[SLUG] Need a Pearls Writer...

2000-08-09 Thread Jeff Waugh
Hi all, The lack of Pearls for the last three weeks has been noticed, but due to a large project I'm working on, and a bit of a move, I haven't had the time to write them. If someone would like to write a Pearls #10 and perhaps this weeks (on Sunday), I'd very much appreciate it. #8 and #9 I've

Re: [SLUG] UUCP Query

2000-08-09 Thread jasonb
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Anthony Rumble wrote: > > Ie./ > > uux machinea!uux "uux machineb!program" > > Or something to that effect.. > I actually got it working late last night. I found a reference in the info files (Thanks Herbert) for the 'forward-to' keyword in the sys files. I added the h

Re: [SLUG] UUCP Query

2000-08-09 Thread Anthony Rumble
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Are there any UUCP experts out there - and yes, uucp is still a very > useful tool. I just can't find the bit of info I'm after in the doco... > > I have a number of machines running uucp for a reliable store-and-foreward > file transfer mechanism:

RE: [SLUG] Re: Linux drivers to Solaris

2000-08-09 Thread John Wiltshire
From: Angus Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 10:19:30PM +1000, Rachel Polanskis wrote: >> I just spotted this on a newsgroup: >> >> There is now a Network Driver Porting Kit for porting Linux >drivers to >> Solaris x86 8 available from: >> >> http://soldc.sun.com/dev

[SLUG] Re: Linux drivers to Solaris

2000-08-09 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 10:19:30PM +1000, Rachel Polanskis wrote: > I just spotted this on a newsgroup: > > There is now a Network Driver Porting Kit for porting Linux drivers to > Solaris x86 8 available from: > > http://soldc.sun.com/developer/support/driver/tools/tools.html hmm, everyone s

Re: [SLUG] Re: Help, please, with shell scripting for computing checksums

2000-08-09 Thread Matthew Sanderson
I use find . -type f -printf "\"%p\"\n" | xargs ... which I think is a little more portable (less GNU-dependant). But same thing. --matt On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Roland Turner wrote: > > > > find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > md5.list > > > > The -print0 argument

RE: [SLUG] What to do

2000-08-09 Thread Mehmet Yousouf
My kids have been using SO 5.2, no crashes yet, have left it running for 2 weeks at one time.. has a built in benefit as well - after you start it you have time to get your self a cup of coffee ... in perth and be back in time to watch it finish loading. It definately is more resource hungry

RE: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-09 Thread John Wiltshire
From: marty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Ok, so now you have redundant routes to your network. The >network can exist >> in multiple physical locations connected by a VLAN link to >make it appear >> all on the one subnet. Each of your ISP routes would go to >the different >> physical locati

Re: [SLUG] Billy Boy is arriving

2000-08-09 Thread Jon Biddell
At 11:34 AM 8/10/00 , Ken Yap wrote: >It was fun reading the proposed antics, but seriously I don't believe >placards and people in penguin suits are productive. It will just give >the hostiles more pretext to dismiss us as a bunch of longhair geeks. >The refund day protests over preinstalled Wind

RE: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-09 Thread marty
> You can define multiple routes to a network. For example, you may have a > connection via OzEmail and Access One and define routes through both > providers. BGP will advertise them both and external clients will choose > their best route (or possibly load balance between them). which is why p

Re: [SLUG] Miguel's "Unix Sucks" Paper

2000-08-09 Thread Ken Yap
Miguel does have a point though. GUI apps don't play together as well as command line apps in Unix. What annoys me is how it's very difficult to invoke my mailer (exmh) from within Netscape. It involves a shared object I haven't got around to trying out, and it doesn't carry over information like

Re: [SLUG] Billy Boy is arriving

2000-08-09 Thread Ken Yap
It was fun reading the proposed antics, but seriously I don't believe placards and people in penguin suits are productive. It will just give the hostiles more pretext to dismiss us as a bunch of longhair geeks. The refund day protests over preinstalled Windows and EULA on laptops were different, t

RE: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-09 Thread John Wiltshire
From: marty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >sorry if this is a dumb question: >can you have multiple routes to a single IP ?? >surely at some point you have to have a SPF... Not a dumb question at all. You can define multiple routes to a network. For example, you may have a connection via OzEmail

Acronyms (was Re: [SLUG] Miguel's "Unix Sucks" Paper)

2000-08-09 Thread Conrad Parker
For some reason I found the mess of acronyms hilarious. The only actual words in there were "Unix" and "Bonobo" both of which are, in a very loose sense, types of monkey. On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 09:32:06AM +1000, John Wiltshire kind of wrote: > > You are thinking of Distributed Component Object

RE: [SLUG] Billy Boy is arriving

2000-08-09 Thread George Vieira
Yeah sure... with those big cards and a picture of a winking penguin. thanks, George Vieira Network Administrator Citadel Computer Systems P/L http://www.citadelcomputer.com.au -Original Message- From: Pete Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2000 10:37 AM To: [E

Re: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-09 Thread marty
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Roland Turner wrote: > John Wiltshire wrote: > > > Just because there is a single IP address doesn't make it a single point of > > failure. As you mentioned, it is possible to have a farm of mail servers, > > though you forget that you can have multiple routes from the inter

RE: [SLUG] What to do

2000-08-09 Thread Jill Rowling
Yet other people seem to be using Staroffice on Linux so I thought it might be just a configuration thing. I think I will have to rtfm again. - Jill. ___ Jill Rowling Snr Design Engineer & Unix System Administrator Electronic Engineering Department, Aristo

RE: [SLUG] What to do

2000-08-09 Thread Dave Fitch
Jill Rowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Now the only things left are to figure our why StarOffice crashes the whole > machine (could be an X bug again but I haven't checked that I have the exact > shared libraries that it needs). a couple of times now I've had staroffice (5.1 or older I think) runnin

Re: [SLUG] squid cache problem

2000-08-09 Thread Scott Howard
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 08:31:34AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > I'm getting lots of errors like this one on /var/log/messages: > > Aug 6 04:02:17 octagonal kernel: EXT2-fs error (device ide1(22,1)): ext2_new_block: >Free blocks count corrupted for block group 57 Your filesystem is

Re: [SLUG] Billy Boy is arriving

2000-08-09 Thread Pete Black
If you want better coverage, let's do it at the Olympics. Around about 2203h 09/08/2000, Rick Welykochy delivered the following wisdom: > This should get the message through: > > > > _|_|_|_| _| _| _|_| _| _| > _| _|_|_|_|

Re: [SLUG] Re: [Oz-ISP] Linux -v- M$ Costs

2000-08-09 Thread Dave Fitch
jason andrade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Lincoln Dale wrote: > > you might want to instead look at something by companies like cobalt > > networks or valinux. (standalone pre-configured, self-maintaining, _with > > support_.). > > you'll also want to look at the new Dell PowerA

RE: [SLUG] squid cache problem

2000-08-09 Thread Jill Rowling
Er - did you pull the disk out before you umounted it? (Red faces here did just that a couple nights ago; similar error messages) - Jill. ___ Jill Rowling Snr Design Engineer & Unix System Administrator Electronic Engineering Department, Aristocrat Technol

RE: [SLUG] What to do

2000-08-09 Thread Jill Rowling
Hi Dennis (and others), I have had similar problems with X apps on SuSE with KDE. Same recourse as you had to do (reboot). It was driving me nuts so I first disabled X from starting automatically. For SuSE this meant changing the default runlevel to 2 in /etc/inittab; not sure what it is for RedH

Re: ADSL is not a direct connection to *The*Internet* (Was: ADSLrant (was: Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable Anouncement))

2000-08-09 Thread kevin
Steve Kowalik wrote: > > Guys, > > ihug is trialing ADSL as well, so there is a choice coming. > As is Oceania Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] cut'n'paste (was Miguel's "Unix Sucks")

2000-08-09 Thread Jamie Honan
> Raph went through the code later on, and found the obvious cut'n'pastes. > So he says, libjpeg is not something you'd ever rewrite. In this particular case, obviously he was wrong. (And he was certain to be wrong with libjpeg :) However, I don't think there is a hard and fast rule wrt code re

[SLUG] Re: [Oz-ISP] Linux -v- M$ Costs

2000-08-09 Thread jason andrade
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Lincoln Dale wrote: > you might want to instead look at something by companies like cobalt > networks or valinux. (standalone pre-configured, self-maintaining, _with > support_.). you'll also want to look at the new Dell PowerApp which has started being sold in australia.

[SLUG] Fun image on Modelsim's website

2000-08-09 Thread Jill Rowling
Hi people, Modelsim ( http://www.model.com/ ) have been porting their VHDL simulation products to Linux for some time now (from NT and Solaris). Please note this is most definitely not free software however I just thought you might get a laugh out of the animated image on their web page (well, un

[SLUG] gdm problems

2000-08-09 Thread Dennis M. Gray
Sorry this message is a bit long but I need a clue. Thanks. Last night I reported that I am no longer able to start my display after a crash I suffered with VMWare. I have not had the time to research the problem thoroughly so hope I can get some pointers from here. Since my posting last night I

RE: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread DaZZa
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Dave Kempe wrote: > > download faster than it uploads. In theory you can get a full 56k > > download speed, but not upload (all depending on line quality). > > That is all defined by the V.90 standard. An article on Slashdot a while > back suggest that the IEEE is going to ch

RE: [SLUG] Miguel's "Unix Sucks" Paper

2000-08-09 Thread John Wiltshire
From: Andrew Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 02:54:14AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: >> >> COM -> Bonobo > >Ah, but RCP -> DCE -> CORBA -> COM (not directly, but conceptually). You are thinking of DCOM, not COM. It's actually a lot more complex than that. MacOS -> Windo

Re: [SLUG] Linux -v- M$ Costs (fwd)

2000-08-09 Thread DaZZa
{I forgot to CC the list - sorry if you see this twice, Howard} On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote: > The areas I am looking at are: > > Firewalls and Internet connectivity. What does M$ need here? There are a number of products, but the only one which really works is Firewall1 - mucho

Re: [SLUG] Billy Boy is arriving

2000-08-09 Thread DaZZa
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > A) He's not going to be here in person > > > HH yes he will be. :) Must be for a different event than I read the press release for, then. I was under the impression they were doing it as a web cast. How about we use a meat pie {hot, of course!

Re: [SLUG] Miguel's "Unix Sucks" Paper

2000-08-09 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 02:54:14AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Of course code reuse is a Good Thing[tm], but most programmers i > > know will not search for hours looking for a module, they will write their > > own. It isn't it just UNIX, it is people's attitudes as well. I think that's the

RE: [SLUG] Linux -v- M$ Costs

2000-08-09 Thread John Wiltshire
From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Guys, thanks for all the info on this topic. The bloody M$ prices are >even higher than I originally contemplated, perhaps I have >been avoiding >Microsh!t for too long to not be aware of the costs. > >It really makes you wonder about whether th

[SLUG] Re: [Oz-ISP] Linux -v- M$ Costs

2000-08-09 Thread Lincoln Dale
At 02:57 09/08/00, Howard Lowndes wrote: >I have a good idea what the Linux costings will work out at, but I am not >too sure of the M$ costs. If anyone has any info in this field they would >care to impart I would be grateful. for linux costs, rather than thinking of it as an exercise of: (1)

Re: [SLUG] Linux -v- M$ Costs

2000-08-09 Thread Howard Lowndes
Guys, thanks for all the info on this topic. The bloody M$ prices are even higher than I originally contemplated, perhaps I have been avoiding Microsh!t for too long to not be aware of the costs. It really makes you wonder about whether these businesses that go down the M$ path understand what i

[SLUG] squid cache problem

2000-08-09 Thread jimd
Hi, I'm getting lots of errors like this one on /var/log/messages: Aug 6 04:02:17 octagonal kernel: EXT2-fs error (device ide1(22,1)): ext2_new_block: Free blocks count corrupted for block group 57 Aug 6 04:02:17 octagonal (squid): Write failure -- check your disk space and cache.log Aug 6 0

RE: [SLUG] Linux -v- M$ Costs

2000-08-09 Thread John Wiltshire
From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >I am trying to put together a cost comparison for a client >comparing the >costs of going down the wholly M$ path as against the Linux servers/M$ >desktop path. > >The client is a small office setup with around 10 >workstations. They will >want

Re: [SLUG] Miguel's "Unix Sucks" Paper

2000-08-09 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Steve Kowalik wrote: > > Seems like a lame attempt to sell Bonobo/Helix stuff... > Of course code reuse is a Good Thing[tm], but most programmers i > know will not search for hours looking for a module, they will write their > own. It isn't it just UNIX, it is people's attitudes as

Re: [SLUG] Miguel's "Unix Sucks" Paper

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Kowalik
Jeff, Seems like a lame attempt to sell Bonobo/Helix stuff... Of course code reuse is a Good Thing[tm], but most programmers i know will not search for hours looking for a module, they will write their own. It isn't it just UNIX, it is people's attitudes as well. My 2.2 cents.

[SLUG] Miguel's "Unix Sucks" Paper

2000-08-09 Thread Jeff Waugh
Hi all, Advance warning that Miguel's "Unix Sucks" paper is up on his Helixcode site... http://www.helixcode.com/~miguel/bongo-bong.html Comments? - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.org.au/installfest/ ht

Re: [SLUG] Linux -v- M$ Costs

2000-08-09 Thread Stephen Mills
> >Ive found MS product to be overpriced, havent we all ? > >For eg. An unlimited version of MS SQL 7.0 will set you back a cool $48,000. > > We did a costing for a 100 user SBS system, ignoring all hardware > requirements, and it came to a shade under $100k - I kid you not !! That > was for CAL'

Re: [SLUG] Curious Packet Logs

2000-08-09 Thread ken
> Aug 9 22:39:39 snuggles kernel: Packet log: input DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 > 138.25.7.4:2438 24.192.32.16:113 L=60 S=0x00 I=21034 F=0x4000 T=48 SYN > (#2) > > Apart from a line from /var/log/messages. > > They turn up in the log file when i send mail from my mail server to my > isp's mail server. I

Re: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Tom Massey
Dave Kempe wrote: > That is all defined by the V.90 standard. An article on Slashdot a while > back suggest that the IEEE is going to change it with a new standard. Make > it symetrical both ways . I can't find any info so maybe im dreaming about > that bit. Just gotta wait for damn communication

RE: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Dave Kempe
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/07/21/0242231&mode=nested thatd be it. Any one tried V.92 or even support it? dave > That is all defined by the V.90 standard. An article on Slashdot a while > back suggest that the IEEE is going to change it with a new standard. Make > it symetrical both

Re: ADSL is not a direct connection to *The*Internet* (Was: ADSL rant (was: Re: [SLUG] Telstra Cable Anouncement))

2000-08-09 Thread Jon Biddell
At 08:39 AM 8/9/00 , DaZZa wrote: >On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Rick Welykochy wrote: > >> > Who died and made you god, Rick? >> >> The King. > >He's not dead, he's running the 7/11 at Hornsby! Thank you very much... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http:/

Re: [SLUG] Linux -v- M$ Costs

2000-08-09 Thread Jon Biddell
>Ive done a few SBS installs, and I might add they cause endless grief is >something is broken, SBS 4.0 was an absolute shocker, and SBS 4.5 is slighly >better...You fix something, and it breaks something else... I can heartily second that - I even did the MicroScum SBS 4.5 Training Course (h

Re: [SLUG] Free T-Shirt Offer/Installfest

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Kowalik
Jason, See Below... Steve "First, it's done on UNIX, then done on Windows. It's always the way..." On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Jason Rennie wrote: > Hi all, > > As you all know SLUG is running a bit install fest at macquarie uni on the > 26

Re: [SLUG] Debian equiviland of mmencode?

2000-08-09 Thread Herbert Xu
Rodos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Two things are missing. One I can do without is basename. Are you sure? It's in shellutils which is an essential package. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apan

RE: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Dave Kempe
> Sounds about right to me. But I think there's a difference in the speed > a 56k modem can upload and download - downloads should be faster, > because there you're changing digital to analogue, which should work > better than the analogue to digital required for uploading info. I think > I've go

Re: [SLUG] Billy Boy is arriving

2000-08-09 Thread Rick Welykochy
Rick Welykochy wrote: > This should get the message through: > > _|_|_|_| _| _| _|_| _| _| > _| _|_|_|_| _|_|_| _| > _| _|_| _| _| _|_| _| > _| _|_|

Re: [SLUG] Billy Boy is arriving

2000-08-09 Thread Rick Welykochy
Howard Lowndes wrote: > > How about a row full of Linux afficionados each with an A2 card (folded to > A4 size so that it can be readily infiltrated into the session. Then on a > signal, when the TV cameras are roaming around, open the cards to read: > > L I N U X - R U L E S > > That sh

Re: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Jason Rennie
> Sounds about right to me. But I think there's a difference in the speed > a 56k modem can upload and download - downloads should be faster, > because there you're changing digital to analogue, which should work > better than the analogue to digital required for uploading info. I think > I've got

[SLUG] Free T-Shirt Offer/Installfest

2000-08-09 Thread Jason Rennie
Hi all, As you all know SLUG is running a bit install fest at macquarie uni on the 26th of august. We need people to run talks, they can be on anything cool to do with linux, or newbie oriented talks, or both :) Also we need people to act as installers. All installers will get a t-shirt for th

Re: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Tom Massey
Jason Rennie wrote: > > > I've (very) occasionally seen 9-10 KB/s, fairly regularly get around 7, > > most often it's around 5-6. I find it amusing that this is with a Lucent > > This apparent speed is actually hardware compression in the modem, or > software compession by the computers. Unless

RE: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Jason Rennie
> mirror.aarnet we had 6.5-7.0k/s for 3 days straight. > It was awesome. I dunnno why that was happening but it was definitely so. > The average out over 3 days was correct too. So it wasn't just crazy client > figures. Go dingo! :) Maybe that is the upper limit, maybe the iso had some redundanc

Re: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-09 Thread Matt Allen
Hey Raz, See Below. Roland Turner wrote: > > Matt Allen wrote: > > > I know exactly what happened but I dont think im at liberty to say. > > > > If you knew the chain of events you would switch over to "awww shit. that sucks > > and is bad luck" mode, i know i did. > > Interesting. I'm skepti

RE: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Dave Kempe
When leeching the debian Alpha isos over our dingoblue 56k connection to mirror.aarnet we had 6.5-7.0k/s for 3 days straight. It was awesome. I dunnno why that was happening but it was definitely so. The average out over 3 days was correct too. So it wasn't just crazy client figures. Go dingo! :)

Re: [SLUG] Curious Packet Logs

2000-08-09 Thread Thom May
from /etc/services: sundiver:~# grep 113 /etc/services auth113/tcp authentication tap ident The remote mailserver is trying to query an identd on your local machine. hth thom On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 10:43:23PM +1000, Jason Rennie wrote: > Hi all, > > can anybody tell me what

Re: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-09 Thread Roland Turner
Matt Allen wrote: > I know exactly what happened but I dont think im at liberty to say. > > If you knew the chain of events you would switch over to "awww shit. that sucks > and is bad luck" mode, i know i did. Interesting. I'm skeptical, but perhaps you can answer this: were the simultaneous a

[SLUG] Curious Packet Logs

2000-08-09 Thread Jason Rennie
Hi all, can anybody tell me what this is ? Aug 9 22:39:39 snuggles kernel: Packet log: input DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 138.25.7.4:2438 24.192.32.16:113 L=60 S=0x00 I=21034 F=0x4000 T=48 SYN (#2) Apart from a line from /var/log/messages. They turn up in the log file when i send mail from my mail serv

Re: [SLUG] Netiquette (a spin-off from RFC: Slug Mailing List FAQ)

2000-08-09 Thread Herbert Xu
Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The RFC Mailing List FAQ is at http://slug.org.au/faq.shtml > You'll find definitions to lots of these in The Jargon File, plus, if you > install `dict', you can get your answers in the terminal you always have > sitting next to mutt. ;) The Jargon file

Re: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Tom Massey
Dave Fitch wrote: > > Tom Massey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I've (very) occasionally seen 9-10 KB/s, fairly regularly get around 7, > > most often it's around 5-6. > > yeah but that's throughput isn't it? True - my 'real' speed is probably closer to 3-4 KB/s at max. > I'm curious that people don'

Re: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Jason Rennie
> I've (very) occasionally seen 9-10 KB/s, fairly regularly get around 7, > most often it's around 5-6. I find it amusing that this is with a Lucent This apparent speed is actually hardware compression in the modem, or software compession by the computers. Unless of course you manage this sort of

Re: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Jason Rennie
> interesting you say "good quality lines" and that you get 50,667 > connects. I too get 50667 or 49333 connects and always called > my phone line "reasonable". Is there anyone that gets more > than 50667k from their 56k modem? When i was working for isp's, i was lead to belive that it wasn't a

Re: [SLUG] SCSI CD-WR... not

2000-08-09 Thread Stephen Mills
I know its a pain but try removing everything except the IBM drive and new Yamaha and triple check your termination. I presume all those devices are 50 pin or you -will- have terminating issues as your last device is narrow. Cheers, Stephen - Original Message - From: "Geoffrey Robertson

[SLUG] What to do

2000-08-09 Thread Dennis Gray
I was experimenting with VMWare in order to run Windows NT on my Linux box. Things went very well for a few days then, all of a sudden, the system froze and I tried to do the ctrl-alt-escape to get control back from the virtual host and it wouldn't work. I did everything to regain control, ctrl-F1

[SLUG] SCSI CD-WR... not

2000-08-09 Thread Geoffrey Robertson
I've just tried to add a SCSI Yamaha CD-RW (8424) to a box today with no success. At boot up the system hangs with the message: ...timeout pid 31 SCSI 0 Ch 0 id 3 lun 0 test not ready 00 00 00 00 00 printed repeatedly anybody able to shed any light on what this means? geoffrey box details: p

Re: [SLUG] Linux -v- M$ Costs

2000-08-09 Thread Stephen Mills
Hey Howard, For a 25 user license for SBS, its around $7400 That includes : MS Windows NT Server 4.0 with Service Pack 4 + Windows NT Option Pack MS Exchange Server 5.5 with Service Pack 2 and Outlook 2000 MS SQL Server 7.0 MS Systems Management Server 2.0 MS Proxy Server 2.0 MS Site Server 3.0

Re: [SLUG] [OT] contracting agency?

2000-08-09 Thread Terry Collins
Angus Lees wrote: > > [sorry for the quite off-topic post] > > i'm looking at "upgrading" a legal firms network, and figured i'd > better actually get professional indemnity assurance. > > the best (cheapest) way of doing this seems to be to do the work > through one of those "cover" agencies.

Re: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-09 Thread Terry Collins
Roland Turner wrote: ...snip > (Notes: > - For those who don't follow, the problem is that having a single MX > means that if that MX is down, the domain's entire mail service is down. > - Telstra is not the only large ISP that exposes itself this way. I am > not suggesting that Telstra is t

Re: [SLUG] Microsloth having a go at Linux....Ooooooh..

2000-08-09 Thread Terry Collins
George Vieira wrote: > > Hi all, > > I had to unfortunately download M$ ScrapPack 6a for our server Is this the one that consists of eleven separate enormous downloads and many manual file copies to upgrade? The permanent NT guy was vehemently spitting chips about it today, so I guess he is und

Re: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Dave Fitch
Tom Massey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dave Fitch wrote: > > interesting you say "good quality lines" and that you get 50,667 > > connects. I too get 50667 or 49333 connects and always called > > my phone line "reasonable". Is there anyone that gets more > > than 50667k from their 56k modem? > > I'v

Re: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Tom Massey
Dave Fitch wrote: > interesting you say "good quality lines" and that you get 50,667 > connects. I too get 50667 or 49333 connects and always called > my phone line "reasonable". Is there anyone that gets more > than 50667k from their 56k modem? I've (very) occasionally seen 9-10 KB/s, fairly

Re: [SLUG] Code Rush : 8:30pm SBS tomorrow

2000-08-09 Thread marty
> > Tomorrow night SBS is showing Code Rush a short > > documentary about Netscape and the browser war > > with Microsoft. This is a must see. i only saw the second half... :( if the first half was as compelling as people seem to be making out, did anyone tape it ?? later marty "I can't buy w

Re: modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Mehmet Ozdemir
> > interesting you say "good quality lines" and that you get 50,667 > connects. I too get 50667 or 49333 connects and always called > my phone line "reasonable". Is there anyone that gets more > than 50667k from their 56k modem? > I friend in hornsby, who was very close to the exchange was ge

Re: [SLUG] Linux -v- M$ Costs

2000-08-09 Thread Mehmet Ozdemir
> > The areas I am looking at are: > > Firewalls and Internet connectivity. What does M$ need here? Firewall there are various firewall product around not sure of prices. As for connectivity, Win2k does have internet connection sharing out of the box > > Licence fees. I can get these worke

Re: [SLUG] Re: Help, please, with shell scripting for computing checksums

2000-08-09 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Roland Turner wrote: > > find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > md5.list > > The -print0 argument to find causes it to put nulls between filenames > (instead of newlines). Aha! Very cool to know - thanks Raz. :) (off I go to change some of my scripts, most of which were piped thro

Re: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-09 Thread Matt Allen
Guys, I know exactly what happened but I dont think im at liberty to say. If you knew the chain of events you would switch over to "awww shit. that sucks and is bad luck" mode, i know i did. They *are* working on the issues and its funny to see everyones point of view (and its fine to have one)

Re: [SLUG] mail service outages

2000-08-09 Thread Roland Turner
John Wiltshire wrote: > Just because there is a single IP address doesn't make it a single point of > failure. As you mentioned, it is possible to have a farm of mail servers, > though you forget that you can have multiple routes from the internet > channeling into the farm, with multiple Cisco

modem connect speeds (was Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL RIP-OFF)

2000-08-09 Thread Dave Fitch
"Michael Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well I have good quality lines.. 50,667 connects on v90 with like 6kb/sec + > transfers.. just need them to confirm my area could have it.. waiting... :) interesting you say "good quality lines" and that you get 50,667 connects. I too get 50667 or 49333 conne

Re: [SLUG] Re: Help, please, with shell scripting for computing checksums

2000-08-09 Thread Roland Turner
Angus Lees wrote: > the problem with this (esp in this case) is that the command line is > quite likely to get too long, so you use xargs(1): > > find . -type f -print | xargs md5sum > md5.list I'd suggest a small improvement to this. When used as above, find puts newlines between filenames wh

Re: [SLUG] Linux -v- M$ Costs

2000-08-09 Thread Dave Fitch
Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 04:57:13PM +1000, Howard Lowndes uttered: > > Mail server. Does M$ need Win2K server and M$ Exchange server? > > Per-seat fees baby! Make sure you mention that and talk about costs if > they increase to, say, 15 clients. one of th

Re: [SLUG] Re: Debian equiviland of mmencode?

2000-08-09 Thread Dave Fitch
Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 04:59:10PM +1000, Rodos wrote: > > Two things are missing. One I can do without is basename. > > The other is mmencode which takes a file and base64 mime encodes it. This > > way you can create up your own mime message. > > a little less o

Re: [SLUG] Billy Boy is arriving

2000-08-09 Thread Jeff Waugh
> DaZZa wrote: > > A) He's not going to be here in person HH yes he will be. :) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.org.au/installfest/ http://linux.conf.au/ I am Jack's implicit trust of ActiveX &

RE: [SLUG] Who is looking for a JOB in a linux project

2000-08-09 Thread Ralph Steigrad
Thanks, good tip, just did it. Ralph -Original Message- From: Anand Kumria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2000 3:44 To: Ralph Steigrad Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Who is looking for a JOB in a linux project On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 03:12:15PM +1000,

[SLUG] UUCP Query

2000-08-09 Thread jasonb
Hi all, Are there any UUCP experts out there - and yes, uucp is still a very useful tool. I just can't find the bit of info I'm after in the doco... I have a number of machines running uucp for a reliable store-and-foreward file transfer mechanism: Macine A --- Machine B

[SLUG] Re: Debian equiviland of mmencode?

2000-08-09 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 04:59:10PM +1000, Rodos wrote: > Two things are missing. One I can do without is basename. storm:~> apt-cache search basename shellutils - The GNU shell programming utilities. > The other is mmencode which takes a file and base64 mime encodes it. This > way you can create