Re: [OSM-talk] Is OSMCha down?

the new changesets. We are working on it. Thank you! Cheers, Jinal Foflia On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Michael Andersen <o...@hjart.dk <mailto:o...@hjart.dk>> wrote: It's not just you. OSMcha stopped picking up new changesets friday. On søndag den 10. december 2017 15.48

[OSM-talk] Is OSMCha down?

To check https://osmcha.mapbox.com/ I'm not getting any new changeset for the previous couple of days & the ones from the day before return errors. Anybody else? DaveF. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> wrote: On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote: For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this task". No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think there's anything w

Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote: For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this task". No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think there's anything wrong. Maproulette is based on guesswork. A task doesn't mean there's an error that

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission

I think it's 'a wait & see' until the final decision is made, but paying £80m over two years to buy something we've already paid for doesn't seem good value for money. DaveF On 23/11/2017 15:56, Gervase Markham wrote: This sounds... vaguely positive?

Re: [OSM-talk] finding overlapping buildings

Osmose has an 'overlapping building' option. Top of the list Note: Some building are drawn on top of eachother to produce 3D rendering of multi-storey buildings. DaveF On 21/11/2017 23:16, john whelan wrote: Can someone describe a method I can locate these in JOSM. I'm not after crossing

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 15/11/2017 12:15, Dave F wrote: I thought the French rendering showed an aligned zebra crossing, but it appears to have been rescinded. Anyone know why? Correction, it does. Two in fact. The grey zebra (uncontrolled & the man crossing a zebra to the left on Corn St.(traffic_sig

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 15/11/2017 11:25, Andy Townsend wrote: (somewhat belatedly, re crossings) On 02/11/2017 15:42, Dave F wrote: Apologies, forgot to permalink. Try: https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=20=51.3779057=-2.35836 Yes, the way these are shown is a bit rubbish. I'm assuming

Re: [Talk-GB] Prow_ref format

On 05/11/2017 12:42, Rob Nickerson wrote: >I recommended BY for consistency with the other two-letter >abbreviations (FP, BR, RB) that were more universal. +1 Given that there is little internal consistency within each LA and that these are rarely even marked on the ground, my preference

Re: [Talk-GB] Prow_ref format

Hi Comments inline. On 04/11/2017 20:07, Adam Snape wrote: Hi, I'm of the view that using a standard format would be rather unlikely to result in confusion in correspondence with the LA, but am equally happy with using the LA's version. Some thoughts: 1. We definitely shouldn't attempt

[Talk-GB] Prow_ref format

Hi I've started adding Prow_ref=* to the paths within my Local Authority. I've been using the format as decided by them. I noticed another mapper has already added a few, but using the format by Barry Cornelius at rowmaps.com. I think this shouldn't be used as it's Barry's own concoction.

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 02/11/2017 13:25, Andy Townsend wrote: On 11/02/17 13:02, Dave F wrote: It's great pedestrian crossings are rendered, but the icon gets swallowed by the road way. I'd probably need to see an example of that - any chance of a permalink? It's supposed to render on top (albeit small

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 30/10/2017 17:34, Andy Townsend wrote: On 30/10/2017 08:58, Nick Whitelegg wrote: As you may know, the plan is to produce a UK specific OSM mapping site. A start on this has been made here: http://www.free-map.org.uk/osmuk/ using a fork of SomeoneElse (Andy)'s cartography with one

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 30/10/2017 17:25, Daniel Koć wrote: "Although /forest/ is a term of common parlance, there is no universally recognised precise definition, with more than 800 definitions of forest used around the world." This is part of the OSM problem - It's been misappropriated as a verb to indicate

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 30/10/2017 08:58, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Would also be good to see a few suggestions for features. A few of mine; on the cartography side: - add contours (I have done this on Freemap so I should be able to figure out this) - hill shading (not had any experience of this though I know

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 29/10/2017 21:42, Warin wrote: And then when the trees are harvested in a forestry operation the tag natural=wood could be removed with the result that the land use would be lost.. Irrelevant, it could also be removed if it were landuse=forest. until such time as the tress grow again

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 29/10/2017 14:16, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 27.10.2017 00:49, Dave F wrote: The woods/forest problem is one of the worst tagging cock-ups in OSM. Indeed. The current mess is especially disappointing because it hasn't always been that way: The status quo is the result of an attempt to "im

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #379 2017-10-17-2017-10-23

On 28/10/2017 21:11, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: If that's the case, then he's doing it wrong. Let's take a simple example - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Derbyshire is supposed to be useful to local mappers and it should be easy to navigate to neighbouring counties. Unfortunately it

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 28/10/2017 22:02, Warin wrote: Maybe 'purposes' was a bit confusing, I see landuse=residential as a primary tag. Sub-tags are 'descriptive', 'adjective'. The 'cuisine' of a restaurant, or 'managed' for woods. for example. I see landuse as the primary tag, the values used with it are

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 27/10/2017 20:53, Warin wrote: On 27-Oct-17 08:25 PM, Dave F wrote: You appear to be differentiating based on size & location which, seeing OSM's output is visual & geospatial seems unnecessary. *All* groups of trees are 'natural' so there should only be one primary tag. All &

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 27/10/2017 13:00, Tomas Straupis wrote: Fine. Let's say in higher level there is only one "forest". Then my topic moves one layer down and stays exactly the same otherwise. What I'm talking is about virtual hierarchy. OSM tagging comes AFTER that. As I map & tag what I see in

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 27/10/2017 11:49, Tomas Straupis wrote: If we make no such distinction, then in order to be topographically correct, we would have to "cut out" (create multipolygons) for each small wood areas with 10 trees inside say residential area. Well, depending if it's a communal area or

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

You appear to be differentiating based on size & location which, seeing OSM's output is visual & geospatial seems unnecessary. *All* groups of trees are 'natural' so there should only be one primary tag. All "purposes" should be within sub-tags. DaveF On 27/10/2017 08:52, Tomas Straupis

[OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

(Split to a separate thread) The woods/forest problem is one of the worst tagging cock-ups in OSM. It's bad enough when alternate values are used to differentiate what is actually the same object, but in this case it's also the key! I think you'd be hard pressed to find any area of trees

[OSM-talk] Woods Vs Forests (Was Topology rules)

Started a new thread as it's gone of subject. DaveF. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Topology rules

Could you link to an example? DaveF On 25/10/2017 16:36, Gaurav Thapa wrote: "2. Buildings. If 2 buildings share a wall or are constructed one aside the other (double wall), you should have them connected in OSM as well." In Nepal we have been trying to make sure that each constructed

Re: [Talk-GB] pub defined as a relation

Oh Dear. I've always been hesitant to call out specific contributors by name, but user 'mentor' has been a repeated thorn in my side whenever he's (male?) 'contributed' in my locale. Those edits can, at best, be described 'assumptive' (either that, or he's widely travelled within the UK,

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

I've been putting it on the boundary as it covers the whole school which can include domestic science (or whatever it's called now) & the school fête barbecue as well as the canteen. In my LA they have pre/post school 'clubs' listed separately. I've been adding them as nodes within the school

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project: Addresses and Postcodes

On 19/10/2017 12:04, Lester Caine wrote: On 19/10/17 11:35, Adam Snape wrote: Doesn't its location within the UK make an explicit UK tag unnecessary? But when reading a single object tags do you know just where it is? Some other mechanism has to return the 'inside boundary' data which takes

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project: Addresses and Postcodes

Hi Occasionally, especially with businesses, extra 'bits' get added to make their establishment appear posher than it actually is. Looking at it's location you can see why. 'Next to the interchange' won't entice many customers. Where did you get that address? Their website shows it as:

Re: [Talk-GB] Oxford Railway Station

On 13/10/2017 13:54, Richard Mann wrote: More correct than it was. I'm struggling to believe that. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

It's both the splash screen & value for your created_by tag! DaveF On 15/10/2017 14:24, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Christoph, once again, what does Wikidata have to do with anything in this thread? Wikidata is a heated and important point, and just today I saw another great use of it -

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

Hi "this tool has nothing to do with Wikidata" "Currently, the tool creates two changeset tags: created_by=OSM+Wikidata 0.1" Am I confused by what you mean by "this tool"? DaveF On 15/10/2017 13:04, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Andu, with all due respect, you are misrepresenting things. I have

[Talk-GB] Oxford Railway Station

Hi Is there anybody familiar with Oxford Railway Station who could give it a check? A user has made some amendments that don't appear correct. It's a few years since I've been & I'm aware there was some redevelopment in the area so feel ill-equipped to decide what's correct. Items I've

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering kissing gates in OSM

The loss of colour on tertiary roads is one area where the style has become less friendly in rural areas. Indeed. The fading of paths (even those with surface tag) makes it difficult to view without zooming right in, is no better DaveF --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering kissing gates in OSM

On 10/10/2017 09:30, Bob Hawkins wrote: I wonder why kissing gates are not rendered in OpenStreetMap – certainly in the Standard version? Their installation in place of stiles in my part of South Oxfordshire is increasing apace thanks to the work of the Chiltern Society. Are they a

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

Unlikely, I'm sure, but you could have two brands with the same name on the same high street. Being antipodean doesn't define their differences. DaveF. On 27/09/2017 15:35, John F. Eldredge wrote: The spatial information will tell you where each business location is; it is not sufficient to

Re: [Talk-GB] Open survey on participation biases in OSM

Hi My Youtube history got cleared. Does anyone have a link the video of a woman giving a lecture about contribution discrepancies in open data projects. She used OSM brothels & childcare as examples. Ta DaveF On 04/09/2017 11:38, Zoe Gardner wrote: Dear OSM talk-gb subscriber I am a

Re: [Talk-GB] Teaching OSM

On 12/09/2017 17:39, Andy Townsend wrote: On 12/09/2017 15:01, Dave F wrote: On 10/09/2017 11:13, Jez Nicholson wrote: Is http://learnosm.org/en/ the best resource for a 1-hour beginners' introduction? I'm sorry, but mentioning "non-government organisations" in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Teaching OSM

On 10/09/2017 11:13, Jez Nicholson wrote: Is http://learnosm.org/en/ the best resource for a 1-hour beginners' introduction? I'm sorry, but mentioning "non-government organisations" in the *beginners* *introduction* in the *first* paragraph is laughable Know your audience. Most newbies

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

Sorry wanted to add this: With irregular shapes (crescent, for example) a check to see if the route is within the boundary & insert an extra node if required maybe be a bit more work but not impossible. DaveF --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

On 06/09/2017 12:33, James wrote: Not really, with a roundabout, you have a way you can follow. Where as an area, you'd calculate somewhat of the middle between the two edges to generate a path, as you can't just route on the boundary of the polygon as it might be unwalkable/doesnt make sense

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

Hi On 06/09/2017 12:27, Frederik Ramm wrote: If you only want to walk *around* the beach (or patch of grass) then with most routers that's simply a question of configuration ("allow walking on natural=beach", done). If the routers has the entrance node, they can navigate the perimeter &

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

On 29/08/2017 12:53, Philip Barnes wrote: This really needs routers to be able to route over areas, the same issue exists over large areas of grass such as found in parks or town squares. Yes. There appears to be a reluctance to develop this. 'It's not a part of our plans at the moment' is

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v2.4.0 released

Yes. A new contributor's first changeset count should be 1. On 26/08/2017 20:02, Bryan Housel wrote: Ok, I see what you mean.. Would it be ok if we just add +1 to the number before uploading the changeset? On Aug 26, 2017, at 2:17 PM, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> wrote: I

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v2.4.0 released

It does display the same number as is displayed on a user’s homepage, but that number is 0 before they have made any edits. It is a count of “how many edits has the user made before this one that they are saving right now”. As the contributor has just saved/uploaded the changeset, that

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v2.4.0 released

Hi What are the hashtags used for? Surely changesets_count should start at 1, the same as displayed on a users homepage? DaveF On 26/08/2017 06:47, Bryan Housel wrote: *iD v2.4.0* was released August 25, 2017 and is now available for editing on openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England 'states'?

Accurate *as possible* On 22/08/2017 13:59, Colin Smale wrote: That depends on your definition of "accurate", doesn't it? On 2017-08-22 14:15, Dave F wrote: But a query to the OSM database isn't interested in what 'locals' misinterpret, it's interested in what OSM returns. The

Re: [Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England 'states'?

But a query to the OSM database isn't interested in what 'locals' misinterpret, it's interested in what OSM returns. The ignorance of the person on the street is just one reason why OSM needs to exist & be as accurate as possible. DaveF On 22/08/2017 12:50, Andy Townsend wrote: On

Re: [Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England 'states'?

to agree a polygon with a sharp boundary of what constitutes a settlement with a given name. Most place=* polygons in OSM just follow the boundary of the built-up area. So I see a possible role for is_in - to help out geocoding where geometrical methods lead to an undesirable (though accurate) re

Re: [Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England 'states'?

communes. -- Andrew *From:* Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> *Sent:* 20 August 2017 22:57:06 *To:* Andrew Black; Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England '

Re: [Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England 'states'?

I will revert DaveF On 12/08/2017 22:39, Andrew Black wrote: On 12 August 2017 at 13:12, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com <mailto:davefoxfa...@btinternet.com>> wrote: Hi I'm unsure if Northern Ireland, Wales & England should be tagged as 'states'.

Re: [Talk-GB] Edits in Wales

On 16/08/2017 00:22, Warin wrote: On 16-Aug-17 05:27 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: The wiki is after all intended to document how people map not dictate how they should map. I would think that the wiki should guide to the best mapping method, not what people have done in the past (as found

[Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England 'states'?

Hi I'm unsure if Northern Ireland, Wales & England should be tagged as 'states'. A new user's changeset comment: Adding more info. is_in:country_code was missing. Also classified Northern Ireland as a state so it appears in the same priority as Wales. Was unclassified before

Re: [Talk-GB] Building that have been replaced

On 04/08/2017 12:11, Dan S wrote: 2017-08-04 12:04 GMT+01:00 Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com>: I'm pretty sure we've had this conversion before, where I pointed out OSM is not a historical record. If gone in the real world,it should be removed from OSM. If you wish to store out dat

Re: [Talk-GB] Building that have been replaced

I'm pretty sure we've had this conversion before, where I pointed out OSM is not a historical record. If gone in the real world,it should be removed from OSM. If you wish to store out date info, transfer it to Open History Map. Seeing OSM is a global endeavour it's disappointing you keep

Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

Hi Follow the wiki and tag the building -- unless the museum exhibits are in the grounds, e.g. https://museum.wales/stfagans/ Are you referring specifically to the museum wiki page? I suspect this has been written by someone who's understanding of a museum is of a single building in a

Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

Hi I would revert the boundary to tourism=museum & tag the building as building=museum. I would transfer the data which represents the whole area to the boundary, such as address & contact details, similar to schools and hospitals. Wheelchair tags should be on individual entities as access

Re: [Talk-GB] Live OSM discussion in ~45 minutes (7.30pm UK time)

What the !*&@ Just tuned in & they're talking about hostility & sexism?! Anybody know the usernsme of AndyHall? (The blonde guy in the broadcast) DaveF Who are these people? On 26/07/2017 18:45, Andy Mabbett wrote: I've just learned that this week's Wikimedia Research Showcase, streamed

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Summer 2017 July-Sept

I gave up updating bus routes after I was informed by Traveline they had no intention of using the data in OSM. I felt my time would be better spent on other projects. DaveF On 10/07/2017 12:51, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone This will be to improve bus route relations and station

Re: [Talk-GB] Shared Public Rights of Way

Then even more reason to check. You'd have thought the organisation responsible would want unique keys to avoid confusion. DaveF On 04/07/2017 13:44, Philip Barnes wrote: Parish councils don't have responsibility for the upkeep of rights of way, that is the responsibility of the local

Re: [Talk-GB] Shared Public Rights of Way

I think it's worth contacting the PCs. It's unlikely they both want to take responsibility for it's upkeep. DaveF On 04/07/2017 12:05, Bob Hawkins wrote: Ed I must not have made clear the situation: the bridleway is coincident with the borders of two parishes, carrying a route code for each

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering issues with Carto 4.0

Hi Is there anybody with more skill than I able to put a overpass routine for this? I prefer to check problems close to me than the randomness of roulette. Ta DaveF On 20/06/2017 10:24, Jochen Topf wrote: Hi! In the last days the OpenStreetMap Carto Style 4.0 is being deployed on the OSMF

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping archaeology in towns

From a quick check it appears she's also added them to OpenHistoricalMap http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/user/Syvanne%20Aloni/history#map=10/51.5232/-2.1934=H I'll wait a day or so, to see if she adds any more, then I'll revert her changesets from OSM. DaveF On 15/06/2017 11:52, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On 05/06/2017 22:55, Warin wrote: Threads, like conversations, drift Dave. And? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On 04/06/2017 23:07, Warin wrote: Why are people so reluctant to contact another mapper? It was a question about tagging techniques. Asking on forums with a larger user base than one seems appropriate. Where I am not certain as to a 'best' method of doing something .. then I contact the

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW changes

Hi 1. & 4.DMMOs, of course, have a process. OSM should only be interested in them once they been confirmed. 2. & 5. I'd be happy with them on paper. Their accuracy isn't great to start with & every iteration looses detail. Amending the route of paths is definitely not an armchair exercise.

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

Hi Alt_name is used for an alternative *official* name, such as a different spelling etc. In this case loc_name appears more appropriate to me. DaveF On 01/06/2017 12:59, Adam Snape wrote: Hi, Possibly JOSM does. I used iD for this simple change. Whilst alt_name does seem odd, so would

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW changes

from these? 2. What does OSMUK intended to do with the documents once it's obtained it? 3. If there is one, do all LAs issue under the same license? Dave F. On 29/05/2017 12:02, Brian Prangle wrote: There's been a suggestion that OSMUK lobbiesfor the statutory right to receive copies of the l

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

Yeah, but how many of them are useful? I spend far too much of my OSM time mopping up irrelevant, out of date & inaccurate info. Many notes are indicating locations which already exist such as building names & parks. What devices are being used which don't display this clearly? I wish I could

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse Farm

On 19/05/2017 12:22, SK53 wrote: We still have a very large number of place=farm, but I suspect these are much harder to resolve as many will be former farms which are now residential. Many, perhaps the bulk, of these have been added from OS OpenStreetView data. place=farm will be harder

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse Farm

On 16/05/2017 13:30, SK53 wrote: My experience is that roughly 5-10% of the polygons will be landuse=farmyard, and the vast majority landuse=farmland. Watch for farm buildings tagged with landuse though. To go with that there's the misuse of place=farm to represent a farmyard. DaveF

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

Apologies to Brian, who's clearly just passing on the message. On 12/05/2017 00:58, Dave F wrote: 1. Wouldn't it be better to sort out your trees first? 2. What does ref_unused_tags.name refer to? 3. Are there any out of date stations that need removing/changing to another operator? DaveF

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

1. Wouldn't it be better to sort out your trees first? 2. What does ref_unused_tags.name refer to? 3. Are there any out of date stations that need removing/changing to another operator? DaveF On 11/05/2017 21:36, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone There is a proposal for this import

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v2.2.0 released

hing for & clicking 'playground' the following popup is displayed half off the left side of the window, maing it impossible to continue. I'm using latest Firefox on Windows 7. I'm unable to test other browsers. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstree

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v2.2.0 released

Excellent, the radial menu's finally been removed! It always appeared precisely where I wanted to edit! I might start using it now. The walk-through is very intuitive. DaveF. On 09/05/2017 19:49, Bryan Housel wrote: *iD v2.2.0* was released May 9 2017 and is now available for editing on

[Talk-GB] 'Accessible Bath' contribution invite.

Hello all Bath:Hacked ^(1) have organized a community project: 'Accessible Bath' ^(2) to improve the mapping of accessible spaces and routes in Bath & surrounding areas, primarily using Wheelmap^(3) Contributors are already adding data^(4) , but B:H are also holding a public mapping event

Re: [Talk-GB] Open Litter Map now online

Hi On 24/04/2017 22:36, Seán Lynch wrote: Would appreciate some feedback. I hope you like it! I find the initial page very irritating. Are sliding, wobbly text blocks & images really necessary? You say it's a map, yet make it very hard to find. There's no mention of clicking the

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

.uk/disclaimer/disclaimer.aspx> *From:* Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> *Sent:* 24 April 2017 11:31:24 *To:* OSM Talk *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying Hi I'm unsure why go on about anyone b

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Hi I'm unsure why go on about anyone being "thrown out". I'm unsure why doing it inconsistently in the past in 'legacy' code is any reason for not trying to sort it out for the future. Programmers can reformat to any standard* of their desire /within/ their own program. It can't be hard to

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

list half-way through? I don't see what the latter would be for, in this case, so I'm wondering if I'm losing emails...! Thanks Dan 2017-04-22 16:23 GMT+01:00 Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com>: In this context I'm unsure what you mean by "interface standards" On 22/04/2017 15:

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

In this context I'm unsure what you mean by "interface standards" On 22/04/2017 15:45, Lester Caine wrote: On 22/04/17 15:28, Dave F wrote: As they're parameters, the format can be standardised for the end user & any programme should be able to sort out syntax behind the scenes.

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

As they're parameters, the format can be standardised for the end user & any programme should be able to sort out syntax behind the scenes. On 22/04/2017 15:15, Lester Caine wrote: On 22/04/17 14:19, Dave F wrote: It's to provide the numerous coordinates format for each of the prog

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

n 21/04/17 15:34, Max wrote: On 2017년 04월 21일 16:28, Dave F wrote: This is one of my OSM bugbears: http://osm.duschmarke.de/bbox.html Can't use this tool, because alt + mouse click moves the whole window in my desktop environment. Shift/Mouse works to zoom but no idea what the tool is supposed t

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Oh, agree OSM isn't unique, but considering it's a geocoded project, it's just embarrassing that coordinates can't be coordinated. DaveF On 22/04/2017 13:57, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: On 21.04.17 17:28, Dave F wrote: Hi This is one of my OSM bugbears: http://osm.duschmarke.de/bbox.html

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Looks a purely grammar problem to me. On 21/04/2017 15:41, James wrote: Could be for precision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_degrees#Precision On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com <mailto:davefoxfa...@btinternet.com>> wrote: Hi

[OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Hi This is one of my OSM bugbears: http://osm.duschmarke.de/bbox.html Is there /really/ any need for *six* coordinate formats? It's hard enough to learn a new process without basics like this tripping you up. Is there any reason why the developers of these programs can't talk to each other &

[Talk-GB] Quarterly project - Feedback to Food Standards Agency?

Hi A while someone said the Food Standards Agency were aware of the FHRS quarterly project & would welcome feedback or any errors. Did anything get formalised? I've a file of data for my area to pass on, but obtaining a contact within my Local Authority is proving rather difficult. DaveF

Re: [OSM-talk] Multi Polygon problem - could someone take a look?

...Or JOSM & OSM.org could interpret & list data accurately as perceived in the real world. Ta DaveF On 02/04/2017 20:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 2 Apr 2017, at 14:19, Andy Townsend wrote: Maybe we should ask the JOSM maintainers to add an "open

Re: [OSM-talk] Multi Polygon problem - could someone take a look?

On 02/04/2017 13:19, Andy Townsend wrote: Maybe we should ask the JOSM maintainers to add an "open in Potlatch 2" option to allow the full history to be seen :) Need to start with the OSM.org listing such amendments within changesets. DaveF --- This email has been checked for viruses by

Re: [OSM-talk] Multi Polygon problem - could someone take a look?

ent from a phone On 1 Apr 2017, at 23:22, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> wrote: I'm struggling to see how this isn't a fundamentally incorrect way for OSM/JOSM etc to interpret the data. If nodes are moved then ways are amended & should be listed as such to avoid confusion &

Re: [OSM-talk] Multi Polygon problem - could someone take a look?

Hi >Hence while the shape my have been drastically altered, the polygon way is still the "same" it has been since you touched it 2 weeks ago. You can see that in the history of the individual nodes. >Potlatch uses a slightly different data model where a way's nodes are integrated with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Multi Polygon problem - could someone take a look?

That resolved it, thanks. But how did the edit affect *all* nodes? Why didn't a changeset revert solve the issue? is this 'osmtools' publicly available or is it a self-written tool? Cheers DaveF On 31/03/2017 23:10, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 03/31/2017 11:29 PM, Dave F wrote: OSM's

[OSM-talk] Multi Polygon problem - could someone take a look?

Hi A polygon in a multi-polygon relation has got corrupted & appears to be orthogonalized. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/308393090#map=14/51.5352/-2.5523 OSM's & JOSM's history shows me (DaveF) as he last amender 2 months ago. Potlatch 1&2 show user ndm as the last one on the 28th at

Re: [OSM-talk] Export Tool Community Chat | 30th March

Is there a reason it's not discussed here? A forum with a record of what's said & not time restricted. DaveF. On 29/03/2017 04:07, Mhairi O'Hara wrote: Just a reminder that the Export Tool community chat

Re: [Talk-GB] Scotch Corner (A1 - J55) near Darlington

Sorry. Misread. Ignore, On 28/03/2017 15:16, Dave F wrote: Are you saying the tertiary route & roundabout is not valid? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/208077995#map=18/54.5/-1.67062 DaveF On 28/03/2017 15:07, Jones, Luke (KEU.FXT) wrote: Good afternoon, The above-mentioned junc

Re: [Talk-GB] Scotch Corner (A1 - J55) near Darlington

Are you saying the tertiary route & roundabout is not valid? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/208077995#map=18/54.5/-1.67062 DaveF On 28/03/2017 15:07, Jones, Luke (KEU.FXT) wrote: Good afternoon, The above-mentioned junction was amended last night

Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon source tags preferred method

Comments inline: On 27/03/2017 09:41, Jochen Topf wrote: Putting the sources on the objects has been deprecated for a while. Which wiki describes that? The source should be put on the changeset only. Apart from JOSM, which editors allow that? If you are doing edits that involve several

Re: [Talk-GB] Countryside access map

discussed numerous times, on numerous forums. Cheers DaveF. On 24/03/2017 19:08, David Woolley wrote: On 24/03/17 18:47, Dave F wrote: What will? Isn't this issued under OGL? I think the questions were being asked because the copyright owner and licence status wasn't known. If it has OGL

Re: [Talk-GB] Countryside access map

On 24/03/2017 18:30, David Woolley wrote: On 24/03/17 17:58, ael wrote: Is this copyright free? Under UK law, it will have, as a minimum, database rights for 15 years from publication. What will? Isn't this issued under OGL? DaveF --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast

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