Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 104, Issue 35

2013-04-24 Thread Christoph Bünte
> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:40:13 -0400 > From: Alex Barth > To: Talk > Subject: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: > contributor mark) > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello everyone - > > I'd love to start pushing again on the OSM at

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Christoph Bünte
> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:40:13 -0400 > From: Alex Barth > To: Talk > Subject: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: > contributor mark) > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello everyone - > > I'd love to start pushing again on the OSM at

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Coleman McCormick
I love where this is headed. As a developer that builds a business application making use of OSM as a base layer, we have hundreds of users all over the world that need high-quality base layer data for reference when conducting fieldwork, many of them in GIS / mapping departments with mapping ex

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Mike
I think the root of this issue is lack of strong OpenStreetMap brand, or, at least, lack of visual identity of the brand. Current OSM logo lacks necessary properties of good brand visual identification, and thus it is not used much. The most obvious problem is it is not usable - you cannot use

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread the Old Topo Depot
The proposed mark is very well suited as a replacement. It is simple, minimalistic, and works well on a variety of backgrounds. +1 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Mike wrote: > I think the root of this issue is lack of strong OpenStreetMap brand, or, > at least, lack of visual identity of th

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
John, On 04/24/2013 03:56 PM, the Old Topo Depot wrote: The proposed mark is very well suited as a replacement. It is simple, minimalistic, and works well on a variety of backgrounds. You wrote the above as a "+1" to a statement from Mike Cuttler that said What should be done first is es

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Liz Barry
+1 to Alex's original post -- the new attribution mark is well designed and versatile for its purposes. The shape of the folded map links the attribution mark with our logo. +1 spiffed up copyright page BUT the proportion of image to information "above the fold" still needs finetuning, as well as

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 24/04/2013 16:03, Frederik Ramm wrote: Are you therefore saying that what has been designed as an attribution mark should be our new logo, or are you saying that there does not have to be a likeness between the logo and the attribution mark? Let me add the following alternative : there has

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Kathleen Danielson
I agree wholeheartedly with Mike's points about the current branding around the project. However, as there has been generally positive feedback for the design of this attribution mark, would it make sense to move forward with using the attribution mark (since it addresses an immediate problem) and

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Liz Barry
I quickly put the logo side by side with the attribution mark. I feel it is clearly of the same family, linked by 1. the shape of the folded map 2. the color grey in the magnifying glass handle i uploaded the JPG to twitter -- https://twitter.com/lizbarry/status/327071379105120257 What do

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Simon Poole
Before we get in to too much bike shedding: the CWG (as essentially our marketing arm) has been asking for more help for a long time. Net we have had less and less volunteers there over time. The CWG would clearly be the place to engage in such a discussion. I'm not sure that "re-branding" would

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread the Old Topo Depot
I support moving forward as stated by Kathleen. It is also an opportunity to explore rebranding; and it's desirability; in more detail as a separate discussion. Best, On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Kathleen Danielson < kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree wholeheartedly with Mike's

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Kathleen Danielson wrote: > However, as there has been generally positive feedback for the > design of this attribution mark, would it make sense to move > forward with using the attribution mark (since it addresses an > immediate problem) Definitely. The perfect is the enemy of the good, and al

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark

2013-04-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 04/24/13 16:28, Kathleen Danielson wrote: I agree wholeheartedly with Mike's points about the current branding around the project. However, as there has been generally positive feedback for the design of this attribution mark, I think that the positive feedback is mainly because the new

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Marc Regan
Both the new mark and the copyright page look very slick. Clean, friendly, inviting. Great work! -- Marc Regan Cofounder, Mapkin (http://mapkin.co) On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Kathleen Danielson wrote: > > However, as there has been generally positi

[OSM-talk] Re : RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread yve...@gmail.com
I agree the logo is great, but not as an attribution mark. To me, the most important thing in the actual attribution is '& contributors' We should keep the text. Yves - Reply message - De : "Marc Regan" Pour : Objet : [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark) D

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Alex Barth wrote: > Hello everyone - > > I'd love to start pushing again on the OSM attribution mark. > Clearly. :-) I think that the idea is bad for OpenStreetMap. The logo is pretty. The logo is pretty and the idea is bad for OpenStreetMap. At the core, th

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM Baltics 2013 in Tartu Estonia

2013-04-24 Thread Vladimir Elistratov
Hi! The conference SOTM Baltics will be held in 3-4 August (Saturday-Sunday) 2013 in Tartu, Estonia. The conference page in the OSM-wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SOTM_Baltics_2013 Registration to the SOTM Baltics will be announced in this list as soon as possible. See you in Tartu a

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Paul Norman
The example notice for OdBL contents is “Contains information from DATABASE NAME, which is made available here under the Open Database License (ODbL).” This will always be acceptable as it is explicitly stated as meeting the requirements of 4.3. I can’t see any legal justification in the ODbL fo