Re: [SLUG] Something wierd in pop

2000-09-14 Thread chesty
Interesting. Maybe your modem obeys the guard tone requirements on incoming, but not on outgoing traffic? I dunno. I think the +++ has to come from the DTE, thats why they used ping for the DOS, the echo reply normally contains a number of bytes from the "pay load" of the echo request.

Re: [SLUG] Singers Wanted (Seriously)

2000-09-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, to be honest, even Microsoft couldn't do much worse than this...:-) :P You've never heard Bill singing "Duke of URL" then. :) (I'm young enough to know that you're old enough to get that too!) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: [SLUG] Dumb email question

2000-09-14 Thread Graeme Merrall
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:50:05PM +1000, Doug Stalker wrote: I've just noticed that + seems to be a valid char in email addresses which is news to me :) ... but will it work with all mail programs? I seem to recall + being used to route messages between hosts: something like [EMAIL

Re: [SLUG] Dumb email question

2000-09-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
Graeme Merrall wrote: I was looking at the perennial email regex problem Thought it was that. :) Last time I did this, I googled and found a really good PCRE for it. You'll have to trust me on this one, or have a google yourself. I'm hideous at bookmarking useful things. :) - Jeff --

[SLUG] CD Wwiting and ide-scsi.o

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
Hi all, I recently got an IDE cd burner for my computer. Works nicely under windows, but not under linux yet. I was looking through the cd writing howto. I eventually figured out that i would require the sg, scsi and ide-scsi modules if i wanted to get it going becasue cd-record only works

Re: [SLUG] [OT] Blank 5.25 DSDD Floppies

2000-09-14 Thread Terry Collins
Kevin Pulo wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I might be able to buy some blank Double Sided, Double Density (DSDD) 5.25" (ie. 360Kb) Well, I managed to find 100 5.25" high density today if anyone wants them - $10 for courier and they are yours. Some new, some

FW: [SLUG] Quake3 on Linux?

2000-09-14 Thread John Wiltshire
Mailed to a different list. Got this response. From: Damian Bickhoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] John Wiltshire said: Can anyone help with this? [quake 3 tty dissociation problems] Use screen. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] Singers Wanted (Seriously)

2000-09-14 Thread James Wilkinson
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Jeff Waugh generated: I'm sure you're aware of the Free Software Song (the only recording I could find: URL: http://www.jwz.org/why-cooperation-with-rms-is-impossible.mp3) and the recent DeCSS song. I'm sure we can find a few more geeky tunes. Pulled straight from the asr

Re: [SLUG] Dumb email question

2000-09-14 Thread James Wilkinson
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Doug Stalker generated: ... but will it work with all mail programs? I seem to recall + being used to route messages between hosts: something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you're thinking of the 'percent-hack', [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- jamesw Usenet is essentially a HUGE

[SLUG] Email Server Questions

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
Hi all, Assuming this arrives,(sadly a dubious prospect seemingly) I'm getting jack of the rubbish that passes for tech support and mail serving through bigpond.com I've been losing incoming mail for days, and i've had enough. How hard is it to set a machine up as a secondary mail server ?

Re: [SLUG] Singers Wanted (Seriously)

2000-09-14 Thread Terry Collins
Jeff Waugh wrote: find: URL: http://www.jwz.org/why-cooperation-with-rms-is-impossible.mp3) Did anyone get this to download and play? If so, could you email it to me. None of my players actually produce anything. I think I've heard it anyway. It really is a sad inditement of the GNU/Linux mob

Re: [SLUG] Singers Wanted (Seriously)

2000-09-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
Terry Collins wrote: Did anyone get this to download and play? If so, could you email it to me. None of my players actually produce anything. I think I've heard it anyway. Just about to - here's hoping you don't get 15 of these to download. :) Sigh! for the good ole days of the

Re: [SLUG] Email Server Questions

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
As I understand it, you don't. You just set it up as a mail server that collects the mail and passes it onto the main later, or have your clients poll it as well. However, it still relies on bigpond, or whoever provides your MX records listing your secondary mail server in their nameserver

Re: [SLUG] Email Server Questions

2000-09-14 Thread James Wilkinson
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Terry Collins generated: Jason Rennie wrote: But how do i get sendmail to accept mail as a secondary mail server ? As I understand it, you don't. You just set it up as a mail server that collects the mail and passes it onto the main later, or have your clients poll it as

[SLUG] More Email Questions

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
Hi again, well i got the mail server to work without the help of bigpond (hurrah) just one concern of mine. How does one check if there mail server is an open relay ?? I dont think it is, but i need to check Jason -- GnuPG Key 2450EEDC Jason Rennie[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 1A2B

[SLUG] Xfest to be cancelled

2000-09-14 Thread Paris Paraskevopoulos
We have been unable to get an organiser for the Xfest, so we have assessed that the demand for an Xfest is low to none. Therefore the committee has decided to drop the XFest that was intended to be held on 18th October. If someone is interested in taking responsibility for organisation, but is

Re: [SLUG] More Email Questions

2000-09-14 Thread Thom May
quick way :- find your self a shell acount - www.hobbiton.org / www.freeshell.org if you don't have one. telnet my.mail.server 25 HELO hobbiton.org MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DATA this is some test data . --- the a.n.other.domain obv. shouldn't be yours ;-) if you

Re: [SLUG] More Email Questions

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
telnet my.mail.server 25 HELO hobbiton.org MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DATA this is some test data . Thank you very much for that, and i got a relayed denioed too. Hurrah :) Jason -- GnuPG Key 2450EEDC Jason Rennie[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 1A2B

[SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
Hi all, Due to some odd behavior with my adsl link, How do i set the mtu on network interfaces under win95 and winnt ? It was easy enough on linux, but windows is a mystery. Anybody know ? Jason -- GnuPG Key 2450EEDC Jason Rennie[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 1A2B 5E34 B45A 2871 A488

Re: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
Jason Rennie wrote: How do i set the mtu on network interfaces under win95 and winnt ? It was easy enough on linux, but windows is a mystery. I'm sorry sir, did you see the sign on the door? ;) ("So I took off my hat and said 'Imagine that! Me - working for you?'") There are a hundred

Re: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Thom May
http://www.wn.com.au/support/faq/connections/howcanispeedupthedatathroughputonmyconnection.htm No, i've not tried it - In all honesty, i had no fscking clue what an MTU was, so, i wandered off to whatis.com found out, and noticed the links at the bottom... HTH thom At some point around Thu, Sep

[SLUG] Broken sshd problem

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
Hi all, I set up ssh on a friends machine, and for reasons unknown it is now broken. when you login, using verbose mode you get the following [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: debug: Requesting compression at level 6. debug: Enabling compression at level 6. debug: Requesting pty. debug:

Re: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
No, i've not tried it - In all honesty, i had no fscking clue what an MTU was, so, i wandered off to whatis.com found out, and noticed the links at the bottom... This seems to be the crux of the problem. All of the utilities i've found want to change the dial-up-adapters mtu, not the mtu on

Re: [SLUG] More Email Questions

2000-09-14 Thread Ken Yap
Hi again, well i got the mail server to work without the help of bigpond (hurrah) just one concern of mine. How does one check if there mail server is an open relay ?? There is the simple method of telnetting from outside, but be aware that there is more than one way to relay, spammers have

Re: [SLUG] Broken sshd problem

2000-09-14 Thread Howard Lowndes
Is the sshd at bloodgod set to accept passwords? It may only be configured to do RSA authentication. -- Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Jason Rennie wrote: Hi all, I set up ssh on a

Re: [SLUG] More Email Questions

2000-09-14 Thread Jeffrey Borg
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Ken Yap wrote: Hi again, well i got the mail server to work without the help of bigpond (hurrah) just one concern of mine. How does one check if there mail server is an open relay ?? There is the simple method of telnetting from outside, but be aware that there

Re: [SLUG] Broken sshd problem

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
Is the sshd at bloodgod set to accept passwords? It may only be configured to do RSA authentication. Like this right ? # To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here! PasswordAuthentication yes PermitEmptyPasswords no # Uncomment to disable s/key passwords #SkeyAuthentication

Re: [SLUG] Broken sshd problem

2000-09-14 Thread Howard Lowndes
When you say telnet, I assume you mean the default port 23 which is not ssh. There is no reason why that shouldn't work if you have a telnet daemon running on the other end. You would also be able to telnet to port 22 (ssh), but you wouldn't get anywhere cos you wouldn't be able to do the

Re: [SLUG] Re: Basic CVS Usage

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Stokes
Stuart Cooper wrote: -P prunes empty directories. The warning you get is warning you that the file is currently being removed as part of the update. I see. Thanks. I can see how I'd draw that conclusion, because it's perfectly clear from the oh-so-instructive warning

[SLUG] Make Rules

2000-09-14 Thread Terry Collins
I'm trying to make bttv, but the make returns and error message of no /usr/src/linux/Rules.make. I'm on a SUSE 6.4 and can not FIND any Rule.* file. Does anyone have any ideas on how I get around this? -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} Ph(02) 4627 2186 Fax(02) 4628 7861 email: [EMAIL

Re: [SLUG] Re: Singers Wanted (Seriously)

2000-09-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
Stuart Cooper wrote: (based on a modal Bulgarian dance tune in the key of 7/4; this is certainly a song to appeal to the intellect and not to the ears) "The Girl from Ipanema" to infuriate his sister "Addicted to vi" after Robert Palmer "The GDB song" after Do-Re-Mi from the Sound of

Re: [SLUG] Re: Singers Wanted (Seriously)

2000-09-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
Jeff Waugh wrote: The RIAA Have the Boardroom in court You can hang out with all the boys Poetry != Rhyme. Sue me. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so

Re: [SLUG] Re: Singers Wanted (Seriously)

2000-09-14 Thread Tom Massey
Jeff Waugh wrote: Poetry != Rhyme. Sue me. Yes, but if (poetry = good) { angst; never return; } elsif (poetry = bad) { giggle = hysterically; return you crazy bastard, have you never heard of Derrida?; } elsif (poetry = by_jeff) { snort; snort_more; snort_aardvarks;

[SLUG] Re: Re: Basic CVS Usage

2000-09-14 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 11:46:18PM +1100, Jason Stokes wrote: Those misguided people complaining about Info format should type C-h i h in Emacs (I was going to say start Emacs first, but you all run Emacs already, right? :) and work through the tutorial and learn to use it and to love

[SLUG] No remote printing

2000-09-14 Thread erich
Hi all: I have two SuSE 6.4 machines, marge: no printer monty: nice brother laser and I want marge to print to the printer on monty, but I cannot get it working. I have set the remote que on marge as: lp|remote printer on monty:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\

Re: [SLUG] No remote printing

2000-09-14 Thread Terry Collins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and the message I get on marge from lpq is: marge: waiting for queue to be enabled on monty.private.emseng.com.au try "enable"ing the queue = enable lp -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} Ph(02) 4627 2186 Fax(02) 4628 7861 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www:

[SLUG] RAID and crash recovery

2000-09-14 Thread David Kempe
Hey Sluggers, After sharing the spirit and watching that little gas flame go by and some cool police Harleys, thought I might ask this question that has been buggin me. When using a hardware RAID 1 does it make alot of sense to mirror the /boot partition? I have got all the other partitions

Re: [SLUG] final shutdown

2000-09-14 Thread Howard Lowndes
Is it an ATX motherboard or an older AT mobo? Does it power down under Windows do you know? Do you have APM configured into the kernel (it should be config'd in by default in RH). Are you running the apmd daemon? OK, there's some things to check. -- Howard.

Re: [SLUG] Re: MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread enterfornone
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 07:45:34AM +1100, Angus Lees wrote: (before you do, ring up adsl tech support and try and get them to say "yes, its a bug. yes, we intend to fix it by this date") is there a prize for the first to get them to do it? -- enterfornone who once worked for BPA and knows

RE: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread John Wiltshire
From: Jason Rennie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi all, Due to some odd behavior with my adsl link, How do i set the mtu on network interfaces under win95 and winnt ? It was easy enough on linux, but windows is a mystery. Anybody know ? When looking for information on Windows, this URL is

Re: [SLUG] Re: MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
get the later rp-pppoe. it has a "-m" option to clamp outgoing mtu's. use it, it works. (before you do, ring up adsl tech support and try and get them to say "yes, its a bug. yes, we intend to fix it by this date") I did one better. I rang them and told them that http was really slow, and

[SLUG] LILO

2000-09-14 Thread marty
a friend just rang me up, his system boots but stops at 'LI' i have heard about this before but i couldn't remember what it means... please remind me how painfully sad my memory is... later marty "I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want because I'm me." - Corduroy,

RE: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
When looking for information on Windows, this URL is your friend http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp Thanks john, i finally found out late last night how to do it on win98, thanks for the tip on NT though,i hadn't found the way yet. BTW why would you have differnet mtu settings for

Re: [SLUG] No remote printing

2000-09-14 Thread Grahame M. Kelly
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: If you look at thw www.suse.com 6.4 support/updates you will see you need to de-grade back one to an older lpr-old rpm, or alternatively get the newer 7.0 version. Cheers, Grahame I have two SuSE 6.4 machines, marge: no printer monty: nice

Re: [SLUG] LILO

2000-09-14 Thread Conrad Parker
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 10:01:58AM +1100, marty wrote: a friend just rang me up, his system boots but stops at 'LI' i have heard about this before but i couldn't remember what it means... please remind me how painfully sad my memory is... $ grep -A3 "LI " /usr/doc/lilo-*/README usually

Re: [SLUG] LILO

2000-09-14 Thread Dean Hamstead
This occurs for lots of reasons. If your disk configuration has changed enough it will occur eg. the settings in your bios have changed you just need to run lilo again to set things straight again, you may need a emergency recovery disk or a single disk dist. Dean marty wrote: a friend

Re: [SLUG] LILO

2000-09-14 Thread Brett Esra
marty wrote: a friend just rang me up, his system boots but stops at 'LI' i have heard about this before but i couldn't remember what it means... please remind me how painfully sad my memory is... later marty "I can't buy what I want because it's free. Can't be what they want

Re: [SLUG] LILO

2000-09-14 Thread marty
This occurs for lots of reasons. If your disk configuration has changed enough it will occur eg. the settings in your bios have changed he had just done a reinstall... you just need to run lilo again to set things straight again, you may need a emergency recovery disk or a single disk

RE: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread John Wiltshire
From: Jason Rennie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] When looking for information on Windows, this URL is your friend http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp Thanks john, i finally found out late last night how to do it on win98, thanks for the tip on NT though,i hadn't found the way yet.

[SLUG] New for version freaks :)

2000-09-14 Thread Graeme Merrall
Just to let everyone know that a new version of Evolution has been released (0.5) which shoul dkeep us downloaders happy :) Also for NVidia users there is a new version of the NVidia X drivers out (0.95). These aren't as super new as Evolution but new enough. Changeog below. * Improve XFree86

Re: [SLUG] Re: MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
enterfornone wrote: On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 07:45:34AM +1100, Angus Lees wrote: (before you do, ring up adsl tech support and try and get them to say "yes, its a bug. yes, we intend to fix it by this date") is there a prize for the first to get them to do it? Two words: Telstra

SLUG PUB GRUB (was Re: [SLUG] Singers Wanted (Seriously))

2000-09-14 Thread Conrad Parker
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 07:34:23PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote: I think it is time to chuck the chinese after slug and retire to a pub. oath! we should remember to eat at some point though (says he who all too often forgets to eat ...). A pub with an open kitchen at that time of night would

Re: SLUG PUB GRUB (was Re: [SLUG] Singers Wanted (Seriously))

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
we should remember to eat at some point though (says he who all too often forgets to eat ...). A pub with an open kitchen at that time of night would be brilliant. Probably shouldn't be that hard to find after this month's meeting what with most places in the city open and serving food till

[SLUG] Remote Printing

2000-09-14 Thread erich
Hi all: I have two SuSE 6.4 machines, marge: no printer monty: nice brother laser and I want marge to print to the printer on monty, but I cannot get it working. I have set the remote que on marge as: lp|remote printer on monty:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: Basic CVS Usage

2000-09-14 Thread Ben Leslie
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Angus Lees wrote: snip which is going to be so very useful, when the next python license turns out to be incompatible with the GPL.. (see license for python 1.6) [insert anti- python / commercially sponsored competitions bigotry here] Not to start an off-topic flame

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: Basic CVS Usage

2000-09-14 Thread enterfornone
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 11:39:17AM +1100, Ben Leslie wrote: On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Angus Lees wrote: snip which is going to be so very useful, when the next python license turns out to be incompatible with the GPL.. (see license for python 1.6) [insert anti- python / commercially

Re: [SLUG] LILO

2000-09-14 Thread Peter Rundle
a friend just rang me up, his system boots but stops at 'LI' i have heard about this before but i couldn't remember what it means... please remind me how painfully sad my memory is... This usually happens when the boot directory is on a files system that exceeds the magic 1024 cylinders.

[SLUG] Mail Client

2000-09-14 Thread erich
Somebody was asking for decent mail clients, before. I have just come across xfmail, which came with SuSE 6.4. I have only just started using it, but it looks like it's worht a try. What I like about it is: Hierachial message folders Incoming message filtering I was using kmail,

Re: [SLUG] No remote printing

2000-09-14 Thread Terry Collins
"Grahame M. Kelly" wrote: On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: If you look at thw www.suse.com 6.4 support/updates you will see you need to de-grade back one to an older lpr-old rpm, or alternatively get the newer 7.0 version. I missed that problem, but then I use an Axis printserver (560)

Re: [SLUG] No remote printing

2000-09-14 Thread Grahame M. Kelly
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: Just out of curiosity, could you give us the full URL, because I didn't find anything on their web site. Hopefully I mught learn from it I looked but it has gone from the Tech Support DB and I don't think my memory is that bad because I had the exact same

Re: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Terry Collins
Do I see correctly? Have we just had a MS OS support question asked on SLUG list? And an answer given with a positive recommendation for MS support? Shit - time to start wearing a suit to Slug meetings if this is the case. When looking for information on Windows, this URL is your friend

Re: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
Terry Collins wrote: Shit - time to start wearing a suit to Slug meetings if this is the case. Might even leave the Tux tie at home too. *shiver* - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily,

RE: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread John Wiltshire
From: Terry Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Do I see correctly? Have we just had a MS OS support question asked on SLUG list? And an answer given with a positive recommendation for MS support? Shit - time to start wearing a suit to Slug meetings if this is the case. I should have mentioned

RE: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Jason Rennie
I dare you to ask the same quesion on a Visual Basic users list and see what response you get? Can you find me alist, i shall accept this challenge :) Jason -- GnuPG Key 2450EEDC Jason Rennie[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 1A2B 5E34 B45A 2871 A488 99C7 7579 5FFC 2450 EEDC -- SLUG -

Re: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Terry Collins
John Wiltshire wrote: ..snip... Besides, who better to ask technical questions of than a mob of Linux users. So you think crawling will fix it all {:-) (VBG) I know exactly how Jason felt - where can you find an MS support mob that is as good as SLUG. Hmm, perhaps we should negotiate here

RE: [SLUG] Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo prompt

2000-09-14 Thread Stephen Mills
1) be reminded that if a person has physical access to your linux machine, they can usually have full access to all information within a few mins with a boot floppy 2) you can set a password on the lilo prompt to prevent them from booting an image without the proper password, but rule 1 still

RE: [SLUG] RAID and crash recovery

2000-09-14 Thread Jill Rowling
Well, yes, you can just boot from a floppy if the machine has a floppy drive. The main thing about RAID 1 is that a hard disk crash whilst the machine is running does not get noticed by users. Suppose your system had to run in a remote site full of untrained people. In that case you might want to

Re: [SLUG] Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
Stephen Mills wrote: 1) be reminded that if a person has physical access to your linux machine, they can usually have full access to all information within a few mins with a boot floppy Not if you don't have a floppy drive! Throw away that legacy hardware people - do as Steve does. :) We

Re: [SLUG] Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo prompt

2000-09-14 Thread Howard Lowndes
Set a password in the /etc/lilo.conf and rerun lilo. Check out the lilo doco for details. -- Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Matt wrote: How might I disable this quick way of getting in

Re: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Mehmet Ozdemir
find the answers. Linux people at least tend not to have any pretense of being completely knowledgeable about a complex system and yet know all sorts of useful stuff about interoperability. I dare you to ask the same quesion on a Visual Basic users list and see what response you get?

RE: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Jill Rowling
Hmm - Terry in a suit. Scary. Mind you, me in a suit would be positively weird. Seriously though, we do need to be able to use a multitude of os's if we want to get things done with other people, especially if you want to remain on friendly terms with your not-so-linux-friendly collegues. I

[SLUG] Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:21:59PM +1000, Stephen Mills wrote: 1) be reminded that if a person has physical access to your linux machine, they can usually have full access to all information within a few mins with a boot floppy 2) you can set a password on the lilo prompt to prevent them

[SLUG] Linux Mandrake

2000-09-14 Thread Christine Whybrow
Hi, I've just installed Linux-Mandrake 7.1 on my new motherboard. The motherboard is a Intel D815EEA with inbuilt Sound and NIC. The processor is a Pentium III 733MHz, 133 MHz FSB with 128Mb RAM. I have three problems with the install. 1/ Sound. The sound is reported ( by Win 2000 ) as a

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: Basic CVS Usage

2000-09-14 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 12:12:23PM +1100, enterfornone wrote: On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 11:39:17AM +1100, Ben Leslie wrote: There are a lot of python utils distributed under the GPL. The theory is that a non-gpl compatable python makes thse illegal to distribute (a bit like the old KDE

RE: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread John Wiltshire
From: Mehmet Ozdemir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Well a Visual Basic Users list wouldn't be the best place to ask a windows networking question, kind of like asking a php question in a perl list Actually, kinda like asking a Windows networking question in a Linux users list. Except the average

RE: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Stephen Mills
something wrong with the list ? I seem to have got this message four times already. --Stephen -Original Message- From: Mehmet Ozdemir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] MTU and flamebait

Re: [SLUG] RAID and crash recovery

2000-09-14 Thread Doug Stalker
Jill Rowling wrote: Well, yes, you can just boot from a floppy if the machine has a floppy drive. The main thing about RAID 1 is that a hard disk crash whilst the machine is running does not get noticed by users. I just had a RAID 1 drive fail and lock the system - after rebuilding it was

Re: [SLUG] Linux Mandrake

2000-09-14 Thread Doug Stalker
Christine Whybrow wrote: Hi, I've just installed Linux-Mandrake 7.1 on my new motherboard. 1/ Sound. The sound is reported ( by Win 2000 ) as a Intel 82801BA/BAM AC '97 Audio Controller 2445. Linux seems completely unable to detect it! Have you tried runnig sndconfig? It's a redhat

Moving OT a bit [was] Re: [SLUG] Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linuxsingle' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Howard Lowndes
I did hear a rumour that RAM theft is a problem in corporate environments. Does anyone have any first hand experience of just how prevelent it might be. -- Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Fri, 15 Sep 2000,

[SLUG] Lost MBR Problems

2000-09-14 Thread Bill
Hi All, I've lost the MBR on my HDD containing both RedHat 6.2 and Mandrake 7.1 linux. Problem stems from fact that this HDD was my Primary Master IDE drive, and my Secondary Master had Win98 and BeOS PE ( as zip folder in Windows). Used Seagate's DiscWizard to try to restore MBR to Win HDD (

RE: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: [SLUG] Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Patrick Kelso
we have had numerous people stealing ram from machines, either sneakily replacing 128mb dimms with 64mb ones, or just taking ram left right and centre from every machine they can. Still working on ways to avoid this, as DELL cases are notoriously easyb to open, dont even need a screw driver, but

Re: [SLUG] No remote printing

2000-09-14 Thread erich
I have gone a bit further, by trying the older SuSE rpm, but still no cigar. Now if I restart the printer using lpc, the print job leaves marge, but does not print on monty, instead I get this in /var/log/messages: Sep 15 13:18:44 monty lpd[653]: readfile: : illegal path name: Bad file

Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: [SLUG] Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Terry Collins
Patrick Kelso wrote: we have had numerous people stealing ram from machines, either sneakily replacing 128mb dimms with 64mb ones, or just taking ram left right and centre from every machine they can. Still working on ways to avoid this, as DELL cases are notoriously easyb to open, dont

[SLUG] Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 02:15:07PM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: I did hear a rumour that RAM theft is a problem in corporate environments. Does anyone have any first hand experience of just how prevelent it might be. at uni, we had entire labs stripped of ram and the occasional processor,

[SLUG] Re: MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 02:04:28PM +1000, Stephen Mills wrote: something wrong with the list ? I seem to have got this message four times already. i wasn't really paying attention, but didn't another of mehmeto's posts do the same thing (earlier today / yesterday) ? -Original

[SLUG] Satire Microsoft Security Bulletin (MS00-666): SOS vulnerability

2000-09-14 Thread Aaron Binns
With Terry's comments on asking about Microsoft products on the SLUG list, combines with reading User Friendly too much and being on the Bugtraq (or is that MStraq) list.. I thought I might resurrect this piece of satire for your reading... erm.. enjoyment? It looks a lot like certain articles

Re: [SLUG] Re: MTU and flamebait

2000-09-14 Thread Mehmet Ozdemir
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:38:04 +1100 Angus Lees wrote: i wasn't really paying attention, but didn't another of mehmeto's posts do the same thing (earlier today / yesterday) ? Yeah, I think it's this mollymail.com service thats doing it :(, and by tell you this I going send another 3-4 msgs,

Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: [SLUG] Re: Proceedure for preventing'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Leon Strong
[root@penelope /root]# uptime 2:58pm up 483 days, 13:22, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 [root@penelope /root]# Linux penelope 2.0.36 #1 Tue Oct 13 22:17:11 EDT 1998 i586 unknown it's our printer server, does all our printing :) Techs here threaten anyone near it with certain

RE: [SLUG] Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Jill Rowling
This is getting way OT because I don't think anyone is running Linux on E250 hardware, but you _CAN_ disable STOP-A by turning the front panel switch to the run position and hiding the keyswitch. Regarding the PC RAM theft issue, I can only say YES has happened recently and YES you need physical

Re: [SLUG] Olympics on Optus@Home

2000-09-14 Thread David Sainty
Sluggers, Does anybody know of any sites that _do_ offer Real streaming video coverage of the Olympics, so us Linux users aren't "out of the loop"? Thanks for nothing Optus@Home. David S.. On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Andrew Macks wrote: Hmm, I am most baffled as to why Optus@Home have chosen to

[SLUG] Aureal Drivers

2000-09-14 Thread Dean Hamstead
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aureal/ Just incase people dont know these are based on the official drivers from aureal i dont think the originals were as bad as say... the original sblive drivers were, but open development is what makes unix great! (the chicks help also... *grin*) Dean

RE: [SLUG] RAID and crash recovery

2000-09-14 Thread Jill Rowling
Sounds awful. Just out of curiosity, did you put copies of the RAID database on multiple physical drives or on only one? - Jill. ___ Jill Rowling Snr Design Engineer Unix System Administrator Electronic Engineering Department, Aristocrat Technologies

RE: [SLUG] Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: Re: Proceedure for preve nting 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread John Wiltshire
From: Jill Rowling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Regarding the PC RAM theft issue, I can only say YES has happened recently and YES you need physical security. It's not going to go away. Physical security is a necessity for many things, including theft. Remember if people can open the case,

[SLUG] Re: Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: Re: Proceedure for preve nting 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 03:16:55PM +1100, Jill Rowling wrote: This is getting way OT because I don't think anyone is running Linux on E250 hardware, but you _CAN_ disable STOP-A by turning the front panel switch to the run position and hiding the keyswitch. are all keys for all (matching

Re: [SLUG] Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Dean Hamstead
An interesting way ive seen tampering being prevented (although somewhat extreme) was in mp3 (licensed mp3s) jukebox's. Although running windows, if the cases werent opened right the hdd would fry out. Preventing 20 gigs of licensed material from theft Now if you really cared, i guess you could

email redirection (was Re: [SLUG] Re: MTU and flamebait)

2000-09-14 Thread Dave Fitch
Mehmet Ozdemir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I think it's this mollymail.com service thats doing it :(, and by tell you this I going send another 3-4 msgs, I think I will divert slug msgs to my mbox.com.au acct just moving/changing the topic even further... what's a good email redirection service?

RE: [SLUG] Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Patrick Kelso
what about the old honeywell ball less mouse, it used to sensor pads, im sure they are still aound, that is what my old school usd. although, just curious, what the hell is the point of stealng a mouse ball? Patrick -Original Message- From: Dean Hamstead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: [SLUG] Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Dave Fitch
Dean Hamstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ideally we could use optical mice but i have seen any at a decent price, and they would have to be padless (eg. intelimice) or the pads would surely go missing. but at least you could nail (or glue) the mouse pads down. Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux

RE: [SLUG] Re: Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: Re: Proceedure for preve nting 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Jill Rowling
'Course they all match, at least over the model range :) Just like a famous model of car I heard about then again if you leave your E250 parked where everyone can stop-A it then I guess you get what you asked for. Actually if it wasn't real busy you should be able to get it back with a "go".

Re: [SLUG] Re: Moving OT a bit [was] Re: Re: Proceedure for preventing 'linux single' at lilo promp t

2000-09-14 Thread Dean Hamstead
Because you can i think... Dean Patrick Kelso wrote: what about the old honeywell ball less mouse, it used to sensor pads, im sure they are still aound, that is what my old school usd. although, just curious, what the hell is the point of stealng a mouse ball? Patrick

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