Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-27 Thread Graham Leggett
Edgar P Dollin wrote: 1) It is fine that the basic tags in struts don't emit non-standard html, but why do struts tags have to 'police' the emission of non-html. For many intranet style projects, non standard html is important to achieve specific required functionality. To deny the need for such

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-26 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
to see a more detailed description of what you're thinking about to know whether it would fit in, but I assume you're talking about something more than the "disabled" and "readonly" attributes that already exist? Edgar Craig -Original Message-

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-26 Thread Ted Husted
In the beginning, there was no Jakarta Taglibs, or inkling of something like JSTL. So, Craig bravely put together a useful implementation of some custom tags that did two things. First, they exposed the internals of the Struts Controller framework. Second, they provided some basic functionality

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-26 Thread Sgarlata Matt
- Original Message - From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:02 AM Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > > --- Robert Leland <[EMAIL

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-26 Thread Ted Husted
Sgarlata Matt wrote: Of course if I really want that I should probably just use Velocity, huh? ;) +1. I do =:) -Ted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-26 Thread David Graham
--- Sgarlata Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 7:52 PM > Subject: Re: Editable Fields

RE: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-26 Thread David Graham
k to support. Ted has mentioned something similar to this before. David > > Edgar > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:07 PM > > To: Struts Developers List > > Subject: Re: Edi

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-26 Thread Sgarlata Matt
- Original Message - From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > > However, at this time, we have a Struts-el tag

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-26 Thread David Graham
--- Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Gastin wrote: > > As I can tell from the list I have opened topic that is pretty well > > beaten. Let me first apologize. I did not realize this was such a > > political topic in the Struts community. > > There was a time when we were encourag

RE: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-26 Thread Edgar P Dollin
> From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:07 PM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > > > David Graham wrote: > > There are 3 things that earn my -1 on tag enhancements: > > 1. Fun

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-26 Thread Ted Husted
David Graham wrote: There are 3 things that earn my -1 on tag enhancements: 1. Functionality already provided by the JSTL. Just as an aside, I believe by -1 David means that he won't volunteer his own time to the issue. As a volunteer, this is his absolute right. But, since the Struts minimum pl

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-26 Thread Ted Husted
Chris Gastin wrote: > As I can tell from the list I have opened topic that is pretty well > beaten. Let me first apologize. I did not realize this was such a > political topic in the Struts community. There was a time when we were encouraging people to use the JSTL, and there was a political bent

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread David Graham
--- Robert Leland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Graham wrote: > > >--- Sgarlata Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>OK, here's another idea. I searched the archives for it and couldn't > >>find > >>it. > >> > >>How about two simple changes: > >>1) Add a new renderExtraAttributes()

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread David Graham
ham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:39 PM > Subject: RE: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > > > > > > --- Edgar P Dollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > &

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Robert Leland
Chris Gastin wrote: Rob: I am not an contributer, but I am a young developer. I am willing to step up and support these abilities in the struts tags Great ! I have come to believe that young/single developers & older/grown kids/empty nesters developers are better situated to be Open Source dev

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Chris Gastin
nt: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > David Graham wrote: > > >--- Sgarlata Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>OK, here's another idea. I searched the archives for it and could

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Robert Leland
David Graham wrote: --- Sgarlata Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, here's another idea. I searched the archives for it and couldn't find it. How about two simple changes: 1) Add a new renderExtraAttributes() method that gives people the chance to throw non-standard HTML into their tags that

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Niall Pemberton
Sounds good. I'll put some thought into it. Niall - Original Message - From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:09 AM Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static T

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Don Brown
ut loose from struts and a > > > different group of committers were responsible for them. I wouldn't, > > > nor > > > would I expect anyone else interested in the tags to make any time > > > commitment with the current 'RULES' placed on the tags, i.e. ONLY emit &

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Chris Gastin
m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:39 PM Subject: RE: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > > --- Edgar P Dollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it is more than a 'prefere

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread David Graham
rs functionality not provided by the JSTL; however, if other tags need refactoring I'm willing to work on those as well. Does this sound reasonable? David > > Niall > > - Original Message - > From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread David Graham
advance if this has been discussed before. ([OT] I > really > wish there was an easier way to search the archives. I have resorted to > googling them, but it's still a pain.) > > Matt > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Leland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Sgarlata Matt
to googling them, but it's still a pain.) Matt - Original Message - From: "Robert Leland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text >

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Sgarlata Matt
to googling them, but it's still a pain.) Matt - Original Message - From: "Robert Leland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text >

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Niall Pemberton
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:39 PM Subject: RE: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > Whenever tag extendability enhancements are discussed, we always hear > complaints from a vocal minority but

RE: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread David Graham
n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:23 PM > > To: Struts Developers List > > Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > > > > > > It's only a "political football" in the sense that most of > > the curr

RE: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Edgar P Dollin
lanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:23 PM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > > > It's only a "political football" in the sense that most of > the current > committers would prefer

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Edgar P Dollin wrote: If the tags were structured differently so they were easier to extend without breaking when new releases of struts come out these issues might not come up. Of course, I myself have resigned myself to this issue since the tags are such a political football on this list. Edgar

Forking Struts taglibs[ was Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text]

2003-09-25 Thread Robert Leland
Edgar P Dollin wrote: If the tags were structured differently so they were easier to extend without breaking when new releases of struts come out these issues might not come up. Of course, I myself have resigned myself to this issue since the tags are such a political football on this list. Edgar

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Robert Leland
David Graham wrote: --- Robert Leland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, This has been brought up many times over the last 3 years, and probably has been implemented several times extending the Struts tags. I am not opposed to such a feature, and would support it, though other committers might not

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread David Graham
--- Robert Leland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, This has been brought up many times over the last 3 years, > and probably has been implemented several times extending the Struts > tags. > > I am not opposed to such a feature, and would support it, > though other committers might not. > > The

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread David Graham
D]> > To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:23 PM > Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > > > > Yes, This has been brought up many times over the last 3 years, > > and probably has been implem

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Robert Leland
Sgarlata Matt wrote: Has anyone ever discussed adding a general-purpose "attributes" attribute to the tag library to support non-standard HTML like this? For example, Yes, it was vetoed by several committers. Search the archives. --

RE: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Edgar P Dollin
nal Message- > From: Robert Leland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:23 PM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > > > Yes, This has been brought up many times over the last 3 > years, and probably h

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Sgarlata Matt
t... Matt - Original Message - From: "Robert Leland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text > Yes, This has been brought up many times o

Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-25 Thread Robert Leland
Yes, This has been brought up many times over the last 3 years, and probably has been implemented several times extending the Struts tags. I am not opposed to such a feature, and would support it, though other committers might not. The key argument against it is that it would transform the html tag

RE: Editable Fields V/S Static Text

2003-09-24 Thread Edgar P Dollin
You could use a JSP expression to output the readonly='true' attribute of the html:text or use the html-el library and use jstl to evaluate the attribute. Edgar > -Original Message- > From: Chris Gastin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:29 AM > To: [EMAIL