It's not visible
as a specific class. And for the minority who will see it's thicker,
they will think it's based on a physical attribute (width or lanes),
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the warnings have been ignored. Maybe because the style developers
underestimated its importance (only 4 millions ways) ?
This is not a message to minimize the huge efforts and positive
improvements about this change.
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Who knows that this track was a railway from 1881 to 1961 ? why should
we keep any "railway" tag here ?
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or website talking about this shop. A "no-result" should raise an
internal alarm and a comment on the note (like "plz someone to survey
on the ground because I find nothing about this bakery in the web").
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> @Pieren: You switch topics so easily that I'm not sure what are you
> talking about precisely. Is your stance "Someone showed that it is
> easy to add fake notes, therefore we must assume that every single POI
> ad
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once we notice the vandalism. The same rule should apply for registred
users copying easter eggs based on copyrighted maps or fake POI's
based on notes.
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the notes are correct" is not good enough.
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e you refer is about another similar
project but different from the one discussed in this thread.
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visible in the country where it is organized. Your request and
arguments sound a bit too much US centric and will probably hurt a
large part of the community.
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What I'm sure is that OSM has many, many more important issues than this one.
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but could generate some frustration for those who don't care about
these goals (e.g addresses). Like the "net neutrality" for ISP's, the
foundation should promote "map neutrality" and not some datasets
required by specific applications (commercial or not).
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nin.openstreetmap.fr/free.org/osm13.openstreetmap.fr/index.html
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description uses the
OSM primitives vocabular "node", "way", "relation" where the "area" is
mixing them. It could be improved by saying "point" instead of node,
or "linear" instead of way (until the area becom
hway.
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> As this is a difference it is marked as red (=different).
Strange, I don't see this on googleMaps from France. And this street
is also a minor residential road in the official highway
classification (IGN Route 500 - which is a souce we are allowed to use
but i
d,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes
wow! Partial import ? Vandalism ?
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sing your matching
results but it should be reviewed when this tag is corresponding to a
wikipedia article.
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e + admin_level=9. The question
now is if your wikidata entry is about the settlement or its
administrative boundary or both...
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[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/240056815
[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3680169
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ons could be then found in
wikidata is telling me the opposite : it will surely not call people
to contribute in OSM but rather directly in wikidata !
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y WAS already functional for years. Would
> it be possible to get the old browsing and history pages back, at least until
> someone comes up with an improvement?
Maybe not a rollback but clearly, the current version is a downgrade
compared to what we had before (at least for those
a building : if it's a simple polygon, I
don't use relations. If it has a courtyard, I create a multipolygon
relation. In other words, it's not because some buildings need a
multipolygon relation that we should create a multipolygon relation
is that we
find ways belonging to 10, 15 or more relations... and sometimes for
identical routes since it is out of control.
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ould say the opposite. Excepted perhaps for ways
with multiple refs, these relations are just used as categories :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories
"We do not, however, create relations that simply collect a loose
group of somewhat related
ntially, all tag pages may contain such "mistake"
sections.
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Simone Cortesi wrote:
> your email address has not been disclosed.
We received the same report in our local list in France. Is this
message a spam or a real study ?
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o bring some information or point out mistakes,
not general comments about how slow the crowd is filling the geodata
in a big area.
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ot;notes" did not exist at the beginning of OSM when whole countries
were blank and someone adds a note "here is the capital missing" .
omg.
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`transaction_with_deadlock_handling'
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Some humaniterian team is using a drone for OSM in Haiti since 2 years:
http://cartong.org/project/communautary-mappinguav-project-haiti
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UAV-HAITI
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the global community to work together and identify
what is working globally and what can be different locally.
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On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Christian Quest
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> In my last overpass test with the new "out center" feature, it looked like
> it was working only with XML output, not with the JSON (not GeoJSON) one.
It's already reported:
https://github.com/drolbr/Overpass-
e can render and read on a map all
types of access conditions and combinations. It's like all surfaces
values. If someone needs the details, then keep that on specific
applications.
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change in the future" (which is basically all
imports, including PD sources with attribution). We cannot speculate
on what (if any) will be the next license.
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tribution.
Or in a similar way you consider imports and by honesty, inform the
current contributors that if they don't accept to remove the
share-alike in the future, they should stop now.
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I would suggest to remove the diary feature
completely.
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quiring their students to edit OSM as part of a course
I hope not. How can we have on one side a (foundation) group trying to
reduce barriers for newcomers and on the other side a group increasing
bureaucracy for newcomers and their teachers ?
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names is a new paradigm where OSM becomes an encyclopedia. But OSM is
not Wikipedia. And if you want to see the list of events and previous
names of a place, it's easier and enough to read the wikipedia article
about this place. One tag "wikipedia=*" instead of do
One suggestion : temporarily replace it by the "shame of the week"
with a screen shot of the application or website using OSM without
attribution ;-)
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s and railways, railways
and rivers, etc
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rn out to be non beneficial to OSM. It's a similar reason why I believe
> IRC isn't helpful.
>
The transit tagging schema is universally known as a success story ...
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Again, it's an iterative concept. New contributions increase the
quality. What is not acceptable is that new contributions decrease the
level of the mapping (excepted in some cases I could develop)
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> not okay.
At least, new contributions shouldn't decrease the quality.
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On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Fernando Trebien
wrote:
When I cannot use JOSM for any reason, I'm still using P2 to retrieve
the history of an object and P1 is the only one I know which is able
to find and display deleted ways. Two helpful features for data
maintenance.
P
Someone is mapping the UK floods in OSM (reported on twitter):
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/258412163
Very bad idea.
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For those who think that SSL is protecting privacy:
http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/12/how-does-nsa-break-ssl.html
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On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Murry McEntire wrote:
> "Street cabinet" has no meaning in my region.
He's talking about something like this (but outdoor only):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure_%28electrical%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Electricalenc
tred but don't exist physically excepted on a named
postbox.
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you don't find it in the wiki". Here is another evidence that web
designers don't like wikipedia and wikis in general. Surely, the wiki
is far from perfect but hiding the documentation will not decrease
newcomers frustrations.
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tly created by
> mapquest from proprietary data: http://mapq.st/IxufcH and the image to the
> right shows 3D-elevation contours, something that OSM doesn't offer or
> provide.
For sure, contour lines are not part of OSM but it makes nice images.
It'
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:50 AM, James Mast wrote:
The page has been moved yesterday and restored yesterday as well. But
surprisingly, the page history is lost... A mediawiki bug ?
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is for 24174 place names. Probably the easiest
is to remove the int_name tag completely.
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bright' for the most recent to 'gloomy'
or 'dark' for the oldest ones.
My 2 cents,
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e "community driven" section is talking about "engineers" and HOT
team but the average contributor, you know the one who is not an
engineer neither a remote armchair mapper in Africa or Asia, is not
mentionned even though it is the main part of the community.
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e current or
> not.
Good point. Since it is not "verifiable" 92% of the time, it has
nothing to do in OSM.
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ound in France (mainly
contributed by Germans), all coming from last year and, of course,
never maintained (e.g. obsolete opening dates).
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BTW, wrong list !
[1] http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/
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pport "super-relations".
And you should better ask such questions on the dev@ mailing list.
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quot; only with physical separators which is not the case here
until the individual booth. Vehicles can switch from one lane to the
next at any time.
>I'm surprised someone with your OSM experience needs to be reminded
> of this.
We will say it's
I will not reply on the question if tagging lanes is correct or not in
this example. But I can say that tagging each lane with
"highway=motorway" + "lanes=1" is incorrect and seems to be "tagging
for the renderer" (just to sh
ions
(and only relations) being in the same timezone.
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ing real with a sharp line (e.g. mountains strings, valleys). So
no, you cannot say that OSM can be a garbage collector for all data as
soon as you can draw them on a map.
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On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Dominik George wrote:
> [1]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:timezone
It's even easier to add the tag on existing countries relations. No
need for extra ways, neither tagging on ways.
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een in my life used the
coastline. It does not mean that the sovereignty stops at the water
line. It's just a convention.
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soundtracks from 2 presentations (after ~15sec)
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usands buildings. You will have sometime
the building tag on ways, sometimes on relations. Having the tag
always on the surrounding way is more consistent and easier to catch
for everybody, including newcomers.
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in your country, then we
can talk here about how we can represent this system into OSM. I'm
sure they are plenty of organizations around the world who can help
defining such systems for developing countries. Until then, the
suggestion from Bryce to use "reference poin
t behaviour on OSRM (or any
similar routing engine) might completly correct or wrong.
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"motor_vehicle=yes" to open the routable track in OSRM...
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osrm-talk/2013-June/000158.html
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osrm-talk/2013-June/000149.html
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> because they don't render Surface and Smoothness tags.
Forget smoothness. Subjective tag.
ban smoothness = good ;-)
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community present on irc for instance or an iD chat room would also
help a lot.
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' in OSM if it
would be easier to restore the element and its history. We have since
the beginning an unbalanced power of anyone who can be destructive but
restoration is only possible from advanced, skilled users which is a
limited resource.
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went to the real database. That's why imho, a pop-up showed only one
time on the first save action warning that this is modifying the real
map data would be sufficient.
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when I see that moving a node is
simpler than moving a way, but that's a detail.
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> "social platform life".
Yes, but it makes a big difference if those platforms can be showed as
'opt-in' by default, and not 'opt-out' where I have to do some actions
to hide them.
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I understand the read access but not the write access.
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fter the
save action. Is OSM still an open data project mainly driven by open source
applications ? Are we really moving to the commercial side of the internet
? I have no words to express my shock (I have but it would censored).
Please, move that away from the main site. Keep it on your local
or something like that.
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On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Christian Quest
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> Users can already decide in their profile, so we're talking more about
> a "default by default"...
better say "the default for newcomers"
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mailing lists, 5 irc channels, 13 forums, 8 foundation working
groups reports, all pull requests discussions in github/osm and the
videos of the last SOTM, it's really your fault :-)
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, the use stats are
painfully low. The best I would suggest now is to keep both wiki pages
as proposals, linking to each other and wait a year or two to see in
the stats the winner (prefix vs no prefix).
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(and we
already had freeform tags like "note" and "description"). The current
"validated" wiki description is fine because it is well defining a
limited list of cases and explains the local context (linking to the
UK Tagging Guidelines).
So, they
main mailing list and tagging
list archives about the "vote" process on the wiki. This will tell you
more than anything on the wiki about the process of establishing new
tags in OSM.
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On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Dave F. wrote:
> OK, so anyone know if this Cameroon area is actually imported? It seems
> surprising for them to have done a survey of every tree.
You should ask this person:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2013-April/001914.html
ogrammers love (I'm one) : admire my work or provide
patches or shut up ;-)
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new contributions. Which means that we
should gum out the map from time to time just to build a new community
of contributors when the previous one consider the job done or is
exhausted ;-)
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e on their first contact with an OSM editor. Risk is that they
leave the project for a long time. A good first experiment with old P2
is better than a bad one with the new iD. And this is temporary
anyway. I'm sure that FF and iD developers will fix quick
Map
contributors" is surely the best solution but this mark is surely better
than nothing !
I would even appreciate if the license could be changed and define the
attribution in text or mark as mandatory on maps.
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be renamed as the "about the project" and not
"copyright". And are you going to adopt the twitter format for all pages in
the future (520px wide) ?
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messages breaking email threads and disturb all other readers and their
email clients handling lists. So please, do it in your ML preferences.
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outdated outlines. As said, it is not a map feature, it's
just for some comfort during edition (would consider the same for mapping
party cakes). What was the "easiest and most pratical solution" can be
tolerated if it is temporary or unti
josm plugin :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Imagery-XML-Bounds
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:53 PM, sabas88 wrote:
Any reason why this application is requesting an access to the phone
status and identity ?
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> Or better, if there is a junction=* and name=*. Except when junction=no.
+1
Like the dozen "building" or "bridge" values. The wiki says
"junction=yes" which is the easiest.
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Named roundabouts is also ordinary : "junction=roundabout" + "name=*"
So "junction=yes" + "name=*" looks a bit strange but it's by far
better than a "highway" key on nodes and more consistent with other
junctions tagging.
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I'm just asking myself what will be the reaction of the OSMF if they
receive a C+D letter from Kim Jomg-un asking to withdraw all geodata
of North Korea because it is forbidden there.
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duce the text display size in your browser
My browser works usually fine, thank you. It sounds a bit strange to
change the text size just for osm.org . Now we have a huge contrast
between the font sizes on the map and the html text.
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t for those not using
retina or xtra full widescreens, it's not an improvement.
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http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Cartotheque
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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Kate Chapman wrote:
> So for example crowdsourced infromation, volunteered geographic
> information, non-authoritative data, or something else?
Crowdsourced non-authoritative geographic data ?
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already noticed in OSM, what is a "recommended" a day can
quickly become "mandatory" the day after.
Personnaly, I don't see the advantage to rename 1 millions tags
without any gain or just because 12% of them are not besides the
highway.
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