On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 07:29:51PM +0100, David Earl wrote:
[snip much that I agree with]
OSM's instance of Mapnik might own not just the
tiles, but the page in which they are showcased as well. Likewise
Potlatch, likewise Osmarender, likewise namefinder gazetteer. But we
provide a starting
...and maybe a small crosshair just in the middle of the map-window to
indicate the exact lat/long... ;-)
For me: right click at a spot in the map should pop up some info about
that location (e.g. tags and values, lat/long, cafés nearby, copy
location as a GPS coord, copy it as a URL, you name
On 14 Oct 2008, at 20:42, Stefan Monnier wrote:
...and maybe a small crosshair just in the middle of the map-window
to
indicate the exact lat/long... ;-)
For me: right click at a spot in the map should pop up some info about
that location (e.g. tags and values, lat/long, cafés nearby, copy
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Jonathan Bennett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Got a printed UK Road Map? Open it to any page -- where are the coordinates?
Which is *extremely* annoying when you have a GPS and a printed UK
road map and are trying to find out where you are...
SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 10 Oct 2008, at 23:37, Matthias Julius wrote:
SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm all for lat/lng to be a user-enabled display option, but it's
delusional to think that most people on the planet care and I
personally want most people on the planet using
spaetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 08:51:37AM +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
OSM is about encouraging an ecosystem, not just cramming everything
onto openstreetmap.org.
Last time people wrote about the OSM homepage they complained
(including me) that the homepage was
Hi,
Of course, sitting up you own slippy map is easier than setting up
Windows, almost anybody can do that. But a bunch of people each
settign up their own map that implements the feature they care most
about is not a very user friendly solution, either.
This is something I constantly
Ian Dees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Maybe there should be a 'simple' and an 'advanced' map?
There is:
Simple: http://openstreetmap.org/
Advanced: http://informationfreeway.org/
Well, *I* know that, but which
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is something I constantly preach on talk-de: We aim to be the
geodatabase to end all geodatabases. Not the web mapping platform to end
all web mapping platforms.
Yes, I know you and others have pointed that out many times. And
others have noted
I agree with Matthias - if it was something to vote on I gave a (+)
- you don't need to see the damn paypal link on a besides inputbox for
searching
useless sidebar when being a user who uses osm every day...
And I would like to see lat/long too of course...
Additionally I'd like a small
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:29 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 13/10/2008 18:24, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
Of course, sitting up you own slippy map is easier than setting up
Windows, almost anybody can do that. But a bunch of people each
settign up their own map that implements the
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 07:24:01PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote:
This is something I constantly preach on talk-de: We aim to be the
geodatabase to end all geodatabases.
I’d much rather it be the geodatabase to encourage more (free)
geodatabases, but that could just be me.
Simon, not aiming to
SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm all for lat/lng to be a user-enabled display option, but it's
delusional to think that most people on the planet care and I
personally want most people on the planet using our maps.
And I don't think that most people on the planet mind a set of small
On 10 Oct 2008, at 23:37, Matthias Julius wrote:
SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm all for lat/lng to be a user-enabled display option, but it's
delusional to think that most people on the planet care and I
personally want most people on the planet using our maps.
And I don't think
Matthias Julius wrote:
I could imagine that a significant sub-set of users are interested in
this, especially of those users that care about OSM right now.
Why not do something different that OS, Google and Co.?
Absolutely - do something different. But make the most of the freedom
- do it
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 08:51:37AM +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
OSM is about encouraging an ecosystem, not just cramming everything
onto openstreetmap.org.
Last time people wrote about the OSM homepage they complained (including me)
that the homepage was too convoluted and side bars etc
elvin ibbotson wrote:
Steve,
It looks like fakeSteveC or someone is pretending to be you and posting
elitist, patronising, condescending rubbish in an apparent attempt to
make you look foolish. I look forward to it being demonstrated that
'most people don't know what coordinates are'.
On 10 Oct 2008, at 15:06, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
elvin ibbotson wrote:
Steve,
It looks like fakeSteveC or someone is pretending to be you and
posting
elitist, patronising, condescending rubbish in an apparent
attempt to
make you look foolish. I look forward to it being demonstrated
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Jonathan Bennett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
elvin ibbotson wrote:
Steve,
It looks like fakeSteveC or someone is pretending to be you and posting
elitist, patronising, condescending rubbish in an apparent attempt to
make you look foolish. I look forward
I think the fact that several people presented more or less fiddly ways
to obtain coordinates from the OSM map shows that there is at least some
need to have a coordinate display feature for www.openstreetmap.org. I
don't see that coordinates inserted below Permalink (as in Frederik's
example) or
In your letter dated Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:53:11 +0100 you wrote:
Philip Homburg wrote:
In your letter dated Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:18:16 +0100 you wrote:
You need to set the displayProjection parameter on the control to get
it to give you lat/lons.
eg: map.addControl(new
Hi,
Ulf Mehlig wrote:
Coordinate display could also be switched on/off
via the layers dialog -- people who are scared off by coordinates won't
open it, would they? Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio's suggestion to display
coordinates when the mouse pointer lingers for some seconds at the same
spot
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Since we have user management anyway, we could also just have a user
preference that says with or without coordinates. Anonymous surfers
would get the map without, logged-in members would see what they prefer.
I don't think requiring users to create a
Jonathan Bennett wrote:
elvin ibbotson wrote:
Steve,
It looks like fakeSteveC or someone is pretending to be you and posting
elitist, patronising, condescending rubbish in an apparent attempt to
make you look foolish. I look forward to it being demonstrated that
'most people don't know
On 10 Oct 2008, at 07:06, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
elvin ibbotson wrote:
Steve,
It looks like fakeSteveC or someone is pretending to be you and
posting
elitist, patronising, condescending rubbish in an apparent attempt to
I'll take elitism over populism or relativism. See:
Philip Homburg wrote:
In your letter dated Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:18:16 +0100 you wrote:
You need to set the displayProjection parameter on the control to get
it to give you lat/lons.
eg: map.addControl(new
OpenLayers.Control.MousePosition({displayProjection:
map.getProjectionObject()}));
2008/10/7 Philip Homburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I myself dont have a clear opinion on whether the coordinates should be
there or not. Perhaps an intermediate decision: the coordinates would
appear if the mouse keeps still for 2 seconds.
Interesting. It was trivial to get the coordiantes to display
Thomas Wood wrote:
The OSM homepage keeps up to date with OpenLayers, putting the coord
display will be fairly trivial. The most difficult part will probably
deciding where to put them so they don't annoy those who do not wish
to use them.
Adding them is trivial, but it hasn't been done
In your letter dated Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:29:14 +0100 you wrote:
The OSM homepage keeps up to date with OpenLayers, putting the coord
display will be fairly trivial. The most difficult part will probably
deciding where to put them so they don't annoy those who do not wish
to use them.
It didn't
80n wrote:
I knew about latitude and longitude about 25 years before hyperlinks
were even invented, let alone permalinks.
I didn't think you were *that* old...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_hypertext_technology
--
Jonathan (Jonobennett)
2008/10/8 Philip Homburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In your letter dated Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:29:14 +0100 you wrote:
The OSM homepage keeps up to date with OpenLayers, putting the coord
display will be fairly trivial. The most difficult part will probably
deciding where to put them so they don't annoy
map on OSM
and on Google Maps in the FOSS4G conference?
cheers
Lucas
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] en nombre de elvin ibbotson
Enviado el: mar 07/10/2008 9:28
Para: Steve Coast
CC: Talk Openstreetmap
Asunto: Re: [OSM-talk] map display www.openstreetmap.org
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I think the word 'usable' is being used in a strange way. When someone says
'adding the coordinates makes the map less usable' they mean 'Many people
don't know what that funny number means and when
Thanks, Frederik and Steve!
I see Steve's point; especially coordinates at map borders within the
browser window would most probably not enhance map display. However, a
nice coordinate display like Frederik's wouldn't hurt, would it ;-) Many
thanks for the java script example.
In respect to map
Ulf Mehlig ulf.mehlig at gmx.net writes:
Thanks, Frederik and Steve!
I see Steve's point; especially coordinates at map borders within the
browser window would most probably not enhance map display. However, a
nice coordinate display like Frederik's wouldn't hurt, would it Many
thanks
SteveC steve at asklater.com writes:
On 1 Oct 2008, at 11:01, Ulf Mehlig wrote:
Hello Frederik, thanks for your answer. The coordinate display at
www.informationfreeway.org is what I was looking for. Wouldn't it be
possible to integrate this function into the main OpenStreetMap
site?
On 3 Oct 2008, at 07:06, Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
SteveC steve at asklater.com writes:
On 1 Oct 2008, at 11:01, Ulf Mehlig wrote:
Hello Frederik, thanks for your answer. The coordinate display at
www.informationfreeway.org is what I was looking for. Wouldn't it be
possible to integrate this
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Shaun McDonald
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On 3 Oct 2008, at 07:06, Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
SteveC steve at asklater.com writes:
On 1 Oct 2008, at 11:01, Ulf Mehlig wrote:
Hello Frederik, thanks for your answer. The coordinate display at
On 1 Oct 2008, at 11:01, Ulf Mehlig wrote:
Hello Frederik, thanks for your answer. The coordinate display at
www.informationfreeway.org is what I was looking for. Wouldn't it be
possible to integrate this function into the main OpenStreetMap
site? I
think this would definitely improve the
Hi,
SteveC wrote:
Just demonstrably not true. Most people don't know what co-ordinates
are or care that they don't know. It would just clutter the map and
make us look less usable.
The good thing about OSM is that we don't have to go for one or the
other; we can have both.
Ulf, with
I miss two things when I visit the OpenStreetMap website map display:
* a possibility to determine the coordinates of the mouse pointer
(decimal or degree-min-sec or both) or a
get-coordinates-by-click facility
* map borders with coordinates
The map borders would be
You apparently can do the borders:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Browsing
---
The URL form shown above will produce a map centred on the specified
latitude and longitude. It is also possible to get a map that displays
everything within a given bounding box:
Hi,
* a possibility to determine the coordinates of the mouse pointer
(decimal or degree-min-sec or both) or a
What you can always do is go to the export tab and select the select a
different area... option, then draw a rectangle and read its extent
from the four text boxes
Frederik Ramm wrote:
You can also use www.informationfreeway.org which gives you the mouse
pointer lat/lon in the bottom right corner.
Or (magic keypress alert) you can click 'Edit' to open Potlatch, move
your pointer to the right place, and press L.
cheers
Richard
Thank you, Simon. I'm not sure whether we correctly understood each
other; I might have been too brief in my previous email. I am less
interested in somehow finding out about the coordinates limiting the
current section of the map I'm viewing but in having the coordinates
*displayed* on screen
* a possibility to determine the coordinates of the mouse pointer
(decimal or degree-min-sec or both) or a
get-coordinates-by-click facility
It appears that openlayers can do this too
http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/mouse-position.html
So it could be implemented
Hello Frederik, thanks for your answer. The coordinate display at
www.informationfreeway.org is what I was looking for. Wouldn't it be
possible to integrate this function into the main OpenStreetMap site? I
think this would definitely improve the attractiveness of the map
display (even more, if
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