Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

>> I'll be curious to hear feedback from this, too. Thanks for your efforts, >> Lukas: I genuinely hope they help our map! > > I can see a use when you have three consecutive segments of a road, where the > first and the last are named (the same) and the middle is not. This might > indicate a

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

I am a bit unsure on how to proceed from here... Maybe let's start with some technical facts: > IMHO a highway=service, track etc typically do not have names. > Hopefully you account for that. > And i am not shure the assumption that other road classes > always have names holds up. In the curre

[OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

Hello fellow OSMers. As you are no doubt aware, OSM requires that data imports be listed on the OSM Wiki ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue ), including if the source is “ODbL OK status”. At the Nov. 2022 OSMF Board meeting (25 Nov), the Board voted that imports should, fr

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

> I can't really think what the Osmose people (in this example) could do to > make people > NOT blindly make changes in this way > Add ability to ban accounts from using Osmose? And use it to ban people misusing it? In theory there can be also some sort of fake elements clearly labelled as "ma

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 09:16:14PM +0100, Lukas Toggenburger via talk wrote: > Hi all > > As you might know, OSM data contains a lot of highway=* without > name=*. Check your region using the following query: > IMHO a highway=service, track etc typically do not have names. Hopefully you account

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

On Nov 28, 2022, at 5:57 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: > Your remark seems reasonable ;) Thanks, Maarten, I’m chuckling with mirthful laughter here. > Thing is: this is not meant as a bot, so the usual caveats apply. That IS an important consideration; thanks for highlighting that aspect. I didn’t kn

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

On 28/11/2022 13:57, Maarten Deen wrote: What the user wielding the QA tool does with that is his choice. Indeed, but as we've seen in lots of places users sometimes blindly follow "suggestions" without engaging their brains. As an example, Osmose contains very clear information that users s

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

Your remark seems reasonable ;) Thing is: this is not meant as a bot, so the usual caveats apply. It just serves as a highlight of "something might be wrong here", like so many QA tools do. What the user wielding the QA tool does with that is his choice. Does he automatically correct it? Wrong f

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

See, saying “seems reasonable” actually seems reasonable, until one realizes one doesn’t truly know. Ask yourself if others in OSM would agree if “seems reasonable” is good enough to meet OSM’s criteria for data entry: you’ll get mixed answers, though a sizable number will say “not really good

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

Le 28.11.22 à 00:43, Dave F via talk a écrit : a "high confidence" interpolation, from an armchair or anywhere, will lead to inaccurate data being added to the OSM database. if you have a road in 3 segments A B C and A+C have the ssame name, then not only does it seem reasonable to me to add th

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

Hi all Thank you for your feedback so far. > I can see a use when you have three consecutive segments > of a road, where the first and the last are named (the same) > and the middle is not. This might indicate an omission. This is what I do. See https://gitlab.com/ltog/ohni/-/blob/main/README.m

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

> Op 28-11-2022 05:18 CET schreef stevea : > I'll be curious to hear feedback from this, too. Thanks for your efforts, > Lukas: I genuinely hope they help our map! I can see a use when you have three consecutive segments of a road, where the first and the last are named (the same) and the m

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

I forget where but it has been said that it is legal and that is the reason JOSM is now available via the store. Cheerio John On Sun, Nov 27, 2022, 11:43 PM James, wrote: > IANAL but GPL v2 does allow to charge for distribution. Is it ethical, lol > no, would lawyers care? Probably not > > On S

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

IANAL but GPL v2 does allow to charge for distribution. Is it ethical, lol no, would lawyers care? Probably not On Sun, Nov 27, 2022, 11:30 PM stevea wrote: > Yes, thanks much, James! (For linking "Reporting Infringement to > Microsoft"). I do wonder if simply forking and charging money for ex

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

Yes, thanks much, James! (For linking "Reporting Infringement to Microsoft"). I do wonder if simply forking and charging money for existing open-source software is an egregious slap in the face to OSM (JOSM developers, especially), although I'm not an attorney. So, I'd urge our LWG / legal-be

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/infringement On Sun, Nov 27, 2022, 11:15 PM john whelan wrote: > You can only leave a review if you download the software. > > Both are JOSM, one is a fork which costs money which goes to the person > who created the fork the other is no

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

Without wishing to "diss" (disparage) Lukas's tool (I haven't evaluated it), I would also urge caution here, for exactly the reasons DaveF outlines. I'm also a partly-armchair mapper, but not (usually, if ever) using Python tools, rather knowing that my "armchair-ing" is going to be of high qua

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

You can only leave a review if you download the software. Both are JOSM, one is a fork which costs money which goes to the person who created the fork the other is normal JOSM which is free. Cheerio John On Sun, Nov 27, 2022, 11:01 PM stevea, wrote: > If choosing which version is "legitimate"

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/openstreet-map-editor/9MVMVXFPM5SV https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/josm/XPFCG1GV0WWGZX On Sun, Nov 27, 2022, 11:01 PM stevea wrote: > If choosing which version is "legitimate" (or preferred) is important, and > "leaving a review" is a (one) metho

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

If choosing which version is "legitimate" (or preferred) is important, and "leaving a review" is a (one) method for communicating that, I would underscore that if you do leave a review, make very clear how one differs from the other. On Nov 27, 2022, at 5:33 PM, john whelan wrote: > > Agreed b

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

Agreed but some do and currently both have one review each so it isn't that clear which is the official OpenStreetMap editor. Even a couple more reviews would help. Thanks Cheerio John On Sun, Nov 27, 2022, 20:27 James wrote: > not everyone runs winblows > > On Sun, Nov 27, 2022, 8:19 PM John

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

not everyone runs winblows On Sun, Nov 27, 2022, 8:19 PM John Whelan wrote: > On a windows machine do a search for Microsoft store. Then search for > JOSM. Download it then you can leave a review. The more reviews it has > the more it looks as if it is the legitimate version. > > The other ve

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

On a windows machine do a search for Microsoft store.  Then search for JOSM.  Download it then you can leave a review.  The more reviews it has the more it looks as if it is the legitimate version. The other version which is a fork of JOSM is called  OpenStreetMap editor and has a JOSM screen

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

Link(s)? On 30/10/2022 18:47, john whelan wrote: There are two versions of JOSM available on the Microsoft store.  One is a fork and costs money the other is the kosher version. It might be helpful if JOSM had a few reviews to make it stand out from the other version. Thanks John

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

Most roads don't have names. Any comparison has to be done against an authoritative database or on ground surveying, for the area in which you're searching. "where the name can be interpolated from neighbouring ways. This allows to detect and armchair-fix a (small) subset of these cases with

[OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

Hi all As you might know, OSM data contains a lot of highway=* without name=*. Check your region using the following query: https://overpass-turbo.eu/?Q=way%0A%20%20%5Bhighway%5D%5B!name%5D%0A%20%20(%7B%7Bbbox%7D%7D)%3B%0Aout%20body%3B%0A%3E%3B%0Aout%20skel%20qt%3B I wrote a Python tool (using

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #644 2022-11-15-2022-11-21

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 644, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16134 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to

Re: [OSM-talk] StateOTMap 2015 video is "private"

Vào lúc 08:18 2022-11-24, Andy Mabbett đã viết: I've just been told that the video of my 2015 SotM talk: https://2015.stateofthemap.us/wikidata-for-mappers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6pnDQcrtwQ will not play, being listed as "Private". Does anyone know why, and who can unlock it

[OSM-talk] StateOTMap 2015 video is "private"

I've just been told that the video of my 2015 SotM talk: https://2015.stateofthemap.us/wikidata-for-mappers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6pnDQcrtwQ will not play, being listed as "Private". Does anyone know why, and who can unlock it? Other talks, such as: https://www.youtube.co

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #643 2022-11-30-2022-11-14

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 643, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16121 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #642 2022-11-01-2022-11-07

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 642, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/16111/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log i

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

Nov 12, 2022, 11:18 by marc_m...@mailo.com: >> The reverting changeset >> > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/604295549 > highway=construction for a very damaged bridge is very strange, > it look like tagging for the render > I am also unsure, but unfamiliar with situation. Maybe  reconstruc

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

On 12/11/2022 13:51, Andy Mabbett wrote: I'm not in the least precious about how it is tagged, so long as the fact that a structure still bridges the river, but is impassable to pedestrians, is recorded. (and earlier) If I knew how to revert the edit I would do so; I do not. Can someone do t

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 at 10:18, Marc_marc wrote: > > > The reverting changeset > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/604295549 > highway=construction for a very damaged bridge is very strange, > it look like tagging for the render I'm not in the least precious about how it is tagged, so long as the

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

The reverting changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/604295549 highway=construction for a very damaged bridge is very strange, it look like tagging for the render ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/list

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

On 9/11/22 20:26, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 07:46, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. the bridge If I knew how to reve

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 07:46, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > > Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. > the bridge > >>> If I knew how to revert the edit I

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

On 8/11/22 23:53, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 08:18, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. the bridge If I knew how to rever

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 08:18, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > >>> Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. > >> the bridge > > If I knew how to revert the edit I would do

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 13:48, Marc_marc wrote: Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. the bridge [...] is currently deleted https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/604295549/history

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

And you can put a comment on the changeset that deleted it. -- Andrew From: Marc_marc Sent: 07 November 2022 13:48 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > Someone has deleted

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 13:48, Marc_marc wrote: > > Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > > Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. > the bridge [...] > is currently deleted https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/604295549/history Indeed; that was my point. If I

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. it's always a good idea to post an osm id or a geoloc :) the bridge started at https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5734380320 and is currently deleted https://www.openstreetmap.org/

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

That would be more fitting for OSM note ( see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes ) And definitely would benefit from link to - location in OSM - confirmation that it happened If you identified specific problem you can also simply edit this location Nov 6, 2022, 20:25 by a...@pigsonthewin

[OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. This seems to be in error, as - despite the recent tragic collapse - the superstructure is largely still in place, and still spans the river, according to press coverage The way had been marked as impassable. Can someone resto

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #641 2022-10-25-2022-10-31

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 641, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/16077/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log i

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Oct 26, 2022, 12:05 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 26 Oct 2022, at 11:45, Mateusz Konieczny via talk >> wrote: >> >> Note that when you found some gone railway >> mapped in OSM then it is useful >> >> - edit OSM object to note which traces are left if any >> (ideal

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of "Proprietary" imagery to edit OSM

Minh Nguyen writes: > For what it's worth, the argument about transparency would probably be > more effective if it were actually an upfront expectation that applies > to everyone. As it is, anyone could simply set source=survey or > local_knowledge on their changeset and call it a day. > > Unle

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of "Proprietary" imagery to edit OSM

On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 9:00 PM Minh Nguyen wrote: > Vào lúc 07:11 2022-10-30, Greg Troxel đã viết: > > But then the company doing the editing should document which company's > > imagery and which revision year they are using. Things should be as > > transparent as possible, and this doesn't fe

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of "Proprietary" imagery to edit OSM

Vào lúc 07:11 2022-10-30, Greg Troxel đã viết: But then the company doing the editing should document which company's imagery and which revision year they are using. Things should be as transparent as possible, and this doesn't feel that way. There was a recent subthread on this issue on the

[OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

There are two versions of JOSM available on the Microsoft store. One is a fork and costs money the other is the kosher version. It might be helpful if JOSM had a few reviews to make it stand out from the other version. Thanks John ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #640 2022-10-18-2022-10-24

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 640, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/16058/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log i

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of "Proprietary" imagery to edit OSM

Darafei Praliaskouski via talk writes: > This is okay. You still have the access to the reality to check if the edit > matches the reality. > > The core reason why companies can't share the imagery is that satellite > imagery providers often put a seat license on the imagery, with "publicly > av

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of "Proprietary" imagery to edit OSM

This is okay. You still have the access to the reality to check if the edit matches the reality. The core reason why companies can't share the imagery is that satellite imagery providers often put a seat license on the imagery, with "publicly available" costing ten times as much as "this specific

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of "Proprietary" imagery to edit OSM

Am 27.10.2022 um 06:17 schrieb Michael Collinson: and note that Bing imagery is provided to us on the same basis - for use in OSM but not otherwise. Mike Bing imagery is available for inspection to everybody, for use in OSM terms are relaxed that would otherwise prohibit tracing etc. Not

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Vào lúc 16:41 2022-10-26, Zeke Farwell đã viết: On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 1:11 PM Greg Troxel > wrote: I think people should keep in mind that a culture of deltionism is demoralizing to contributors and harms OSM more than a few  marginal items in the database.

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

sent from a phone > On 27 Oct 2022, at 01:44, Zeke Farwell wrote: > > I support mapping old rail beds as railway=razed where they are visible in > forests, fields, and other open land. These traces are often not visible to > those with an untrained eye and that's certainly an issue. Howeve

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of "Proprietary" imagery to edit OSM

and note that Bing imagery is provided to us on the same basis - for use in OSM but not otherwise. Mike On 2022-10-27 00:08, Clifford Snow wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:59 PM Mike Thompson wrote: Concerning this changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128035436 Ch

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 1:11 PM Greg Troxel wrote: > > I think people should keep in mind that a culture of deltionism is > demoralizing to contributors and harms OSM more than a few marginal > items in the database. > This is a fair point, but given how often this comes up, it doesn't seem lik

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of "Proprietary" imagery to edit OSM

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:59 PM Mike Thompson wrote: > Concerning this changeset: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128035436 > > Changeset comment: > > added missing roads according to proprietary aerial imagery > > Editing organization's follow on comment: > "Proprietary" for Lyft meani

[OSM-talk] Use of "Proprietary" imagery to edit OSM

Concerning this changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128035436 Changeset comment: added missing roads according to proprietary aerial imagery Editing organization's follow on comment: "Proprietary" for Lyft meaning "provided to us for use in OSM but not the general public" Is this

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Frederik Ramm writes: > you are correct in all aspects, however in the spirit of friendly > collaboration I would say that a limited amount of > stuff-that-should-not-be-in-OSM can be *tolerated*. If someone does a > lot of good work for OSM otherwise and would really like to record an > ancient

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Some historical perspective on a project like OSM, its growth, the social aspects of "what that means and does to tagging" over time might be helpful. The dates and numbers I'm about to offer as examples are wholly illustrative (and indicate not arithmetic, but geometric growth, a very powerful

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

sent from a phone > On 26 Oct 2022, at 11:45, Mateusz Konieczny via talk > wrote: > > Note that when you found some gone railway > mapped in OSM then it is useful > > - edit OSM object to note which traces are left if any > (ideally, it would be done by original mapper) > > - or delete none

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Which OSM Wiki pages you checked to find out reason for existence of things like demolished:building=yes? Recently demolished building may be visible on aerial images Using lifecycle prefixes it is possible to clearly mark that specific object must not be remapped without proper verification. O

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Le 25.10.22 à 19:45, Colin Smale a écrit : Are underground pipelines and electricity transmission cables just as controversial? They are covered over, built on, and completely unobservable from the surface in several European countries, the markers are visible from satellite imagery and by su

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Le 25.10.22 à 20:26, Minh Nguyen a écrit : If you have time to write up your experiences in OHM's central issue tracker [1], it could have a concrete impact on the project. https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/issues/issues/478 ___ talk mailing lis

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Hi, On 10/25/22 19:18, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: In my experience, it is more often the opposite situation that happens. A mapper, unaware of the lengthy debates on the topic of former railroads, is mapping her house and removes the bit of abandoned rail currently on the map in that spot, a

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Vào lúc 06:40 2022-10-25, Marc_marc đã viết: when to migrate the data to ohm, I am convinced. however, having tested it this month, it's horribly non-ergonomic and I don't believe for a moment that it's within the reach of an iD contributor nor of an average contributor with josm, unless a plugin

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 1:45 PM Colin Smale wrote: > Are underground pipelines and electricity transmission cables just as > controversial? They are covered over, built on, and completely unobservable > from the surface. They may also have been taken out of service many decades > ago. > In the U

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

> On 25/10/2022 19:18 CEST Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 4:37 AM Frederik Ramm mailto:frede...@remote.org> wrote: > > > in the spirit of friendly collaboration I would say that a limited amount of > > stuff-that-should-not-be-in-OSM can be *tolerated*. If s

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 7:46 AM Marc_marc wrote: > Hello, > > Le 25.10.22 à 09:42, Warin a écrit : > > why have the tags that mean there is nothing left of it? > > I'm using from time to time as a QA-tag to avoid that a mapper > add it back I do this as well. We have had some major wildfires ar

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 4:37 AM Frederik Ramm wrote: > in the spirit of friendly collaboration I would say that a limited amount > of > stuff-that-should-not-be-in-OSM can be *tolerated*. If someone does a > lot of good work for OSM otherwise and would really like to record an > ancient former ra

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 4:37 AM Frederik Ramm wrote: > If someone does a > lot of good work for OSM otherwise and would really like to record an > ancient former railroad that ran through where their house now sits - I > shrug and let them do it. Only if someone starts to make it their > mission

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

On 25/10/2022 08:42, Warin wrote: If OSM is about mapping what exists today .. why have the tags that mean there is nothing left of it? The main OSM website/database shouldn't. it is for *current* data. "OpenStreetMap is a place for mapping things that are both /real and current/" https:/

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Hello, Le 25.10.22 à 09:42, Warin a écrit : why have the tags that mean there is nothing left of it? I'm using from time to time as a QA-tag to avoid that a mapper add it back (and in fact, I don't care, for osm, if it's demolished, removed or destroyed, because if you weren't there the day i

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

As usual (nearly all of the time!), I appreciate and agree with your well-stated clarifications, Frederik! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Hi, you are correct in all aspects, however in the spirit of friendly collaboration I would say that a limited amount of stuff-that-should-not-be-in-OSM can be *tolerated*. If someone does a lot of good work for OSM otherwise and would really like to record an ancient former railroad that ran

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

On Oct 25, 2022, at 12:42 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: a > Question: about mapping of old railway infrastructure. Without "meaning to be mean," I say "oh, no, not again!" I say it like that because OSM has had this discussion many, many times. I'll be relatively brief here and have

[OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Hi, Question: If OSM is about mapping what exists today .. why have the tags that mean there is nothing left of it? demolished:*=*     Not existing anymore because of active removal  removed:*=*     Not existing anymore because of active removal (possible duplicate of demolished:*=*) razed

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #639 2022-10-11-2022-10-17

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 639, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/16041/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log i

[OSM-talk] Invite: United Nations and European Commission with OpenStreeMap - “Smart Cities” - Challenges – 1 to 31 October 2022

Dear members of the OSM community worldwide! We invite you to participate in our United Nations, European Commission and OpenStreetMap event called “Open Source Software 4 SDG - SDG11 “Smart Cities” from 3 to 31 October. We are posting 7 individual challenges that you can choose and develop/p

[OSM-talk] Invitation: Local Chapters and Communities Communities Congress, 12 November at 12:00 UTC

Dear everyone, We invite you to the *Local Chapters and Communities (LCC) Congress 2022 happening online on 12 Nov at 12:00 UTC !* Let’s get together and SHARE TOGETHER to support and grow our mapping communities! *More

[OSM-talk] State of the Map Announcement: Decision on international State of the Map 2023 and 2024 SotM Logo

Dear all, After carefully considering and reviewing the bids for SotM 2023, the State of the Map Working Group has decided not to organize an international State of the Map 2023. Instead, the WG will focus efforts on finding a perfect venue for 2024 in Africa – or if there is no possibility in A

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #638 2022-04-10-2022-10-10

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 638, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/16032/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log i

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC: Two new extensions for the wiki: Log in via openstreetmap.org and vote via a GUI

On 13.10.22 11:47 Martin Fischer wrote: I wrote two small MediaWiki extensions for wiki.openstreetmap.org: one to let you log in via your OSM account and one to provide an easy to use in-wiki GUI for proposal voting. Awesome work, I like both of these and hope they make it onto the OSM wiki!

[OSM-talk] RFC: Two new extensions for the wiki: Log in via openstreetmap.org and vote via a GUI

Hi everybody, I wrote two small MediaWiki extensions for wiki.openstreetmap.org: one to let you log in via your OSM account and one to provide an easy to use in-wiki GUI for proposal voting. I also set up a small demo wiki so that you all can try both extensions out: https://demo-wiki.push-f

Re: [OSM-talk] Vespucci - Proximity Alerts - Not working

an offline data source in such a scenario, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/193235 >> Simon >> >> PS: osm-talk is not a suitable forum for support questions. >> >Sorry, what do you recommend? Our github repo, or help.openstreetmap.org (and so

Re: [OSM-talk] Vespucci - Proximity Alerts - Not working

options enabled > for the mechanism to work (or you need to replace all the data). > Thanks. Unfortunately most of the time I will be surveying without a data connection, so this isn't going to work for me. > > Simon > > PS: osm-talk is not a suitable forum for support questions.

Re: [OSM-talk] Vespucci - Proximity Alerts - Not working

). Simon PS: osm-talk is not a suitable forum for support questions. Am 12. Oktober 2022 18:29:37 MESZ schrieb Mike Thompson : >I am trying to get Vespucci to give me an audible alert when I travel to >within a certain distance of a OSM map note, or a OSM object with a fixme >tag. I have

[OSM-talk] Vespucci - Proximity Alerts - Not working

I am trying to get Vespucci to give me an audible alert when I travel to within a certain distance of a OSM map note, or a OSM object with a fixme tag. I have not been able to get this feature to work, at least not in the manner that I would like it to work. It does alert when I initially downloa

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #637 2022-09-27-2022-10-03

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 637, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/16005/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log i

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #636 2022-09-20-2022-09-26

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 636, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/15990/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log i

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

Vào lúc 08:46 2022-09-30, Andrew Hain đã viết: The Wikidata links haven’t gone away; they’re in the OSM data items where they are easily machine readable and can be curated against accidental divergences between languages. The other description arguments could just as easily follow (there’s no

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit - remove image=https://westnordost.de/p/* tags (and similar)

Sep 30, 2022, 18:21 by marc_m...@mailo.com: > Le 27.09.22 à 21:48, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : > >> Sep 26, 2022, 13:49 by marc_m...@mailo.com: >> >> is it possible to have a list by country? i would be willing to go >> through a series of images and contact one or the other person c

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

Sep 30, 2022, 18:19 by marc_m...@mailo.com: > you're deleting a *data*, an info (the match between tag > and a wikidata item) on the wiki > Just to confirm: are you aware that https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dtree has matching data item https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

Date: Sep 30, 2022, 18:26 From: marc_m...@mailo.com To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ? > Hello, > > Le 30.09.22 à 13:36, Frederik Ramm a écrit : > >> "Make

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

Hello, Le 30.09.22 à 13:36, Frederik Ramm a écrit : "Make link far less prominent" is not the same as "delete link". Therefore the bot activity has, in my opinion, no community backing and needs to be stopped and reverted. Thanks for your opinion, I hope it will be a consensus Regards, Marc

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit - remove image=https://westnordost.de/p/* tags (and similar)

Le 27.09.22 à 21:48, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : Sep 26, 2022, 13:49 by marc_m...@mailo.com: is it possible to have a list by country? i would be willing to go through a series of images and contact one or the other person concerned Are you interested in specific area? Belgiu

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

Le 30.09.22 à 15:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : Sep 30, 2022, 14:55 by marc_m...@mailo.com: Le 30.09.22 à 14:42, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : Not entirely sure what should be done differently. if you want to vote on "hide", use an url and a title with *hide*,

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