Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

The concept of expressway is not as well known as a freeway. Many people, especially in places like NYC, might consider expressways and freeways to be interchangeable terms. Heck, even in Tulsa, you have the Broken Arrow Expressway, and the Sand Springs Expressway, which, despite being called

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

Simon, thanks for the constructive criticism, as it allows improvements rather than aggravation. I propose that "rejections" are saved as a new tag, for example "_autoreject". In a way, this is very similar to the "nobot" proposal - users reject a specific bot by hand. _autoreject will store a

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Evin Fairchild wrote: > Another thing worth adding is that if we do decide to tag two-lane roads > as trunk, you will still be able to tell the undivided two-lane roads apart > from the divided four-lane roads, even at zoom 5. I'm sure many

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Bradley White wrote: > > Message: 4 > > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:24:20 -0500 > > From: Paul Johnson > > To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list > > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Trunk > > Message-ID: >

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

Another thing worth adding is that if we do decide to tag two-lane roads as trunk, you will still be able to tell the undivided two-lane roads apart from the divided four-lane roads, even at zoom 5. I'm sure many of you have noticed if you've looked at Canada at zoom 5, you can see that some of

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

>Can you explain what your goal/desire is for these non-divided highways >to be labeled trunk? Is it about a small-scale render showing them, >when if they are primary, Alaska looks empty when it shouldn't? Some >sense of hierarchical views of road networks? Something else? @Bradley - I didn't

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

> Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:24:20 -0500 > From: Paul Johnson > To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Trunk > Message-ID: >

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Evin Fairchild wrote: > > Soon after I first joined OSM, NE2 changed a US highway near me from > primary to trunk which another user quickly reverted, but I actually agreed > with the change to trunk. The road I'm referring to, BTW, is US 2 in

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Friday 13 October 2017, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > > I remain unconvinced that importing or not importing has had any > > significant impact on whether people improve the map manually. > > > There are a number of

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

On Oct 13, 2017 7:11 PM, "Bradley White" wrote: Lots of words ahead, you have been warned... I disagree with trying to use the "highway=" tag to describe what "kind" of road a given way is in the US, except for freeways. The "highway" key is for importance, or, how

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Bradley White wrote: > > This situation is NOT the case for the majority of the US, and trying > to use this definition is what has been leading to unresolved > confusion about the purpose of the trunk tag. MUTCD gives a definition > of

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

Lots of words ahead, you have been warned... I disagree with trying to use the "highway=" tag to describe what "kind" of road a given way is in the US, except for freeways. The "highway" key is for importance, or, how prominently a road should show on the map. We have other tags to describe

[talk-ph] Mapping with friends is more fun with awesome PH-izzas!

The local OSM advocates in the Philippines is keen in finding ways to engage, and expand the community of OpenStreetMap contributors in the country. As you may7 know, many mapa-thons and hacking events are fueled by passion, and pizza. You can help drive the passion, and we canl take care of the

Re: [Talk-us] Davis Senior High School, California

On 12/10/2017 18:45, David Kewley wrote: I've just now sent an email through the school's portal to Mr. Birdsall, asking whether he can help. I live in California, and have met folks from Davis, but don't have enough of a personal connection to go a more direct route. David Thanks for

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:59:11 -0600 > From: Martijn van Exel > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Trunk > > Hi all, > > I haven't abandoned this thread or thinking about it. It has just taken me > a while to read through all the diary comments + what is being said in this > thread. I

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > Agreed mostly. But I don't see primary/secondary as having anything to > do with physical; we more or less defined that as US vs state long ago. If you read the description on the Wiki, we defined no such thing, we merely

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I don't really have a stake in the outcome of this discussion but wish to > again point out that Alaska is a state where "trunk" has been used to > designate highways that are ordinarily classified as primary but

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I don't think "important connecting role in the long distance road > > network" should have anything to do with it. A regular US highway

Re: [Talk-us] Tracking Redaction Review

I’ve completed adding Tiger 2017 names to the roads in Arizona. And I’ve updated your spreadsheet to reflect the completion. That was a much bigger job than I wanted to do but I just couldn’t stand seeing all those roads named “chdr_USA_AZ_name_fixup_required”. I’ve probably made a few

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

>I don't think "important connecting role in the long distance road >network" should have anything to do with it. A regular US highway that >is not divided, grade-separated, mostly limited access is still a key >interconnecting road, and it's squarely "primary". Most of US 20 is >like this, as

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > I don't think "important connecting role in the long distance road > network" should have anything to do with it. A regular US highway that > is not divided, grade-separated, mostly limited access is still a key >

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] New OSM Quick-Fix service

Way to go! This looks like just the kind of productivity tool OSM is crying out for. Great idea, Yuri. Steve From: Yuri Astrakhan [mailto:yuriastrak...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 October 2017 22:25 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools ; OpenStreetMap

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

Martijn van Exel writes: > In the mean time, I decided to test some of the ideas posted here on a real > case: The part of Michigan SR 10 northwest of the I-696 interchange: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/252973#map=13/42.5132/-83.3168 > > Since 1) this road does not

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

My major issue with this: you don't actually "confirm" that something is a good edit or not. You only have the choice of making an edit or leaving it to others to do. This is substantially different to maproulette, osmose, keepright and so on. This makes the whole thing entirely equivalent to a

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

Yuri, On 13.10.2017 23:25, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > I would like to introduce a new quick-fix editing service.  It allows > users to generate a list of editing suggestions using a query, review > each suggestion one by one, and click "Save" on each change if they > think it's a good edit. I am

[OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

I would like to introduce a new quick-fix editing service. It allows users to generate a list of editing suggestions using a query, review each suggestion one by one, and click "Save" on each change if they think it's a good edit. For example, RU community wants to convert amenity=sanatorium

Re: [Talk-in] old_name tag for merged Associate State Banks

Revert the name changesets and start again? The new changes should then place the original name into old_name and introduce the new name. On 13-Oct-17 11:08 PM, Srihari Thalla wrote: Chetan, Is there any possibility to update them via script? I am not sure if Overpass API can download

Re: [Talk-GB] Barriers and PRoWs

I thank Roland so much for taking the time to read my message and provide examples; I am indebted to him. Might I request just one enhancement: could the barrier locations be shown on the ways to which they relate in the case of > 1. to identify PRoWs having stiles? I fully accept I did not

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > There are a number of possible measures that could be considered for > improving old NHD imports: > > * removal of unnecessary tags to reduce the baggage mappers would have > to deal with when working on the data. > *

[OSM-talk-fr] Fonds et Fondations en France

Bonjour, Le Centre Français des Fonds et Fondations (CFF) a organisé les 14/15 septembre derniers un voyage d'études en Rhône-Alpes, différentes rencontres étaient organisées avec des acteurs locaux des données numériques, de l'OpenData, des

Re: [Talk-it] Alta Via dei Parchi (e percorsi a tappe con sovrarelazione in generale)

Personalmente non sono una grande fan delle superroute percio' tendo ad evitarle ogni volta che posso. Nel caso dell'AVP sicuramente devi fare le singole tappe come lwn e poi se le vuoi raggruppare fai una superroute come rwn. Ti suggerirei per dare il massimo dell'infomazione di usare ref=AVP21 +

Re: [Talk-it] ASSEGNAZIONE NOMI SENTIERI e RELAZIONI

2017-10-12 17:32 GMT+02:00 matteocalosi : > Magari arbitrari è il termine sbagliato, mi riferivo semplicemente > all'assegnazione in massa (catasto sentieri?) della formula partenza-arrivo > come nome relazione. Che magari se si decide che un sentiero DEVE avere un > nome

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

On 10/13/17 1:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > I haven't abandoned this thread or thinking about it. It has just > taken me a while to read through all the diary comments + what is > being said in this thread. I intend to follow up with another diary > post where I try to collect this

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

Hi all, I haven't abandoned this thread or thinking about it. It has just taken me a while to read through all the diary comments + what is being said in this thread. I intend to follow up with another diary post where I try to collect this smart crowd's thoughts and suggestions, but it will

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi Frederik The Overpass query shows me this morning that with your last redaction the names are back for the 620 highways. Thanks   Pierre Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017 13:08:42 HAE, Pierre Béland a écrit : Re-visiting this changeset I see that of the 620 ways

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

On Friday 13 October 2017, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > I remain unconvinced that importing or not importing has had any > significant impact on whether people improve the map manually. In case of NHD imports in the US there are certainly significant parts of the country where no NHD data has been

[OSM-talk-be] Réunion OSM à Arlon - OSM Meeting in Arlon - 24 October 2017 at 19.30

To the OSM Mappers of the Luxembourg province and around, We shall meet on Tuesday 24 October 2017 at 19.30 in Arlon. Already 4 subscribed! WiFi available. Meeting at the taverne Les Arcades, place Léopold 5. -- Salut à tous les cartographes OSM de la province de Luxembourg et alentour, Mardi

Re: [Talk-it] Alta Via dei Parchi (e percorsi a tappe con sovrarelazione in generale)

Il 13/10/2017 17:30, matteocalosi ha scritto: Ciao, starei accarezzando l'idea di mettermi ad aggiungere l'Alta Via dei Parchi come route hiking visto che mi sembra sorprendemente assente al momento. Però c'è una situazione preesistente in cui: - La variante mtb è completamente presente come

Re: [Talk-it-lazio] Incontri / was ...

Ciao, Le volte che ci siamo incontrati abbiamo fatto un giro e mappato, Un altra volta invece ci siamo visti in un posto, Io personalmente preferirei rivederci e mappare in giro. Avevamo iniziato con i murales e nel mentre mappato altri punti di Interesse che mancavano su open street map. Tu che

[Talk-it] Alta Via dei Parchi (e percorsi a tappe con sovrarelazione in generale)

Ciao, starei accarezzando l'idea di mettermi ad aggiungere l'Alta Via dei Parchi come route hiking visto che mi sembra sorprendemente assente al momento. Però c'è una situazione preesistente in cui: - La variante mtb è completamente presente come route, con le singole tappe relazioni distinte

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I only posted that on the talk list and not here, so for those on > talk-us who don't read talk and who are familiar with the "imports are > always bad for the community" discussion, you might want to have a look > at a

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

I live in the west coast of the US where manually surveying waterways is not only difficult, but almost impossible. I can't quantify how much as been cleaned up, but I do know of efforts to fix problems. For example, most of the waterways in the Olympic Peninsula were reversed. That's been fix. (I

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:53 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > I think this is probably a good example for imports discouraging manual > mapping. If this data was not there mappers would probably meanwhile > have added at least the larger rivers but with the dense network of NHD >

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

Hi, On 10/13/17 15:52, Kevin Kenny wrote: > (I ignore the arguments that > are based solely on contentions that "imports are always bad for the > community," or else I'd never import anything.) I only posted that on the talk list and not here, so for those on talk-us who don't read talk and who

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

On 10/13/2017 02:06 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, there's a LOT of NHD:* (and nhd:*) tags on OSM objects, see https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=NHD%3A - 1.9 million NHD:FCode, but also 188k "NHD:Permanent_" (note the underscore), 10k "NHD:WBAreaComI", or 1.5m "NHD:Resolution" just

Re: [Talk-us] Texas - redacted roads.

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Kerry Irons wrote: > Yes, but what about when there are two different names on street signs > depending on where you are on the street? It clearly is a mistake on the > part of the sign department, but in this case it probably means you

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

On Friday 13 October 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > I haven't researched who added them and when, but they would > certainly not clear the quality standards we have for imports today. > Most of this information can be properly modelled in usual OSM tags, > and where it cannot, it probably

Re: [Talk-GB] Oxford Railway Station

More correct than it was. I'm sure someone local will improve it ere long. On 13 Oct 2017 12:46, "Dave F" wrote: > Hi > > Is there anybody familiar with Oxford Railway Station who could give it a > check? A user has made some amendments that don't appear correct.

Re: [Talk-in] old_name tag for merged Associate State Banks

Chetan, Is there any possibility to update them via script? I am not sure if Overpass API can download based on changes in changesets. If not, manually going through the spreadsheet would be the obvious choice. It would be better to write a script to query the histories of Bank amenity objects

Re: [Talk-us] Texas - redacted roads.

Yes, but what about when there are two different names on street signs depending on where you are on the street? It clearly is a mistake on the part of the sign department, but in this case it probably means you have to go with the "un- authoritative" data from the local jurisdiction no matter

[Talk-GB] Oxford Railway Station

Hi Is there anybody familiar with Oxford Railway Station who could give it a check? A user has made some amendments that don't appear correct. It's a few years since I've been & I'm aware there was some redevelopment in the area so feel ill-equipped to decide what's correct. Items I've

[OSM-talk-be] mapping ALPR cameras (in Ghent)

Hi all, I was triggered by a tweet from a journalist (https://twitter.com/bertstaes/status/918017848844476416) to start mapping ALPR cameras in Ghent that control access to the "car free area". Could you have a look at one example I tried to work out? All advice is welcome.

Re: [Talk-in] old_name tag for merged Associate State Banks

Srihari, makes sense. I wonder how to get back deleted old names and add it in old_name tag in one go like you added? On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Srihari Thalla wrote: > Hi, > > Back in May 2017, we have updated the name tags of merged Associate State > Banks

[Talk-us] Tracking Redaction Review

I setup a sheet to try to consolidate information about what has been looked at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MbF4BptFvkY_Cp0zh1OKBxt_E9tdXklxRDfMW0baBvU/edit?usp=sharing Open to anyway so just fill in a state once it is reviewed. I went through the earlier thread and added anything

Re: [Talk-cz] Školení Alpina

Rád bych pomohl, ale jako obvykle se mi tam nacpala nějaká svatba, takže holt ani jedno. Někdo nahoře nechce abych se kamarádil s českými mapery :P V. -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Marián Kyral Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic Datum: 13.

Re: [Talk-cz] Školení Alpina

-- Původní e-mail -- Od: Miroslav Suchy Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic Datum: 13. 10. 2017 13:11:11 Předmět: [Talk-cz] Školení Alpina "Ahoj, 4.11. budu dělat školení o OpenStreetMap pro průvodce Alpiny v Brně. Bude to celý den.

[Talk-cz] Školení Alpina

Ahoj, 4.11. budu dělat školení o OpenStreetMap pro průvodce Alpiny v Brně. Bude to celý den. Zatím nemám vůbec tušení kolik tam bude lidí. Ale pokud by mi s tím někdo chtěl pomoci, tak neodmítnu. Akorát je problém, že to konfliktí se sobotním programem OpenAltu. :( Což je zároveň důvod, proč mě

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

Sometimes I think it might have been better if OSM had never imported Tiger data. It is simply pitiful, almost worse than nothing, in many areas of Alaska. Same with the coastlines and NHD water bodies. I know they represent a first approximation and without any coastlines we couldn't have a map,

[Talk-in] old_name tag for merged Associate State Banks

Hi, Back in May 2017, we have updated the name tags of merged Associate State Banks from their old names (State Bank of xxx) to the new name, "State Bank of India". We have identified and tracked the entries in a spreadsheet [1]. I have updated many entries. However, I forgot to add the old_name

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

Hi, * Frederik Ramm [171013 08:06]: >there's a LOT of NHD:* (and nhd:*) tags on OSM objects, see > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=NHD%3A > - 1.9 million NHD:FCode, but also 188k "NHD:Permanent_" (note the > underscore), 10k "NHD:WBAreaComI", or 1.5m

Re: [Talk-us] Texas - redacted roads.

On 2017.10.13. 05:06, Nick Hocking wrote: > AAAH - all my questions are answered. > > The City of Austin's use of google base map has "fooled" me into > thinking that the map data was theirs rather than googles. If I click on > the "blue line" then I see the actual City of Austin data and indeed

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semanarioOSM Nº 377 2017-10-03-2017-10-09

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[Talk-ca] weeklyOSM #377 2017-10-03-2017-10-09

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[OSM-talk-ie] weeklyOSM #377 2017-10-03-2017-10-09

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 377, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/9535/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #377 2017-10-03-2017-10-09

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 377, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/9535/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

[Talk-in] weeklyOSM #377 2017-10-03-2017-10-09

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[Talk-us] weeklyOSM #377 2017-10-03-2017-10-09

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[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #377 2017-10-03-2017-10-09

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[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #377 2017-10-03-2017-10-09

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[Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

Hi, there's a LOT of NHD:* (and nhd:*) tags on OSM objects, see https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=NHD%3A - 1.9 million NHD:FCode, but also 188k "NHD:Permanent_" (note the underscore), 10k "NHD:WBAreaComI", or 1.5m "NHD:Resolution" just to grab a few. I haven't researched who added