Re: [Talk-it] percorsi che attraversano piazze

2019-03-15 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Presumo ci sia anche il problema del routing Il ven 15 mar 2019, 17:39 demon_box ha scritto: > in corrispondenza di piazze che vengono attraversate da percorsi di tipo > hiking piuttosto che ciclabili, trovo mappate all'uopo highway che in > realtà > non esistono, ma vi domando, se una delle

Re: [OSM-talk] Maproulette

2019-03-15 Thread Martijn van Exel
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: ... > I was rather interested in checking whatever there is any place in world with > more > mappers than task. > I created Maproulette task long time ago and noone was solving it, one of > reasons was > that it was in places flooded

Re: [Talk-it] R: R: Tag place

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Feb 2019, at 18:34, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > > > Barozzo da hamlet a neighbourhood > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5341787782 > > Alberto da hamlet a neighbourhood > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5669345431 > > Trabaldo da hamlet a neighbourhood >

Re: [Talk-it] Utente che ignora i suggerimenti

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Ciao Alexander, Am Do., 14. März 2019 um 16:11 Uhr schrieb Alexander Shilin < dmitri.alex.ji...@gmail.com>: > Ehi, ciao Martin > > si, è vero, il Centro storico dell'Aquila e pieno dei Palazzi storici - > dal medioevo e renascimento. Alcuni sono in uso del comune, altri no. Ma > tutti di valore

[Talk-it] percorsi che attraversano piazze

2019-03-15 Thread demon_box
in corrispondenza di piazze che vengono attraversate da percorsi di tipo hiking piuttosto che ciclabili, trovo mappate all'uopo highway che in realtà non esistono, ma vi domando, se una delle regole d'oro di OSM è proprio che noi mappiamo ciò che esiste come risolviamo questi casi? a me comunque

Re: [OSM-talk] Your thoughts on osm.org

2019-03-15 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, thanks for sharing. Some recurring / interesting topics I picked up: * More attention to community, local groups, mapping together, the ‘people’ aspect of OSM * Still have a map but smaller * More information directly on or accessible from main page, for example * How-to / learn

Re: [Talk-it] R: Tag place

2019-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/02/2019 12:11, Andy Townsend wrote: On 23/02/2019 22:39, mbranco2 wrote: A me basta la disponibilità di Fayor a rimuovere manualmente le sue modifiche, quindi dico di non fare il revert. OK - we'll wait a bit and give him time to do that. ("OK - aspettiamo un po 'e dargli il tempo di

[OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of osmarender:nameDirection - blatant tagging for the renderer

2019-03-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
osmarender:nameDirection=* is an old tag that is case of tagging for the renderer. Additionally, Osmarender is defunct anyway. I propose to purge this tag from database as useless, confusing and encouraging tagging for renderer. This edit would remove about 2000 osmarender:nameDirection=*

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of osmarender:nameDirection - blatant tagging for the renderer

2019-03-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Because it is especially broken and confusing - and promotes tagging for renderer. "not hurting anybody in any way" is quite strong claim that I think is false. It is not a big problem but every time someone encounters it for the first time either has one more thing on "confusing things about

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of osmarender:nameDirection - blatant tagging for the renderer

2019-03-15 Thread Simon Poole
Why would we want to create new versions of objects just to remove a tag that is not hurting anybody in any way? The correct way to handle this is to add the tag to the list of deprecated tags that should be automatically removed (essentially iD has a list and JOSM has one too), when and if the

[Talk-it] Un saluto a tutti.

2019-03-15 Thread Sergio Manzi
Ciao a tutti, questo sarà il mio ultimo post nella mailing list che ho deciso di lasciare, insieme alle altre. Non ho voglia di dilungarmi sui motivi. Dico solo che chi se ne rallegrerà potrà unirsi a Martin nei festeggiamenti. Buona vita a tutte le persone di buona volontà (/sono certo che

[OSM-talk] pic4review | Re: 140 000 shops of unspecified type

2019-03-15 Thread Rory McCann
On 15/03/2019 11:08, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: how to find it? JOSM validator since latest released version complains about shop=yes - just download data and run validator Osmose has support for displaying JOSM validator complaints http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/#item=9002=1%2C2%2C3==

[Talk-at] Vienna Geo Meetup

2019-03-15 Thread Stephan Bösch-Plepelits
Hi! Ich glaub es ging hier noch nicht über die Mailingliste: Am 20.3. ist wieder Vienna Geo Meetup: https://www.meetup.com/de-DE/ViennaGeo/events/259569831/ Ich werd was über Overpass API erzählen. Kommt zuhauf! gruesse, Stephan -- Seid unbequem, seid Sand, nicht Öl im Getriebe der

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of osmarender:nameDirection - blatant tagging for the renderer

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 21:27 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny < matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > Because it is especially broken and confusing - and promotes tagging for > renderer. > this is not a case of "tagging for the renderer" as it is usually referred to (using a tag differently from what it

[Talk-it] [talk-it]

2019-03-15 Thread Volker Schmidt
La domand più vecchia del mondo: com taggare un negozio che vende bici e motocicl? Ci ne devono essere migliaia in Italia. shop=bicycle;motorcyle ? Ne trovo solo una manciata in Taginfo. Allora non va bene. Ma che cosa metto? Due nodi sovrapposti con tutto identico, salvo shop= ? Volker

Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta consiglio, parere

2019-03-15 Thread Max1234Ita
liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu wrote > Intanto mettiamo il link alla zona: > > https://osm.org/go/xX8_6a4r-- Il mio cent alla condivisione delle informazioni :) : non molti -credo- sanno che usando JOSM è facilissimo ottenere il link ad un singolo oggetto. E' sufficiente: 1) Selezionare

[Talk-it] Indicazione copyright

2019-03-15 Thread Massimo Taronna
Ciao, ho realizzato una carta che verrà allegata ad una pubblicazione che in parte prende elementi della cartografia di Openstreetmap, della CTR 1:1000 della Regione Piemonte e della CTR 1:5000 della Regione Liguria. Pensavo di inserire la seguente dicitura, sia all'interno del libro che sulla

Re: [Talk-it] Indicazione copyright

2019-03-15 Thread Massimo Taronna
Abbiamo preso la base topografica. Per Piemonte e Liguria abbiamo usato i file raster, da Openstreetmap abbiamo preso le tracce dei sentieri e il pezzo di topografia relativo all'angolo di Francia interessato. Io ho cancellato dai raster i nomi con Photoshop

Re: [Talk-it] Indicazione copyright

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 10:06 Uhr schrieb Massimo Taronna < massimo.taro...@gmail.com>: > Abbiamo preso la base topografica. Per Piemonte e Liguria abbiamo usato i > file raster, da Openstreetmap abbiamo preso le tracce dei sentieri e il > pezzo di topografia relativo all'angolo di Francia

Re: [Talk-it] Indicazione copyright

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 09:52 Uhr schrieb Massimo Taronna < massimo.taro...@gmail.com>: > Ciao, > ho realizzato una carta che verrà allegata ad una pubblicazione che in > parte prende elementi della cartografia di Openstreetmap, della CTR 1:1000 > della Regione Piemonte e della CTR 1:5000 della

Re: [Talk-at] Vienna Geo Meetup

2019-03-15 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 15.03.19 13:29, Stephan Bösch-Plepelits wrote: Ich glaub es ging hier noch nicht über die Mailingliste: Am 20.3. ist wieder Vienna Geo Meetup: https://www.meetup.com/de-DE/ViennaGeo/events/259569831/ Kannst du erklären, was und für wen das ist, bzw. was der Unterschied ist zum Wiener

Re: [Talk-it] name, operator e official_name

2019-03-15 Thread Federico Cortese
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 2:44 PM demon_box wrote: > > name="Officina Meccanica Fratelli Ronchini" > operator="Officina Meccanica Fratelli Ronchini Sergio, Roberto e Ezio > S.n.c." Secondo me va bene così. > name="Gelateria Pinguino" > operator="Rossi Mario S.r.l." oppure anche in questo caso >

Re: [Talk-at] Vienna Geo Meetup

2019-03-15 Thread Manuela Schmidt
Hallo Friedrich, die Meetups sind Treffen mit 2-3 Vorträgen und der Möglichkeit zum gegenseitigen Austausch. Hinter dem GeoMeetup stehen 4 Leute (inkl. mir) mit unterschiedlichem Geo-Background, die Spaß daran haben, die Wiener Geo-Community zusammenzubringen und einen Rahmen zu schaffen,

[Talk-it] name, operator e official_name

2019-03-15 Thread demon_box
ciao, scusate la ridondanza del mio quesito ma vado ancora in crisi (anche) su questo punto: ho il nome di di una ditta: Officina Meccanica Fratelli Ronchini Sergio, Roberto e Ezio S.n.c. come me la gioco tra name, operator ed eventualmente official_name? ipotesi1 name="Officina Meccanica

[OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

2019-03-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
About 4% of all tagged shops have shop=yes as its primary tag what is not properly providing information about shop type. It would nice to reduce it a bit (at least stop growing share of shop=* tags). how to find it? JOSM validator since latest released version complains about shop=yes -

Re: [OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

2019-03-15 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-03-15 11:08, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: About 4% of all tagged shops have shop=yes as its primary tag what is not properly providing information about shop type. It would nice to reduce it a bit (at least stop growing share of shop=* tags). how to find it? JOSM validator since

Re: [OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 11:13 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny < matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > About 4% of all tagged shops have shop=yes as its primary tag what is > not properly providing information about shop type. > > It would nice to reduce it a bit (at least stop growing share of shop=* >

Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta consiglio, parere

2019-03-15 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
> Ad esempio,per la way di cui sopra: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/662691921/history/#map=16/44.5840/10.5473 > < https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/662691921/history/#map=16/44.5840/10.5473> > => punta alla cronologia, mentre Ho trovato molto utile anche il tool per la "deep history":

Re: [OSM-talk] Maproulette

2019-03-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 15, 2019, 11:31 AM by md...@xs4all.nl: > On 2019-03-15 11:08, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> About 4% of all tagged shops have shop=yes as its primary tag what is >> >> not properly providing information about shop type. >> >> It would nice to reduce it a bit (at least stop growing share of

Re: [OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 11:35 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen : > This would be a perfect job to make a Maproulette task for. yes, as the original mapper who knew the shop could not find an appropriate tag to describe it we let it do a remote mapper in a gamified context and with no clue about the

Re: [OSM-talk] 140 000 shops of unspecified type

2019-03-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 15, 2019, 11:31 AM by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 11:13 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny <> > matkoni...@tutanota.com > >: > >> About 4% of all tagged shops have shop=yes as its primary tag what is >> not properly providing

Re: [Talk-it] name, operator e official_name

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 15. Mar 2019, at 14:50, Federico Cortese wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 2:44 PM demon_box wrote: >> >> name="Officina Meccanica Fratelli Ronchini" >> operator="Officina Meccanica Fratelli Ronchini Sergio, Roberto e Ezio >> S.n.c." > Secondo me va bene così. > >>

Re: [Talk-it] [talk-it]

2019-03-15 Thread liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
Il 15/03/19 09:13, Volker Schmidt ha scritto: > La domand più vecchia del mondo: > > com taggare un negozio che vende bici e motocicl? > Ci ne devono essere migliaia in Italia. > shop=bicycle;motorcyle ? > Ne trovo solo una manciata in Taginfo. > Allora non va bene. > Ma che cosa metto? Due nodi

Re: [OSM-talk] Maproulette

2019-03-15 Thread Martijn van Exel
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:39 AM, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: ... > > Are you aware about any location across the world that suffers from > lack of tasks in Maproulette for mappers? > > I would create something there (though not for shop=yes, it often requires > survey). You can create a global

Re: [OSM-talk] Maproulette

2019-03-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 15, 2019, 3:25 PM by m...@rtijn.org: > > >> On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:39 AM, Mateusz Konieczny <>> matkoni...@tutanota.com >> >> > wrote: >> > ... > >> >> Are you aware about any location across the world that suffers from >> lack of tasks in Maproulette for

Re: [Talk-it] [talk-it]

2019-03-15 Thread Volker Schmidt
Non è la soluzione. In Italia, e probabilmente in tanti altri paesi, c'è una diffusa e vecchia tradizione che lo stesso negozio vende bicicli motorizzati e non-motorizzati. A me interessa che lo stesso negozio sia riconosciuto a pieno diritto da data consumers come shop=motorcycle *e*

Re: [Talk-it] [talk-it]

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 15:39 Uhr schrieb Volker Schmidt : > O detto in altre parole: > se convertissi tutti i negozi in Italia che vendono bicicli di entrambi > tipi a questo tagging doppio, forse sarebbe un metodo per forzare i > renderer di prenderne atto? > se lo facessi al livello

Re: [OSM-talk] pic4review | Re: 140 000 shops of unspecified type

2019-03-15 Thread PanierAvide
Hello, Great to see Pic4Review being used :-) Note that missions can be configured with ready-to-use answers, mission creator set the possible answers (one per shop=* value, picture/symbol can be associated) so that contributors don't need to write shop value themselves when reviewing. This

[Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Danny McDonald
As previously noted, I will continue importing, unless I hear a specific valid concern. I will wait a week before re-starting, to allow time for concerns to be raised. To address some existing concerns: - Making buildings orthogonal isn't an improvement, it is degrading correct footprints for no

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Nate Wessel
Seriously Danny? Pierre was the first to suggest the DWG after you replied to him that wouldn't engage in further discussion. You only joined this conversation after I reported you. There is a massive difference between making edits without review and importing millions of buildings without

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [vélo] Introduction d'un tag complexe pour décrire les DSC sur bande dans le wiki

2019-03-15 Thread Phyks
Salut, > En tant que structuraliste opposite_* est intolérable. Il y a un certain nombre de cas comme ça d'ailleurs sur les attributs vélos. J'ai en tête par exemple aussi le `bicycle_parking` dont la variante `motorcycle_parking` n'existe pas. On se retrouve donc avec des

[OSM-talk-fr] améliorer les panneaux entrée et sortie de ville

2019-03-15 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret
Salut, J'aimerai améliorer les affichage pour les panneaux d'entrée et sortie de ville. voici un cas sur le même panneaux direction=310 highway=traffic_sign name:2=Jouy-en-Josas (sortie) name=Les Loges-en-Josas (entrée) traffic_sign=city_limit merci Jérôme

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hi Jarek, I agree that of the sign has a short form for saint then it should be that way on the map too, as the sign text comes from the official records of street names. I think St. Is better with a period as it makes it less ambiguous to it being an abbreviation and it may help screen readers

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Kevin Farrugia
No, I'm referring to the official records of street names held by municipalities. In many cases, at least in newer developments, they seem to be abbreviated. If it's officially short form then it would be incorrect to say it's Saint. --- Kevin Farrugia On Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:08 PM Martin

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2019 16:58, Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca wrote: The word is definitely Saint. St is a contraction and neither proper English or French. I can't comment about Canadian English, but "St" in a placename in British English is perfectly OK - St Albans is correct; "Saint Albans" is not.

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca
I certainly agree with that statement ! Importing should be much more rigorous and careful, as mistakes or poor execution is costly. > On Mar 15, 2019, at 11:29, Nate Wessel wrote: > > There is a massive difference between making edits without review and > importing millions of buildings

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Danny McDonald
OK, so this discussion has gone a bit off the rails. In terms of the DWG, this has all happened so fast - the referral to the DWG was less than 2 hours after the initial message, and was not in response to any actual edits I made after receiving Pierre's stop message. I suggest that we all stop

[OSM-talk-fr] Création de communes nouvelles

2019-03-15 Thread Donat ROBAUX
Bonjour, Un arrêté du 8 mars 2019 porte création de 20 communes nouvelles au 1er janvier 2019. https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A13282 Je crois qu'on aura pas fait pire dans le WTF administratif. Les arrêtés préfectoraux ont bien été pris en 2018 pour un démarrage au 1er

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Quartiers à Paris

2019-03-15 Thread marc marc
De: "althio" > si quelqu'un veut supprimer le quartier administratif c'est une caricature surement volontaire pour provoquer les partisans de l'inverse mais cela n'a aucun sens. on supprime toutes les addr des villes oü tu ne vas pas ? elle sont dispo en opendata après tout. c'est déjà parfois

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] adressage dans les zones sans nom de voie - exemple un aérodrome

2019-03-15 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret
Marc, J'ai standardisé tous les nom de résidence ainsi. J'ai pas de consenssus à ce niveau et c'est aussi le même problème pour les ZI, ZA, ZAC ... place=neighbourhood est trop aléatoire en niveau. Je l'ai utilisé et j'en reviens. Problème de définition entre quartier et info en grande ville ou

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tuiles cadatsre sans réponse sur JOSM

2019-03-15 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret
tu es sous quoi? windows linux mac? Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 15:20, Jozeph via Talk-fr a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Oui je rencontre ce problème depuis hier avec le message : > > "Erreur lors du chargement des tuiles : > javax.net.ssl.SSLProtocolException handshake alert: unrecognized_name" > > Je

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca
I think the osm database should use proper words. Abbreviating is a rendering issue and many rendering engines can do that. Space constraints on signage dictate the use of abbreviations for those. > On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:50, Kevin Farrugia wrote: > > Hi Jarek, > > I agree that of the

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 13:02, Nate Wessel wrote: > Don't forget about the various alternative naming tags like alt_name=*, > short_name=*, loc_name=*, and also name:etymology=* to make things absolutely > clear. > > Having either spelling in one of these alternatives as appropriate would >

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread Nate Wessel
I just reported this to the data working group, in case you haven't already. Hopefully they will step in! Cheers, Nate Wessel Jack of all trades, Master of Geography, PhD candidate in Urban Planning NateWessel.com On 3/15/19 10:30 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: Réponse

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread Yaro Shkvorets
As an experienced local Ontario and Quebec mapper I don't see any major problems with Stats Can building quality. It's detailed and recent, it's the best dataset we could ever possibly get and it's far superior to Microsoft quality. Having many buildings with "almost square angles" in this dataset

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Andrew Lester
I disagree. Silence won't solve anything. I'm speaking here as a local BC mapper, and I strongly disagree with these recent imports. I thought we had a general consensus that we'd discuss this as a community and figure things out before restarting the import, but it seems that some mappers

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] adressage dans les zones sans nom de voie - exemple un aérodrome

2019-03-15 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret
ok c'est fait Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 14:16, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit : > > > De: "Jérôme Seigneuret" > > > > PS hors optique Lieudit tu as le même problème sur les gros complexes > > résidentielle avec numéro voir numéro + Lettre, Numéro plus nom de > > batiment et sans pour autant

[Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
Hi all, A couple of months back we established a consensus [1] that "St." in Canadian English city names should not be expanded. I have been thinking of having the same for street names, and would like to ask people's opinions. My main motivation is St. Clair Avenue in Toronto. Every city

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Nate Wessel
Don't forget about the various alternative naming tags like alt_name=* , short_name=* , loc_name=*, and also name:etymology=* to make

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread john whelan
I'm of the opinion that what the city says goes. We used that in Ottawa with things such as rue Slater rather than Rue Slater which I understand is more normal in Quebec. Cheerio John On Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:19 PM Jarek Piórkowski, wrote: > On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 13:02, Nate Wessel wrote: >

[Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Danny McDonald
By the way, I strongly object to the way Nate immediately went to the DWG, instead of attempting to engage in discussion. I think many people on this list fundamentally misunderstand the way OSM operates. Most OSM contributions are made by individuals who see a gap/mistake in the data and fix

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Quartiers à Paris

2019-03-15 Thread Léo El Amri via Talk-fr
On 15/03/2019 15:46, Vincent de Château-Thierry wrote: > En élargissant, je pense que tous les découpages ont leur place dans OSM : > administratifs, religieux, militaires, académiques et j'en passe, dès lors > qu'on dispose d'une source précise et compatible pour leur délimitation. Ils > sont

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread John Whelan
At the end of the day one would hope we are a community.  We are a large group with divergent opinions and to be honest there is a great deal of interest in non-mappers in this sort of data. For example building data is being used in Tanzania to work out the optimal areas for group solar

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Places PMR ?

2019-03-15 Thread Vincent Bergeot
Bonjour, bon du coup je boucle et je ne sais pas trop comment déboucler :) Je parle ici seulement du tag amenity=parking_space pour 1 seule place de parking réservée pour des personnes à mobilité réduite (titulaire d'un macaron) Plusieurs schémas (je mets de coté wheelchair qui va qualifier

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Kevin Farrugia
However, the street name is legally "St." in almost all cases, so saint is wrong. --- Kevin Farrugia On Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:00 PM Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca < talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > The word is definitely Saint. St is a contraction and neither proper > English or French. It

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Places PMR ?

2019-03-15 Thread PanierAvide
Bonjour, Pour info : 3. amenity=parking_space + disabled=* -> 524 4. amenity=parking_space + access:disabled=*  -> 1627 Donc effectivement les méthodes 1. ou 2. sont majoritaires, le 1 étant raccord avec la logique des amenity=parking, et le 2 avec la logique sémantique. Et d'accord pour que

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] adressage dans les zones sans nom de voie - exemple un aérodrome

2019-03-15 Thread marc marc
de l'exemple de ton ticket, par ex https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6332817525 je pense qu'il est + correcte de changer addr:street="Résidence l'Orée de Marly" en addr:place et mettre un place=neighbourhood name=Résidence l'Orée de Marly. Dans certains autres cas place=city_block peux être +

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 15.03.19 16:23, Danny McDonald wrote: > I think many people on this list fundamentally misunderstand the way OSM > operates.  Most OSM contributions are made by individuals who see a > gap/mistake in the data and fix it. True! > It is not a "community process" > where contributions are

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Quartiers à Paris

2019-03-15 Thread Léo El Amri via Talk-fr
On 15/03/2019 16:59, marc marc wrote: > Le 15.03.19 à 16:29, Léo El Amri via Talk-fr a écrit : >> catégoriser les découpages > > je pense que la majorité existent déjà. > > Par exemple pour le quartier de Paris, > le populaire (celui avec un place=*) ayant une limite > que personne ne semble

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca
The word is definitely Saint. St is a contraction and neither proper English or French. It has the same Latin roots as sanctification and similar words. Similarly Av is a contraction for Avenue and not a word. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbreviation > On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:42, Jarek

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Danny McDonald
I agree with Jarek, St. should generally not be expanded for English Canadian street names. The proper spelling is St. (or St) even if the pronunciation is Saint. name:pronunciation ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name:pronunciation) is a tag that can capture the pronunciation, if

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] schéma pour renseigner les découpages [était : Quartiers à Paris]

2019-03-15 Thread marc marc
Le 15.03.19 à 17:34, Léo El Amri via Talk-fr a écrit : > Les aires sont définies <...> avec area=yes. pas nécessairement. De nombreux objet définissent automatiquement une aire implicitement natural=wood landuse=* place=* building=* les relations polygone, etc Pas besoin par exemple de mettre

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread John Whelan
Which I think comes back to defining the local mappers. There has been discussion on Montreal as well and not all Ontario thinks the same way.  Ottawa local mappers for example have different opinions to Pierre and Nate on what is acceptable and I'm under the impression that not everyone in

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Quartiers à Paris

2019-03-15 Thread althio
marc marc : De: "althio" > si quelqu'un veut supprimer le quartier administratif c'est une caricature surement volontaire pour provoquer les partisans de l'inverse mais cela n'a aucun sens. […] c'est déjà parfois difficile de se comprendre sans 2ieme ou 3ieme degré, alors évitons les :)

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Wynne
Are there any data users who use 'highway=footway;foot=yes' to distinguish from other footways? I also find much of the wiki unclear. To my mind: highway=footway means a narrow smooth physical object capable of being walked along in safety. If you can't do that, it is not a footway. So for

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Nate Wessel
Interesting! I didn't mean to imply that etymology should be decisive, but that linking the name to the history of some beatified person would help explain the origin of the 'St'... In this case, seemingly supporting the abbreviation, but also referencing an actual 'saint' or two at the same

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] schéma pour renseigner les découpages [était : Quartiers à Paris]

2019-03-15 Thread Léo El Amri via Talk-fr
On 15/03/2019 18:21, marc marc wrote: > Le 15.03.19 à 17:34, Léo El Amri via Talk-fr a écrit : >> Les aires sont définies <...> avec area=yes. > > pas nécessairement. > De nombreux objet définissent automatiquement une aire implicitement > natural=wood landuse=* place=* building=* les relations

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] GogoCarto

2019-03-15 Thread Cédric Frayssinet
Le 15/03/2019 à 09:03, allegre.guilla...@free.fr a écrit : > Le 14/03/2019 21:28, Cédric Frayssinet a écrit : >> Bonsoir à tous, >> >> Le projet ne semble pas être passé par cette liste. Voici GogoCarto, >> un chouette projet, très joli, un peu à la uMap, qui permet de faire >> de jolies cartes :

Re: [talk-cz] Relace s jedním členem

2019-03-15 Thread Milan Cerny
Vím, že to dělá problémy programům s lokálním renderováním map Mapforge (Locus, Cruiser...) , kde se uzavřené linie obsahující tag plochy i linie zobrazují chybně nebo vůbec. Nejčastěji je to vidět u fotovoltaických elektráren. __ >

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Tim Elrick
I think, Montreal's OSMappers would appreciate to discuss the import of the buildings there first on the local list. By the way, John, I have never said I would be taking the lead for the entirety of Québec (at least, at the moment). However, I feel that the import should be discussed on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2019 19:21, Martin Wynne wrote: To my mind: highway=footway means a narrow smooth physical object capable of being walked along in safety. It's entirely reasonable to think "to my mind X means ..." but when tagging thing in OSM it makes sense to try and match the approach of

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
From the footnote of that table: "The United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines state that highway=path, when used it the UK, implies "a generic narrow path that is used in conjunction with access tags". This makes the default

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2019 18:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Are there any data users who use 'highway=footway;foot=yes' to distinguish from other footways? Sort-of - depending on other tags https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html can display things differently based on that, but it'd be a

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Wynne
It's entirely reasonable to think "to my mind X means ..." but when tagging thing in OSM it makes sense to try and match the approach of more people - in OSM, the usage of highway=footway is much wider than your definition. Thanks Andy. But you also wrote recently: > just pick whatever

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tuiles cadatsre sans réponse sur JOSM

2019-03-15 Thread osm . sanspourriel
Tu le lances comment ? Si c'est via le .jnlp, tu peux ajouter le paramètre dedans. Si c'est via le jar, tu ajoutes l'argument indiqué en lançant la commande (typiquement dans un .bat sur PC, dans un .sh sur Linux). Si c'est par un exécutable, tu te ramènes au cas précédent ;-). Il y a

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-ca
On 2019-03-15 9:07 a.m., Andrew Lester wrote: I disagree. Silence won't solve anything. I'm speaking here as a local BC mapper, and I strongly disagree with these recent imports. I'm also a BC mapper, and have only seen the consultation happen over Ontario, not BC.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Quartiers à Paris

2019-03-15 Thread osm . sanspourriel
Souvent dans ce cas on peut utiliser un landuse=residential et le nommer. Le 15/03/2019 à 17:34, Léo El Amri via Talk-fr - talk-fr@openstreetmap.org a écrit : On 15/03/2019 16:59, marc marc wrote: Le 15.03.19 à 16:29, Léo El Amri via Talk-fr a écrit : catégoriser les découpages je pense que

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Pierre Béland via Talk-ca
John, les contributeurs de Ottawa, vous semblez en général d'accord pour poursuivre les imports et avez la capacité technique de faire des imports rapides, ce que vous avez démontré.  Il ne manque qu'un petit pas à franchir et discuter de la qualité des données et accepter de tenir compte des

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Calcul d'itinéraire avec OSRM - questionnement calcul

2019-03-15 Thread Violaine_Do
Merci pour les retours! J'ai fais un test sur un itinéraire plutôt rectiligne c'est pour ça que je comprends pas le calcul. Après je comprends les différences entre usage et limites max.. @Rodrigo, super intéressant et inspirant ton article! Bonne soirée On 15/03/2019 04:10, Rpnpif wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread John Whelan
I think there are two issues here the first is I accept having a large number of anything by one mapper has the potential for a systematic error. If the import is verified by a second mapper independently I assume this would be acceptable? The second is more to do with discussion within the

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I would urge the use of 'foot=yes' or 'foot=permissive' for paths which are _not_ rights of way but _do_ have public access (implicitly or explicitly) rather than simply 'highway=footway' or 'highway=path'. There needs to be a way to distinguish between non-rights-of-way which definitely have

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] adressage dans les zones sans nom de voie - exemple un aérodrome

2019-03-15 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret
OK, Bon dans tous les cas c'est fait pour les adresses de l'aérodrome il me manque en effet l'ajout du fantoir car c'est aussi connu sous le nom d'aéroport ( les panneaux affiche ça...) Dans tous les cas Merci PS hors optique Lieudit tu as le même problème sur les gros complexes résidentielle

Re: [Talk-ca] Building import in BC and Quebec

2019-03-15 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
IMO the huron/hamptonavemapper import is quite clearly in active disagreement with the import suspension - while I could believe that one user could overlook clicking on the wiki link in their changeset messages just once and seeing the bold "on hold", setting up a brand new similarly named

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Rob Nickerson
Martin wrote: >But presumably the designers of OSM intended only one of these meanings >for the highway tag. But I still don't know whether it is physical >appearance or legal status. The wiki seems to be mixed up on this. For >example: > > Hi Martin, I really think you are over-thinking it.

[OSM-ja] 初の関西3/30開催Mapillary Meetup Nara

2019-03-15 Thread ikiya
ikiyaです。 OpenStreetMapのマッピングツールとして注目を集めるMapillary のユーザー交流会が3月30日(土)奈良女子大で開催されます。 Mapillary Meetup初の関西開催となります。講演や事例発表、技術発表、クイズ、パネルデスカッションなどが予定されています。 ◆開催日:2019年 3月30日(土)10時開会 ◆会場: 奈良女子大学ラウンジ (地図)https://osm.org/go/7QGTObJfB?m= ◆主催/共催: ・奈良女子大学文学部人文社会学科地域環境学コース ・Mapillary Contributors in Japan

Re: [OSM-ja] 平泉でMapllary

2019-03-15 Thread Tomomichi Hayakawa
Tomです。 13日に中尊寺に行ってきました。 第二弾、今から行って、マピラリってきます。 今日は、毛越寺あたりかな。 シータってるオッサン見たら、声かけてね。 2019年3月12日(火) 16:34 Tomomichi Hayakawa : > > Tomです。皆さんこんにちは。 > > 季節も良くなってきましたし、 > 今週末から来週末にかけて時間が取れそうなので、 > 平泉にMapillaryしに行こうかと思います。 > > 一緒に行けそうな人がいましたら、声かけていただけると嬉しいです。 > とりあえず今週末を予定していますが、天気次第で変更もあります。 > >

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread john whelan
I think at this point in time we need to try to get some sort of agreement on how to proceed. My first thought would be to ban the youngsters so anyone under 65 shouldn't be involved. That way it would slow the process down unfortunately it isn't really practical. I think we need time to digest

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Wynne
or record its actual usage? Yes, in as much as "record its actual usage" is essentially the same as "describe its usage". Hi Andy, I was meaning "describe its physical appearance". For example, for: http://85a.uk/track_query_960x648.jpg I could tag it as: highway=track (physical

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] GogoCarto

2019-03-15 Thread allegre . guillaume
Le 14/03/2019 21:28, Cédric Frayssinet a écrit : Bonsoir à tous, Le projet ne semble pas être passé par cette liste. Voici GogoCarto, un chouette projet, très joli, un peu à la uMap, qui permet de faire de jolies cartes : https://gogocarto.fr/projects Pour les gens qui connaissent déjà uMap,

Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

2019-03-15 Thread Warin
I wish you and us all good luck with that waver endeavour. On 15/03/19 15:55, Runarsson, Sigurjon wrote: It is great to have joined the au list! Warin is correct in that CC by 4.0 licence does not allow data to be added to OSM but as for our team we are going to be pushing for waver on

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