but DO NOT USE 999 silver get 9. It is availbe in K.C.Mo Jules > Borel Co tel 1-800-776-6858. Last november I bought 10 ft for $32.00 I just got off the phone wit

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Dennis Lipter
I have been studying the work of Sang Whang who in his book "Reverse Aging" claims the root cause of disease is the gradual acidification (lowering of pH) of the body. He cites cancer as being an anaerobic process that grows in an acidic (low pH) environment. He goes on further to mention that the

CS>silver on glass

1999-07-26 Thread Pam Whitmire
I make my cs with a 3 9v battery generator in a 20oz glass tumbler. The wires are 90% covered with water when I'm making it, and they do not touch the bottom of the glass. The last few batches I've made have left a silver deposit on the bottom of the glass. Not the black flaky stuff, but a shiny s

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
Folks, I have posted on the internal terrain before. This environment or 'milieu' according to Enderlien and others, is responsible for changing the life stage of microbes, which exist in us in a benign symbiotic manner at a cellular level, to a pathogenetic stage which causes disease and infectio

Re: CS>Cell biology 101

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
Bob, I believe plant cells live in an oxygen free environment. Cancer cells are said by some to resemble plant cells in this and in other respects. Thoughts? Regards - Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest

CS>.999 Fine Silver

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
As far as I can ascertain the allowable impurities for fine silver (99.9%) are all less than 100ppm (micrograms per gram). Therefore any impurity in CS would be in the ppb (parts per billion) range. There is no Cadmium impurity. There will be more impurities in the water itself. Ivan. -- The sil

Re: CS>IVAN!!!! Buteyko

1999-07-26 Thread Charles Marcus
> Now you have the makings of a HBO chamber with a door. You > still need to mount a resperator hole some where and a > resperator tube out. That way if you go to sleep and run out > of oxygen you will still have in comming air. The cute thing > is if you run out of air, door is jammed, you don'

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
- Original Message - From: Reid Smith Reid, I think it more likely that the tissue is acid (low oxygen) to begin with, for a variety of reasons, and this allows the virus or cell mutation to survive and prosper. Trouble is where do you test for pH? Urine, saliva, blood, tissue, all will

Re: CS>New Member - simple generator

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
- Original Message - From: Art Labrada There are many recipes for making colloidal silver, here is a very simple inexpensive CS generating circuit with good repeatable results. The circuit operates at about 12 V DC but you could substitute 2 x 9 V batteries for similar results, perhaps

Re: CS>Anything affect CS?

1999-07-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, 26 July 1999 07:26 Subject: CS>Anything affect CS? > I know you must take CS on empty stomach,under the tongue for 1 minute. Does > anything else affect CS like drinking liquids or brushing teeth before/after > a certain time? > Tami M Tami

Re: CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Reid Smith
>>>So Reid... >>> Where do you take this in terms of prevention? >> Your in a catch 22 situation. You can take things that will >>bring your blood to an alkaline state that should prevent >>the osteoporosis. BUT you still have the microbe in your body >>that you desperately need to get out. >>

Re: CS>IVAN!!!! Buteyko

1999-07-26 Thread Reid Smith
>> Thank you Ivan for reminding me about the HBO. I was laying >> down the other day pondering how a person could make a simple >> and cheap HBO that worked. >> What I came up was so elegantly simple adn cheap it even >> surprized me. If anyone is interested I'll post the design. >Please do! >Than

Re: CS>Cell biology 101

1999-07-26 Thread Reid Smith
> All cells, plant and animal have cell membranes. > In addition plant cells have a cell wall. > Animal cells *never* have a cell wall. > The cell membrane: Interesting I wonder if-how these cell wall defecient cells relate to the mycoplasum that is talked about causing problems in som

CS>pH and microbes

1999-07-26 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 11:21 PM 7/25/99 -0500, you wrote: >>So Reid... >> Where do you take this in terms of prevention? > > Your in a catch 22 situation. You can take things that will >bring your blood to an alkaline state that should prevent >the osteoporosis. BUT you still have the microbe in your body >that y

CS>HBO/Alkaline

1999-07-26 Thread Vilik Rapheles
HBO thatworked. What I came up was so elegantly simple adn cheap it even surprized me. >If anyone is interested I'll post the design. >~ Reid, Yes, please post the design. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread Terry Wayne
Art, You will run into several controversies converning cs. One is about .999 vs . vs .9 silver. Some people believe .999 is not pure enough, but the reality is that the vast majority of cs makers you will talk to on the List use .999, and none of them have suffered, that I know of. There i

Re: CS>IVAN!!!! Buteyko

1999-07-26 Thread Charles Marcus
> Thank you Ivan for reminding me about the HBO. I was laying > down the other day pondering how a person could make a simple > and cheap HBO that worked. > What I came up was so elegantly simple adn cheap it even > surprized me. If anyone is interested I'll post the design. > > Take Care > Reid

CS>Cell biology 101

1999-07-26 Thread Tai-Pan
Greetings Astute Progenies of CS, All cells, plant and animal have cell membranes. In addition plant cells have a cell wall. Animal cells *never* have a cell wall. The cell membrane: Limiting the cytoplasm of all cells, both plant and animal, is a delicate structure known as the *p

Re: CS>IVAN!!!! Buteyko

1999-07-26 Thread Reid Smith
>> Ivan, >I would think that an investigation into Hyperbaric O2 plus CO2 >treatment might be justified, where HBO treatments are currently used. Thank you Ivan for reminding me about the HBO. I was laying down the other day pondering how a person could make a simple and cheap HBO that worked.

Re: CS>Unidentified subject! (To Reid)

1999-07-26 Thread Reid Smith
>So Reid... > Where do you take this in terms of prevention? Your in a catch 22 situation. You can take things that will bring your blood to an alkaline state that should prevent the osteoporosis. BUT you still have the microbe in your body that you desperately need to get out. >At 04:57

Re: CS>IVAN!!!! Buteyko

1999-07-26 Thread Reid Smith
>What does the gamaglobulin test indicate, and what parameters does one look >for? It is the subclasses (materials) of your immune system. If you have an IgG subclass that it low then you have some type of infection that is causing this problem. Your immune system is like armys. If all your a

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread Tim Lunsford
Art silver is no problem if you are looking for some 1/4 wide six inch long 24 guage 999 silver let me know I have some available please e=mail me at birdn...@brightok.net. Thanks and welcome to the greatest list in the whole silver world - Original Message - From: Art Labrada To: Sent: S

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread Bill Schramm
Many people use 999 silver with good results. Sterling silver is only 94% or so silver. I am not sure what the rest of it is, but probably zinc, tin, etc. to make it more durable. Not a good idea to use sterling for cs, but 999 should be ok. Also, many mfg use 999 as a tolerance for "fine silve

Re: CS>New Member

1999-07-26 Thread Michael Anthony
I believe that 9 (5 9's) silver is actually 99.999% pure. 999 silver is not really pure enough because it is only 99.9% pure leaving as much as 1/10 of 1% for impurities. When it comes to cadmium and stuff like that 1/10 of 1% is a lot. Your coins are just fine at .999 if it is 99.999%. Michae