RE: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV

1999-12-13 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV James, the global effect is independent from polarity. When the wire is positively charged, the negative end of the dipole is attracted and will be directed closer to the wire, the positive is repulsed, is furt

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1999-12-12 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
er 11, 1999 1:43 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV Hi James, Nothing so exotic, my friend. Just the valency state of the electron, x+, x++, x+++ and so on. Some atoms exist as +6 ions, gold for example has a predisposition for the +3 stat

RE: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV

1999-12-12 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
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1999-12-12 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV Yes, James, I have to be more specific. I hope, I have well understood your questions. Strong and weak forces are dealing with nuclear physics. The energies involved are about a million times higher than in our cases. The time scales

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1999-12-12 Thread D G
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1999-12-11 Thread Guenter Poelz
999 12:00 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > > Hello James, > many thanks for your interest > "James Osbourne, Holmes" schrieb: > > > > Hi Guenter, > > > > Thanks for your continuing comments. >

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1999-12-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
:13 Subject: RE: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > Hello, > > "...correct in thinking of the zeta reading being quantised in distinct but > probably unequal steps..." Details? Part of an electron? I Know > "spin" can be fractional, but charge? > >

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1999-12-10 Thread D G
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1999-12-10 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
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1999-12-10 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
ge- From: Ivan Anderson [SMTP:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 4:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > Hi Guys, > > May this mean that the tendency for particles to stay apart is a function of Zeta? And Zeta

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1999-12-10 Thread Ivan Anderson
> Hi Guys, > > May this mean that the tendency for particles to stay apart is a function of Zeta? And Zeta is quantatized 1,2,3. > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com Exactly. Chemists can adjust the stability of their colloids by adding surfactants, salts etc, and quantifying the results w

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1999-12-10 Thread Ivan Anderson
> > Hi Marshall, > > My take on this is that the larger particles found in *some* LVDC > > systems come from the accumulation of metallic silver at the cathode > > finding its way into the solution. It is my view that the silver > > leaves the anode as single ions in all systems, and the process o

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1999-12-10 Thread Charles King
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1999-12-10 Thread Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America
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1999-12-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Guenter Poelz [SMTP:po...@mail.desy.de] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 12:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV Hello James, many thanks for your interest "James

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1999-12-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
...@win.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 3:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV But does he take colloidal silver? Ivan. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, 9 December 1999 13:24 Subject: RE:

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1999-12-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Thursday, 9 December 1999 03:07 Subject: Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > > I believe that the smaller particles make it far away from the electrode &

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1999-12-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Another great reference Ivan, thanks again. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [SMTP:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV - Origi

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1999-12-09 Thread Guenter Poelz
ne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Guenter Poelz [SMTP:po...@mail.desy.de] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 12:17 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > > James, > the globa

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1999-12-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ivan Anderson wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Marshall Dudley > To: > Sent: Thursday, 9 December 1999 03:07 > Subject: Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > > > > > I believe that the smaller particles make it far away from the > electrode &g

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1999-12-09 Thread Ivan Anderson
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Thursday, 9 December 1999 03:07 Subject: Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > > I believe that the smaller particles make it far away from the electrode > at the high voltage and 1/120 of a second to mostly not get pull

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1999-12-09 Thread Ivan Anderson
- Original Message - From: Fred To: Sent: Thursday, 9 December 1999 07:28 Subject: Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > Ivan, > > I appreciate your addition to this complex problem (the more to > consider the better the analysis), but must question your last paragraph

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1999-12-09 Thread Ivan Anderson
Thanks Geunter, You have explained it well. Me too, I knew nothing about colloid science etc. 2 years ago. Ivan - Original Message - From: Guenter Poelz To: Sent: Thursday, 9 December 1999 08:17 Subject: Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > thanks Ivan that you mention that,

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1999-12-09 Thread Ivan Anderson
But does he take colloidal silver? Ivan. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, 9 December 1999 13:24 Subject: RE: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > Hi Guys, > > Dr. Hunter says that DI is not a reliable method of making ultra-pure > water

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1999-12-08 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
, 1999 11:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV << File: ATT1.html >> Ivan, I appreciate your addition to this complex problem (the more to consider the better the analysis), but must question your last paragraph: "Th

RE: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV

1999-12-08 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Guenter Poelz [SMTP:po...@mail.desy.de] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 12:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV James, the global effect is independent from polarity. When

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1999-12-08 Thread Guenter Poelz
-- Original Message ----- > From: Guenter Poelz > To: > Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 1999 06:26 > Subject: Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > > > Hello Fred and James and the others, > > one should not forget that in water one has always also OH- and H+ > ions &g

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1999-12-08 Thread Guenter Poelz
m: Guenter Poelz [SMTP:po...@mail.desy.de] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:27 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV > > Hello Fred and James and the others, > one should not forget that in water one has always als

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1999-12-08 Thread Guenter Poelz
thanks Fred for your response. unfortunately I don't know anything about ZETA potentials. I think I have read something on this list in the past. There must be experts around. Hope you find one, Günter Fred schrieb: > > Thanks Gunther, for the in depth explaination of possible particle charges, >

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1999-12-08 Thread Fred
Ivan, I appreciate your addition to this complex problem (the more to consider the better the analysis), but must question your last paragraph: "There is no doubt that HVAC silver sols are ionic, in that the particles carry a charge, as can be easily attested by a conductivity reading." Conduc

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1999-12-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ivan Anderson wrote: > Another thing Guenter, > > As the AC wave form is sinusoidal, when the voltage passes through > zero to the opposite sign, the attractive force is low but the > particles having some inertia, drift further from the electrode. This > and the fact that the solution acts to sl

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1999-12-08 Thread Ivan Anderson
doubt that HVAC silver sols are ionic, in that the particles carry a charge, as can be easily attested by a conductivity reading. Regards - Ivan. - Original Message - From: Guenter Poelz To: Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 1999 06:26 Subject: Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV >

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1999-12-07 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
:Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV Hello Fred and James and the others, one should not forget that in water one has always also OH- and H+ ions (and with changing concentrations during the process) . Assume an Ag+ has been released from the anode, it may combine for a while with a

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1999-12-07 Thread Guenter Poelz
Hello Fred and James and the others, one should not forget that in water one has always also OH- and H+ ions (and with changing concentrations during the process) . Assume an Ag+ has been released from the anode, it may combine for a while with a OH- forming AgOH and being neutral then. It will not

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1999-12-06 Thread Fred
James, I wish I could afford the time to delve into the physics end of this but we are branching out into so many areas here that it would take years to study/relearn the mechanics of crystal formation, molecular energy interactions, etc. Keep at it if you can, but I must rely on good old engineer

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1999-12-04 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Fred, I wish I could go back to school and study this stuff. I really cannot answer your questions, nor critique your proposed mechanism with any confidence. Here are some of my thoughts on the matters. An ion, by definition is a charged particle. That says nothing about the origin of th