> Peter Rebaudo wrote:
>
> > This question was initiated by an article about a
> device made out a old
> > diathermy machine ( 10KHz). The author
> instructions were to connect the
> > indifferent pole of the secondary coil to 2
> plates that seems to act as
> > antennas.
> > The instructions dat
> > The moon is too far away to influence any of
> the parameters that
> > affect the cs process. When you get unrepeatable
> results, you need
> > to control these parameters better.
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >
> >Mike Monett
You're up against the consensus here, Thomas the
Doubter... scie
--- Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> Heck. I've heard that even the moon phase can
> affect outcome.
People think you are crazy when this is mentioned. But
I have also noticed that when a batch is made during a
full moon at night, the conductivity appears slightly
higher at start of batch, then the same
--- Robert Berger wrote:
> Hi Ode,
>
> Tell me how to insulate a coin for an arc that is
> 1/2" to 2" below the water
> surface and still be able to adjust the arc.
>
> "Ole Bob"
>
> Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> > Why not use gold bullion coins?
> >
> > Ode
I am now working on some possibilities of
BEFORE I GET A SLEW OF REPLIES ABOUT THE DANGERS HERE,
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I AM NOT MAKING THIS FOR HUMAN
CONSUMPTION!
If we look at some of the expertise on this list, we
find that the "experts" are out there. Particularly
relevant here is a simple question of
electrochemistry.
Are there certa
Thought the following URL might be interesting to
those using the high voltage AC method.
This link is somewhat interesting, and talks about
testing neon sign
transformers.
http://www.signweb.com/neon/tips/neontip7.html
Sincerely HDN
=
Tesla Research Group; Pioneering the Applications of I
--- Trem wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> I've been recently making CG using HVAC underwater
> arcing. It sometimes comes out violet and sometimes
> more of a gray color but it's always crystal clear .
> It seems the arc spacing has a bearing on this.
> Does anyone else make it using HVAC and if so woul
--- Dan Nave wrote:
> I may have been talking out of my hat when I
> mentioned plasticizer, but what I tasted had a
> distinct (to me) paraffin taste...
>
> Dan
>
>
> Mike Monett wrote:
>
> > url:
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61564.html
>
> > CS>Distilled Water
> > From: Dan Na
--- Mike Monett wrote:
> Now WallMart seems to have changed their dw, and I
> haven't been able
> to find any that works as well as their old stuff.
> Maybe it's just a
> batch problem - I really hope so. Good dw is hard
> to find.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mike Monett
> Thought I'd add som
--- Dan Nave wrote:
> You can have any length of electrode you want. For
> equation 1 and 2 it doesn't matter. What does
> matter about the current density, as was shown by
> Mike Monett, is when the current density is very
> low, about .080ma/sqin then the process can be made
> nearly linear a
--- Marshall Dudley wrote:
> I am not sure what all this was trying to tell us.
> Several of us use the NST for making CS, including
> me, and there
> are a few CS units on the market that do so as
> well. This is the reason they are used, and they
> work very well.
>
> Marshall
I am using th
July 8th NST "current limited" CS results.
Note; In the past when I have provided some detailed
examples of the voltage drops that occured from a
current limited voltage source obtained from resonance
of large induction coils, some of the comments I
recieved were this is gooblety gook, or some suc
--- jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote:
> > ...Stuff like this belongs on the off-topic list.
> Well, that's not where this "stuff", so grandly
> propounded
> and suddenly dropped, was found. Why is that?
It was dropped on my part because it is senseless to
argue the point, if those arguments result in c
--- Ruth Bertella wrote:
> Hi Jean -
>
> I bought the $99 generator from www.silverpuppy.com
> (this price included shipping and handling also).
I would venture to think that most colloidal silver
water turns a goldish tint with age. A perfectly clear
solution after finish on a 1 ma current lim
--- ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Harvey,
>
> That's quite the elaborate set up you have there. I
> hope no one in your house
> uses a heart pacer. What is the reason for using all
> of the magnets and
> induction?
>
> Andy
>
The north magnetic pole of a magnet is often cited as
responsib
I refer to the 5 glass in parallel method as the
"bulk" method, because 5 batches in parallel are made
simultaneously. I also employ these 5 identical size
glasses over a row of 3 front SrFe magnets, as I
usually always brew the CS over N magnetic poles, to
make the solution more effective, as
--- Mike Monett wrote:
> From: Harvey Norris
> Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 22:29:46
>
> > PS check your prices for 9 miles of 23 gauge
> wire, as that is what
> > these coils employ.
>
> There is no need to pay catalog price. There are
> plenty of surplus
&
--- Mike Monett wrote:
But we still
> don't know if this circuit is the one he is using:
>
>
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59282.html
Great work here: I see you have the jist of things.
The 330 k however might be better represented as 1 k,
or 1000 ohms, as this is the actual
--- Mike Monett wrote:
> Ref:
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59248.html
>
> Harvey,
>
> Thank you for the information. I will review it and
> post further
> questions.
A similar approach might be had by by employing a
variac to a NST, shorted by the CS cell. A NST
secondary in of
> When you can get your concept to work in
> SPICE, you can be
> reasonably sure it will work in actual hardware.
> If it won't work in
> SPICE, you can be certain it won't work in actual
> hardware.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mike Monett
I WORK from the reverse scenario: first my c
Da I am a a good Russian opposed to your Amerikan
ways...
So let the truth ring freely, not like your govt that
makes your citizens pay extortion fees to pretend your
freedom. So go pay some more reinstatement fees to
drive on your roadways to pretend to your freedoms.
And dont forget to keep your
--- Mike Monett wrote:
> RE: CS>ozone machines
>
> Chuck,
>
> Anyone who studies engineering starts with the
> International System
> of Units, or SI-Units. There are seven SI base
> units and 22 derived
> units, with very strict rules of usage:
>
> http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Un
--- Ivan Anderson wrote:
> It is my understanding that the normal cold corona
> ozone generating
> machines will only produce nitrous oxide when fed
> with moist air.
> Ozone produced for medical purposes (including
> dental caries
> treatment) should be fed with dry air, either by
> passing the
As formerly refered to, this is Radio Shacks expensive
meter, cat 23-174A. I use this meter for making DC amp
measurements, but only on the scale of 4-400 ma, as
the lower scale gives wrong readings, and this is
presumed to be because the meter circuitry employs a
very high internal resistance on t
--- Mike Monett wrote:
> If you are using constant voltage, get thee to
> Radio Shack and buy a
> dvm and some resistors.
Thanx for this fine article Mike. I wanted to pass on
a warning about Radio Shacks "true RMS" DVM.( Cat
22-174A) Most DVM's will show just a negative answer
if we hook u
--- william meyer wrote:
> hi all
> why can't we get other metals and make ionic water
> with our silver machines?
> --
> best
> william meyer
Gold is also made for a health solution, some say it's
a spiritual side. We really need the chemistry experts
here to say what metals dissolve as colloid
--- David Bearrow wrote:
> At 01:50 AM 5/8/03, you wrote:
> > Ignorance is True Bliss. 10 machines? Are you
> going into business?
The battery folks should be amuzed. One of the ways to
reduce voltage is to put more cells in parallel. My CS
battery supply of 19 volts went down to 13 volts with
--- Tony Moody wrote:
> Ahh come on Harvey, answer the question. Put your
> money where your mouth is.
Fear, hope, loss, gain... these are the ongoing
actions of the dream of ego: the self maintaining,
self perpetuating structure which is self delusion
> You trashed my picture and someone els
I doubt whether this thing has any kind of use, but I
use it for my gardening sprouts. It is a single
electrode method. High voltage goes between a glass/
water barrier. Becuase two electrodes are not present
in the AC high voltage solution, the bare minimum of
current is passed, solely due to the
--- Mike Monett wrote:
> > Harvey,
>
> > So are you saying if I hook up the meter like
> this it will blow
> > the fuse every time?
Geez Guys I dont have the time to wade through all the
CS posts! My typical 19 volt worn out 9 volt/3 series
battery supply conducts 170 ma on short, th
--- Tony Moody wrote:
> Here is a picture of how to connect a multimeter.
> Set it according o the
> instructions so that you can read milliamps (mA)
> Tony
>
> Acmeair wrote:
> > jeff, i use the same meter on my setup. i put
> alligator clips on the + and -
> > leads. clip the positive lead fr
--- Robert Berger wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> First let us correct some errors.
>
> The anode the positive electrode is the one that
> supplies the silver . The
> cathode can be anything as it will silver plate.
In many cases I have seen colloid deposits flowing
from both polarity sides on the CS proce
--- ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:
> Good CS should never be milky and black chunks
> should not fall off of the
> wires unless you are in a hurry. If you describe
> your apparatus, others on
> the list might have more useful suggestions. Hope
> this helps.
>
> From: Kevin & Glenda
> I am just
--- Marshall Dudley wrote:
> This is very interesting. I don't believe either of
> us is entirely correct after
> reading this:
>
> http://www.ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo2.htm
I deleted some of these threads so it may already have
been mentioned, but geez folks, hasnt anyone every
heard of the ter
Hey folks, the full moon is just three days away.
Apparently this subject is not mere lunacy! Perhaps my
Wallmart distilled water is not bad like I thought it
might be! So everyone should try making some batches
at nighttime when the moon is out, and see for
yourself whether if makes for a better b
I havent yet obtained a PWT, (pure water tester), and
such a thing is surely needed. However at the start of
a batch I always test the conductivity by noting the
ma consumption by battery method, and the coin holder
I use consistantly keeps the same distance at about
7/8 ths inch. Thus I can note f
--- Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>Persnally, I wouldn't recommend ozonating your
> CS. It will probably
> oxidize the ions and make the CS come out brown or
> black. Silver oxides
> are pretty much inert.
> ken
>
> At 01:43 PM 4/10/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >check this website out. it shows a ozo
> > if anyone has any info that will help me on my
> quest to find the
> > perfect CS. be sure to fill me in. thanx.
Temperature is quite a invariant. the higher the temp
the better the forming of silver colloids. or so they
say. I take the advise of resident experts, and long
brew at
Starting with Wall Mart distilled water and silver
rounds ~ 40% immersed into DW at ~ 3/4 to 7/8ths inch
separation I obtain ~ .9 ma DC current. After 8-10
hours exposed to a current limited current of 1.22 ma,
and retesting with 19 volt battery source, this
voltage rapidly drops to 18 volts and t
Thomas the doubter wonders about the following.
The density of silver is 10.5 g/cc
The density of water is 1 g/cc
This means that if I had a triple beam scale that
measures 1000 grams, two identical volume samples
would be too imperceptible to measure, between 15 ppm
and ordinary distilled. Equal v
--- Ode Coyote wrote:
>Generally speaking, the longer it takes , the
> better the water is. Use
> some of your last batch to start the next.
> Since the time it take to get things started
> varies with the
> water...sometimes by hourstiming a batch without
> knowing where you are
>
--- "Medwith, Robert" wrote:
> I have some 1 troy ounce Silver Bullions
> Question if I use a clean block of steel and a clean
> hammer is there any
> reason or Danger in Flattening out the
> Silver to get a greater surface area
> Planning on using for Low Voltage CS , probably less
> than 20 Vo
--- Shirley Reed wrote:
> I have found that Lugol's Iodine on a joint with a
> little DMSO on it will help the deep pain some.
> Vit. E rubbed in well will too. Even my zapper
> won't get all the pain, but it got most of it and my
> joints are smaller than before zapping. Have to
> stay at i
Some time ago someone sent me several good sites on
the internet regarding making LVDC CS. Been through
the archives looking for that one, cant find it. I
thought I remembered of these had the words "silver
puppy" in the URL.
Can some one repeat a listing of low voltage DC CS
sites? Am I imagining
My freind who has boils on his back is now drinking
the 1.2 ma DC current limited CS daily. It sure is a
relief not to have to clean the coins every hour or
so, which was occuring with the 1.5 ma, and 2.3 ma
versions. It takes quite a long time period to obtain
a quadrupling of initial battery te
--- Dean Miller wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:02:10 -0800, "Trem"
> wrote:
>
> > I believe there was one person that limited
> current to 20
> >milliamps ... with 2 #14 or #12 wires.
>
> Huh? :)
>
> #12 wires can safely carry 20 Amps (let alone
> milliamps).
I think this may be more of a
I Found the following explanation on another list
somewhat helpful in establishing these differences;
I think it would be helpful to define the terms
"voltage source" and "current source" should a
discussion of this nature arise again. A "voltage
source" has the following characteristics: -
--- Ron Cuthbertson wrote:
>
> >Yes, (I presume you mean dividing 27.6V by
> 0.00595A), and yes I did
> >mean 0.00595A or 0.595mA.
> >4K6 = 46,000 Ohms.
>
> Should 4K6 not equal 4,600 Ohms?
>
> Ron
> --
> Ron Cuthbertson
I was confused about this also, but I think Ivan meant
the 46,000 ohms.
--- Ron wrote:
> Unprecedented Historical Documentation of Colloidal
> "Collosols" Silver
>
> Scientific American, Volume 78, Page 2 & 3 -
> 1914
>
>
> Scientific American Supplement No. 2009 - July 4,
> 1914
> On Metallic Colloids and Their Bactericidal
> Properties*
>
> The History
--- Jim Meissner wrote:
> I purchase #12 silver wire for the CS generators
> that I make from
> monsterslayer.com or http://www.metalworks.com or
> (505) 598-5322
> I noticed they sell silver "sheets" and "tubular"
> shapes also.
Thanks Jim, I have been lurking on the list for awhile
hoping to
(Note;Below I have outlined a method whereby a single
electrode can be used for CS production. I need to
find a source for proper silver wire in this regard. I
also wish to mix this with much larger 5 gallon
samples of energized tap water made by J ellis
device.)
Hi all, resubscribed to list to ge
This is some real BS, you purchase a mail service that
then gives you no way to delete a page at a time. This
is false advertising: the service does not work as
advertised.!!! Now my 25 MB mailbox is now full and I
cant spend 8 hours deleting each letter one at a time.
HDN
=
Binary Resonant S
--- "Robert L. Berger" wrote:
> Hi Ya'all,
>
> I have just make a gallon batch of 25 ppm CS using
> the HVAC ARC CO2
> method.
>
> As usual I data log everything. It started out at at
> 35 ma & 5.4 kv at
> about 5 minutes it was 60 ma at 1.5 kv. At the end
> of two ours the
> current was 55 ma
--- "Robert L. Berger" wrote:
> Hi Ya'all,
>
> I am looking for the member that is aslo
(dslexian)on the
> Tesla list.
>
There are some 800 people on the tesla list, quite a
few probably also on the silver list. So I dont know
if you wish to correspond off list with me, but I
thought the follow
Brother Robert has produced two 1964 Kennedy Silver
half dollars for CS production, I assume these are
safe to use?
A water container to fit inside the large 56 Henry
coil has dimensions of 4 inch diameter and 11 inch
length.
The Tesla Electric Co, can procure the large induction
coils for other
Since "structured water" is made by RELATIVE movement
of a magnetic field to water, Why cant we instead have
an 60 hz AC magnetic field moving in a nonmoving
sample of water to produce the same effect. If that
will work wouldnt a high frequency AC be better? HDN
=
Binary Resonant Systemhttp:/
Sent this 3 days ago, hasnt appeared on the list to my
knowledge, so I am resending from my sent mail folder.
>
> --- Marshall Dudley wrote:
> > "A :. A :." wrote:
> >
> > > i always thought kinetic energy was just
> > > 'potential' energy.
> >
> > Kenetic energy and potential energy are two
>
--- Marshall Dudley wrote:
> "A :. A :." wrote:
>
> > i always thought kinetic energy was just
> > 'potential' energy.
>
> Kenetic energy and potential energy are two
> different forms of energy. Water behind a
> dam is potential energy, water going over the dam,
> and the electricity made by
--- Marshall Dudley wrote:
> Steve & Jackie Young wrote:
>
> > I also don't understand how his proposed method
> will make fine quality small
> > sized colloids. If high PPM are generated in only
> 3 minutes, than an awful
> > lot of current (several hundred milliamps?) was
> used which likely
>From what I gather, there seems to be a host of
methods for making colloidal silver water, including
even using the higher voltages of NST's, which are
current limited transformers that can take a dead
short. I now have several large induction coils set up
for allowing the passage of a "dead shor
--- wwen...@aol.com wrote:
> Harvey,
>
> I guess I missed the post but would like to know
> more about your gout
> treatment. My sister-in-law was recently diagnosed
> with this.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jules
>
> I had it twice, the first time for about a month.
Once the foot starts swelling thats i
--- Ivan Anderson wrote:
> Gee Harvey, you sure have been busy!
>
> I took a look at your web site...most of what you
> write goes right over
> my head, however if I read it right, you are able to
> produce multiple
> frequencies from the one transformer, and suspect
> that you have found
> the
--- Del Crow wrote:
> Ok... but some questions. What testing indicates
> bacterial and viral
> killing capacity at 1 ppm? Doubtless some of the
> little stinkers would be
> effectively inactivated or killed...which ones have
> you tried your colloid
> on? Is your calculation of the ppm unquest
--- "Robert L. Berger" wrote:
> Roger;
>
> When I used the aec method for CS it generated up to
> 80 ppm of NO3 with ia one
> big NO NO!. I solved the problem with the use of a
> SO2 blanket in the freeboard
> of the brew cell.
What is SO2 blanket and freeboard?
Thanks for this info, as I was
--- rogalt...@aol.com wrote:
> Chuck: What was the wire gauge you used and what was
> the distance from the
> immersed wire to the one held slightly above the
> water? Roger
>
> Here's a repost of how I did it over a year ago:
>
>
> Well,
> My son came up with a 9kv neon xfmer for me toda
--- rogalt...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/3/00 8:42:19 PM EST,
> dtmil...@midiowa.net writes:
>
> << I've been trying to figure out what electrode
> material will
> electrolyze water without adding something to the
> water. So far, I'm
> clueless (well, some say that's my normal stat
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