Re: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity and infections

2008-09-02 Thread G Murray
Hi Sarah, It sounds like you need to do some liver cleanses and be doing some liver support. G Murray Sara wrote: *Nenah,* ** *it's strange that saunas make me very sick within minutes, but i live in north florida, and between the hot sticky weather and hot flashes i sweat a whole lot som

Re: CS>abscessed gums

2008-09-02 Thread Norton, Steve
Yes. And do not forget to add ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) to the final tincture. - Steve - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue Sep 02 22:28:13 2008 Subject: Re: CS>abscessed gums Hi Steve, Thanks so much for the info. By 0.5 in I assume you mean

Re: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity and infections

2008-09-02 Thread Sara
Nenah, it's strange that saunas make me very sick within minutes, but i live in north florida, and between the hot sticky weather and hot flashes i sweat a whole lot sometimes, and never feel bad at all from it. FIR really hurts me instantly. i sure would like to sweat a lot, but am not sure ho

Re: CS>abscessed gums

2008-09-02 Thread bbanever
Re: CS>abscessed gumsHi Steve, Thanks so much for the info. By 0.5 in I assume you mean 1/2 inch above the chapparral, correct? Bob - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: RE: CS>abscesse

Re: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity and infections?

2008-09-02 Thread Clayton Family
Yes that is the trick, killing it off without you too. I had to start the CS with just drops. I had herx reactions to about everything. Of course if you have invasive fungal or yeast, the antiyeast stuff would be murder. But there really is no way out of it- if that is the problem, it has to g

Re: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity -sauna

2008-09-02 Thread Clayton Family
Yes, Nenah thanks for mentioning it- it is the best way to start detoxing. I do not have a sauna, but I use hot baths with salt in the water to facilitate sweating. I always feel better (well, sometimes not, due to toxins released), and have been doing it for years. It is really important to m

Re: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity and infections

2008-09-02 Thread Clayton Family
This is not unusual, actually. Organically grown clothing has less processing, and more allergens for many people- it can be really moldy. You just sound very very toxic. -Kathryn On Sep 2, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Sara wrote: I really hesitate to be frank here, because it sounds so crazy. but i h

Re: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity and infections

2008-09-02 Thread bbanever
sara, One possibility is that your body's immune system is hyperactive, attacking anything it deems foreign. The reasons for this could be many and varied, from toxic metals, virus, foreign proteins (from vaccines) etc. You might try a course of MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement) for a mon

Re: CS>CMO/Glucosamine with MSM

2008-09-02 Thread Starshar
For my arthritic hip, so bad that supposedly I'll need it replaced, CMO has been miraculous. I took one 'course' of it about 18 months ago. Then around June of this yr, the hip started acting up again, so I got another bottle. Like Rowena, I was very casual about taking the 2nd bottle, usually 3

Re: CS>Moon phases

2008-09-02 Thread Neville
- Original Message - From: "Dan Nave" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 11:36 PM Subject: Re: CS>Moon phases Comments in-line: From: Neville[SMTP:nevillem...@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:18:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Moon phases I am th

Re: CS>One Mistake, maybe more, Who Me ?

2008-09-02 Thread Neville
This doesn't sound promising! lol. I can make a fool out of myself without any assistance thanks! :-) - Original Message - From: "Wayne Fugitt" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:29 AM Subject: CS>One Mistake, maybe more, Who Me ? Evening Chuck, At 11:05 AM 9/2/2008, you w

Re: CS>Moon phases..sun spots and glass, current and voltage ..high/low and no frequencies blah blah blah

2008-09-02 Thread Neville
SNAP!! - Original Message - From: "dee" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 3:32 AM Subject: Re: CS>Moon phases..sun spots and glass, current and voltage ..high/low and no frequencies blah blah blah Wow! I really, really wish I could understand all this clever stuff! I'm af

Re: CS>TO WHOM IT CONCERNS.

2008-09-02 Thread cking001
On 9/2/2008 8:28:08 PM, Neville (nevillem...@bigpond.com) wrote: >I think I concentrate too much on working them both together in my head when >I should seperate them, ie; it's the current that is the major factor and >dictates the voltage used. Having trouble explaining here but I think I see

RE: CS>TO WHOM IT CONCERNS.

2008-09-02 Thread bob Larson
the formula is called Ohm's Law. E=IR where E=voltage I=current R=resistance so then, I=E/R or R=E/I meditate on that for awhile until you see the relationships as you leave one factor constant and change another ... it should fall into clarity. try writing out some sentences that states w

Re: CS>TO WHOM IT CONCERNS.

2008-09-02 Thread Neville
Morning Chuck Yep, I can immediately see from that that I have it about face. I am always working the two together, ie; voltage and current, and maybe this is where I am getting into strife. From information all of you have given me here I am thinking I should leave the voltage out of the eq

RE: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity and infections

2008-09-02 Thread Nenah Sylver
Sara, I know a few other people with exquisite sensitivities. Toxins in the body can prevent anything from working correctly. I'm wondering, have you thought of or tried sauna therapy? Sweating is one of the best ways to eliminate toxins. Nenah www.nenahsylver.com

Re: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity and infections

2008-09-02 Thread Sara
Thanks Sol. one comment i have is that it's quite interesting as to why i might have reacted to the thyroid supplement. it was a long time ago, can't recall much symptom-wise. but i did subsequently have months of wonderful energy while an ND in Tucson was doing Neural Therapy on me...helping m

Re: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity and infections?

2008-09-02 Thread Marshall Dudley
Sara wrote: *Greetings all,* ** *brand new member, with some big questions. i have severe MCS, probably lyme disease or any number of infection issues that cause fibromyalgia and other physical issues. was on Marshall Protocol for a year (basically antibiotics plus some twists) and killed som

Re: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity and infections?

2008-09-02 Thread Craig Chamberlin
Sara, I am going to suggest that you join the iod...@yahoogroups.com and tell your story to the list owner Stephanie (she is working on finishing her ND) and see if she could suggest an iodine based protocol, which could be used in conjunction with CS. Kind regards, Craig *Paula,* ** *my

Re: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity and infections

2008-09-02 Thread Sara
I really hesitate to be frank here, because it sounds so crazy. but i have been reacting very badly to anything organically grown for years, including clothing. i have some theories but don't really know why. could be they fertilize with fish source stuff, and anything from the ocean tends to re

Re: CS>OT > multiple chemical sensitivity and infections?

2008-09-02 Thread Sara
Paula, my MCS is exactly that; and i can't deal with supplements either. unless i take them infrequently. if i could take all the great stuff that is rec. by Teitelbaum and others, i prob. wouldn't be this sick. however...taking them is severe punishment. including antiyeast stuff. so my task i

CS>One Mistake, maybe more, Who Me ?

2008-09-02 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Chuck, At 11:05 AM 9/2/2008, you wrote: Nope, still backwards... I think I had it backwards too, in one statement I made. I had been up all one night, my mind was spinning around like a hurricane, and some of it might have gotten blow away. I can't even belive I said what

Re: CS>Moon phases..sun spots and glass, current and voltage ..high/low and no frequencies blah blah blah

2008-09-02 Thread dee
Wow! I really, really wish I could understand all this clever stuff! I'm afraid I will never be able to unfortunately, and although I know it doesn't really matter, it bugs me that I can't! dee Ode Coyote wrote: To keep voltage constant, the current has to vary with conductivity. Voltage c

Re: slat/C, was Re: CS>Motor Neuron Disease and German New Medicine

2008-09-02 Thread kmilkowski
There is a scale up method that was developed at a group called lymestrategies, a yahoo group. You would start out at low doses,how much depends on your situation, how sick you are, body wieght, etc. It would depend on what other meds you are taking, as to when to take the salt/c. Kurt G M

Re: slat/C, was Re: CS>Motor Neuron Disease and German New Medicine

2008-09-02 Thread kmilkowski
The lyme tests all suck by design. If they were accurate, there'd be big problems, everybody might figure out where they get it from. Look up Dr. Lida Mattman?? I think that's how to spell her name. She just died last week, she was in her 90's. She developed an accurate lyme test and was run out

RE: CS>CMO/Glucosamine with MSM

2008-09-02 Thread Ernie Patai
Hi Marshalee. Thank you so much for your feedback. Gives me something to go on!! Appreciated!! Ernie Patai 416-633-2485 yogawither...@rogers.com GoodLife FITNESS CLUBS _ From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:utahpug...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:13 AM T

RE: CS>Moon phases..sun spots and glass, current and voltage ..high/low and no frequencies blah blah blah

2008-09-02 Thread Norton, Steve
Ode, Thanks for that tutorial. It's definitely a keeper. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Moon phases..sun spots and glass, current and voltage ..high/low and

Re: CS>CMO/Glucosamine with MSM

2008-09-02 Thread Rowena
Via another lady in Australia, I obtained a supply of EHP Myristin and Myrist-Aid, and also the cream. http://www.cetylmyristoleate.com/ I heard from her recently that she is better, though on the way through the protocol she ended up on crutches. She took the capsules faithfully three times a d

Re: CS>TO WHOM IT CONCERNS.

2008-09-02 Thread cking001
Nope, still backwards... Assuming distilled water The starting current will be almost nil. As silver starts to accumulate, the current will INCREASE as the process continues due to the silver increasing conductance in the water. It ramps up from near zero. The increase will continue 'till it reach

RE: CS>abscessed gums

2008-09-02 Thread Norton, Steve
Bob, Sorry to not reply last night but I was on my Blackberry and it isn't user friendly in providing links. Here is the link to Ryan Drum's article: http://www.ryandrum.com/Devilsclub.htm Here is an excerpt from the article: Chaparral contains over 600 medicinally active ingredients; some of these

Re: CS>More Science Efforts to make CS, Maybe

2008-09-02 Thread Ode Coyote
OK...Here we go. The battery unit is just 27V, (the old stock standard 3x9' setup), connected to the two electrodes so I am assuming this would be a "Constant Voltage" unit. That's right isn't it? Nothing else in the circuitry. Here's something I find curious...when I connect a multime

Re: CS>Moon phases

2008-09-02 Thread Ode Coyote
Ten or 12 years ago, nobody had a clue...nobody. The internet was still new and there was 3,000 pages of the same old thing on it. Now, there are millions of pages, mostly with the same old thing on them. People STILL just repeat the old ways claiming it to be "Gospel" just because it's o

Re: CS>40 ppm

2008-09-02 Thread Marshall Dudley
Neville wrote: Sol, Can't answer your first question as it was around 5-6 years ago and I had only just got into CS at the time when I had it tested, I know it was pretty high though, if I remember correctly it was around 48, but don't quote me on that as it's so long ago. I remember tha

Re: CS>40 ppm

2008-09-02 Thread Marshall Dudley
sol wrote: I'd like to know what the uS of the rainwater was at the start of the 3 min brewing time? Neville? Most of that 40 ppm could have been contaminants in the water, possibly? sol Rainwater, if it has not picked up much contamination will primarily have dissolved carbon dioxide in it.

RE: CS>thyroid meds and body temp

2008-09-02 Thread Nenah Sylver
From: jessi...@optonline.net [mailto:jessi...@optonline.net] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>thyroid meds and body temp Nenah, I have know about the Broda Barnes test for years. Many people I know have body temps below 98.7 in the morning and eve

RE: CS>40 ppm

2008-09-02 Thread Dan Nave
My calculations show that you have about .85 ppm. (Less than 1 ppm.) This is using the Faraday Calculator sheet, and also using my Rule of Thumb calculation. They both agree. Dan > -Original Message- > From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za] > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 12:22 PM

RE: CS>abcessed gums

2008-09-02 Thread Dan Nave
Also, if you take a mouthful of CS and add about 5 to 10% DMSO to it and swish it around the mouth for about 10 minutes, it will work wonders. Then spit it out. Ya, it tastes like crap, but you can get used to it (I'd rather swish with DMSO than H2O2). It really works, much better than CS alone,

Re: CS>Ion Speed

2008-09-02 Thread Marshall Dudley
The average speed of ions is determined by two main factors. First the force on the ion, which is a product the voltage gradient, and the charge of the ion, divided by the weight of the ion gives it an acceleration rate. During this time of acceleration it goes from 0 average velocity (actuall

Re: CS>CMO/Glucosamine with MSM

2008-09-02 Thread Marshalee Hallett
Hi, Ernie, All I can say is Yes, I used CMO, and MSM and glucosamine, along with ibuprofen and the hot pad and magnets on the knees for pain, and it all worked. I`m now pretty much pain free. I still hurt a bit after I drink milk, and I have a knee that hurts occasionally from an old injury, but

Re: CS>Moon phases

2008-09-02 Thread Dan Nave
Comments in-line: > From: Neville[SMTP:nevillem...@bigpond.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:18:03 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Moon phases > > Hi Sol, > > Hey, you've raised a couple of things here which is why I am starting > to relax, settle down, and am becoming m

CS>Rose Hips Questions

2008-09-02 Thread Dan Nave
Someone gave me some rose hips. These are still green. Do they have to be more mature (ripe) in order to be useful as a food or vitamin source, or can they be harvested anytime? Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are p

Re: CS>Moon phases..sun spots and glass, current and voltage ..high/low and no frequencies blah blah blah

2008-09-02 Thread Ode Coyote
To keep voltage constant, the current has to vary with conductivity. Voltage controls *how fast* ions move and there are no particles TO move..it's ALL Ions. Current controls *how many* Ions move. Particles play a role later as Ions and Anions find each other. The more of each in any given s

CS>Resistors.

2008-09-02 Thread Neville
Hey Malcolm, I just read your bit about 'resistors', I actually solder in, what I believe, is a resistor. Make sure nobody else reads the following, but.are resistors those tiny ceramic things that have little bands of varying colours and with a wire passing through it? I did some research

Re: CS>TO WHOM IT CONCERNS.

2008-09-02 Thread Neville
That's the picture I am beginning to see now Wayne, and I can understand it better now. I will get a current limiter shortly and make another unit and 'play' around with it. Cheers. - Original Message - From: "Wayne Fugitt" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:31 PM Subject: Re

Re: CS>Power Supply Characteristics

2008-09-02 Thread Neville
Morning Wayne, Yep, I get the picture, although I get none of the picture after the first sentence, (sorry, but can't stop laughing as you would know by now that my knowledge of electronics is...zilch! and the joke's on me I'm afraid, not you). I'm beginning to wonder what you guys must be th

Re: CS>TO WHOM IT CONCERNS.

2008-09-02 Thread Neville
What can I say Malcolm, you all have been of invaluable assistance. I think I have three analogies now of which I am beginning to get a better understanding of the electronics of CS units. I have only made the basic units but have always had in the back of my mind looking into current limiter

Re: CS>Motor Neuron Disease - antibiotics

2008-09-02 Thread Paula Perry
Rowena, My problem was with the aspect of the Dr. claiming to practice Molecular Medicine. Obviously he isn't with the protocol under discussion,-which was extended use of antibiotics. Paula - Original Message - From: "Rowena" To: Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 11:28 PM Subject: Re: C

Re: CS>TO WHOM IT CONCERNS.

2008-09-02 Thread Wayne Fugitt
At 02:02 AM 9/2/2008, you wrote: Current is high when first starting and gradually falls as production proceeds. What is required is a 'current limiter' so that when enough time has passed and the process gets to the current limiter Just use your current meter and stop watch to see what is h

CS>Power Supply Characteristics

2008-09-02 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Morning Neville, At 11:15 PM 9/1/2008, you wrote: Here's something I find curious...when I connect a multimeter to the electrodes on my 24V mains power unit I get a reading of 30V... How can this be so? Why doesn't it read 24V as stated on the power adaptor? If it's complicated and/or l

CS>Bionaid (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-09-02 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I got around to reading the info on the Bionaid web site, looking for opinions. If true on particle size it could be interesting. But there is also the old saying if it is working why change or mess with it (CS). What is the particle size on the 1 CS

Re: CS>TO WHOM IT CONCERNS.

2008-09-02 Thread Malcolm
Hi Neville, "to whom it concerns"? You, I think,. Anyway, I'll take a shot at this; think of electricity as analogous to water; think of voltage as the pressure the water has tending to force it through, well, whatever; a hose (wire) a nozzle (resistor), a large or small pipe (big or small wire,a

Re: CS>More Science Efforts to make CS, Maybe

2008-09-02 Thread Neville
Nup, Virgo! - Original Message - From: "Dee" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: Re: CS>More Science Efforts to make CS, Maybe Your star sign doesn't happen to be Aquarius, does it Neville? dee Neville wrote: This is the bug bear for me Wayne because althoug

Re: CS>Moon phases

2008-09-02 Thread Neville
Hi Dee, Well it's only because it's been pretty hard trying to find credible information, and people who I consider are worth listening to that I made those comments and you lot have put explanations together in a much simpler fashion so that a lay person like myself can digest it and see the

Re: CS>More Science Efforts to make CS, Maybe

2008-09-02 Thread Dee
Your star sign doesn't happen to be Aquarius, does it Neville? dee Neville wrote: This is the bug bear for me Wayne because although I keep saying that I want to keep things simple, without all the scientific mumbo jumbo, I still get sucked in to a damn 'learn more' thing!! It would be so

Re: CS>Moon phases

2008-09-02 Thread Dee
Don't worry about that Neville, this is a CS list primarily so all and any questions on the main subject are acceptable. Its only when some of us digress off topic excessively that things can get a bit 'hairy'! dee Neville wrote: Hi ode, If you will grant me the liberty of digressing brie

CS>TO WHOM IT CONCERNS.

2008-09-02 Thread Neville
OK people, by George I do believe I have finally got it. I have been digesting all of this while you were all making 'zeds' and now the light bulb has finally lit. If I understood electricity better I would have seen it earlier. Current is high when first starting and gradually falls as produc