Dear /.
I for one have been making quality biodiesel for many months now and use it
in my boat,car and house generator. The knowledge to do this has come from
this site which provides a wide range of support for the myriad of technical
difficulties that arise.
Try to be constuctive in your crit
Martin,
I mean increase the initial vinegar during the initial wash stage.
I found that I got crme during wash. Much of it settled out but end result
was lower BD yield. Increasing the acid/water ratio and lowering agitation
helped to increase BD yield.
Hope this helps.
Mike
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Martin,
I found that the addition of 'MUCH' more vinegar with LOW agitation helped
improve the return considerably. Be patient!!
Mike
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My attempts at acquiring large volumes of used veggie oil from single
sources has not as yet reached fruition. All the promises and best
intentions of some of these large companies seem to fall away when it comes
to making decisions to CHANGE even if its for the better.
The results of t
rst, then go with what works.
>
> Make sure you dilute your acid down to about 12-15%. Working with higher
> percents won't offer any better results in the long run.
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> Todd
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Thanks Alex.
Do you think that backsplitting could be one of the problems? Or just excess
lye ( I used 3.5g/l)
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> From: Aleksander Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:29 AM
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [biofuel] Re: Washing the
Thanks for your info. It seems to me that the return after the wash should
not loose more than a few percent of the esters. A 60% return seems low and
adds to the cost significantly. I'm playing around with reducing lye and
the reaction time for first stage.
Please let me know if you come up w
I'm struggling with the washing of the biodiesel. I get a low return (50%)
and a lot of creamy mayonnaise.
During the processing I get a good glycerin drop (15%) using Foolproof on
used veggie oil. Everything looks good until the wash when I add the
vinegar and water to the biodiesel start the
There are a variety of ways to produce hydrogen. Although the fundamental
energy equations still apply, energy can be obtained from as you say
hydroelectric, solar, geothermal, and algae. I think Iceland is big on
this.
Also compression isn't the only way to store the hydrogen. THEY'RE using
h
Sure!! $250.00/metric ton (RSA)
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>
> Does anyone know where to get a price of bulk fish oil.
> Is it not one of
Are you saying that there is no substantial difference in processing fish
oil versus the other types ( veggie and lard )?
My supply of oil is dark brown and liquid. It comes from the sludge at the
bottom of fish oil container tanks(no water). There are no solids in it. I
have not noticed any co
Has anyone used fish oils for the production of biodiesel?
Would the standard procedures work or does fish oil present a problem?
Mike
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I pay the equivalent of US$2.00 for 99% methanol here in South Africa.
Keep searching...
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Here in Cape Town. I double checked and 95% ethanol sells at $.60 liter and
99% methanol sells at a similar price.
Still haven't reached the big suppliers yet, though.
Mike
> Here where? Joe
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> >Funny, I've priced 200% ethanol here at around $.80 liter.
>
> >What gives? I better double
I'm
not the expert but, from my limited experience and readings, it appears that the
conversion of different oils into biodiesel is similar in percentage return and
performance. I say similar because there certainly are variations but I
doubt they amount to more than 20%. I would go with t
I know that it is a solid at room temperature. I believe it is similar to
vegetable shortening.
There is such an animal as partially hydrogenated oil, although I don't know
its characteristics.
Mike
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Funny, I've priced 200% ethanol here at around $.80 liter.
What gives? I better double check my sources.
Mike
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> From: Ken Provost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:23 PM
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> Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol vs. Metha
Well,
I think that the ethanol people would be the moonshine makers, whereas the
Biodiesel people would obviously be the more highly cultivated?
Really, though, now that we know that ethanol is available why are we
bothering with methanol? I find myself learning with methanol and then
having to
Does anybody have any experience with the processing of Hydrogenated Oils?
OK, how about knowledge?
OKOK! References?
I'm interested in any processing or performance information.
Much appreciated
Mike
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Kevin,
This process does work. So, I still believe that there was something wrong
with your procedure.
Its probably best to try again in a one liter bottle. Else, you could
detail out your procedure exactly, again, step by step. For instance, after
how long after you mixed the sulphuric acid di
No I don't think the extra ten minutes would be damaging. What was your
concentration of NaOH in the methoxide and how much did you add in ml on
each dosing?
Mike
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According to the formula, you should be adding half the methoxide after you
have mixed in the sulphuric acid.
Heat and stir the mixture after adding sulphuric acid for 50 min then stop
heating let mix for 1.5 to 2 hours. Then add half of the methoxide mix for
5 min then let settle overnight. I
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> In a message dated 5/30/01 12:56:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Hey
Pedro,
What
does 'impugned' mean?
Mike
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Can I answer to this question, at least for Spain ??. D
eric,
Do yourself a favour and start with a small amount like one liter in a clear
bottle.
It's really much easier like this.
You can find methanol and lye (NaOH) at any chemical supply store.
Mike
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Dale,
Isn't there any loss of methanol during reaction? I am surprised that you
are recovering all that you use. Or did I mis-understand you?
Mike
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I have a couple of cents to add to this:
As I understand some of it, one of the big problems with global warming is
the increase in fresh water into the oceans from increased rainfall and the
melting of the polar ice caps. The network of currents in the oceans have a
great effect on climate. Th
I think it would be better to market B20 as the real problem is public
awareness, as I see it. You can achieve a broader distribution with fewer
problems. Its also fully certified. But anyway, like Keith says:
'strength to your arm'.
Mike
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I have heard that much of the used veggie oil is being added to feedstock
direct. Aside from the low nutritional value, what are your thoughts on
this?
Mike
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To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
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That will work well with fuel cells.
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The article in Popular Science is actually rather short and does
Here, here Bob,
I've been thinking about this for a while now ( I like the idea of algae
farms ). Can you, perhaps refer me to more information. You know, which
are the best to use, conditions of growing etc..
Mike
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Keith,
Nice to hear that you're from around the corner. I live in Hout Bay and know
your travel route well. Just about one of the most breath-taking ways of
driving to work.
Sea Point is still much the same but Noordhoek has grown. It has its own
Mcdonalds. Although Long Beach is still pristi
Keith,
How about getting rid of this thing?
Mike
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To Whom This May Concern,
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Ola,
I got some good information from the following link:
http://www.cytoculture.com/Biodiesel%20Handbook.htm#Lower%20Hydrocarbon%20Em
Mike
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Todd,
Thats the whole thing. Nobody wants to remove it. In this country, used
cooking oil is maybe reprocessed and sold to the lower income groups. ( I
know, there should be a law ) Anyway, these guys won't accept used
hydrogenated oil -- too foreign to them.
I feel like I'm in the butter!!
Todd,
It turns out that I have located a source for good quantities of used
hydrogenated vegetable oil.
Before I enter into any negotiations I wonder whether this type of oil will
prove difficult to convert into biodiesal.
Any thoughts on this?
Mike
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Dear Todd,
Excellent reference!!! It addresses many of the topics to satisfy my
curiosity, etc...
Here is Cape Town, we only have about 1000 fish and chip shops in the area.
A couple of dozen fish processing plants and much more. Fish oil?
I have completed my first biodiesal setup and tested.
Dear Todd,
Thanks for your information. Hydrogenation sounds interesting but first
things first.
I live next to a fishing harbour which probably consumes a few million
liters of diesal monthly.
If I want to have an impact on this I need to be able to tell people
straight what they gonna get or
Todd,
Is my thinking correct?:
If the energy content of most biodiesals is between 35 and 40 Mj/kg
(Terry
4/27)
Lowest heat of combustion is canola methyl ester at 39.9 Mj/kg
Highest is rape at 40.54 Mj/kg
The rest are in between
D2 is 45.42 Mj/kg
David,
Just wanted to thank you for the info. Very useful!
Mike
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From: David Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mike,
Try the folowing: www.gardn
Dear Todd,
Thanks for your comprehensive response. I almost understand you!! So, it
doesn't really make a difference which veggy oil one uses. The net result
will be, basically, the same.
Is there a direct correlation (linear) between energy content and
performance?
Please define 'coking po
Is there any difference in energy content between, for instance, one liter
of sunflower biodiesal and one liter of palm-oil biodiesal? In other words,
is there a better performance in km/liter for the better oil?
Mike
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#x27;ve started making biodiesal for her use. Thanks to you people
out there.
Second question: Is there any difference in energy content between, for
instance, one liter of sunflower biodiesal and one liter of palm oil
biodiesal? In other words, is there a better performance in km/liter for
the be
I vote for letting people say what they want to say. Besides, it only takes
me ten minutes a day to go thru it all. Its called a delete button.
Point noted, though!!!
Mike
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