Hi,
I am in North BAy, Ontario, and I get mine at True
Value hardware for 5.39 for 4l. It makes it handy to
put the glycerol in those containers too. Canadian
Tire and Home Hardware have really expensive stuff,
and I don't know about Home depot. By the way, Methyl
Hydrate is the same thing as
i am paying $145 for a 55 gallon drum, so just about $2.63/gallon. VP Racing
Fuels is my source.
jk
Jack Kenworthy
Sustainable Systems Director
The Cape Eleuthera Island School
242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax
www.islandschool.org
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From: brent3369
To:
btw, here is an e-mail contact for VP Racing fuels in western Canada.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jack Kenworthy
Sustainable Systems Director
The Cape Eleuthera Island School
242-359-7625 ph. 954-252-2224 fax
www.islandschool.org
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From: brent3369
To:
Hi
So what temperature do you operate the still at?
Mark, England
-Original Message-
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 April 2003 16:24
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery still anyone
I'm about 100 gallons
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Supposedly, Terry Wilhelm wrote;
Talk to the guys at The Revenoor Co.
They build stills from 5 to 1,000
gallon capacity and larger. They
also build a recycling still to
recover acetones, thinners and
the likes. Making your
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Terry Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello KenSince I dont know you personally and to my knowledge we have not
talked to each other I was wondering just what this Email to the world ment.I
do read all the Emails that come in and have responded to a few in the
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry wrote:
Hello KenSince I dont know you personally and to my knowledge
we have not talked to each other I was wondering just what this
Email to the world ment.I do read all the Emails that come in and
have responded to a
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm about 100 gallons into this home brew game and quite
addicted. But there's the environmental issue tht I hear many of
y'all turning over, methanol is pretty nasty, ethanol a bit more
friendly.
I have been told
Hello,
I've been trying to find technical info on the use of ethanol in the
biodiesel manufacturing process, with no luck. I've been discussing the
possibility of a small-scale plant that produced both biodiesel and
ethanol, using agricultural raw materials (we are lucky in California -
lots of
Hello Karus, Bryan
Hello,
I've been trying to find technical info on the use of ethanol in the
biodiesel manufacturing process, with no luck.
There's quite a lot of info in the archives, and more here:
Ethyl-esters biodiesel
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_link.html#ethylester
I've been
Most Methanol made in America today is made from Natural gas by destructive
distilation. You can make your own with methain using copper scub pads for a
catilist but it is expensive. You would be better off useing ethel alcohol. You
can use cornmeal to take the last 5% of the water out of the
Keith,
I too found information on the process of creating methanol from syn-gas
(CO, CO2, H2):
http://www.methanex.com/emergingenergy/syngasfactory.htm
Although I could not find out how the natural gas is transformed into
the syngas, I did
find some information on destructive distillation:
Talk to the guys at The Revenoor Co. They build stills from 5 to 1,000 gallon
capacity and larger. They also build a recycling still to recover acetones,
thinners and the likes. Making your own ethanol is very easy, legal and
fun.www.revenoor.com503.662.4173
bowlcole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
llkona wrote:
I am wondering if anyone knows of a supplier of methanol in southern
Nevada. The only supply I have found so far is Haycock Petroleum
and they get $3.18/gallon if you buy a 54 gallon drum. Any help for
a reasonably priced supply would be appreciated.
See:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:38, you wrote:
Hi Guys,
Best Biodiesel site I have seen on the net.
I am about to trial my fist batch of BD, but was surprised by the cost
of methanol in AUS. As I am starting small, I am going to purchase a 20
litre drum of methanol.
I was surprised it cost AUS$46
Hello Tim,
I have had a positive response from one of our methanol distributors in
Germany, who has expressed interest in meeting your requirements.
The contact is
Thomas Mattis
VLC - GmbH
Bahnstrasse 30 - 32
Fon: + 49 6103 922 409
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hope this helps you
Fred Enga
Tim,
have you tried to contact the SASOL Company in South Africa? They are the
big synthetic petroleum from coal company there. I guess that they might
have methanol. And maybe some other alcohols.
Another possibility would be for you to consider using ethanol (ethyl
alcohol) instead of methanol,
Methanex might have the quantities your looking for.
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Tim Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need to get between 5,000 and 10,000 liters of methanol per month to
Banjul, The Gambia, West Africa, for a Biodiesel project. I've tried
to contact a number of methanol producers
Yep, called them today. Looks like I will be getting my meth from them.
James Slayden
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Ken Provost wrote:
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:27 AM, James Slayden wrote:
ERC Racing in San Lorenzo. Anyone have a source in the south bay?
I get mine at Kaeding
ERC Racing in San Lorenzo. Anyone have a source in the south bay?
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Ken wrote:
Can anyone point me to a source for Methanol in sunny California???
Thanks,
Ken
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Biofuels list archives:
Wow!! I just called Parallel Products to get a quote on a 55 gal drum, how
funny!! Haven't gotten a response yet, put hoping to soon.
James Slayden
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Ken Provost wrote:
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 11:19 AM, girl mark wrote:
the ethanol bulk buy is Ken
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:27 AM, James Slayden wrote:
ERC Racing in San Lorenzo. Anyone have a source in the south bay?
I get mine at Kaeding Performance in Campbell. More expensive
($2.75 - 3.00 a gallon), but convenient.
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
That Rocks Ken!! Thanks. Right outside my back door.
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Ken Provost wrote:
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:27 AM, James Slayden wrote:
ERC Racing in San Lorenzo. Anyone have a source in the south bay?
I get mine at Kaeding Performance in Campbell. More
Ken,
Anywhere in particular in CA?
How much Methanol are you looking for?
I'm in San Diego, I buy 5-35gal quantities from VP Racing fuels through
local performance shops. I wish I had the room to work with larger amounts,
I'd buy in bulk direct from VP in LA, it's much cheaper.
There's a group in
well that depends on where you are in california. look in the phone book
under racing (or automotive-racing and performance, amazing how many people
miss that one when they look at racetracks and only find the horse racing
variety!). ask at your local hot rod shops or race engine builders.
the ethanol bulk buy is Ken Provost's project (listmember here as well as
at the Burnveggies list...). It's an interesting one but be aware that
ethanol is not super useful for complete beginners- ethanol is much harder
to work predictably with than methanol. I was able to get 100% ethanol
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 11:19 AM, girl mark wrote:
the ethanol bulk buy is Ken Provost's project (listmember here as well
as
at the Burnveggies list...). It's an interesting one but be aware that
ethanol is not super useful for complete beginners- ethanol is much
harder
to
Thanks for the help! I live in the foothills Nevada City to be exact. Hope
to get my Ford F250 runnin on bio-diesel soon.
Ken
- Original Message -
From: girl mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Ken Basterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try Ellis Everard.
I only know their Exeter branch, 01392 444108. I know they can supply but
haven't bought any from them.
Methonex in the north east are the manufacturers but they won't deal with
individuals.
Let me know
There is an ellis and Everard in Nuneaton, just north of Coventry, just off
junction 3 of the M6, if that helps
- Original Message -
From: Ken Basterfield
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol source
Try Ellis
Keith,
You have aroused my curosity, and I have to ask why you say don't try
for the free samples ?
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 03:47
Subject:
Keith,
You have aroused my curosity, and I have to ask why you say don't try
for the free samples ?
Greg H.
Apologies Greg, pure laziness. I should have written something
instead saying they're now suppling meth, but Jess's letter was right
there saying it all so I sent that instead -
how about giving me your free sample . ;-)
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote:
Keith,
You have aroused my curosity, and I have to ask why you say don't
try
for the free samples ?
Greg H.
Apologies Greg, pure laziness. I should have written something
instead saying
try a search for
albion chemicals
or ellis and everard, www.elliseverard.co.uk is their add. i think
From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
To: Biofuel-JTF biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol and sodium hydroxide
Date: Sun, 07 Apr
Hi,
I live in the United Kingdom and I am having trouble obtaining methanol and
sodium hydroxide. Can anyone help me in anyway? I've tried the
journeytoforever website with no success.
I would apreciate an email from anybody in the UK concerning biodiesel
production.
Christopher Price
[EMAIL
I have looked everywhere but UK laws are very restrictive and there is lots
of red tape to get through. I will keep trying though!
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol and sodium hydroxide
Date: Mon
I too would be interested. On the other hand, for any one interested, I
found out that the second Home Power Mag. CD, has instructions for crude
BioMass to Methanol production, by way of gasification.
Greg H.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@yahoogroups.com
I too would be interested. On the other hand, for any one interested, I
found out that the second Home Power Mag. CD, has instructions for crude
BioMass to Methanol production, by way of gasification.
Greg H.
Hi Greg
That's been mentioned a few times before, but we've never had any
details,
5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
Hi All
I have Micki's Book. The chapter on Methanol does not say how to make
methanol. It says that making methanol is a completely different
process and this book doen not tell you how to make methanol. It goes on
to say that methanol
:
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 21:03
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
Hello George
Hello Keith
Could you or Daniel give some detail on the process of producing
methanol from biogas
Greg wrote:
- Original Message -
From: George Wessel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 21:21
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
As I understand it Methanol can be produced from CO and Hydrogen. This
requires pressure beyond my
, March 07, 2002 21:03
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
Hello George
Hello Keith
Could you or Daniel give some detail on the process of producing
methanol from biogas.
Not me, other than to refer you to previous discussions in the
archives, as previous.
Maybe
://journeytoforever.org/
Greg and April wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 21:03
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
Hello George
Hello Keith
Could you or Daniel give some detail
- Original Message -
From: Daniel West
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 01:27
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
Some more info:
see the zip-file (ppt). For small scale plants it more easy to
recommendable to use a once-through process. the other
. A synthesis should be supply with a
gas of the right stoichiometry (H2 to CO) rate (2H2 + CO --
CH3OH).
Daniel
Greg and April wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Daniel West
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 01:27
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
What we need is a little skid-mounted unit that has a coupla
pipe fittings for methane (from a natural gas line, or your
backyard chicken-poop digester) and feed water, and a
collection tank for methanol at the other end. Even hooked
up to my PGE gas line, I'd get methanol for $0.75 a gal.
Hi All
I have Micki's Book. The chapter on Methanol does not say how to make
methanol. It says that making methanol is a completely different
process and this book doen not tell you how to make methanol. It goes on
to say that methanol is made by heating wood ash, waste and stalks and
then
interesing energy
efficiency and output.
Greg and April wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 21:03
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
Hello George
Hello Keith
Could you
efficiency and output.
Greg and April wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 21:03
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
Hello George
Hello Keith
Could you or Daniel
If the CH4 is produced in a biomass digester would I still have to use
the reformer with Pt-cat?
George
There are 2 different approaches getting mixed up here. One makes
methanol from synthesis gas, also called producer gas, which is
a mixture of mostly CO, CO2, and H2, with a little N2 and
The other approach makes methanol from methane and steam.
This is the typical methanol synthesis method used today, with
the methane coming from natural gas. It could also use methane
from biomass digestion.
Both approaches need catalysts, but not the same catalysts.
Hi
Could you give
Could you give details on the methane with steam process. A article,
book or anything would be of great help.
Thanks
George
2CH4 + 3H2O --- CO + CO2 + 7H2
CO + CO2 + 5H2 --- 2CH3OH (methanol) + H2O
the remaining 2H2 molecules are typically burned or
We, at a R D center did produce methanol from biomasse via
biogas and synthesis gas (H2 and CO, ...). It did work quite
well tough the efficiency isn't that high. I know an other
project in Germany where they produce methanol from syngas
from a gasification plant. So, this is feasible.
We, at a R D center did produce methanol from biomasse via
biogas and synthesis gas (H2 and CO, ...). It did work quite
well tough the efficiency isn't that high. I know an other
project in Germany where they produce methanol from syngas
from a gasification plant. So, this is feasible.
Producing
Hello Keith
Could you or Daniel give some detail on the process of producing
methanol from biogas.
Thanks
George
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We, at a R D center did produce methanol from biomasse via
biogas and synthesis gas (H2 and CO, ...). It did work quite
well tough the efficiency
Hello George
Hello Keith
Could you or Daniel give some detail on the process of producing
methanol from biogas.
Not me, other than to refer you to previous discussions in the
archives, as previous.
Maybe Daniel can help you - on-list I hope, if so, there are lots of
people who want to know
What's your plan for the methanol, by the way? You want to make fuel
ethanol, are you considering using methanol as a fuel?
regards
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Osaka, Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/
Hello Keith
As I understand it Methanol can be
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 21:03
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
Hello George
Hello Keith
Could you or Daniel give some detail on the process of producing
methanol from biogas.
Not me, other
- Original Message -
From: George Wessel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 21:21
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol from biomass
As I understand it Methanol can be produced from CO and Hydrogen. This
requires pressure beyond my abilities
movember [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any suggestions for an off-the-shelf vacuum distillation unit for
recovering methanol from a home-built continuous processor?
If possible, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Preferably, send it here to the list - I'm sure a lot of members
would be interested.
In a message dated 01/28/2002 10:18:56 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In particular, Ocean Air does a million gallons a month
Do you have a web site or contact at Ocean Air? Richard
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
have you considered vacuum distillation?
best regards, roger
Since I signed on a few weeks ago, I have been researching like
crazy the feasibility of small scale biodiesel from WVO in my
community - rochester new york.
my question is: how to meet ASTM standards and the
well, here is how you would do it - in small runs for those
interested.
http://www.gtinstruments.com/minidistV5.htm
thanks for rapid responses.
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In a message dated 01/28/2002 10:18:56 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In particular, Ocean Air does a million gallons a month
Do you have a web site or contact at Ocean Air? Richard
NOPEC Corporation -- Now OceanAir Environmental Fuels. Lakeland,
Florida plant is a
Well, the fact remains that many backyarders with equipment and
techniques the industry suits would sneer at (DO sneer at) succeed in
making high-quality biodiesel, as proved by having the engine
professionally examined after many thousands of miles driven on their
allegedly perilous fuel,
Hi James
http://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc196.htm
Methanol (EHC 196, 1997)
INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMME ON CHEMICAL SAFETY
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH CRITERIA 196
Methanol
I've just had a quick look through the document but didn't read
anything which relates to what many of us are probably
http://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc196.htm
Methanol (EHC 196, 1997)
INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMME ON CHEMICAL SAFETY
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH CRITERIA 196
Methanol
I've just had a quick look through the document but didn't read
anything which relates to what many of us are probably doing . ie.
http://www.methanol.org/methanol/report/eval_environ.html
Evaluation of the Fate and Transport of Methanol in the Environment
Microsoft Word file, 203 KB, 57 pages.
http://www.methanol.org/methanol/report/evaluation.doc
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I've just been talking to a very experienced BioD maker who assures
me that if making commercial quantities it's exxential to remove the
methanol from the ester before washing or the methanol will come out
in the wash water and be frowned on in the extreem by any
environmental agency.
Here's
A while back there was a post on how cheap methanol
was wholesale and speculation that one had to purchase
a bargeful to get that price. I contacted the importer
that was listed in the post/link to see what the
minimum amount was. I have gone the SVO route and so
don't use methanol but I thought
Hi Anton
An acquaintance did a test and got about %4 back from a batch using %16
methanol. I assume then that the bd reaction only uses 10-12 percent.
Other sources confirm that - but, unless you have a very well
controlled set-up, as in a lab, you need to use the extra to get your
reaction
Jeff writes:
I don't have much scientific knowledge about this, but I would guess
that since methanol is a smaller molecule than ethanol, it is
probably more reactive and therefore will work better to make
biodiesel even if there is more water present. Anyone else who can
back this up?
Yes,
Is methyl-hydrate methanol?
--- Shawn Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For my first test, I used lab grade methanol, which is 99.9% pure, and less
than .01% water, but expensive.
If I switch to methyl hydrate from the hardware store (99% pure I think)
can I expect to have problems with
Yes, methyl hydrate, methyl alcohol, wood alcohol, and methanol are all
the same. The only difference is purity, where methyl hydrate may only be
98-99% pure, and lab grade methanol is 99.9% pure.
I'm not sure if this matters, but I suspect not. I will find out shortly, as I
can't afford to
Let us know how the less expensive methyl hydrate works out.
--- Shawn Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, methyl hydrate, methyl alcohol, wood alcohol, and methanol are all
the same. The only difference is purity, where methyl hydrate may only be
98-99% pure, and lab grade methanol is
Martin R. asks:
How do most of you , that recover there methanol or ethanol do it ???
If you use a vacuum pump, where do you get one , and how do you set it up
how much can be recovered from the glycerine ,or can one recover the Methanol
from the entire BD batch , after the BD has been
See the systems at www.resciences.com. If you do enough volume, they should
work well.
Craig
How do most of you , that recover there methanol or ethanol do it ???
If you use a vacuum pump, where do you get one , and how do you set it
up
how much can be recovered from the glycerine ,or can
- Original Message -
From: Barryt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are you aware of any storage limitation in suburban Sydney?
regards Barryt
Barry its some twenty or so years since I lived in Sydney so I can't help
you there. Moved to far north Queensland many years ago to escaped the
rat-race.
Expensive
-Original Message-
From: Paul Gobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:46 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol Availability - Australia
- Original Message -
From: Barryt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I live
Just wondering if anyone bothers much about methanol extraction, and
the whole issue about vacuum systems.
Dave
..
Yup. Some of us do. When running small batches, it may not seem to be of
much consequence, but it's about 5 gallons for every 50 gallons of output.
That's a
What would you like to know about methanol extraction?
What issue are you referring to?
-Martin Klingensmith
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wondering if anyone bothers much about methanol
extraction, and
the whole issue about vacuum systems.
Dave
Paul,
Thanks for your advice. I was only fast-tracking.
Reagrds Barryt.
- Original Message -
From: Paul Gobert
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol _Storage regulations Sydney Aust.
- Original
- Original Message -
From: Barryt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I live on the northern beaches of Sydney. Does anyone in the group have
some methanol locations that would suit me.
Try BP (Australia) they market the methanol I am using.
BP Methanol Straight.
Available in 20L and 200L drums,
Ask them for methyl hydrate.
From: Barryt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:34:55 +1000
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol Availability - Vancouver
I live on the northern beaches of Sydney. Does anyone in the group
Thanks Ed
Barryt
- Original Message -
From: Ed Beggs
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol Availability - Vancouver
Ask them for methyl hydrate.
From: Barryt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel
Thanks also Paul. Are you aware of any storage limitation in suburban Sydney?
regards Barryt
- Original Message -
From: Paul Gobert
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol Availability - Australia
- Original
]
Cc: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol availability
I am in British Columbia. I can not find methanol.
.
Check bulk fuel suppliers. Not only do they supply fuel oils, petrol and
the
like, but can
I pay the equivalent of US$2.00 for 99% methanol here in South Africa.
Keep searching...
-Original Message-
From: Dave Morch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:48 PM
To: 'biofuel@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [biofuel] Methanol Availability - Vancouver
Just
: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Methanol Availability - Vancouver
I pay the equivalent of US$2.00 for 99% methanol here in South Africa.
Keep searching...
-Original Message-
From: Dave Morch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8
I havent made a batch of biodiesel yet, but ive got
some graduated cylinders and stuff coming in the mail.
Im under the impression that your local drag strip
carries methanol, assuming you have a local drag
strip, ive got one 45 minutes away, and as soon as my
parts come in the mail ill go in
Darren - we are in Kelowna. We buy in bulk. Where are you?
Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca
From: Darren Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [biofuel] methanol availability
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- Original Message -
From: Darren Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] methanol availability
Greg Yohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where are you? I thought methal hydrate was methanol mixed with Lye (NaOH).
Methanol + lye (NaOH) = sodium methoxide.
From the archives:
Methyl hydrate seems to be a Canadian only term for methanol otherwise known
as methyl alcohol or wood alcohol.
Methyl
Hi Joseph
Very nice, clear explanation, thankyou!
Best wishes
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/
John,
Methane (CH4) is not gaseous methanol. Methanol is oxygenated methane re: a
hydroxyl group (OH) replaces one of the hydrogen atoms in
John,
Methane (CH4) is not gaseous methanol. Methanol is oxygenated methane re: a
hydroxyl group (OH) replaces one of the hydrogen atoms in the molecule. (CH3OH)
This is how it works for all the alcohols. Add the OH to ethane, and get
ethanol; to propane, and get propanol; butane, butanol, and so
Thanks David.
I did a quick search on the net and found one or two conversion charts which
didnt have mws.
Cheers
Ian
- Original Message -
From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol/methoxide vacuum
Ian,
Dont know what mws mean in your message below but dug out the
following chart for pressure
To convert fromto
Multiply by
atmosphere, standard kilopascal (kPa)
101.325
atmosphere, technical (1 kilogram force
per
One of our project members has requested that I
investigate the possability of methanol production
using corn cobs as a feedstock.
Consisting of mainly cellulose I imagine that a
destructive distillation might be the route to go.
Does anyone have a lead for more information on
destructive
Hi Keith, Dana and All,
--- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of our project members has requested that I
investigate the possability of methanol production
using corn cobs as a feedstock.
Consisting of mainly cellulose I imagine that a
destructive distillation might be the
One of our project members has requested that I
investigate the possability of methanol production
using corn cobs as a feedstock.
Consisting of mainly cellulose I imagine that a
destructive distillation might be the route to go.
Does anyone have a lead for more information on
destructive
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