Re: [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

Hey everyone, Just a question which no one seems to have addressed - is there any evidence that Go is actually using a *feed* of OSM data, rather than just a one-off dump? It's really rare, IMHO, for anyone to bother with a feed for a project like this - so much easier to just get a planet extra

Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > There are many businesses where you can't go and buy something, but still > they should be in OSM. Think of a car manufacturer, you can't go there and > buy a car. > Yeah but the difference is a manufacturing plant has a big physical

Re: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin Spam

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > However, in the case at hand, it seems that the interest is not to > improve OSM but instead we're just a vehicle for people to show up on > >the "coinmap", a business directory for bitcoin-accepting businesses. I don't think we should worr

Re: [OSM-talk] Who interprets semicolon in tag values?

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, NopMap wrote: > The original example wasn't mine, but I think it is very common that a pub > has much later opening hours than a restaurant. Having both as part of the > same enterprise is a british speciality if I remember my visits correctly. > > And mapping the

Re: [OSM-talk] Slow TileMill rendering - Postgres using 1 core?

postgres. > Plain vanilla Mapnik is not doing more than one postgres query at a time > (not multithreading queries). > A patch made by mappy allows mapnik to multithread its pg queries. Are you > using the exact same version of Mapnik as before ? > > > 2013/8/25 Steve Bennett &

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org - some numbers

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:36 PM, SomeoneElse wrote: > In an attempt to put some numbers to to the "errors made by new mappers" > debate, I've done a count-back of new users and editors that they use for > they area that I keep an eye on in the UK (England and bits of Wales, not > including bits th

[OSM-talk] Slow TileMill rendering - Postgres using 1 core?

Hi all, I'm running TileMill on an 8 core Ubuntu VM with 32GB of memory, on an OpenStack cloud. Recently, my VM was destroyed, and I rebuilt it (identically, I thought) on slightly different hardware (same cloud, but different physical infrastructure). The new build is much slower at rendering -

Re: [OSM-talk] Bringing new life to the OSM.org front page

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Finally, a few other things to note: > > * With over 1 million registered users it is impossible to please everyone. > Please put things into perspective before replying with negative comments. > Also consideration of the amount of developmen

[OSM-talk] "Application error" at openstreetmap.org

-- Application error The OpenStreetMap server encountered an unexpected condition that prevented it from fulfilling the request (HTTP 500) Feel free to contact the OpenStreetMap community if your problem persists. Make a note of the exact URL / post data of your request. This may be a proble

Re: [OSM-talk] source=Google

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > What do you propose to do with source tags found on an object when you > modify this object based on a different source? Speaking for myself, I either replace it (if I'm replacing virtually all the geometry) or supplement it: "source=g

Re: [OSM-talk] iD, exclusive use of tags

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Right now when you click on "other" in this menu, the other tag that is > considered "principal" by iD gets silently removed (e.g. if you click on a > highway on "other", the highway-tag is removed). Yeah, this was/is a limitation of

Re: [OSM-talk] What to do with failed (Potlatch) save changeset?

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > The couple of times I've encountered this situation, I've manually edited > out the conflicting element and then used upload.py to upload it to OSM. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Upload.py That worked, in the end. The python2 ve

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > Just a further data point. As of the end of last month we had edits from > 324'152 unique UIDs, not quite 30% of all accounts (some of the > changesets are likely to be empty, but the number is still quite a bit > larger than the often quoted

Re: [OSM-talk] What to do with failed (Potlatch) save changeset?

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > The couple of times I've encountered this situation, I've manually edited > out the conflicting element and then used upload.py to upload it to OSM. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Upload.py Excellent, thanks. I'll try that. Ste

[OSM-talk] What to do with failed (Potlatch) save changeset?

While trying to save a changeset in Potlatch2, I got an error message about version conflicts, and was left with a big chunk of XML. Potlatch appears not to be able to do anything with it, but maybe I can still salvage something from it. I put it here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/767553/OS

Re: [OSM-talk] Imagery Boundary?

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Dave Sutter wrote: > Creating another instance of the OSM database and server is a very > good idea. I would propose we make the purpose of this database to > allow people post ANY geo data that is NOT part of the base map. It > would be an open database for general

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, yvecai wrote: >> - could it be more obvious which is the start of each (downhill) run? > > Unless there a tag on the node, it would be hard. Emphasizing each way start > node wouldn't be nice, as pistes can be made from several ways. Well, you can already compute g

Re: [OSM-talk] Imagery Boundary?

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > I think this boundaries can be useful, but should be in some other database. Are there any other appropriate databases? That is, something with the same form (an OSM database) for stuff related to the OSM project, but not containing actual O

Re: [OSM-talk] Imagery Boundary?

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Pieren wrote: > It's not only for outdated outlines. As said, it is not a map feature, it's > just for some comfort during edition (would consider the same for mapping > party cakes). What was the "easiest and most pratical solution" can be > tolerated if it is temp

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:56 AM, yvecai wrote: > Pistes informations with a single clic:No more 'vector mode'. Lighter, > better compatibility with browsers. > > Search for pistes by names:Nominatim results are augmented with a selection > of ski pistes and lifts. > > Multi-modal routing and elevat

[OSM-talk] Osm2pgsql/TileMill - how to detect whether way is in a route?

Hi, I'm trying to render a mountain bike map with TileMill. Some trails are in route relations, eg: 3xWay: highway=path, mtb=yes 1xRelation: type=route, route=mtb, name="My Cool Trail" Osm2pgsql converts those to 4 rows: the relation is the complete trail. What I want to do is not render any w

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > effect on rendering time. I guess I can further decompose these db > queries (#landuse, #leisure...), but is there anything else I can do > to speed them up? Is this normal? Ok, yes, that's apparently what you need to do -

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

layer invisible had no effect on rendering time. I guess I can further decompose these db queries (#landuse, #leisure...), but is there anything else I can do to speed them up? Is this normal? Thanks again for any information, Steve On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > Hi

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > On Jueves, 28 de febrero de 2013 09:57:34 Steve Bennett escribió: >> Nice. Couple of questions about how to avoid certain of those traps: >> 1) How do you control multithreading? It looks like I'm getting access &

Re: [OSM-talk] (Off topic) Apple hiring OSM contributors in Australia?

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Gregory wrote: > Why hire *away*? As noted by the OP, this story is indeed completely off-topic, and has nothing to do with OpenStreetMap. Apple's maps team is hiring new staff. To pitch this as some kind of head-hunting attack on OSM is...creative. Steve _

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > On Miércoles, 27 de febrero de 2013 12:03:30 Steve Bennett escribió: >> I'm having some problems with TileMill rendering very slowly. > > I suggest to have a look at Dane's slides about "How to make slo

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:09 AM, AJ Ashton wrote: >> (eg, is [zoom>13] { #ways[...] } slower/faster than #ways[...][zoom>13] ?) > > Does your layer setup actually looks like this? ie. one 'ways' layer pulling > in the entire planet_osm_ways table? If so this will be problematic. Unlike > MapCSS, f

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Tom MacWright wrote: > TileMill is not designed for that kind of application (running as a live > server with no cache), though it will work 'a bit'. > > So: it doesn't do caching - you'll want a cache. Look at CloudFront, nginx's > cache, varnish, squid, and so o

[OSM-talk] TileMill performance

Hi, (First - is this the right list to discuss using TileMill? I can only find the MapBox support form, or gis.stackexchange.) I'm having some problems with TileMill rendering very slowly. Sometimes it seizes up altogether, until I restart it or reboot the server. This seems to happen particular

Re: [OSM-talk] How to obtain a small coastline polygon for TileMill?

Thanks - that's perfect. I hadn't noticed the SRS box. Works great now. Steve On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:03 PM, AJ Ashton wrote: > > On Feb 25, 2013 11:22 PM, "Steve Bennett" wrote: > >> 5) openstreetmapdata.com's land/sea polygons >> (http://opens

[OSM-talk] How to obtain a small coastline polygon for TileMill?

Hi all, I'm learning TileMill with a project to render my home town of Melbourne, which is on the southeastern coast of Australia. The only problem I'm having is the coastline. I've tried a few things, and nothing has really worked: 1) The default 'countries' shape that comes with TileMill - not

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > I don't think separating rock music venues and concert halls is a good idea. > They are basically the same thing, a big room where music is played. Agreed. There are too many tags as it is. Excessive distinctions causes a lot of pointless h

[OSM-talk] Which renderer for high quality, printed cycle map?

Hi all, We'd like to produce a high quality bike map, to be printed. I'm looking at the various renderers and wondering if anyone has a recommendation? Requirements - looks good (eg, labels on wiggly labels aren't too wiggly, some ability to avoid label clashes) - customisable rendering (MapCSS

Re: [OSM-talk] Being more like Wikipedia (was: OpenStreetMap Future Look)

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I'm very much an outsider to Wikimedia but if I look at how much money they > have spent on development and how little has changed for the contributing > user - adding a table to an article is practically as difficult now as it > was five yea

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

a theme.) Steve On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Jo wrote: > I wanted to tell you a few days ago that OsmAnd does all you want. Maybe > write a small manual page for it, for the subset of features your users > need. > > I didn't do it then, hoping somebody else would have a

[OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

Hi all, I'm looking for a recommendations of mobile apps to recommend, for people visiting rail trails in Australia. What we* need is: Must have: 1) It has to be simple to use. There are lots of powerful apps like OSMand, Locus etc, but they're incredibly complex, with lots of features we don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Shoud OSM Help move to Stackexchange community?

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Dan Dascalescu wrote: > What do people think of moving this OSM help to the Stackexchange community. > I think that benefits would be tremendous, better marketing, possible new > users would see this great project and all other positive things that could > help boo

Re: [OSM-talk] Final results "lost mappers" task force

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > From an original 1014 contributors in the first group a total of 495 > agreed, resulting in a nearly 50% success rate. Of the 2nd group of 959, > 362 agreed, giving a success rate of 38%. There was naturally some > acceptances in both groups tha

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-based tool to create own maps with points and lines?

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Pavel Melnikov wrote: > I need a hint to find a web-based service for creating maps (say, travel > logs with visited POIs, routes, tracks and whatever or advise someone what > route to take to a given destination) which uses osm data as background > layer, with the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMapWidget

Well, the "create a placemark map" works nicely :) Although I really expected to be able to just click directly on the map, not have to push the button first. I can't wait to see what you come up with for "create an advanced map". I've been wanting something to replicate Google's "my places" for a

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

We'd be vulnerable to exactly the same kind of attack, right? Do we have any mechanisms to detect or prevent it? Steve On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Toby Murray wrote: > Hmm I seem to recall a stnav company accepting speed limit information > from users and then having the problem that peopl

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: > Ok, they don't name us, but I think "a leading open source map" does refer > to us. > > I think the most interesting part of this is actually direct criticism from our comm

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycleways and Access tags: Left, Right, Forward, Backward?

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 1:02 AM, wrote: > My concern with right / left is that some may think "ok we drive on the > right side of the road so it must be cycleway:right" (similarly left for > countries such as the UK that drive on the left side of the road). A quick > look on TagInfo reveals: > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence status in Potlatch2, and data deletion?

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Presume that's Melbourne, Australia rather than the nice little Derbyshire > town ten miles down the road from where I am now. :) But yes, I can go to > Melbourne and see that way 4308541 (for example) is 'partial'. It could be > that you

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence status in Potlatch2, and data deletion?

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Steve Bennett wrote: >> The "show licence status" in Potlatch2 is no longer working for me. > > Works fine for me. You might just have hit a temporary WTFE outage. It's been like this for at least a

[OSM-talk] Licence status in Potlatch2, and data deletion?

The "show licence status" in Potlatch2 is no longer working for me. Also, could we have an update on what is happening with data deletion? Thanks, Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] handheld gps unit

What do you want to use it for? What's your budget? What features do you need? Any special requirements? etc Steve On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:20 PM, kenneth gonsalves wrote: > hi, > > what are recommendations for a handheld reasonably priced gps unit? > -- > regards > Kenneth Gonsalves > > > __

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline Update

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > There are no significant multi-square flooded or dry areas. The following > areas have significant number of error points: > > Pudget Sound in Washington State > The mouth of the Columbia river in Washington > The Eastern Australia coast Speak

Re: [OSM-talk] Calm down, dear

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > jumped on. And the licence change... oh my lord. Rather than accepting and > offering help to the kind, generous guys who are actually committing vast > amounts of time and branepower to get it done - and maybe we'll hit 1st > April or m

Re: [OSM-talk] Database Rebuild scheduled to start on the 27th of March 2012

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > I think that date is very unlikely to be met. I sincerely hope they don't even try. This is an entirely self-imposed deadline with no external drivers at all - let's take our time and get the best result possible. Steve __

Re: [OSM-talk] Way with only one single node

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > xybot does not help its cause by having the same ticket for Potlatch 1 and > Potlatch 2 (which are entirely different codebases and have different > components in trac). When someone identifies reliable steps to reproduce in > P2, we try

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

> > There's nothing keeping one from applying the Tiles@Home lowzoom process to > a slight variation of our standard Mapnik style however, and out comes this > (for zoom levels 0-8; from z9 on, the standard Mapnik style looks fine): > > http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/lowzoom/ I love it. Austral

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about Incentives to contribute to OSM

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Dominik Wilmsen wrote: > You might not be sick of nonsense survey authors requesting our > personal information to "study our project".  You might even be > tempted to reply and to fill in their survey. Whee

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Questions from a Journalist

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:05 AM, wrote: > However, there is a journalist who has seen the BADMAP and said: I was a bit confused by this email - are you talking about a hypothetical journalist, or has this actually happened? Steve ___ legal-talk mailin

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What happens on April 1?

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > 1. Any timing is terrible, so why not do it now. Well, no. A cutover that loses 5% of data is clearly worse than a cutover that loses 4% of data, and so on. > 2. We have no obligations to Foursquare; they have made a business decision > in t

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

Replying to a few messages at once here: Toby Murray: > On the other hand, this license change has been ongoing since before I > joined the project and drawing it out even longer is going to be > painful too... IMHO, the pain is over and done with. The decision is made, and the decliners have, by

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > If this actually happens, it will be by far the stupidest thing OSM > has ever done. But maybe I'm misunderstanding the meaning of that > phrase about "database rebuilding"? Since I'm getting some off-list snark

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Joseph Reeves wrote: > Presumably the good folks behind the license change will say that any > short-term damage to OSM caused by removing data is outweighed by the > benefits of a new license; the ODbL even, possibly, makes data > exchange with these 3rd parties mo

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

So at the risk of pointing out the obvious: aren't we about to start purging data from "decliners"? Last I heard, we're "begin[ning] the process of database re-building and hope to complete by 2012-04-01". Are we about to start inflicting maps with big holes, missing roads etc on these big sites th

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:15 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Here in the USA, highways commonly have signs stating the distance to the > next major town.  Are such distance signs no longer used in Australia? Yes - usually abbreviated to just one or two letters, eg "MB 40" might mean 40km to Mt Beau

Re: [OSM-talk] Printed map books

Hi Paul, I asked about this a while ago on the thread "Generating a street directory from OSM?" and got some good answers. Some relevant links that came up: http://code.google.com/p/townguide http://www.townguide.webhop.net/ http://www.maposmatic.org Steve On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Pau

[OSM-talk] Typo in Trac "browse by components" fixed

Hi, Just noticed that on the browse by components page (http://trac.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmComponentReports), every link had a typo. eg http://trac.openstreetmap.org/query?status=new&status=assigend&status=reopened&component=potlatch2&order=priority should be http://trac.openstreetmap.org/q

Re: [OSM-talk] No map rendering at www.openstreetmap.org, in Chrome.

Oops - I meant to post back. Clearing the cache worked for me - will report if problem comes back. On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Ciprian Talaba wrote: > I don't know if it's our case but I have a similar problem when I'm > using the StumbleUpon extension in Chrome and try to navigate to > opens

[OSM-talk] No map rendering at www.openstreetmap.org, in Chrome.

Hi all, When I go to openstreetmap.org at the moment, I'm just getting a big white box with nothing inside it, instead of a map. I had this recently, and clearing cookies helped, but not now. I see the "permalink" and "shortlink" links, but not the plus button to change layers. I'm getting this i

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > But to be honest I'd prefer for tile-making to migrate more into the hands > of users so they can choose whatever style they like, rather than everybody > making (different) demands on our showcase cartography. ... > This guy is clearly mista

Re: [OSM-talk] Transition to CC-4 instead of destroying data

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Henk Hoff wrote: > Changing to ODbL or CC4 (possibly in the future) does not change the > presence of the Contributor Terms. Is it possible to migrate from CC3 to CC4 without CTs? Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@open

Re: [OSM-talk] OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:11 PM, 80n <80n...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2) Post-process the diff files to change the id of any new elements to a > negative value.  This is simply a matter of multiplying the id by -1 if the > element's version attribute is 1. Naive question here: so the OSM copy ends up w

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Anthony wrote: > +1.  While I'd rather see these objects go away altogether, I think a > tag of "name=Melbourne;Geelong;South-Central NSW Area;Central Victoria > Area" on a closed way implies that this closed way represents an area > called "Melbourne;Geelong;Sout

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Stephen Hope wrote: > Particularly in this specific case, as nearmap coverage can't be used > to derive OSM objects any more. The same mechanism is used for Yahoo, Bing etc coverage. Yes, it's debatable whether meta-objects should be stored in the OSM database, b

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > It's always been the case that names sometimes get rendered for objects that > haven't been rendered, because the names are produced by separate rendering > rules and trying to attach to those rules a set of filters which match the > set of obje

[OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

I'm not sure if this is a recent change (or I've just noticed it), but it seems that tags that don't contain anything recognisable to mapnik other than a name are getting rendered: http://osm.org/go/uG42g@6EB-- That "Melbourne;Geelong..." label is on a way that defines the edge of the Nearmap imag

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Combined bicycle & footway

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > I could see some benefit to splitting the tag into two - say, > highway=cycle for "bikes only", highway=cycle+foot for "bikes and > pedestrians" - and doing (whisper it) a mass change along country lines. But then you lose the distinctio

Re: [OSM-talk] Combined bicycle & footway

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Tomas Straupis wrote: >  Is there a reason for this or simply nobody has fixed that in mapnik > stylesheet (currently bicycle blue is rendered on top of footway red > making red part invisible)? The whole cycleway/footway thing is a long-standing debacle. Much of

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal superseded_by tag for ID stabilisation

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Gregor Horvath wrote: > I am not a native English speaker, so if new_id is better than > superseded_by than I vote for new_id. > > Regarding the added semantics I am very cautious. Because it will be > impossible to model all semantics of ID meaning changes that pos

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal superseded_by tag for ID stabilisation

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Gregor Horvath wrote: > ** re-mapping of stuff in the course of the license change >   - re-structuring of relations >   - 0.7 area data type (lots of existing areas get a new ID) > >   superseded_by tag That's an interesting use case - let's say A describes a cert

Re: [OSM-talk] Id stability

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I think you are again making the mistake of mixing various layers of > meaning. If someone deletes an object in OSM to trace it anew, from better > imagery for example, then he is creating a new model, and the old model > ceases to exist. It

Re: [OSM-talk] Id stability

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > And to Steve Bennett ("people need a solution now, not vapourware") - > sometimes settling for a half-baked solution too early has the risk of > entrenching half-bakedness and never getting around to implement a good >

Re: [OSM-talk] Id stability

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Relying on numeric IDs is never going to work, and there is no way how this > could be made to work in the future. IDs are OSM internal identifiers and if > you use them for anything external then you're lost. If your definition of "work" is

Re: [OSM-talk] Blatant case of tagging for the renderer

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > No - his ways are parallel to the actual paved and unpaved roads. They were > added solely to make the words render. (The road is from the 2007 TIGER > import.) I'm not judging him; I just find it amusing. Has anyone come up with a propos

[OSM-talk] construction=cycleway rendering on Mapnik

Hi, I'm not sure when this changed, but just wanted to say that it looks great. Example here http://osm.org/go/uG3kTdl8 Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Id stability

3) Why people intentionally destroy ids, and whether there are better ways of achieving their goals? (I seem to recall someone explaining that sometimes objects are deleted and recreated in order to discard the change history, particularly for large relations.) It would definitely be valuable to

Re: [OSM-talk] Detecting deleted data?

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:28 PM, André Riedel wrote: > You can use the OWL-Map (OpenStreetMap Watchlist). It shows all > changes in a given area. Thanks both. Looks like the problem is some faulty memory. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap

[OSM-talk] Detecting deleted data?

Hi all, How does one go about finding out if there used to be data in a certain area? My memory may be faulty, but I seem to recall that there used to be ski lift and trail data here: http://osm.org/go/uMQEXjno--. But at the moment there isn't. The "history" button doesn't seem to be useful - it

Re: [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Anthony wrote: > Really?  Whatever happened to "Bold, Revert, Discuss"?  In my > experience a revert of a bad edit is a pretty common thing on > Wikipedia.  It's not until you get to re-reverts or re-re-reverts that > offending someone becomes likely. That works f

Re: [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > This is however orthogonal to the changeset-based messaging that I have > suggested. If I want to say something about a specific changeset, it should > be possible to attach my comment to that changeset instead of having to make > a general l

Re: [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I was thinking of voting up or down contributions, and yes, this could also > lead to league tables that identify people with consistently problematic > edits; but that would not be because of who they are, but because of what > they do. May

Re: [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Also, in case this hasn't become clear, I am not in favour of +1/-1 buttons > for *contributors*, but for individual *changesets*. Well, until you start compiling them into a league table of least-liked contributors. Which, erm, you proposed

Re: [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > 1. a facility where I can comment on the perceived usefulness of a > changeset; > > 2. a facility where I can click a "thumbs down" or "thumbs up" in case I > particularly like or dislike the change; > > 3. a league table showing the most lik

Re: [OSM-talk] Hitting reset on talk-au

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Toby Murray wrote: > I'm guessing it has to do with this? > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2011-July/008350.html Yeah, I suppose. Although I'm at a loss to understand how imposing moderation on a mailing list that clearly has a problem with unc

Re: [OSM-talk] Hitting reset on talk-au

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:10 AM, David Murn wrote: > In one foul swoop, Richard has destroyed my interest in OSM.. 5 years of > mapping contributions, code contributions, discussion contributions, and > we get treated like this.  I have deleted all my accounts, all my > subscriptions, and am in t

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Hitting reset on talk-au

Hi Steve, As often happens lately, an interesting post has quickly been swallowed up into an angry cacophony. That's why the reasonable people, if there are any, don't post. > I've been trying to find someone to moderate the list along the Etiquette > guidelines on the wiki. Mikel has given up,

Re: [OSM-talk] Mailing list moderation

I, for one, welcome our new moderator overlords. Seriously, I'm very glad this decision has been taken, and I hope we can use it to lift the level of discussion. Steve On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > After careful consideration, effective immediately Mikel Maron, Andy > Ro

Re: [OSM-talk] Flash cookies

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Markus Lindholm wrote: > But there's no need to store them on the client, as all users have to > log in the preferences can be stored server-side. Atleast I throw away > all cookies when I close the browser. So out of curiosity, the proposed law says it's ok to st

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Cartinus wrote: > 1. How many people are too incompetent to understand the initial announcement. One thing you can generally say about communication is that when communication fails, blaming the receiving party gets you nowhere. If an ad campaign fails, you don't

Re: [OSM-talk] What is ad hominem and bad faith

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:50 PM, TimSC wrote: > Thanks for responding. I moved this to a different thread as it is getting > on to a new topic. I tried to sort the conversation in to chronological > order so we can see the relevant parts. How about we move it to the bin. There's plenty of materia

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say "yes" to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > In my opinion, changeset-based sources also make it clear which edit was > using which source. For example, since good Bing imagery has become > available, I've developed a habit to trace the buildings in an area from > Bing, then go out and

Re: [OSM-talk] Something between a changeset and a comment

Is there a way you can contribute the data to Factual, or Needlebase, or one of those other data sharey platforms? They have good tools for visualising data online. Steve On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > Dear All, > > Have you ever wondered about a changeset comment from a

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Kothic JS - a full-featured JavaScript map rendering engine using HTML5 Canvas

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > The time to get a map is on the order of 5-8 minutes for me... 5-8 minutes?? For me, it's more like 10 seconds. Opera, on a university internet connection. I'd be interested to know how much time it's taking to retrieve the data, compar

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say "yes" to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:00 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > You can also put this information in the change-set-comment. IMHO this > is where this belongs to. AFAIK the source-tag is disputed and it is > recommended to use the changeset comments. Source is disputed? By whom? I've never heard an

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say "yes" to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > I've been away for a while. But it seems to me from reading the terms > that I can't say yes to them in good faith, not because I don't want > to, but because I remember I derived a few things from external > CC-BY-SA, and I can't n

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