Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Ed Mullen
Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: So what is Googel going to do with your association members' names? Steal their bank accounts? If Google owns and knows the captcha database, then it will be easy to bypass the captcha

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Ed Mullen
Phillip Jones wrote: Lucas Levrel wrote: ---snip--- Do you think Google and others don't honor them? A resounding YES!! Google does honor them. I was considering a Captcha software to put on Web page on a website for an association, I found out that

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Ed Mullen wrote: The forms scripts I use that happen to use a captcha technique cannot be accessed by anyone but a human being who can read and type. Maybe one day someone will build a piece of sw that can read a jumblepd-up bunch of pixels and correctly respond to them but it isn't possible

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Headfrog
On Sep 15, 5:17 pm, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: The Mozilla community discovered a crash some of our users have been seeing at startup after updates to our previous releases. To fix that issue, SeaMonkey 2.0.8 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free download

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Jay Garcia
On 22.09.2010 22:43, Phillip Jones wrote: --- Original Message --- using a Captcha does the same thing as using a username and password without the need for such and until Google bought the leading captcha software developer, It was as secure as having a user name and password. No it does

Re: compact folder

2010-09-23 Thread Ray_Net
Daniel Barclay wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: if the folder is re-created uncompacted - there is not an easy way to recover an old message ... These SM folders are actually files that can be opened with a text editor. ... you can then search the file contents for something

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Terry R.
On 9/23/2010 4:31 AM On a whim, Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard It's very obvious Phillip knows not of what he speaks, and he should stop spreading FUD. I know that, without DreamWeaver, Phillip would not even be able to *have* a web site online. Geez. Do you feel good

Re: compact folder

2010-09-23 Thread Daniel Barclay
Ray_Net wrote: Daniel Barclay wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: if the folder is re-created uncompacted - there is not an easy way to recover an old message ... These SM folders are actually files that can be opened with a text editor. ... you can then search the file

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Terry R. wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard It's very obvious Phillip knows not of what he speaks, and he should stop spreading FUD. I know that, without DreamWeaver, Phillip would not even be able to *have* a web site online. Geez. Do you feel good about yourself

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Phillip Jones
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: So what is Googel going to do with your association members' names? Steal their bank accounts? If Google owns and knows the captcha database, then it

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Ed Mullen
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: The forms scripts I use that happen to use a captcha technique cannot be accessed by anyone but a human being who can read and type. Maybe one day someone will build a piece of sw that can read a jumblepd-up bunch of pixels and correctly respond

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Phillip Jones
Jay Garcia wrote: On 22.09.2010 22:43, Phillip Jones wrote: --- Original Message --- using a Captcha does the same thing as using a username and password without the need for such and until Google bought the leading captcha software developer, It was as secure as having a user name and

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Chris Ilias
On 10-09-23 8:14 AM, Headfrog wrote: Ever since I upgraded to 2.0.8, it has crashed totally four or five times every morning. Then it seems stable for the remainder of the day In SeaMonke, go to the address about:crashes (without the quotes) and tell us your latest crash IDs. We can then

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: [let's do some snipping here...] using a Captcha does the same thing as using a username and password without the need for such and until Google bought the leading captcha software developer, It was as secure as having

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Phillip Jones
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Terry R. wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard It's very obvious Phillip knows not of what he speaks, and he should stop spreading FUD. I know that, without DreamWeaver, Phillip would not even be able to *have* a web site online. Geez. Do

Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-23 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user). When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Jay Garcia
On 23.09.2010 11:31, Phillip Jones wrote: --- Original Message --- If it doesn't do what I need then I will figure out how to add User-name/Password. But how does the User, the one that adds the private content get into a password protected to change the content when needed. It would be

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Ed Mullen
Phillip Jones wrote: If it doesn't do what I need then I will figure out how to add User-name/Password. But how does the User, the one that adds the private content get into a password protected to change the content when needed. 1. User goes to URL of main site 2. User enters Username and

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Jay Garcia
On 23.09.2010 11:47, Ed Mullen wrote: --- Original Message --- Phillip Jones wrote: If it doesn't do what I need then I will figure out how to add User-name/Password. But how does the User, the one that adds the private content get into a password protected to change the content when

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Ed Mullen
Phillip Jones wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 22.09.2010 22:43, Phillip Jones wrote: --- Original Message --- using a Captcha does the same thing as using a username and password without the need for such and until Google bought the leading captcha software developer, It was as secure as having

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Ed Mullen
Jay Garcia wrote: On 23.09.2010 11:47, Ed Mullen wrote: --- Original Message --- Phillip Jones wrote: If it doesn't do what I need then I will figure out how to add User-name/Password. But how does the User, the one that adds the private content get into a password protected to change the

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread W3BNR
On 9/23/2010 12:31 PM Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Terry R. wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard It's very obvious Phillip knows not of what he speaks, and he should stop spreading FUD. I know that, without DreamWeaver, Phillip would not even be

Re: ZoomText and SeaMonkey

2010-09-23 Thread Beverly Howard
Your Operating System Windows XP Services Pack 3 Your Monitor size 21 inches Your Video settings (pixel size) 800 X 600 Seamonkey version 2.0.8 my preferred screen magnification is 10X thanks... that clarifies your need. It would help to get the ruler size height of a

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Terry R.
On 9/23/2010 9:14 AM On a whim, Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard It's very obvious Phillip knows not of what he speaks, and he should stop spreading FUD. I know that, without DreamWeaver, Phillip would

Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-23 Thread Beverly Howard
It's probably not a good idea to do that. While that would be a consideration if SM were still in use and accessible, since SM is dead in the water there is no reason not to kill the process if there has been an interval since it was used. fwiw, I have needed to kill SM in taskmanger for

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robert Kaiser wrote: The Mozilla community discovered a crash some of our users have been seeing at startup after updates to our previous releases. To fix that issue, SeaMonkey 2.0.8 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free download from www.seamonkey-project.org. I was never

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Phillip Jones
W3BNR wrote: On 9/23/2010 12:31 PM Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Terry R. wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard It's very obvious Phillip knows not of what he speaks, and he should stop spreading FUD. I know that, without DreamWeaver, Phillip would

Re: Cannot send except at home

2010-09-23 Thread d...@kd4e.com
If you want help, you need to post some details about about the accounts that are not working, and both the incoming and outgoing server settings. Then maybe you can get some specific advice. Lee Incoming E-mail is not relevant as it is working from non-home Wifi connections for all 3

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Phillip Jones
Ed Mullen wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 23.09.2010 11:47, Ed Mullen wrote: --- Original Message --- Phillip Jones wrote: If it doesn't do what I need then I will figure out how to add User-name/Password. But how does the User, the one that adds the private content get into a password

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Phillip Jones
Jay Garcia wrote: On 23.09.2010 11:31, Phillip Jones wrote: --- Original Message --- If it doesn't do what I need then I will figure out how to add User-name/Password. But how does the User, the one that adds the private content get into a password protected to change the content when

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Phillip Jones
Ed Mullen wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: If it doesn't do what I need then I will figure out how to add User-name/Password. But how does the User, the one that adds the private content get into a password protected to change the content when needed. 1. User goes to URL of main site 2. User

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Ed Mullen
Phillip Jones wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 23.09.2010 11:47, Ed Mullen wrote: --- Original Message --- Phillip Jones wrote: If it doesn't do what I need then I will figure out how to add User-name/Password. But how does the User, the one that adds the private content get

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Phillip Jones
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: [let's do some snipping here...] using a Captcha does the same thing as using a username and password without the need for such and until Google bought the leading captcha software

Re: Cannot send except at home

2010-09-23 Thread S. Beaulieu
d...@kd4e.com a écrit : The 3 different E-mail accounts are hosted on 3 different servers by 3 different providers (my ISP, GoDaddy, and a small company). I also have on my laptop three email accounts hosted on three servers. The thing is, in all cases, the SMTP account is the same one: the

Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user). When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Phillip Jones
Ed Mullen wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 23.09.2010 11:47, Ed Mullen wrote: --- Original Message --- Phillip Jones wrote: If it doesn't do what I need then I will figure out how to add User-name/Password. But how does the User, the one that adds the

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Phillip Jones
Terry R. wrote: On 9/23/2010 9:14 AM On a whim, Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard It's very obvious Phillip knows not of what he speaks, and he should stop spreading FUD. I know that, without DreamWeaver,

Re: Address book combine?

2010-09-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Beverly Howard wrote: hack Curious... what's the hack? Export the data, read with perl, eliminate true dups, combine matching (name and email or name and phone) entries with no non-matching entries, flag conflicts, output in abook format. By combining I catch the case where a dup because

Re: compact folder

2010-09-23 Thread Ray_Net
Daniel Barclay wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Daniel Barclay wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: if the folder is re-created uncompacted - there is not an easy way to recover an old message ... These SM folders are actually files that can be opened with a text editor. ... you can then

Re: Cannot send except at home

2010-09-23 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
d...@kd4e.com wrote: There are *3 separate Outgoing E-mail servers* involved here. My ISP is relevant to only 1 of them. The other two E-mail servers are GoDaddy and a third company. I cannot conceive of any way that my ISP's settings are relevant to Outgoing E-mail on the other 2 E-mail

Re: Cannot send except at home

2010-09-23 Thread d...@kd4e.com
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: This still sounds like the problem I described earlier in this thread. If your home ISP is indifferent as to which SMTP server you use, all will work. If your road ISP requires you to use their SMTP server, then any mail sent to any SMTP server other than theirs will be

Extension Update Available

2010-09-23 Thread David E. Ross
On launching SeaMonkey, I saw a popup informing me that an update to one of my installed add-ons is now available. The message did not say which of 8 add-ons has the update. I consider the failure to identify which add-on has a new update to be a serious problem. I went to the Web sites of all

Re: Extension Update Available

2010-09-23 Thread Glen
David E. Ross wrote: On launching SeaMonkey, I saw a popup informing me that an update to one of my installed add-ons is now available. The message did not say which of 8 add-ons has the update. I consider the failure to identify which add-on has a new update to be a serious problem. I went

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Ed Mullen
Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: [let's do some snipping here...] using a Captcha does the same thing as using a username and password without the need for such and until Google bought the leading

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-23 Thread Ed Mullen
Phillip Jones wrote: Terry R. wrote: On 9/23/2010 9:14 AM On a whim, Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard It's very obvious Phillip knows not of what he speaks, and he should stop spreading FUD. I know that,

New Add-ons Manager (was: Extension Update Available)

2010-09-23 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/23/10 5:11 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On launching SeaMonkey, I saw a popup informing me that an update to one of my installed add-ons is now available. The message did not say which of 8 add-ons has the update. I consider the failure to identify which add-on has a new update to be a