Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse and transit map

2016-12-17 Thread Warin
On 18-Dec-16 01:54 AM, Rob Nickerson wrote: Two good maps worth a share: http://osmlanduse.org/#12/-1.96569/52.50985/0/ Would rather see 'Landuse' and 'landcover' as two separate maps. For instance the Wollemi National Park, the Putty State Forest (landuse features) are all covered by a

Re: [talk-au] Trail deletions just outside Wagga Wagga

2016-11-28 Thread Warin
On 29-Nov-16 08:50 AM, Warin wrote: On 29-Nov-16 05:26 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: Hi all, I commented on the discussion on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43618845 a while back, but didn't get a reply. It's like just a local mapper tidying up what does and doesn't really exist

Re: [talk-au] Trail deletions just outside Wagga Wagga

2016-11-28 Thread Warin
On 29-Nov-16 05:26 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: Hi all, I commented on the discussion on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43618845 a while back, but didn't get a reply. It's like just a local mapper tidying up what does and doesn't really exist, but might be worth someone having a look

Re: [Talk-GB] Somerset Levels

2016-11-25 Thread Warin
If you think that the data must be 100% accurate you will have a blank map ... therebe dragons. The world standard for 1 kilogram mass is an artefact (a physical object) in Paris. You might think that it is 100% accurate and you'd be wrong. The surface corrodes, gets dust on it .. that

Re: [talk-au] Yellow Creek Road

2016-11-22 Thread Warin
Cannot find a 'Yellow Creek' in that area. Possibly the creek has been renamed (possibly to 'Cooks Creek' now?), then the road. I have come across a road that has carried a 'new' name for some years on maps ...yet the sign off the main road was only changed some months ago. So it may just be

[talk-au] Changes to Australian Tagging Guidelines

2016-11-19 Thread Warin
Hi, I have changed the AustralianTaggingGuidelines https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines On the Access roads on public land - made simpler - what to do first, caution

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Warin
On 02-Nov-16 08:16 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Michał Brzozowski wrote: The rules for routing appear to be mostly global for popular routers. There is very little magical sauce, if any. I wouldn't say that. Obviously the demo instances for OSRM and GraphHopper use their own vanilla profiles,

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-01 Thread Warin
On 02-Nov-16 09:40 AM, john whelan wrote: Obviously if I select bicycle it won't use motorway or footway but in general which highway types are used? Some motorways and footways are used by bicycles ... access can be signified by the tag bicycle=yes. Highway=road is avoided by some as it is

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-01 Thread Warin
On 02-Nov-16 10:57 AM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: The rules for routing appear to be mostly global for popular routers. There is very little magical sauce, if any. You can try many routers from osm.org main page. OSRM, for instance, avoids track at all times, unless access=destination (or more

Re: [talk-au] New to open street maps, looking for advice to get started

2016-10-27 Thread Warin
On 28-Oct-16 12:45 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 2016-10-28 11:38, Daniel O'Connor wrote: and finally if you find yourself running out of stuff to map; consider data collection via Mapillary or OpenStreetView. LOL. If you run out of things to map there's about 16,000 osmose issues to deal

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

2016-10-24 Thread Warin
I would use the 'Open Data from official sources' to confirm the 'on the ground' public signage. A conflict should lead to further investigation/thought. On 25-Oct-16 10:45 AM, john whelan wrote: A very interesting comment, considering the lengths we seem to go to to avoid importing Open

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

2016-10-24 Thread Warin
On 25-Oct-16 01:01 AM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: I, for one, think that hunting areas don't really belong to OSM. Or at least benefits are outweighed by problems. OSM was initially aimed at mapping streets. Do not limit the development of OSM in any direction! IF someone wants to give an

Re: [Talk-GB] access:psv

2016-10-13 Thread Warin
On 14-Oct-16 05:22 AM, Gregory wrote: I agree with what Chris says. I continue mapping with the tagging scheme I use until someone messages me as a discussion. By ignoring current usage (regarded with more reverence than the wiki) your consumption will potentially miss new data that mapper

Re: [Talk-in] Export Particular area

2016-10-13 Thread Warin
There are things many to think about. Firstly OSM data is public .. if you make changes and save them to OSM they will be public - that is part of the conditions of OSM. You could make changes and save them to your local storage - not to OSM .. that would be 'private'. However any updates to

Re: [Talk-GB] Location: High accuracy mode on android

2016-10-09 Thread Warin
On my Android phone I can set the GPS on, WiFi off ... in the pull down settings menu. This avoids any issues with wifi errors in their location and copyright. I normally use a dedicated GPS receiver, the phone is a backup and as I normally use it as a simple phone I turn off both WiFi and GPS

Re: [OSM-talk] Local guidance for finding places (Insarro, Ethiopia..)

2016-10-03 Thread Warin
On 04-Oct-16 10:23 AM, Ben Discoe wrote: There is a popular local restaurant which says on its website, "Many ingredients and spices are brought directly from the town of Enssaro in Ethiopia" Curious, I looked for this town in OpenStreetMap. Nothing exists with that spelling, Ask at the

Re: [OSM-talk] Strange location reading

2016-09-28 Thread Warin
On 28-Sep-16 04:44 PM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: On 27.09.16 21:51, John Eldredge wrote: This past weekend, I made a long road trip. At one point, while in a highway rest stop, I checked Google Maps to see how far I had come. To my surprise, it showed me at a different rest stop, about 200

Re: [OSM-talk] non-temporary usage of highway=road

2016-09-27 Thread Warin
On 27-Sep-16 05:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 27 set 2016, alle ore 08:07, Simon Poole > ha scritto: Use of it, IMHO, doesn't really make sense at all any more, particularly if you have imagery available, a

Re: [Talk-GB] Users tagging Farmyard as place=farm (Was Summer quarterly project)

2016-09-14 Thread Warin
On 14-Sep-16 09:08 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Andy Townsend wrote: ** many "names" on OS OpenData aren't names at all (for example, search for "poultry houses" in OSM and you'll get lots of things "named" that). On the hillside above the Crawnon Valley (up from Llangynidr in the Brecon

Re: [Talk-GB] Summer quarterly project

2016-09-14 Thread Warin
On 14-Sep-16 09:53 PM, Dave F wrote: The only conclusion to fear of adding data, by any means, due to it going out of date, is to not add any data at all, and I'm pretty sure no of us want that. Dave F. Yep. If a pub has no beer then people won't use it, a pub with beer that has gone

Re: [Talk-in] Classification of Indian places

2016-08-26 Thread Warin
I too, have raised this same subject on the Australian list and I have seen it raised on the UK list with regards to Scotland. I think the population being used to determine the OSM place classification works well as a first iteration. What is being determined here is not the official, legal

Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

2016-08-15 Thread Warin
On 8/15/2016 7:03 PM, Colin Smale wrote: Hi Will, Fully agree with you. I also tried to contribute to that changeset discussion. If you hadn't reverted that admin level change, I would have... Some of his ideas are on his diary pages [1] and my admin boundary page [2]. Colin [1]

Re: [talk-au] Mapping Military bases

2016-08-13 Thread Warin
On 8/13/2016 5:56 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Sat, 13 Aug 2016, at 03:02 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: G'day all Question that may have been raised before (BTW, is there any way of searching the list archives, apart from looking at every thread in each month?). Do we have an Aussie policy

Re: [talk-au] Australia "changing coordinates"

2016-08-02 Thread Warin
On 8/2/2016 3:37 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: WGS84 is a datum fixed; as in dated 1984 and the data does not change. I'm not sure that you've understood exactly what a semi-dynamic datum is. Have a read of this: http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-1142/paper6.pdf particularly sections 3.4 and 3.5. I'm

Re: [talk-au] Australia "changing coordinates"

2016-08-01 Thread Warin
On 8/2/2016 1:57 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: It's interesting because it highlights one of the foundation myths of OSM; which is that it uses the "WGS84" co-ordinate system. This is a convenient myth and if you're talking about only mapping to the nearest 5m then it is in effect true. However,

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 109, Issue 22

2016-07-30 Thread Warin
g> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Talk-au digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1

Re: [talk-au] Australia "changing coordinates"

2016-07-30 Thread Warin
On 7/30/2016 1:57 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, at 08:40 AM, Warin wrote: The change, distance wise, is upto 1.5 metres, well within commercial GPS uncertainties. The change is to the datum. How this will work out with future global datums we will have to wait and see

Re: [talk-au] Australia "changing coordinates"

2016-07-29 Thread Warin
On 7/29/2016 10:40 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: See you when you reach England ;-) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36912700 But seriously: what impact might this have, on OSM? Very little! The change, distance wise, is upto 1.5 metres, well within commercial GPS uncertainties. The

Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass API in English

2016-07-27 Thread Warin
On 7/27/2016 5:06 PM, David Woolley wrote: On 26/07/16 19:59, Roland Olbricht wrote: DaveF has pointed out before that the word "attic" may be difficult to understand. Attic is a term that comes from the RCS revision control system. I would have thought that it was a well known

Re: [talk-au] Competing relations - similar areas.

2016-07-26 Thread Warin
of parks/state boundaries ... and the trees don't stop there. So there is room for 'improvement' of the wooded area. I'm experimenting with JOSM plugin scanaerial to gain an automated clickathon of the wooded/unwooded areas... not much luck there so far. On 7/25/2016 1:06 PM, Warin wrote: I have

Re: [talk-au] Competing relations - similar areas.

2016-07-24 Thread Warin
forests) but should therefore not be used for national parks. If I've made any errors, please correct them - now and any other instance. Thanks. On Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 09:32 AM, Warin wrote: Hi, I have noticed there are two relations with similar areas and both tagged landuse=forest

[talk-au] Competing relations - similar areas.

2016-07-24 Thread Warin
Hi, I have noticed there are two relations with similar areas and both tagged landuse=forest. Relation5929494 created by down12under changeset 37053382 2/7/16 source given as 'aerial imagery', later edited by cleary and TheSwavu. Relation 5929493 created by down12under changeset 36918772

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia

2016-07-17 Thread Warin
On 7/18/2016 5:31 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: For info, I've just finishing reverting the remaining nodes from these imports. The last one was https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/40792543 . As previously mentioned upthread, many of the objects had already been removed but some of the nodes

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-14 Thread Warin
On 7/14/2016 7:14 PM, Éric Gillet wrote: 2016-07-14 6:12 GMT+02:00 tuxayo >: On 13/07/2016 09:25, Éric Gillet wrote: > I will summarise what course of action I think would be appropriate to > follow : > > * It's not clear

Re: [OSM-talk] What pointing device you use for mapping?

2016-07-13 Thread Warin
I have not used a graphics tablet .. yet. They are popular with graphic artist I believe. However I have used a fair few track balls, mice and touch pads. Touch pads have gotten better over time, their buttons though do ware out rapidly! Mice .. very much second choice to a good track ball.

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-11 Thread Warin
On 7/11/2016 11:45 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 11 lug 2016, alle ore 14:01, Éric Gillet ha scritto: I agree that survey are that on-premise survey is the best review method. But then you are adressing armchair mapping as a whole

Re: [talk-au] Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-11 Thread Warin
By this definition opening bing imagery and 'importing' a single roundabout, a track, a building outline etc would each need to be compliant with the import guidelines. On 7/11/2016 5:27 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: From the opening paragraph: "Importing (also known as Bulk Importing) is the

[Talk-GB] shop=sports and sport=* rather than shop=sport and sports=*

2016-07-10 Thread Warin
Hi, Apparently 'someonelese' wants local discussion on this. There is documented discussion on the wiki that puts the case and I don't feel the need to repeat it here. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsports I think using the sport=* tag means you have the same tag for both

Re: [talk-au] Legal access to Public land ...

2016-07-06 Thread Warin
g specific to Australia? Tony On 7/5/2016 9:13 AM, Mark Pulley wrote: On 2 Jul 2016, at 3:30 pm, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 7/2/2016 9:26 AM, Frank wrote: OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed on 1 July 2016 by Swanilli to say that the publ

Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of "sport" from recreation grounds, adding fixmes (was sport=soccer not sport=football.)

2016-07-06 Thread Warin
On 7/7/2016 10:32 AM, Warin wrote: On 6/13/2016 5:55 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: As a bit more background to this, see the changeset discussion comments on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39809705 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39812846 . I got a reply re "footba

Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of "sport" from recreation grounds, adding fixmes (was sport=soccer not sport=football.)

2016-07-06 Thread Warin
On 6/13/2016 5:55 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: As a bit more background to this, see the changeset discussion comments on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39809705 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39812846 . I got a reply re "football vs soccer", but not about any of the other

Re: [talk-au] Legal access to Public land ...

2016-07-06 Thread Warin
On 7/5/2016 9:13 AM, Mark Pulley wrote: On 2 Jul 2016, at 3:30 pm, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 7/2/2016 9:26 AM, Frank wrote: OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed on 1 July 2016 by Swanilli to say that the public has a legal right to

[OSM-talk] OSM wiki page descriptions of sports tags

2016-07-02 Thread Warin
Hi In the OSM wiki pages of sports there are 2 main types of descriptions present; 1) sport=filed_hockey description: Field Hockey https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dfield_hockey The description is simply the name of the sport, with no additional information. 2)

[talk-au] From the Australian Wiki page possible simplification of comments on the access tag

2016-07-02 Thread Warin
Hi, On the Australian tagging guidelines wiki page there are various comments on the use of the access tag. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Access_roads_on_public_land The present content is, to say the least, confusing and may give the wrong impression.

Re: [talk-au] Legal access to Public land ...

2016-07-01 Thread Warin
On 7/2/2016 9:26 AM, Frank wrote: OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed on 1 July 2016 by Swanilli to say that the public has a legal right to access public land ... No! The NSW NPSW do legally exclude the public from certain areas and at least vehicles from

Re: [Talk-GB] How to mark something as closed

2016-07-01 Thread Warin
a) If you delete it from the data base ... then it is possible for someone else to reenter it into the data base ... b) do something else... yes! leave it in the data base so if someone else comes along and wants to enter something there .. they can see what has been there in the past.

[talk-au] Touch football

2016-06-29 Thread Warin
Hi, There looks to be an increasing number of formally marked out fields for 'touch football'. As other people use the same term for other sports (touch 'rugby' is normal here in NSW, but touch OZie rules? and possibly others .. American football?) I think possibly the tag

Re: [OSM-talk] NASA sites

2016-06-27 Thread Warin
On 6/28/2016 1:52 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2016-06-27 17:32 GMT+02:00 Ethan Nelson >: I would agree with leaving NASA out of the name=* tag as we similarly don't name Fort Meade as ''United States Army Fort

Re: [talk-au] GNAF (address) data re-visited

2016-06-27 Thread Warin
On 6/27/2016 10:00 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: On 26 June 2016 at 13:36, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: But I already am dragging the chain in a few areas .. post offices and libraries from the LPI for instance. Then there is camp sites, tourist information offices.. In my o

Re: [OSM-talk] Need to revert a bunch of changesets

2016-06-26 Thread Warin
On 6/26/2016 5:06 PM, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi Robert, Am 26.06.2016 um 06:10 schrieb Robert Helvie: I don't know about any other edits the user has made, but the ones in the Sejong area really should be reverted. It is a shame, because the other data they add such as names and address info

Re: [talk-au] GNAF (address) data re-visited

2016-06-25 Thread Warin
On 6/26/2016 10:11 AM, cleary wrote: Thanks to Simon and Andrew for your responses which I now understand. Can I now follow-on and request clarification about other data from data.gov.au - for example the sources listed in the wiki for Queensland Local Government Areas and QLD Suburb/Locality

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia

2016-06-24 Thread Warin
On 6/25/2016 9:12 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: Ok, reverting the FIX SOURCES changesets in progress, it could take a while to finish, it's been running overnight and still going. 40207793 40207001 40206754 40206373 40206195 40206035 40205790 40205709 40205378 40205189 40204886 40204783 40204680

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia

2016-06-24 Thread Warin
On 6/24/2016 11:59 AM, Andrew Davidson wrote: I've just noticed that this user: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aaronsta has been busily importing a number of Landgate data sets into OSM. The problem is that these are licenced under these terms:

Re: [OSM-talk] Failed water proposal reversal

2016-06-22 Thread Warin
On 6/22/2016 4:17 PM, Tomas Straupis wrote: My question/proposal was about what to do with failed proposals in general. That is: 1. How to identify a "failed" proposal 2. What to do with it My proposal for point 1 is: If after say two years new schema does not get at least equal tagging count

[Talk-GB] sport=soccer not sport=football.

2016-06-12 Thread Warin
This arises out of my edits targeting sport=football and trying to resolve these into a 'good' value. 'SomeoneElse' suggest this should be discussed here. Well ok. The discussion may disintegrate into 2 things - 'soccer is an Americanism' and 'football is common usage'.

Re: [OSM-talk] ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?

2016-05-31 Thread Warin
On 6/1/2016 7:18 AM, Richard wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 07:01:07PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2016-05-31 15:03 GMT+02:00 Richard : often enough I get messages from people saying that drawing a bridge or culvert for every minor highway/waterway crossing causes

Re: [Talk-in] Railway station GPS co-ordinates

2016-05-16 Thread Warin
Hi, a better way ? with this query, you immediately have a CSV file as output. Use thishttp://overpass-turbo.eu/s/gdp or copy the query below tohttp://overpass-turbo.eu/ [out:csv (railway,station)][timeout:25]; // gather results ( // query part for: “railway=station”

Re: [talk-au] place equals what BY features

2016-05-13 Thread Warin
imum has; a convenience store On Fri, May 13, 2016, at 07:11 PM, Warin wrote: On 5/13/2016 11:36 AM, Warin wrote: On 5/6/2016 9:51 AM, Simon Slater wrote: On Thu, 5 May 2016 10:10:35 AM Ian Sergeant wrote: 1. Any attempt to make something render on sparse parts of the map, is a rende

Re: [talk-au] place town subject and Download

2016-05-13 Thread Warin
On 5/14/2016 11:30 AM, Simon Slater wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2016 07:11:39 PM Warin wrote: 2 things: First, I may have mussed up the threading here but the subject of Warin's last thread looked like "ᅵᅵᅵᅵ...". My e-mail client has been playing silly-buggers lately, so was this th

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2016-05-13 Thread Warin
On 5/13/2016 11:36 AM, Warin wrote: On 5/6/2016 9:51 AM, Simon Slater wrote: On Thu, 5 May 2016 10:10:35 AM Ian Sergeant wrote: 1. Any attempt to make something render on sparse parts of the map, is a rendering issue. Any renderer is free to pre-process the data based on a population

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2016-05-12 Thread Warin
On 5/6/2016 9:51 AM, Simon Slater wrote: On Thu, 5 May 2016 10:10:35 AM Ian Sergeant wrote: 1. Any attempt to make something render on sparse parts of the map, is a rendering issue. Any renderer is free to pre-process the data based on a population and remoteness algorithm if they wish. 2.

Re: [talk-au] place by remoteness

2016-05-04 Thread Warin
d_rural this seems to support and adjustment based on remoteness in the Australian context. Alex On 4 May 2016, at 8:11 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 4/05/2016 12:50 AM, Christopher Barham wrote: On 03 May 2016, at 14:22, Warin <6

Re: [talk-au] place= rendering

2016-05-04 Thread Warin
On 5/05/2016 9:50 AM, Timothy Ney wrote: Re: place=? An oldie but no past conclusion. My other concern is the rendering of urban centres at certain zoom extents. If for example, we demote all of the "towns" between Rockhampton and Mackay to Hamlets or Villages, we are going to have 300 km

Re: [talk-au] place=? An oldie but no past conclusion.

2016-05-03 Thread Warin
On 4/05/2016 12:50 AM, Christopher Barham wrote: On 03 May 2016, at 14:22, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Why judge on the population? Larger populations get more services - Police, Medical, Education ... they go hand in hand. Populations

[talk-au] place=? An oldie but no past conclusion.

2016-05-03 Thread Warin
Hi, I came across Quobba Station and Canarvon where Canarvon is a 'village' and Quobba Station is a 'town'. I know Canarvon is larger than Quobba Station! So I re-tagged Quobba Station as 'village'. But I wondered on it.. so looked up the OSMwiki .. not much help... the Australian tagging

Re: [talk-au] Routing instructions

2016-05-01 Thread Warin
On 1/05/2016 11:15 AM, Simon Slater wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:31:47 PM Simon Slater wrote: Sequentially tried all the routing engines in Marble and now all give the same error, even OSRM. The error even displays the html tags: "Drive null onto Murray Valley Highway, B400". This

Re: [OSM-talk] classification of airports/aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Warin
surfaces on runways, one of which was grass and has changed to paved in my term of mapping history, the 'taxiways' remain grass .. and unmapped. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016, 23:25 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 13/04/2016 5:47 AM, Michael Kug

Re: [OSM-talk] classification of airports/aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Warin
On 13/04/2016 5:47 AM, Michael Kugelmann wrote: Am 12.04.2016 um 11:40 schrieb Christoph Hormann: This is also a problem for map rendering - map styles use these features to place labels and icons but these features are generally too ill-defined and undifferentiated to do this properly. I agree

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction of some Afghanistan data

2016-03-31 Thread Warin
On 1/04/2016 9:42 AM, Paul Norman wrote: The Data Working Group recently had to perform a large redaction in Afghanistan of data from two mappers who had used Google. A redaction is where an object is removed from the current data and previous versions are hidden in the API. They are done to

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-22 Thread Warin
On 23/03/2016 2:47 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: On 2016-03-22 14:10, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: ># First goal: >First goal is quite simple. The idea is to work only on relations >which have a natural=water . Then, it will: >* Delete natural=water from all the ways if they are NOT closed or >

Re: [OSM-talk] Winter Road Closures

2016-02-24 Thread Warin
On 25/02/2016 4:01 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:21 AM, > wrote: In order to help avoid this situation with OSM, I tagged highway 82 across Independence Pass with "seasonal=yes". If anyone knows more

Re: [talk-au] LPI Base Map road names

2016-02-21 Thread Warin
On 21/02/2016 8:49 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: I’ve been adding some names from the LPI base map. I was wondering how ‘accurate’ the names are. Most of the time the names look OK but I’ve noticed a couple of issues. 1. Occasionally the name of the street is mis-spelt. Sometimes it is an obvious

Re: [talk-au] Attempt at mapping the NSW alpine area.

2016-02-16 Thread Warin
. On 17/02/2016 4:57 PM, cleary wrote: Warin This is the part of NSW with which I am least familiar but I can't work out what it is that is being mapped. I couldn't see any relation between Bing imagery and the tracings in your polygon. If it is actually the area above the tree-line, then I don't

[talk-au] Attempt at mapping the NSW alpine area.

2016-02-16 Thread Warin
Hi, I have made a first attempt at mapping the NSW alpine area. It comes from Bing imagery - probably snow cover. It is a bit course - so the resolution is not good. The question is; Is this good enough for use? As there is no information in OSM for it ... maybe it is better than nothing?

Re: [talk-au] Removing tags from way 169174227 "Blue Mountains National Park"

2016-01-27 Thread Warin
comprehensively. I see no reason at all to keep the redundant way. It's just messy. If people want to see the history, or get a copy of the way, then that's easy enough to do - even after it's deleted. Ian. On 27 January 2016 at 11:16, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, The way 169174227 is

Re: [talk-au] Disused Railway Stations

2016-01-26 Thread Warin
On 26/01/2016 1:38 PM, cleary wrote: While undertaking various edits, I have notice multiple railway stations with the words "Closed" or "Abandoned" or "Grain Only" as part of the names. I have changed some of these so that those words are removed from the names and have added other tags to

[talk-au] Removing tags from way 169174227 "Blue Mountains National Park"

2016-01-26 Thread Warin
Hi, The way 169174227 is tagged; name=Blue Mountains National Park boundary=national_park This covers a very large area ... that is; part of the Blue Mountains National Park (not the northern section) all of;Yerrandrie State Conservation Area Yerrandrie Regional Park Nattai State

[talk-au] Tagging for NSW "State Conservation Area"?

2016-01-25 Thread Warin
What are the preferred tags for these areas? In the past at least some of these were called "State Recreation Areas" and had recreation as their primary goal, with secondary goals of conservation. Now, quoting from

Re: [talk-au] JOSM Scanaerial plugin on NSW LPI layers

2016-01-24 Thread Warin
On 25/01/2016 3:44 PM, Warin wrote: Well I have roughly follow this procedure on; for my previously entered 'Putty State Forest' relation 5806844 and newly entered 'Wollemi National Park' relation 5901253 These are large! .. My past clickathon for the Putty state forest was some 800 nodes

Re: [talk-au] JOSM Scanaerial plugin on NSW LPI layers

2016-01-24 Thread Warin
On 25/01/2016 12:58 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: Hi, The road is a vector, representing the road. It does not represent the road centreline. It has properties, such as width and lanes, and sidewalks. If the boundary *is* the physical feature, then it is not corrupting the data by making it

Re: [talk-au] JOSM Scanaerial plugin on NSW LPI layers

2016-01-24 Thread Warin
Well I have roughly follow this procedure on; for my previously entered 'Putty State Forest' relation 5806844 and newly entered 'Wollemi National Park' relation 5901253 These are large! .. My past clickathon for the Putty state forest was some

Re: [talk-au] JOSM Scanaerial plugin on NSW LPI layers

2016-01-24 Thread Warin
On 23/01/2016 2:36 PM, Nev Wedding wrote: thanks it appears that the boundaries here sometimes follow a topo contour and that abuts the next defined boundary which seems reasonable. On 23 Jan 2016, at 1:22 PM, Ross > wrote: Looks good to me.

Re: [talk-au] Osmose in Australia

2016-01-16 Thread Warin
On 17/01/2016 10:57 AM, Ross wrote: Be interesting to see if it does. I think it's one of those that may need a human to check and say yes this is correct or not. Cheers Ross On 17/01/16 09:47, Sam Wilson wrote: Ah, yes! Good point, I'll fix that. :) But I think Osmose would still

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Background Layers

2016-01-16 Thread Warin
On 17/01/2016 3:41 AM, Steve Doerr wrote: On 08/01/2016 22:34, Simon Poole wrote: Am 08.01.2016 um 23:25 schrieb tony wroblewski: Silly question, why would you trace from Mapnik, since it's OSM anyway? I use it to check the OSM data relative to another image without down loading the data ...

Re: [talk-au] LPI Base Map - green areas ?

2016-01-16 Thread Warin
On 17/01/2016 1:12 PM, Nev Wedding wrote: On 17 Jan 2016, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 16/01/16 11:47, Nev Wedding wrote: Though I don’t know the area you refer to, I feel landuse=water_catchment is an excellent choice and is the correct tag for an area that

Re: [talk-au] LPI Base Map - green areas ?

2016-01-15 Thread Warin
.. so I'll go with that. No copyright on the pdf... :-) It does say access is restricted.. but not what the restrictions are. - For those also using the LPI base Map to plot State Forests ... be carefull. - Original Message - From: "W

Re: [talk-au] LPI Base Map - green areas ?

2016-01-15 Thread Warin
t 12:06 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 15/01/2016 2:19 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: Looking at the old Parish map it would appear that it used to be part of the State Forest until they built the Mangrove Creek Dam at which point it became reserved for water conservation purposes.

[talk-au] LPI Base Map - green areas ?

2016-01-14 Thread Warin
Hi, On the LPI base map green areas apear at first to be National Parks - a darker green area that is visible at all zooms. State Forests - lighter green, visible when zoomed in. I have mapped out the McPherson State Forest boundary using the LPI base map. Fine (apart from a typo in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Parking Lots

2016-01-11 Thread Warin
On 12/01/2016 11:22 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: I notice that some times just the part of a parking lot where cars may park is mapped [1]. In other cases the entire lot, including the lanes between rows of cars, has been mapped [2]. The wiki [3] doesn't specify which is preferred, but seems to

Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

2016-01-07 Thread Warin
On 8/01/2016 6:15 AM, Dave F. wrote: On 07/01/2016 14:51, Simon Poole wrote: In any case enough question marks to make a blanket "perfectly legitimately" a bit iffy. Interesting. So it's question marks & not Chinese whispers & scaremongering? I'd genuinely like to see where either Google or

Re: [talk-au] Residential/commercial property boundaries

2016-01-03 Thread Warin
On 3/01/2016 9:26 PM, Michael Gratton wrote: Yes, as I said landuse doesn't seem to be what I'm after here. What was the objection to fine grained land ownership in OSM? Seems like a particularly useful thing to have in. Is it just "imports suck"? //Mike A simple google search (OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] south Portugal and South Spain GPS

2016-01-01 Thread Warin
On 2/01/2016 7:06 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: Sounds like a fun trip. On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 9:59 AM, birdlady108 > wrote: My husband and I (Both older) want to buy a GPS so we don't get too lost when walking and driving on our trip

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to amalgamate two relations?

2016-01-01 Thread Warin
On 2/01/2016 5:56 AM, Dave F. wrote: Thanks to all who commented. In hindsight I probably wasn't worth doing, but I've learnt something new for the future (especially that it can be done in P2) Jo, I haven't tested it but does JOSM know it's meant to delete the latter relation? Does the

Re: [talk-au] National Park Boundaries from LPI NSW Admin Boundaries

2015-12-23 Thread Warin
I too have added some areas/boundaries... State Forests; Enfield Nowendoc Terrible Billy Doyles River Enfield Giro Brassey National Parks; Curracabundi Myall Lakes - modified boundary to match, and remover layer=-5. Bretti Mummel Gulf Woko Cottan Bimbang Nature Reserves; Black River Ngulin

Re: [talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

2015-12-21 Thread Warin
On 17/12/2015 10:26 AM, Andrew Davidson wrote: You're not likely to get much of a response from the editors you contacted. The Barrington Tops boundary was drawn in by a user that hasn't edited for 5 years. Well the initial addition did not have it as the Barrinton Tops NP. That was added

Re: [talk-au] Northern NSW again

2015-12-18 Thread Warin
On 19/12/2015 1:49 PM, Leon Kernan wrote: Pretty sure I read that section has just opened. They're probably someone from Skyscrapercity or Aussie-Highways google group who are on the ball. I admit I tend to leave proposed and construction ways unjoined, which is a trap if someone else just

Re: [talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

2015-12-16 Thread Warin
is it?) forestry. See the Forest page on the wiki, but landcover=trees seems incorrect. Why? I would take it that the area is covered in trees. What human purpose they are put to is not specified by the landcover tag. - Ben. On Dec 17, 2015 8:25 AM, "Warin" <61sundow

[talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

2015-12-16 Thread Warin
Hi ... I'm using LPI to tag National Park and State Forest boundaries and came across some large "Inappropriately tagged areas". Way 25968044tagged as Barrington Tops National Park, this area includes National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests. Way 232137774 tagged as Myall State

Re: [talk-au] (no subject)

2015-12-13 Thread Warin
I have left a comment on his last change set .. suggesting not to reduce detail. And that the new LPI information is good for park boundaries too. On 13/12/2015 8:23 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: Thanks for letting us know. I checked out one particular changeset, 35907472, looking at the geometry

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-13 Thread Warin
I have made a diary entry about using the LPI Base Map to add road names in Sydney using JOSM .. applies elsewhere too. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Warin61/diary/37528 The base map is also usefull for National Park boundaries ... some of these are rather 'confused'. It does not help

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