Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Import

2009-08-04 Thread Christoph Böhme
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: On 1 Aug 2009, at 22:51, Thomas Wood wrote: snip Ooops, I linked the wrong changeset! http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/389 was my intent. A couple of comments. Firstly, the locality field is an important part of the

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

2009-08-04 Thread Frankie Roberto
Hi all, I'm still keen to try and nail this public transport service vs infrastructure issue. I think this mainly applies to railways, however, as I've mentioned before, I'm trying out a few of the ideas on the UK's much smaller list of tram networks.

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

2009-08-04 Thread Cartinus
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 00:37:50 Frankie Roberto wrote: Hi all, I'm still keen to try and nail this public transport service vs infrastructure issue. IMHO the solution is simple. Name it after what you are mapping. For vehicles: The route the cyclist follows is route=bicycle. The route

[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-04 Thread maning sambale
Hi, Don't know how to respond here: On Monday 03 August 2009 20:09:23 SLXViper wrote: www.openstreetmap.is and osm.is weren't mentioned as far as I could see. Both redirect to the normal openstreetmap.org domain. I added them to the list I also created a wiki page as mentioned before:

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: Using OSm data for Flicker Map in Metro Manila, Philippines (was Fwd: [OSM-talk] Results from the first VietnameseMapping Party last 18th July)

2009-08-04 Thread Marloue Pidor
This is soo nice! murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 8/5/2009 9:13:06 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: Using OSm data for Flicker Map in Metro Manila,Philippines (was Fwd: [OSM-talk] Results from the first

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussel - Bruxelles

2009-08-04 Thread Chris Browet
2009/8/3 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wannes wrote: 2009/8/3 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com btw, while checking the history of the place node (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/17401554/history) I've seen the name has apparently been changed some days ago to include

Re: [OSM-talk] road width

2009-08-04 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:10:27PM +1000, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, you wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_1_(Australia) I remember after arriving in Australia in 1965 seeing the signs Cairns to Darwin via coast and the picture showing the road going the long way

Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-04 Thread Louis Liu
Hi Vincent: Thank you for telling us the problem. The url to our site is corrected. And www.openstreetmap.tw works now. -- Louis Liu OSM TW: http://OpenStreetMap.tw/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Mount Obama mapped

2009-08-04 Thread Steve Chilton
Antigua and Barbuda today renames Boggy Peak to Mount Obama http://snurl.com/onw6v So the OSM map shows it on change day http://snurl.com/onw8t Easy comparison target: Google has Boggy Peak (as was) in wrong place http://snurl.com/onw8t See also Bolans (spelt wrong), Jennings and Ebenezer well

Re: [OSM-talk] Mount Obama mapped

2009-08-04 Thread Jonas Häggqvist
Steve Chilton wrote: Antigua and Barbuda today renames Boggy Peak to Mount Obama http://snurl.com/onw6v So the OSM map shows it on change day http://snurl.com/onw8t That link appears to be wrong - http://osm.org/go/Y2AFWDF Easy comparison target: Google has Boggy Peak (as was) in wrong place

Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread James Livingston
On 03/08/2009, at 11:23 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: In any case, if you have a router that does this kind of thing, wouldn't it be better to base it off landuse=residential/industrial? the problem is, that it is far more timeconsuming to check this

[OSM-talk] Mount Obama (revisited)

2009-08-04 Thread Steve Chilton
It would seem that snurl.com short URLs are not copy-and-pasteable - well not from a tweet. So if interested here is the message with long URLs (thanks to those that pointed it out to me). -- Antigua and Barbuda today renames Boggy Peak to Mount Obama

[OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Ryan
Hi All I'm trying to update the map using a GPS trace I took while on holiday in Udine in Northern Italy http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?gpx=462905 However, the map itself is really slow to show all the existing ways once I go into edit mode - I have already created a road that was already

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Ryan
Looks like it could be a bug or something (or maybe something wrong in the trace). I tried editing it in IE and it does the same thing. I've got some other traces from the same area that I'll upload and see how I get on Cheers Mike 2009/8/4 Mike Ryan mike.r...@redmar.com Hi All I'm trying

Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/4 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: On 03/08/2009, at 11:23 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: well, tag whatever you like, I just can tell you, that the definiton in the wiki says for residential, that there must be at least at one side residences. The highway=residential wiki page

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/4 Mike Ryan mike.r...@redmar.com: Is this normal? Is there anything I can do to speed this up? Is it because the area I'm doing is not very well mapped, so not cached on the server or something? I also experienced the same issue when mapping in Italy. When I was in Germany, it was a

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Ryan
Thanks, Martin I think I may have found out what the problem is. Like you said, don't blame the potlatch!! On the traces I have problems with, I did multiple traces on the same day and saved them on my Garmin eTrex. The device shows for example, the following two traces 29-JUL-2009 29-JUL-2009

[OSM-talk] main page proposed feature

2009-08-04 Thread vincivis
Hi all. I would like to propose to add the full option ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6#Full:_GET_.2Fapi.2F0.6.2F.5Bway.7Crelation.5D.2F.23id.2Ffull) to the download xml link, on the element's page (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/32428515). Actually, the

[OSM-talk] (no subject)

2009-08-04 Thread wynndale
I have put together some thoughts about how you could go about tagging a whole shop chain or similar while making searches for the chain or the type of shop useful. I have put them online in the OSM wiki at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/user:Wynndale/Tagging_branch_networks_(draft) As a

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Körner
Mike Ryan schrieb: Hi All I'm trying to update the map using a GPS trace I took while on holiday in Udine in Northern Italy http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?gpx=462905 However, the map itself is really slow to show all the existing ways once I go into edit mode - I have already

[OSM-talk] OSM Low-Res / Overview / Toplevel

2009-08-04 Thread Nic Roets
Hello, I would like a subset of the planet file that only include the largest and most notable features: For example large cities, provinces, states and countries. The ways should be simplified so that segments are typically several kilometers long (or longer). Is it easy to generate such an

[OSM-talk] api static maps

2009-08-04 Thread Paweł Niechoda
Hi all According to feedback I recived I have add some new featurs to static API. So now there is a better way of controlling how drawings are drawn (transparence, thickness, color could be defined for each object separately, there is a way to put image onto the map). It is also possible to put

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline

2009-08-04 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Martijn van Oosterhout klep...@gmail.com To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net Cc: Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM, David

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I also experienced the same issue when mapping in Italy. When I was in Germany, it was a completely different potlatch-experience and I was sorry for blaming potlatch in the past ;-) :) Potlatch is indeed quite sensitive to connectivity problems, whether with the

Re: [OSM-talk] (no subject)

2009-08-04 Thread Shaun McDonald
Could you please give examples of usage on that page? In the main most chains, such as the Tesco supermarket have the tags shop=supermarket; name=Tesco, which I don't think is compatible with your idea of having an operator and name tag where you would put the name of the branch (for

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Körner
Richard Fairhurst schrieb: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I also experienced the same issue when mapping in Italy. When I was in Germany, it was a completely different potlatch-experience and I was sorry for blaming potlatch in the past ;-) :) Potlatch is indeed quite sensitive to

Re: [OSM-talk] (no subject)

2009-08-04 Thread Jack Stringer
I would name it name=Elmers End Tesco, operator=Tesco etc, So if someone wanted to bring up a list off all Tesco sites they just seach the operators, but if you were doing a search for the nearest Tesco then the name will supply you with the details you need to find it. Its a PITA when you do a

Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO the highway-class is not about lines on the street, not even about width, these are all relative and dependant on local habits. It's about structuring your road-grid into different levels. From the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mount Obama (revisited)

2009-08-04 Thread Liz
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Steve Chilton wrote: It would seem that snurl.com short URLs are not copy-and-pasteable - well not from a tweet. So if interested here is the message with long URLs (thanks to those that pointed it out to me). mine defaulted to the last item I had viewed on osm etc

Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Liz
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: this I don't understand. thankyou for realising this. I can't speak for others in Au, but I've visited many countries in my young adulthood, as well as being born elsewhere again and I certainly know that roads in Australia are different to roads

Re: [OSM-talk] (no subject)

2009-08-04 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 4 Aug 2009, at 21:11, Jack Stringer wrote: I would name it name=Elmers End Tesco, operator=Tesco etc, So if someone wanted to bring up a list off all Tesco sites they just seach the operators, but if you were doing a search for the nearest Tesco then the name will supply you with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch vs JOSM

2009-08-04 Thread Liz
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Peter Körner wrote: (wrt Peter Körner's post, I think I'm going to write Botlatch, a script which will look for any mention of JOSM and reply Have you tried Potlatch? It's a Flash program which performs much better (IMHO) than JOSM etc. etc.) I'm sorry I wrote such a

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch vs JOSM

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/4 Liz ed...@billiau.net: Talking with my friends in Kosovo the laptops are underpowered and hang using JOSM the laptops are underpowered and hang using the browser and hence Potlatch the power supply is completely intermitttent the internet is also intermittent but better than the

Re: [OSM-talk] (no subject)

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Körner
I think name should be what the shop is called like (e.g. what stands on a sign on top / in front of it). If there are additional information like the operator it could be added via an additional tag but not as part of the name. Peter Shaun McDonald schrieb: Could you please give examples of

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Richard Mann
I'd agree that it should be importance for trunk/primary/secondary/tertiary. The stuff about not using trunk for single-track roads just doesn't match what people are actually doing (judging by some of the roads in the Western Highlands). The physical tends to align to the importance, but what we

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-04 Thread Richard Mann
Interesting - I've measured the widths of most of the main roads in Oxford, mostly at quiet times of day (easy enough with a wheely device - I wouldn't recommend tape). I do kerb-kerb. My inclination would be to put widths on nodes, since they are measured at points, but that might not be too

Re: [OSM-talk] (no subject)

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: I think name should be what the shop is called like (e.g. what stands on a sign on top / in front of it). +1 If a shop is a member of a larger group of shops belonging to a single chain, the suburb or branch name should

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/5 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: I'd agree that it should be importance for trunk/primary/secondary/tertiary. The stuff about not using trunk for single-track roads just doesn't match what people are actually doing (judging by some of the roads in the Western

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/5 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: Interesting - I've measured the widths of most of the main roads in Oxford, mostly at quiet times of day (easy enough with a wheely device - I wouldn't recommend tape). I do kerb-kerb. yes, that seems reasonable in urban context. Do

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread David Lynch
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 19:02, Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/5 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: I'd agree that it should be importance for trunk/primary/secondary/tertiary. The stuff about not using trunk for single-track roads just doesn't match

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/5 David Lynch djly...@gmail.com: no, I don't agree. A highway becomes motorway when it get's legally promoted to be a motorway (by the motorway-sign this is indicated). The USA has no such sign, nor do Canada and Mexico (AFAIK.) Do we have no motorways? Well I can't tell from personal

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Alex Mauer
On 08/04/2009 07:17 PM, David Lynch wrote: The USA has no such sign, nor do Canada and Mexico (AFAIK.) Do we have no motorways? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:I-95.svg -Alex Mauer hawke signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Richard Mann
Motorway is mainly physical. The point is that it most definitely isn't defined by importance. A motorway is the part of a trunk road that has grade-separated junctions, and is on a new alignment, or does by some other means keep slow traffic out of harm's way. My concern stands - beware putting

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Richard Mannrichard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: My inclination would be to put widths on nodes, since they are measured at points, but that might not be too helpful for renderers. But I don't think I really want to break a way every time I do a

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread David Lynch
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 19:31, Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/5 David Lynch djly...@gmail.com: no, I don't agree. A highway becomes motorway when it get's legally promoted to be a motorway (by the motorway-sign this is indicated). The USA has no such sign, nor do

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/5 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: Motorway is mainly physical. The point is that it most definitely isn't defined by importance. well, in nearly all cases the motorways will be the most important roads. Of course there are also other characteristics and a highly

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Richard Mann
My English was perhaps unclear. The discomfort is with using the same tag for two quite different road types (industrial estate roads and country lanes). Either would be fine on their own. The potential problem for renderers is that there's a lot less space to render things in urban areas, so

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/5 David Lynch djly...@gmail.com: That indicates that it's part of the Interstate system. Every highway on the Interstate system is a motorway-class (high-speed and grade-separated) road, but not every motorway-class road in the United States is an Interstate. There is no equivalent to

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/5 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: I wouldn't include parking bays if the kerb is built out around them. Generally I'd measure the running carriageway, but include any central islands. +1 The road I measured every 10m had widths varying between 7.7m and 9.3m over

Re: [OSM-talk] distinguishing urban streets from out-of-town WAS: definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I put this on a separate thread, as it is no more about the _main_highway tag definition 2009/8/5 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: My English was perhaps unclear. The discomfort is with using the same tag for two quite different road types (industrial estate roads and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Low-Res / Overview / Toplevel

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: If care is taken with the selection of places / names, such a map may become quite useful for geocoding. We want only the Paris. We want abbreviations like NY, as long as they do not lead to confusion. Sources of information include

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
As far as I have understood by reading English Wikipedia you have different classes (Freeway, Interstate, Numbered Highways) where at least Freeway and Interstate are motorways. Those seem to have unambiguous signs. May I suppose that I would not be allowed to ride my bike on any of these,

Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/4 Liz ed...@billiau.net: I would appreciate to have the same routing and rules allover the world, I don't believe it is possible I have been to different countries too, e.g. to Africa, and I don't think the road systems are all the same. I know that there is big differences. But this

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Richard Mann
Motorways and trunk roads jointly form the most important tier in the UK. Most countries seem to follow a similar pattern - motorways feed into non-motorway trunk roads to jointly form the top tier. Richard On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/5 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com: As far as I have understood by reading English Wikipedia you have different classes (Freeway, Interstate, Numbered Highways) where at least Freeway and Interstate are motorways. Those seem to have unambiguous signs. May I suppose that I would

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread David Lynch
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 20:13, Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/5 David Lynch djly...@gmail.com: That indicates that it's part of the Interstate system. Every highway on the Interstate system is a motorway-class (high-speed and grade-separated) road, but not every

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: The potential problem for renderers is that there's a lot less space to render things in urban areas, so they benefit if lower-order roads are distinguishable between urban areas (so they can be narrowed or

Re: [OSM-talk] (no subject)

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: If a shop is a member of a larger group of shops belonging to a single chain, the suburb or branch name should be added in a separate tag (not sure what). addr:city ? ___

[OSM-talk] Bing Imagery

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
I know google forbids it, but I haven't heard about MS/Bing... Have they disallowed use of their sat imagery or is it explicitly forbidden in their TCs? Just announced by Microsoft, a new round of imagery update for Bing Map (previously known as Virtual Earth): 41TB. From the blog entry: We

Re: [OSM-talk] (no subject)

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:19 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: If a shop is a member of a larger group of shops belonging to a single chain, the suburb or branch name should be added in a separate tag (not sure what). addr:city ? No, that is The name of the city as given in

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Imagery

2009-08-04 Thread maning sambale
I hope they do, they have several areas with high-res that are not covered in yahoo! in the Philippines On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:36 AM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: I know google forbids it, but I haven't heard about MS/Bing... Have they disallowed use of their sat imagery or is

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
as far as I know freeway require that there are no intersections and access is via ramp. but this independent from bike access. Know one example where freeway ends just for a single access without ramp and starts again after ~ 100m yes usually these interruptions are tagged as trunk. US 101

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Lester Caine
John Smith wrote: --- On Tue, 4/8/09, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: The potential problem for renderers is that there's a lot less space to render things in urban areas, so they benefit if lower-order roads are distinguishable between urban areas (so they

[OSM-talk] [RFC] highway=unclassified currently is too ambiguous, so here's my proposal to fix it.

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
Currently highway=unclassified is too ambiguous, and while there was a proposal to replace this with highway=minor this seems to have gone no where yet the same problem still exists. I'm proposing not to replace highway=unclassified but to clarify it's meaning to be one thing, that is it has

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: 'Urban' areas should on the whole be covered by 'residential' or 'service' in between the 4 main vehicle route tags. Although personally I'd prefer that motorway service roads were not grouped with 'industrial'. 'shopping' may

[talk-au] Coral Sea Islands

2009-08-04 Thread Ross Scanlon
Having seen that many are annoyed with this location showing up (I agree) and having read the wikipedia article on it. I've changed the place=country to place=state as it is a territory governed by Australia this more accurately describes the status. This should also mean it will not show up

Re: [talk-au] Trivia - Husband and Wife Team

2009-08-04 Thread Jack Burton
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 23:37 +1000, Nick Hocking wrote: Apart from Victoria and Albert does anyone know of an example where A Husband and Wife have both had roads named after them and that these roads intersect. At the risk of seeming obvious, a more modern example: Elizabeth Way

Re: [talk-au] Coral Sea Islands

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Having seen that many are annoyed with this location showing up (I agree) and having read the wikipedia article on it. I've changed the place=country to place=state as it is a territory governed by Australia this more accurately

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
I've shrunk the shields to about half size, but now the text is becoming unreadable. Anyone able to make suggestions on shield/text size etc? http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=11lat=-33.86947lon=151.05768layers=B0 ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: --- On Tue, 4/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/Freeways/M5/01.jpg 404 01.JPG just navigate to the directory and you get a listing i picked the first one -- BOFH excuse #257: That would be because the software doesn't

[talk-au] Beating mapnik into submission

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
I came up with this with a little bit of nudging from Liz in the right direction: http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=11lat=-33.86931lon=151.04979layers=B0 Also I didn't know Goulburn had a metro road system... http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=12lat=-34.72133lon=149.7431layers=B0 I'm still trying

[talk-au] Pacific and New England Highway interchange area

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
Someone has marked in a lot of roads, I assume from sat imagery, however they marked them all as highway=service. Also someone only half did the New England highway, I'm fixing it up still, again probably from low res sat imagery, even though they list the source as survey it doesn't look it.

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I have been to different countries too, e.g. to Africa, and I don't think the road systems are all the same. I know that there is big differences. But this doesn't explain why routing shouldn't work as long as you

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:53 AM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have any objection to highway=rural? Depends how you define it. If it's verifiable and exists only to describe the way, there's no objection from me. ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: highway=rural seems a logical choice. Perhaps just work out a semi-rigid definition, such as: Any road which is: a) Primarily boarded by land used for primary production and b) Exists primarily to provide

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Depends how you define it. If it's verifiable and exists only to describe the way, there's no objection from me. It would essentially replace the meanings on this page for unclassified and unclassified would then be used as the

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: This road would be tagged residential or unclassified if it was in a metropolitan or urban centre When rendered should be the same as unclassified and residential. I wouldn't reference another highway class, but instead I'd more

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I don't like that. 1) are you really suggesting using highway=rural for Other streets. Not generally through routes.? No, perhaps that was a bad example as I wasn't explicit. I would do this: No administrative

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: [ highway=rural means ] No administrative classification. Rural roads typically form the lowest form of the non-Urban interconnecting grid network. Anything non-connecting would be almost a service road? Sounds ok. But

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread b . schulz . 10
Never been further West than Parkes, I'm afraid. I guess this comes down to tagging what exists vs tagging intended use. For instance there are parts of the Pacific Highway which are 2 lanes but are tagged as trunk because they're the Pacific Highway and are therefore the most major road in

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:25 PM, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: I guess this comes down to tagging what exists vs tagging intended use. For instance there are parts of the Pacific Highway which are 2 lanes but are tagged as trunk because they're the Pacific Highway and are therefore the most

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: The situation you're describing of a major thoroughfare which is just a gravel road should probably be tagged as unsealed primary while roads of similar construction which exist so that farmers can get home could come

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds ok. But you would need to define urban. from dictionary.com: ur⋅ban [ur-buhn] Show IPA Use urban in a Sentence 1. of, pertaining to, or designating a city or town. 2. living in a city. 3. characteristic of

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:48 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Although the intended use is the first, urban=town/city, I very much doubt that there would be enough roads in anything smaller than a town to need a higher capacity version of a residential road. Ok with me. Someone

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. Clear enough. In other words, unclassified = quartary and below. If this goes ahead I look forward to the wiki pages being cleaned up accordingly... :) I'd update it now but that's bound to upset someone somewhere. I guess

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
While I don't feel it would be wise to alter the current wiki pages I made a proposal to try and sort it out indirectly. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway:rural ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Another Brisbane OpenStreetMap Friday meetup in two weeks

2009-08-04 Thread David Dean
Brisbane mappers (and other interested parties), I have arranged another OpenStreetMap meetup for Friday 21 August at Southbank after work. Come and meet OpenStreetMappers and maybe do a little micro-mapping of Southbank if you're up to it. The venue is currently TBA, but will probably be a

[Talk-br] Mapa do Rio Grande do Sul para Garmin

2009-08-04 Thread Rodrigo de Avila
Bom dia, Estou publicando os arquivos .IMG para dispositivos Garmin, do estado do Rio Grande do Sul, com dados do osm.org. Anúncio: http://www.avila.eti.br/2009/08/openstreetmap-mapa-do-rio-grande-do-sul.html Página de download: http://l.avila.eti.br/garmin-download Acompanhe as

[Talk-br] Tradução do osm.org

2009-08-04 Thread Samuel Vale
Olá, Enviei uma nova versão do arquivo de localização do http://osm.org para o trac ( http://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/16859 ). Além da tradução dos novos termos e pequenos consertos, a legenda (Map Key) foi traduzida e os exemplos de busca alterados para exemplos que retornam bons

[Talk-br] (Meio Off, ou não) Pedal explorat ório urbano: Humaitá, Jardim Botânico e Horto

2009-08-04 Thread Nighto
É exatamente assim que eu imagino mapping parties ciclísticas... Sent to you by Nighto via Google Reader: Pedal exploratório urbano: Humaitá, Jardim Botânico e Horto via Diário de Uma Mulher de Ciclos by Mulher de Ciclos on 7/25/09 Um roteiro pronto, meticulosamente traçado, caiu de bandeja

Re: [Talk-de] surface=paved (was: maxweight, hazmat, width und maxspeed map)

2009-08-04 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:26:03AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: wobei die Versiegelung bisher nicht in den Tags vorkommt, Pflaster (paved) gibt es je nach Unterbau und Beschaffenheit sowohl versiegelt als unversiegelt. Überhaupt ist Pflaster praktisch alles, von fast so glatt wie Beton

Re: [Talk-de] maxweight, hazmat, width und maxspeed map

2009-08-04 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:53:54PM +0200, Ulf Lamping wrote: Unterschiedliche quellen - muss mal sehen ob fuer 274 noch was schoeneres finde ... http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildtafel_der_Verkehrszeichen_in_Deutschland kennst du? Sind alles SVG die du dir entsprechend umbauen kannst.

Re: [Talk-de] maxweight, hazmat, width und maxspeed map

2009-08-04 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 03:16:55PM +0200, Mario Salvini wrote: http://maxspeed.osm.lab.rfc822.org *Dank dir von einer Karte träumt, die Anzeigt wo hgv=no angezeigt wird* :-D Dann mach mal shift-reload ;) Im moment noch rotes overlay auf der straße und blau dick drueber was im hgv value

Re: [Talk-de] Informationen zur Fahrradstraße im Wiki

2009-08-04 Thread Stefan Schwan
Am 2. August 2009 23:23 schrieb Garry garr...@gmx.de: Stefan Schwan schrieb: Unclassified war nie größer/bedeutsamer als Residential - beide haben ja gemeinsam, das sie eben keine Klassifizierung haben. Das eine hat mit dem anderen nichts zu tun. Auch ohne Klassifizierung gibt Unterschiede

Re: [Talk-de] Landratsamt will OSM

2009-08-04 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Garry garr...@gmx.de writes: Sven Sommerkamp schrieb: Nana, im Falle von Parkplätzen würde das wohl meistens auch ohne highways gehen. O.K. wir treiben es auch dort wieder auf die Spitze, aber unbedingt notwendig würde ich es nicht erachten. Das sind auch keine Wege über die man routen

Re: [Talk-de] Binäre .ovl-Datei nach GPX konvertiere n?

2009-08-04 Thread Sven Geggus
Stefan Leupers stefan.leup...@googlemail.com wrote: Leider können alle bisher gefundenen freien Tools oder auch MapSource das nicht lesen bzw. konvertieren. :-( top2gps Das erzeugt ein Format, das gpsbabel verarbeiten kann. Quellcode kann ich Dir schicken. Downloadlink im Netz ist

Re: [Talk-de] Erdrutsch in Nachterstedt

2009-08-04 Thread Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Michael Bemmerl schrieb: Ich hab' nicht nachgefragt. Hab gerade eine Mail hingeschickt. Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Binäre .ovl-Datei nach GPX konvertie ren?

2009-08-04 Thread Stefan Leupers
Hi Sven! Am 4. August 2009 09:43 schrieb Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de: Leider können alle bisher gefundenen freien Tools oder auch MapSource das nicht lesen bzw. konvertieren.  :-( top2gps Das erzeugt ein Format, das gpsbabel verarbeiten kann. Stimmt, das kann wohl auch das

Re: [Talk-de] WMS: Yahoo Sat Problem

2009-08-04 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Alles löschen, auch die Einstellungen. Dann alles neu laden und YAHOO aus dem Standard kopieren - nix hinzufügen. Mercator wählen. UTM Zone 33 klappt nicht überall in Dtl. und ist nicht für Yahoo geeignet. ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] WMS: Yahoo Sat Problem

2009-08-04 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Horst wrote: Ich versuche nun schon laengere Zeit das WMS Plugin zum Anzeigen der Yahoo Luftbilder zum Laufen zu bringen. Aber ich erhalte nur den Hinweis von Yahoo We are sorry the data you requested is unavailable.. Wenn ich in dem Menue des Plugin unter

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