t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: Olympic medalists, world record holders to appear at USA Indoor Championships press conference

2003-02-21 Thread USATF Communications
MEMO: February 21, 2003 TO: U.S. Athletics Media FROM: Jill M. Geer USATF Director of Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] 317-261-0500 x360 SUBJECT:USATF Press Conference Olympic medalists, world record holders to appear at

t-and-f: The 7th Hardest Thing to do in Sports

2003-02-21 Thread Kurt Bray
According to USA Today, running a fast marathon is the 7th hardest thing in sports to accomplish, one place ahead of completing the Tour de France: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2003-02-20-ten-hardest-marathon_x.htm They are counting down the top ten, one difficult thing each day, and today

Re: t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: Olympic medalists, world recordholders to appear at USA Indoor Championships press conference

2003-02-21 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Not so. The women's 1500 was run in the 1999 Championships in Atlanta. Suzy Hamilton won in 4:13.96. Not sure if the 1500 was run other years in Atlanta, but it may have been. Now if we could just get the men to make the switchÂ… USATF Communications wrote: REGINA JACOBS: A favorite

Re: t-and-f: The 7th Hardest Thing to do in Sports

2003-02-21 Thread Philip_Ponebshek
Without reading the interview or article, I'd offer that the *really* hard thing is running a fast marathon on the day you really need to run a fast marathon, like in the Olympics. There are so many things that can go wrong, that being able to not only put everything together, but to them

Re: t-and-f: The 7th Hardest Thing to do in Sports

2003-02-21 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
Ok, this will obviously startsomething, but. . . running a low two hour marathon is easier than simply completing the tour de france? I don't think so. Now, I know that just completing the tour within the time limits is a great accomplishment, but far lesser athletes than your typical 2:08

Re: t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: Olympic medalists, worldrecord holders to appear at USA Indoor Championships press conference

2003-02-21 Thread Lee Nichols
No way! Keep the mile! In fact, I say can the 1500 at all levels and replace it with the mile. I don't mind the 1,500 so much for women -- that 4-minute mark makes for a nice benchmark -- but we definitely need miles for men. Lee Not so. The women's 1500 was run in the 1999 Championships in

t-and-f: Going for the Joggler

2003-02-21 Thread Post, Marty
There's a small item in the Scorecard section of the latest Sports Illustrated (Feb 24, Angels baseball cover), about Chris Essick, a jogglerof some renown. Recently lowered the 200 meter indoor record for joggling -- running while juggling -- to 27.75 seconds. He also has outdoor world bests of

Re: t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: Olympic medalists, world record holders to appear at USA Indoor Championships press conference

2003-02-21 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 2/21/03 11:15:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not so. The women's 1500 was run in the 1999 Championships in Atlanta. Suzy Hamilton won in 4:13.96. Not sure if the 1500 was run other years in Atlanta, but it may have been. The women also ran 1500-meters in 1997. Walt

Re: t-and-f: Going for the Joggler

2003-02-21 Thread ghill
I'm pretty sure the 26.16 was wind-aided. :-) From: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:50:08 -0500 To: 't-and-f@darkwing. uoregon. edu' (E-mail)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Going for the Joggler There's a small item in

Re: t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: Olympic medalists, world record holders to appear at USA Indoor Championships press conference

2003-02-21 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
The biggest problem I have with the mile is that when someone runs a mile under 4:00 they actually begin to think they're good! When someone runs a 1500 under 3:30 they really are good. I really think that our fixation on the four minute mile has impeded the development of middle distance

Re: t-and-f: Going for the Joggler

2003-02-21 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
I have seen him many times joggling in local meets. It is most impressive to see him joggle the 110 hurdles! Post, Marty wrote: There's a small item in the Scorecard section of the latest Sports Illustrated (Feb 24, Angels baseball cover), about Chris Essick, a jogglerof some renown. Recently

RE: t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: Olympic medalists, world record holders to appear at USA Indoor Championships press conference

2003-02-21 Thread USATF Communications
You are right, Wayne. We were looking at the wrong list. Apologies for the error, which will be corrected. Jill M. Geer USATF Director of Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone/fax: 508-695-0595 -Original Message- From: Wayne T. Armbrust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February

t-and-f: Josh McDougal Interview

2003-02-21 Thread ricardo quintana
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Re: t-and-f: The 7 Hardest Things to do in Sports

2003-02-21 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
A sub 2:40 50k race walk would be good! Sub 3:40 is pretty good too! Ed and Dana Parrot wrote: Ok, this will obviously startsomething, but. . . running a low two hour marathon is easier than simply completing the tour de france? I don't think so. Now, I know that just completing the tour within

Re: t-and-f: Going for the Joggler

2003-02-21 Thread ghill
From: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:50:08 -0500 To: 't-and-f@darkwing. uoregon. edu' (E-mail)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Going for the Joggler Essick, 31, was a former decathlete at Missouri Valley College. OK,

Re: t-and-f: Going for the Joggler

2003-02-21 Thread Martin J. Dixon
Once again a couple of other track pieces including an Oldfield bit. Regards, Martin Post, Marty wrote: There's a small item in the Scorecard section of the latest Sports Illustrated (Feb 24, Angels baseball cover), about Chris Essick, a jogglerof some renown. Recently lowered the 200 meter

RE: t-and-f: Going for the Joggler

2003-02-21 Thread WARD, MARK -CKHS
But could he beat a Kenyan fetus? Mark Ward -Original Message- From: Wayne T. Armbrust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:30 AM To: 't-and-f@darkwing. uoregon. edu' (E-mail) Subject: Re: t-and-f: Going for the Joggler I have seen him many times joggling in

RE: t-and-f: Going for the Joggler

2003-02-21 Thread Jones, Carleton
Perhaps not, but I bet most on our list could beat a dead horse... -Original Message- From: WARD, MARK -CKHS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:56 AM To: 'Wayne T. Armbrust'; 't-and-f@darkwing. uoregon. edu' (E-mail) Subject: RE: t-and-f: Going for the

t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: Stacy Dragila to appear on USATF teleconference

2003-02-21 Thread USATF Communications
MEMO: February 21, 2003 TO: U.S. Athletics Media FROM: Jill M. Geer USATF Director of Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] 317-261-0500 x360 http://www.usatf.org SUBJECT:Media Teleconference Stacy Dragila to appear on USATF

t-and-f: RESEND: Stacy Dragila teleconference advisory

2003-02-21 Thread USATF Communications
MEMO: February 21, 2003 TO: U.S. Athletics Media FROM: Jill M. Geer USATF Director of Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] 317-261-0500 x360 http://www.usatf.org SUBJECT:Media Teleconference Stacy

Re: t-and-f: Going for the Joggler

2003-02-21 Thread Lee Nichols
Damn -- I think 26 and 56 were my PRs for 200 and 400! I've never had any illusions that my footspeed was anything great, but if I had ever been passed by a guy juggling, I would have quit the sport right there on the spot. Lee There's a small item in the Scorecard section of the latest

t-and-f: Geb smashes 2 mile WR

2003-02-21 Thread Post, Marty
Haile Gebrselassie smashes the world indoor two mile record with a devastating display at Norwich Union GP. The Ethiopian legend knocks an incredible five seconds off the old mark as he clocks 8mins 4.69secs in front of thousands of cheering fans at the National Indoor Arena.

t-and-f: WR for Geb

2003-02-21 Thread ghill
or, more properly, WR 8:04.69 for 2M in Birmingham. Chops about 5 seconds off the old mark, but is still about 5 seconds short of the 3000 equivalent. gh

t-and-f: Haile!

2003-02-21 Thread Matthew H Fraser Moat
You just aren't supposed to run 8.04 for two miles with negative splits! One can imagine that in his 10k training sessions Haile aims for 6 x 1 mile reps at 4 minutes per rep with 30 seconds rest between reps. Or maybe that is old hat? Matthew Fraser Moat AW Subs offer:

Re: t-and-f: Geb smashes 2 mile WR

2003-02-21 Thread ghill
notable yes, incredible no. Conversions between 3000m and 2M are still voodoo science, to be sure, if you want 100th-second accuracy, but by no stretch of the imagination is this even an indoor PR for Geb, who has run 7:26 for the metric distance. Since the Africans took over distance running,

t-and-f: Historical question

2003-02-21 Thread Matthew H Fraser Moat
Ok so Haile had a great race, but what about Mekkonen? Apart from tonight, when was the last time in a distance race did the current world record holder break his own world record but not win the race? In the sprints, can think of Carl Lewis in Seoul in 1988, and I know that both Wooderson and

t-and-f: NSIC

2003-02-21 Thread Track Fan
As a track fan and a NY City and State Tax Payer, I am troubled to find out the amount of money that is being spent here for the NSIC at the Armory. I am under the impression that the MAC gets NY State funding to run its youth programs and if they are spending so much money on out-of-state

Re: t-and-f: Geb smashes 2 mile WR

2003-02-21 Thread Martin J. Dixon
As one of the token Canucks on the list it would be remiss of me if I didn't point out that Graham Hood paced him. A report is below that was posted to to TC. He corrects the number of seconds to 5 in a later message. Regards, Martin Subject: TF World Record Date: Fri, 21 Feb

Re: t-and-f: Geb smashes 2 mile WR

2003-02-21 Thread ghill
am I the only one who wants to gag when he sees fantastic and paced in the same sentence? gh From: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:07:33 -0500 To: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Geb smashes 2 mile WR Birmingham England .. In a display of

Re: t-and-f: Geb smashes 2 mile WR

2003-02-21 Thread JTFlash
In a message dated 2/21/03 5:08:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: notable yes, incredible no. Conversions between 3000m and 2M are still voodoo science, to be sure, if you want 100th-second accuracy, but by no stretch of the imagination is this even an indoor PR for Geb, who has run 7:26 for the

Re: t-and-f: NSIC

2003-02-21 Thread Ben Hall
I'd venture to guess that NY State gets considerable tourism revenue from the families, friends, and athletes while they're in town AND might even have enough foresight to think that by getting those kids to NYC at an impressionable age there will be many more dollars to follow from these same

t-and-f: [Fwd: TF The Budget]

2003-02-21 Thread Martin J. Dixon
Some non Canucks might be interested in this only because of its inanity. A 10 million dollar item and it was threatening to drown out the 145 billion dollar budget. Manley is revisiting the issue. Someone should lose their job for letting it in there. Manley has been shocked at the seemingly

Re: t-and-f: Historical question

2003-02-21 Thread ghill
30K at Walton in 1965: Tim Johnston 1:32:34.6, Jim Alder 1:33:51.6. Old record Alder 1:34:01.8. From: Matthew H Fraser Moat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Descartes Publishing Reply-To: Matthew H Fraser Moat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:42:11 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: Stockholm Results (Olson 17.40m, 3 under 1:45)

2003-02-21 Thread Kebba Tolbert
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Re: t-and-f: Historical question

2003-02-21 Thread Dave Johnson
Timing for events beyond the 800 (or at least starting with the 1500) was to the fifth-second through at least the mid-'50s. John Landy's 3:58.0 WR in 1954 was actually a 3:57.9. Without checking rulebooks I'm not certain when the rule changed so that fifth-second timing pertained only to

t-and-f: Birmingham: W PV WR - 4.77

2003-02-21 Thread Kebba Tolbert
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Re: t-and-f: Historical question

2003-02-21 Thread ghill
that was a joke! Just being silly because the three times cited were 3:45.0, 3:44.0, 3:43.0. The 3:45.0, while ratified was 3:45.0, was actually a 3:44.9, using the rules change DJ cites. In a quick peek I can't find a specific citation for when the rule changed, but do find a WR as late as 1966

RE: t-and-f: Geb smashes 2 mile WR

2003-02-21 Thread Matthew H Fraser Moat
It's a bit like the old 1,500m / Mile conundrum - it is amazing how many 3.41 1,500m runners just can't beat 4 minutes for the mile. For 3k specialists, I would estimate that about 7.23 for 3k was equivalent to 8 minutes for 2 miles. Geb's outdoor bests are only 7.25/8.01, times which he

Re: t-and-f: Geb smashes 2 mile WR

2003-02-21 Thread ghill
nah, there is no conundrum: in the old days (i.e., when more miles were run than 1500s) people were mentally buffaloed by the 4:00 figure and the pace scared them more than in the 1500, where they new they didn't have to go as far (even though it's so close). Reason for same phenomenon now is

Re: t-and-f: Going for the Joggler

2003-02-21 Thread nad wilson
My favorite part of the article was when they explained what joggling is and finished with yes thats juggling WHILE jogging. and go on to say he ran 27.blah blah.. 27 seconds, jogging? that may be a world record. i wonder how fast he could sprint 200 meters while juggling dAN From: Lee

Re: t-and-f: NSIC

2003-02-21 Thread Track Fan
Your points would be valid if : 1) they paid 100% of their trip, but sinc all is being picked up by the Empire State, what revenue will those 54 people leave behind? 2) The New Yorkers leaving in question are leaving on sponsor money. (NIC, AOC, Footlocker, etc) I do not think Maryland,

Re: t-and-f: Geb smashes 2 mile WR

2003-02-21 Thread Bryan Beel
On 2/21/03 2:13 PM, ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: am I the only one who wants to gag when he sees fantastic and paced in the same sentence? gh There are at least two translations of that phrase (display of fantastic paced running): 1) He did a fantastic job running with his pacer 2) He

t-and-f: WPV Record

2003-02-21 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, Kebba posted the subject line, Birmingham: W PV WR - 4.77, without additional details. This would have referred to Svetlana Feofanova's winning mark at this meet. In a later exchange on the VaultCanada mailing list, I took exception to the description of this result, by VaultnGus,