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From: "janandjoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:50 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
> I am currently experimenting with adapting copper cylinders which are
heated
> via a coil using solar
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From: "janandjoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:50 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
> I am currently experimenting with adapting copper cylinders which are
seem to be
scope for its less problematic use at the heating stage..
Jan
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From: randallbarron1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 February 2002 14:42
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
Okay, so solar stills are available, but do not
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Juan Boveda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Moti, just to add an idea to get cheaper vacuum, to use the gravity
not
> only a big vacuum pump.
>
> In industry, to keep under vacuum something the usual way is to use
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> 11.5 meter tall cylinder full of slow running w
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capacity, I add a kind of drawing, hope it goes fine.
Best regards
Juan
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De: motie_d <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A: bio
uary 11, 2002 12:37 AM
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
>
> > > As long as you are using a propane tank in the system. Have you
> > > considered using a larger tank. Using the air comnpressor draw a
> > > vacu
> From: "Randall & Shelley Barron" >
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:14
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
>
>
> > You could use a Carbon dioxide scrubber to remove the CO2 and then
> still
> > be able to use a vacuum for distillation.
> &
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Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
> > As long as you are using a propane tank in the system. Have you
> > considered using a larger tank. Using the air comnpressor draw a
> > vacuum onto the tank and then use it as a stored energy source.
A
> > typical
motie, a cold trap between the vacuum pump and the
ethanol source should solve the problem of pump
lubrication. adding an oil trap before the pump would
also be advisable.imho.
regards,roger
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "cornfed62" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As long as this is
> > As long as you are using a propane tank in the system. Have you
> > considered using a larger tank. Using the air comnpressor draw a
> > vacuum onto the tank and then use it as a stored energy source.
A
> > typical thousand gallon service propane tank with special
plumbing
> > and val
Monday, 11 February 2002 3:05
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Randall & Shelley Barron" >
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:14
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
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>
> > You co
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Regards
John
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From: "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2002 3:05
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
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> - Original Message
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "cornfed62" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As long as this is still in the theory stage: Remember that
ethanol
> is an excellant cleaning solvent. You will need to pay extra
special
> attention to your 2 cylinder compressor to make sure the essential
> mechanical par
- Original Message -
From: "Randall & Shelley Barron" >
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:14
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
> You could use a Carbon dioxide scrubber to remove the CO2 and then still
> be able to use a vacuum for distillation.
You could use a Carbon dioxide scrubber to remove the CO2 and then still
be able to use a vacuum for distillation.
The House of Jade wrote:
> Well, you are now talking about vacuum fermentation for which there
> is a
> patented process. Stripping off ethanol as it is produced solves one
> probl
As long as this is still in the theory stage: Remember that ethanol
is an excellant cleaning solvent. You will need to pay extra special
attention to your 2 cylinder compressor to make sure the essential
mechanical parts are still being oiled. The ethanol vapor will tend
to wash the cylinde
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Are you pumping the liquid solution, or
> just the vapors?
>
> Just the vapor is moving across. You have space over the liquid and
the
> "air" is connected to a cold space that is lower so the cold air is
stable.
> As the alcohol be
Well, you are now talking about vacuum fermentation for which there is a
patented process. Stripping off ethanol as it is produced solves one problem
but the problem is that the vacuum system must deal with the massive amounts
of carbon dioxide being generated by the fermentation process; so va
>there are turbo yeasts available that will withstand
>20%+. with sufficent vacuum you can boil water at
>room temp. i would question whether the yeast's ability
>to propagate (and therefore produce ethanol)would
>be affected by a low vacuum.i think that you are
>pursuing an interesting avenue of
Friday, February 08, 2002 7:55 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
I'll interpose my thoughts into the body of your message.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The relationship of pressure to yeast viability is
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> motie, fermentation temps. should not exceed 25C(77F).
> i am still trying to look thru my info to find the vacuum
> required to distill off ethanol at say 68-72F.
> roger
Thanks. That would much simplify the process, if it can be don
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "rwe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Motie,
> Have you done any work on making the residue from the still fit for
human
> consumption?
> By
> Raw
Not yet, but it may 'accidently' occur occasionaly. I may have to
further purify a small sample occasionally for 'lab tests'!
I'll interpose my thoughts into the body of your message.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The relationship of pressure to yeast viability is an unknown to me
but if
> the liquid column is deep enough that should establish a viability
zone and
> a piece of filter (
motie, fermentation temps. should not exceed 25C(77F).
i am still trying to look thru my info to find the vacuum
required to distill off ethanol at say 68-72F.
roger
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > there are turbo yeasts available that will withstand
> > 20%+. wit
Motie,
Have you done any work on making the residue from the still fit for human
consumption?
By
Raw
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From: motie_d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 09 February, 2002 10:11 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
--- In
tank. Slowest process of all but uses the least energy.
>
> Just some meandering round Robin Hood's barn but I think there is a seed or
> two in there.
>
> Kirk
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: motie_d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, Februa
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> there are turbo yeasts available that will withstand
> 20%+. with sufficent vacuum you can boil water at
> room temp. i would question whether the yeast's ability
> to propagate (and therefore produce ethanol)would
> be affected by a low vacuum.
west process of all but uses the least energy.
Just some meandering round Robin Hood's barn but I think there is a seed or
two in there.
Kirk
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From: motie_d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:34 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [
there are turbo yeasts available that will withstand
20%+. with sufficent vacuum you can boil water at
room temp. i would question whether the yeast's ability
to propagate (and therefore produce ethanol)would
be affected by a low vacuum.i think that you are
pursuing an interesting avenue of resear
This is one of the reasons that The Revenoor Co.
www.revenoor.com offers all alcohol stills with
internal solar/steam coils.
Terry
--- randallbarron1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, so solar stills are available, but do not
> produce a very high
> ethanol concentration with distillation. What
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think yeast croak or really slow down at 14% or higher.(14%
=28proof)
>
That is also my understanding. The alcohol starts to kill the Yeast
above 10%, and they are nearly all dead by 14%.
On the temp side, 140F kills them off.
That
I think yeast croak or really slow down at 14% or higher.(14%=28proof)
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From: motie_d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 1:51 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> if you make your solar collector strong enought,you
> can use vacuum distillation at solar collector
> temperatures to distill ethanol.
> regards,roger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
There have been several mentions of vacuum distilation on t
if you make your solar collector strong enought,you
can use vacuum distillation at solar collector
temperatures to distill ethanol.
regards,roger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Okay, so solar stills are available, but do not produce a very high
> ethanol concentration with distillation. What
Okay, so solar stills are available, but do not produce a very high
ethanol concentration with distillation. What about using solar
energy to preheat your solution before it reaches a regular still.
If you could preheat with solar power, less energy would need to be
input it to the final dis
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